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Esiel
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.02.24 02:03:00 -
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Each Race usues a destinct patern when naming thier ships Gallente = Classic ancient culture (Roman, Greek, Eastern) Caldari = mostly birds (real and mythological) with a spattering of other animals thrown in. Amarr = religious terms Minmatar = most spread of the groups using several different catagories û including severe weather system names, carnivorous animals and Norse mythology
In this thread I am attempting to decern how each of these names falls into these catagories and what they could be symbolizing. û this has little to do with the game background and history and is more to do with curiousity about the naming of the ships we fly
I did as much searching as I could and came up with a list of what I think most of the names are about. I would love for people to see if they find anything wrong or off. (espcially entries that have question marks by them)
(in full disclosure I used ideas provided by these sites as well as a lot from wikapedia and other web definition tools) http://users.utu.fi/sipesa/eve/index.php?a=topic&threadID=542274 http://www.gothicmeadows.com.au/zombie/blog/2005_05_01_omberzombie_archive.html
Off with your head |
Esiel
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.02.24 02:09:00 -
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Gallente battlecruisers brutix û Latin From "brutus" Dull, stupid, slow myrmidon û Greek mythological nation of soldiers (Achilles)
battleships dominix û Latin Derived from dominus, meaning lord hyperion û Greek Titan, father of Eos among others megathron û Greek Simply, Large Throne.
cruisers celestis û Greek meaning heavenly exequror û Latin From "exequor" To follow to the end, or the grave thorax û Latin Breastplate vexor û Latin From "vexo" To annoy, harrass
destroyers catalyst û English A substance used to speed up a reaction. Derived from Greek but English in invention.
frigates atron û possibly from patron û latin to protect? imicus û Latin Foe, enemy, opponent. Incursus û Latin Speed, Surprise, Violence of action maulus û Latin Attack, Assault navitas û Latin Energy tristan û Celtic One of the knights of the round table in Arthurian legend who married Iseult.
industrial ships iteron û Latin From "itero" To repeat
rookie ships . velator û Latin from one who stands vigil?
assault ships enyo - Greek goddess of war and waster of cities ishkur - Sumerian storm-god
command ships astarte û Greek goddess of fertility, sexuality and war eos û Greek Titanic goddess of the dawn
covert ops helios û Greek Incarnation of the sun nemesis û Greek spirit of divine retribution
electronic attack ships keres û Greek female death-spirits
heavy assault ships deimos û Greek Incarnation of dread ishtar û Bablyonian goddess of fertility, sexual love, and war
interceptors ares û Greek God of War taranis û Celtic god of thunder
interdictors eris û Greek God of Strife
logistics oneiros û Greek Incarnation of Dreams
marauders kronos û Greek Titan of harvest
black ops sin û Greek meaning to miss the mark?
recon ships arazu - Babylonian god of completed construction lachesis û Greek mythology, one of the three fates
transport ships occator û Latin From "occato", harrowing. Viator û Latin Traveller
carriers nyx û Greek Incarnation of Night thanatos û Greek Incarnation of death
dreadnoughts moros û Greek Incarnation of fated doom
freighters obelisk û Greek meaning needle (usually refers to is a tall, narrow, four-sided, tapering monument which ends in a pyramidal top.
jump freighter anshar û Akkadian mythology "sky pivot" or "sky axle", a sky god
titans erebus û Greek Incarnation of shadow/darkness
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Esiel
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.02.24 02:23:00 -
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Caldari battlecruisers drake û another name for dragon ferox û Latin meaning ôsavage way of lifeö often used in describing cruel animals?
battleships raven û common name given to the largest species Corvus or crows rokh û giant bird considered large enough to carry away an elephant scorpion û member of the Arachnida family having 8 legs is distinguished by a large poisonous stinger on tail
cruisers blackbird û a small black bird found in Europe, thou there is a north American bird commonly known as a red winged blackbird as well caracal û also called Persian Lynx or African Lynx a small cat with large tuffed ears moa û extinct flightless birds native to new zealand osprey û also known as seahawk, fish hawk or fish eagle, a fish eating bird of prey
destroyers cormorant - medium-to-large coastal seabirds
frigates bantam û a small or miniaturized domestic fowl (chicken) condor û type of vulture that is the largest living bird of flight alive today griffin û mythical creature with the body of a lion and head and wings of an eagle heron û wadding bird sometimes called egrets or bitterns kestrel û a very small member of the falcon family merlin û the smallest of the European falcon family
industrial ships badger û a burrowing animal that has been know to fight off much larger animals
rookie ships ibis û stork like wading bird, worshiped in ancient Egypt
assault ships harpy û mythical creature half woman half bird, very irritating hawk û general name given for birds of prey
command ships nighthawk û medium-sized nocturnal birds with long wings and short legs vulture û large birds that eat carcasses of dead animals
covert ops buzzard û another name given to vultures manticore û mythical animal with the body of a red lion and a human head
electronic attack ships . kitsune û Japanese word fox (often a mythical creature)
heavy assault ships Cerberus û Greek mythical three headed dog guarding the underworld Eagle û large bird of prey
interceptors crow û common name given to the bird species Corvus raptor û means bird of prey (includes falcons, eagles, vulturesà)
interdictors flycatcher û family of small passerine birds
logistics basilisk û mythical huge multi-limbed lizard or giant snake that can petrify with a glance
black ops widow û Arachnida or spider know to kills its mate. Identified by a red hour glass shape on underside of body
marauders golem û Jewish mythological creature made entirely of inanimate material
recon ships falcon û Mid sized bird of prey rook û another name given to the bird species Corvus (crow)
transport ships bustard û large ground dwelling birds (does fly) crane û long-legged and long-necked bird
carriers chimera û animal that comes from multiple genetically distinct cells (2 fertilized eggs in the womb combine. Yes this happens). Mythologically was a three headed creature with a lion front a goat in the middle and a snake head as its tail wyvern û mythical large lizard with wings. Often considered an undersized dragon
dreadnoughts phoenix û mythical bird of fire who upon death will be reborn out of its ashes
freighters charon û Greek, was the creature who ferried people across the river Styx. Was seen as a cranky, skinny old man or as a winged demon wielding a double hammer
jump freighters rhea û Greek Titan considered ôthe mother of godsö
titans Leviathan û Hebrew myth of a large sea monster or creature, often now just means something that is very large.
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Esiel
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.02.24 02:30:00 -
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Amarr battlecruisers harbinger û a sign of things to come prophecy û religious text about the future
battleships abaddon û place of destruction, the realm of the dead, or "Angel of the Abyss" apocalypse û the end, often referred to as the end of the earth Armageddon û biblical final battle
cruisers arbitrator û person that is sent to end a dispute augoror ??? maller ??? omen û something that portends, usually doom or bad things
destroyers coercer û someone that forces a person to act or think a certain way by means of torture, pressure or threats
frigates crucifier û someone that crucifies or puts someone on a cross executioner û person whoÆs job was to kill those condemned to death inquisitor û a questioner who is often vigorous and harsh punisher û someone who inflicts punishment for wrong doings tormentor û someone or thing that causes torment or mental anguish
industrial bestower û person who makes a gift of property sigil û symbol created for a specific magical or religious purpose
rookie ships impairor û something that is used to make something worse, often used in describing travel
assault ships retribution û to give or receive justice or punishment, commonly in the hearafter vengeance û punishment inflicted in retaliation for an injury or offense
command ships absolution û pronouncement of God's forgiveness of sins damnation û punishment by God to be sent to hell
covert ops anathema û banished, exiled, excommunicated or denounced, sometimes accursed purifier û something that removes the undesirable things from an area
electronic attack ships . sentinel û a guard or watchman
heavy assault ships sacrilege û Desecration, profanation, misuse, or theft of something sacred zealot û one who is zealous on behalf of God, often discribed as without reason
interceptors crusader û Christian warriors from Europe that went to conquer the Holy land, or someone who in on a religious quest malediction û the calling down of a curse
interdictors heretic - Someone who disobeys or speaks against fundamental tenets of a religion
logistics guardian û someone or something that watches over and protects something.
black ops redeamer û a person who bought back something of great worth
maurader paladin û A champion knight
recon ships curse û hex or an evil spell, also known as foul language pilgrim û a traveler: going to a religious place or for a religious purpose.
transport ships impel û urge or force (a person) to an action prorator û someone who Divide or assess proportionately?
carriers aeon û often spelt eon meaning ôageö, ôforeverö or ôfor eternityö archon û Greek word that means "ruler" (in fantasy often are angelic in nature)
dreadnoughts revelation û an uncovering or disclosure via communication from the divine
freighters providence û GodÆs goodness and benevolent care of all people
jump freighters ark û a vessel used to carry something (religiously it carried the 10 commandments)
titans Avatar û the descent or presence of a deity in corporeal form
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Maj Woodcock
Minmatar United Space Aillance USA
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Posted - 2008.02.24 02:34:00 -
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got to print this for referance later. thanks
PROMISES MADE > PROMISES KEPT SO SAY WE ALL
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Tirrion Drax
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Posted - 2008.02.24 02:37:00 -
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Cool,thanks for the info.
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Esiel
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.02.24 02:38:00 -
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Minmatar battlecruisers cyclone û a huricane originating in the Indian ocean hurricane û cone-shaped tropical storm in the Americans
battleships maelstrom û A giant whirlpool tempest û storm: a violent commotion or disturbance typhoon û A hurricane that forms in the western Pacific ocean
cruisers bellicose û having or showing a ready disposition to fight rupture û state of being torn or burst open scythe û a curved, sharp blade at the end of a long handle stabber û someone who stabs another
destroyers thrasher û a farm machine for separating seeds or grain from the husks and straw or someone who beats mercilessly
frigates breacher û someone that causes an opening or rupture burst û force out or release suddenly and often violently probe û to explore to seek out answers rifter û something that causes a fissure or *****?? Slasher û something that slashes or cuts, often given to movies that involve a lot of people being cut up. Vigil û to watch, a purposeful surveillance to guard or observe
industrial ships hoarder û something that gathers or collects things and keeps them from others mammoth û gigantic or exceedingly large or extensive as to suggest a giant. Also an extinct hairy elephant wreathe û to twist and intertwine into a circular shape or wreath??
rookie ships reaper û person who cuts grass or stalk plants commonly with a scythe also another name given to the personification of death
assault ships jaguar û a large spotted cat found in South America wolf û a large wild canine, considered where all dogs originally descended from
command ships claymore û Large two-handed swords from Scotland sleipnir û Odin's magical eight-legged steed, and the greatest of all horses
covert ops cheetah û long-legged spotted cat of Africa, fastest land animal in the world hound û any of several breeds of dog used for hunting
electronic attack ships . hyena û wild dog found in Africa, often competes with Lions for food
heavy assault ships muninn û a raven of memory which sat on Odin's shoulder vagabond û rootless or wandering aimlessly without ties to a place or community
interceptors claw û sharp curved appendage found on the toes of many animals stiletto û a small dagger with a tapered blade
interdictors sabre û a fencing sword with a v-shaped blade and a slightly curved handle
logistics scimitar û a sword with a curved blade design finding its origins in western Asia
black ops panther û a large spotted feline of tropical America similar to the leopard
maurader vargur û Modern Icelandic, vargur simply means beast, in Old Norse it could have meant wolf
recon ships huggin û a raven of Observation which sat on Odin's shoulder rapier û a longe slender single-handed sword, designed to emphasize the thrust
transport ships mastodon û An extinct elephant slightly smaller than a mammoth prowler û someone who prowls or sneaks about; usually with unlawful intentions
carriers hel û Norse goddess of the dead and queen of the underworld nidhoggur û a being which gnaws one of the three roots of Yggdrasill, often seen as a serpent or dragon
dreadnoughts naglfar û Norse mythological ship made entirely from the fingernails and toenails of the dead
freighters fenrir û Norse mythological Giant wolf fathered by Loki that will Kill Oden
jump freighters nomad û someone who moves from place to place regularly and does not live in any one place for a long period of time
titans ragnarok û means the end of the cosmos in Norse mythology |
Rawr Cristina
Caldari Cult of Rawr
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Posted - 2008.02.24 02:48:00 -
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Missing HICs arn't we?
Phobos = Personification of Fear irrc
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Jei'son Bladesmith
The Storm Knights The Cool Kids Club
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Posted - 2008.02.24 02:53:00 -
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Sweet merciful everloving crap dude , obviously Z doesn't give you enough to do if you have this kinda time on yer hands.
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Ikarus Gaul
Gallente The Phalanx Expeditionary Conglomerate Blue Sky Consortium
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Posted - 2008.02.24 03:19:00 -
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Edited by: Ikarus Gaul on 24/02/2008 03:20:24 I have a theory in regards to the reason why the Gallente freighter is named "Obelisk".
If you are familiar with the classic comic "Asterix the Gaul", you'll know that there are two principal characters: Asterix, of course, and his lumbering friend Obelix. Obelix is always carrying menhirs (Gallic version of an obelisk), or anything else that the village requires of him... and complaining about it all the time.
Of course CCP can't actually name the ship "Obelix"; that would be a violation of copyright. So this is the next best thing...
[Edited for spelling and grammar]
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Esiel
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.02.24 03:27:00 -
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ok thanks HIC's added. Just so you people out there can try and figure out or if someone at CCP in the know could tell us what do augoror ??? and maller ??? mean I have no clue.
As a side - names that just didn't seem to fit charon and reah for caldari - not animal at all obelisk for gallente - not mythical just a tall pillar sin for gallente - seems more amarrish to me for minmatar stabber - um just someone who stabs really? vigil - seems amarrish hoarder, wreathe, reaper, vagabond and nomad. doesn't really fit into anything just seems to be thrown in without thought to the theme's (if you count animals swords weather and norse as a theme)
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Val Vympel
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.02.24 03:33:00 -
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Edited by: Val Vympel on 24/02/2008 03:35:27
Originally by: Esiel Edited by: Esiel on 24/02/2008 03:11:42 augoror ???
In Portuguese the word: Agurar means "to wish" or simply to "auger".
Augoror could also be derived from the word Augurio which means "omen".
These words are commonly used in Portuguese my native language. Augoror could be a very obscure Latin word.
Intersting job you have done here..kudos
As for Maller I have not a clue as to it's origen.
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Ikarus Gaul
Gallente The Phalanx Expeditionary Conglomerate Blue Sky Consortium
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Posted - 2008.02.24 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: Esiel As a side - names that just didn't seem to fit ... obelisk for gallente - not mythical just a tall pillar
Well, it's true that the Obelisk doesn't fit the overall scheme. But my theory has the attraction that they made this particular choice as Obelix is a character from a classic French comic...
Yeah, some of the other ship names on the list are a bit perplexing. The Sin and Onyx, in particular, out of the latest bunch.
Drones are like puppies... disobedient and just as hard to housebreak. |
Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.02.24 03:49:00 -
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You got a lot of free time on your hands right?
These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade! |
Franga
NQX Innovations
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Posted - 2008.02.24 04:14:00 -
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If I had a dollar for every time someone posted with this subject ... I'd probably have somewhere, hmmm, somewhere in the vicinity of ... hmmm, 20 bucks?
BTW, not complaining, just observing in an overly dramatic and pessimistic/condescending way. You've probably done the most thorough job on it of the one's I've read. And at least you're not whining about crap you have no idea about. I give the whole thing a 7/10.
Originally by: Rachel Vend ... with 100% reliability in most cases ...
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matsimo akura
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Posted - 2008.02.24 06:48:00 -
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An Obelisk is an egyptian piller that shows the way to a certain location, to guide people to that location.
The "Obelisk" in EVE could be named occordingly as to "showing" the way to riches and success.
P.S. These obelisk's would show the way to temples, pyramids etc. Pyramids being the burial sites for pharaoh's, These obelisks do technically point to riches and treasure because the pharaoh's of ancient egypt were buried with all their treasures and most dear possesions.
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yaizon
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Posted - 2008.02.24 06:53:00 -
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noticed that a lot of minmatar ships had similar names to ww2 fighter planes, might be worth looking into
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Ftangz
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.02.24 07:07:00 -
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good posts, thanks
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Zaknussem
Caldari The Ironbreakers
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Posted - 2008.02.24 07:11:00 -
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This is a great post. But what about the faction ships? Or the Jove ships? |
Kyra Felann
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2008.02.24 07:12:00 -
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Originally by: Esiel
drake û another name for dragon
Also, in real life, a male duck. Probably the most likely one given the bird naming scheme, dont'cha think?
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.02.24 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: Val Vympel Edited by: Val Vympel on 24/02/2008 03:48:17 Edited by: Val Vympel on 24/02/2008 03:35:27
Originally by: Esiel Edited by: Esiel on 24/02/2008 03:11:42 augoror ???
In Portuguese the word: Agurar means "to wish" or simply to "auger".
Augoror could also be derived from the word Augurio which means "omen".
These words are commonly used in Portuguese my native language. Augoror could be a very obscure Latin word.
Interesting job you have done here..kudos
As for Maller I have not a clue as to it's origen.
You're forgetting Latin, your original language. Any romance name in Eve comes from Latin, the mother of all civilized tongues, except for Greek which owns Latin in every way possible.
If you apply your ideas to Latin you'll be pleasantly enlightened.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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Marine HK4861
Caldari Radical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.02.24 09:03:00 -
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Originally by: Esiel
heavy interdictors onyx - a cryptocrystalline form of quartz??
I thought it referred to an African antelope species, but on further digging, the actual word is Oryx.
A naming mistake by CCP?
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Marine HK4861
Caldari Radical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.02.24 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog Latin, the mother of all civilized tongues, except for Greek which owns Latin in every way possible.
So Chinese doesn't count as a civilised tongue?
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.02.24 09:50:00 -
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I briefly considered doing something like this a while back, but got lazy and lost interest... so, thanks for taking the time and effort to do it instead. ---
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Freya Runestone
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.02.24 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Esiel thorax û Latin Breastplate
Thorax just means the torso, the area between your stomach and neck, doesn't mean armor (in itself).
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Ishina Fel
Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.02.24 10:16:00 -
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Edited by: Ishina Fel on 24/02/2008 10:18:30 Indeed, in ancient rome augurors were people who attempted to discern the future through omens. I am not proficient in Latin, but this quote I found on wikipedia from one senator Tacitus shows it quite well.
"Auguror nec me fallit augurium, historias tuas immortales futuras. --I predict, and my predictions do not fail me, that your histories will be immortal."
As for Maller, I can offer the mallet, a large wooden hammer; derived from that is the word malleable, which means that something is shapeable. So I guess Maller could mean "someone who beats things into their proper shape"
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Frobbe
Gallente Conisor Excavations Syndicate Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.02.24 10:28:00 -
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you are aware that drake is a male duck, right, not just a another term for dragon |
F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.02.24 10:37:00 -
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Edited by: F''nog on 24/02/2008 10:37:19
Originally by: Marine HK4861
Originally by: F'nog Latin, the mother of all civilized tongues, except for Greek which owns Latin in every way possible.
So Chinese doesn't count as a civilised tongue?
Please name one Eve ship that has a Chinese base and I'll retract what I stated.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2008.02.24 10:42:00 -
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Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 24/02/2008 10:43:12 drake û another name for dragon -> Also name for the male duck
buzzard û another name given to vultures -> European name for birds in the genus Buteo, usually medium sized birds of prey
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2008.02.24 10:58:00 -
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Edited by: Grimpak on 24/02/2008 11:02:36
Originally by: F'nog
Originally by: Val Vympel Edited by: Val Vympel on 24/02/2008 03:48:17 Edited by: Val Vympel on 24/02/2008 03:35:27
Originally by: Esiel Edited by: Esiel on 24/02/2008 03:11:42 augoror ???
In Portuguese the word: Agurar means "to wish" or simply to "auger".
Augoror could also be derived from the word Augurio which means "omen".
These words are commonly used in Portuguese my native language. Augoror could be a very obscure Latin word.
Interesting job you have done here..kudos
As for Maller I have not a clue as to it's origen.
You're forgetting Latin, your original language. Any romance name in Eve comes from Latin, the mother of all civilized tongues, except for Greek which owns Latin in every way possible.
If you apply your ideas to Latin you'll be pleasantly enlightened.
meh... latin is one of the 2 base languages of the western civilizations. western civilizations language are either latin-based (italian, french, portuguese, spanish, romanian (yes romanian)) or germanic based like english and german and swedish.
moving further to east, you get cyrillic, and even further you get other idioms that I don't know now and mandarin and such.
oh and augurar comes from spanish also apparently but with a totally diferent meaning.
and maller might come from maul:
Originally by: merriam-webster homepage
Middle English malle mace, maul, from Anglo-French mail, from Latin malleus; akin to Old Church Slavic mlatŭ hammer, Latin molere to grind
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