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Keras Authion Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 52	Posted - 2012.02.18 11:22:00 - [31] - Quote Amarr one is fine. It fits perfectly to the other amarrian ship lineup. Gallente one could use more curved lines like the other ships in the gallentean repertoire. Ibis looks too advanced for a noobship. Minmatar one looks like it could actually stay in one piece during maneuvers this time The current one feels like it's literally two ships crashed and bolted together.
Solhild Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 615	Posted - 2012.02.18 12:36:00 - [32] - Quote Keras Authion wrote: Amarr one is fine. It fits perfectly to the other amarrian ship lineup. Gallente one could use more curved lines like the other ships in the gallentean repertoire. Ibis looks too advanced for a noobship. Minmatar one looks like it could actually stay in one piece during maneuvers this time The current one feels like it's literally two ships crashed and bolted together. New Ibis makes the current Caldari shuttle look pretty bad, maybe that's where this model is needed? Ibis still needs an update of course.
ITTigerClawIK Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers 69	Posted - 2012.02.18 13:13:00 - [33] - Quote people saying the amarr Imperior is exactly the same have obviusly never set foot in one for a VERY long time couse i clearly saw the differences there.
Rixiu North Star Networks The Kadeshi 99	Posted - 2012.02.18 13:23:00 - [34] - Quote By the looks of the previews I find the caldari one a bit to smooth and the gallente one a tad edgy. Glad to see them revamped though, imparior was fine and it hasn't changed much but the others are just underwhelming for the new player.
Aqriue Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 472	Posted - 2012.02.18 15:52:00 - [35] - Quote Flipping awesome. They are spending time revamping newb ships, like 2 years? after mentioning it since the Scorpion. /sarcasm off Is this for real or someone just playing with a modeling program? I have been out of the loop the past week. IF its real, CCP's only excuse better be "uh...getting practice in and warming up...its been awhile" since their comment after remodeling the Scopion and every expansion afterwards...should of released new ship models already before the wacky silly new battlecruisers!
Roll Sizzle Beef 37	Posted - 2012.02.18 16:33:00 - [36] - Quote We seem to have a full-blown bittervetitus infection here.
Solhild Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 615	Posted - 2012.02.18 16:40:00 - [37] - Quote Roll Sizzle Beef wrote: We seem to have a full-blown bittervetitus infection here. So what do you think of the models as you're not infected yet?
Roll Sizzle Beef 38	Posted - 2012.02.18 17:52:00 - [38] - Quote Solhild wrote: Roll Sizzle Beef wrote: We seem to have a full-blown bittervetitus infection here. So what do you think of the models as you're not infected yet? Cant say tell they are actually finished. I could rate the shapes though. They are all smoother, rounder, kinder. Impairor is sleek and simple. Ibis is the caldari version of the consumer Hummer, "fly your own real military craft with the new I3". Velator is still gallente art. I'd also approve of the Reapers shapes involved... but it's a staggered miss-sized mess. Its like the minmatars still cant build for themselves and just make a ship from 3 other ships rather than 3 parts of the same ship duct taped together.
Solhild Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 615	Posted - 2012.02.19 17:30:00 - [39] - Quote Roll Sizzle Beef wrote: Solhild wrote: Roll Sizzle Beef wrote: We seem to have a full-blown bittervetitus infection here. So what do you think of the models as you're not infected yet? Cant say tell they are actually finished. I could rate the shapes though. They are all smoother, rounder, kinder. Impairor is sleek and simple. Ibis is the caldari version of the consumer Hummer, "fly your own real military craft with the new I3". Velator is still gallente art. I'd also approve of the Reapers shapes involved... but it's a staggered miss-sized mess. Its like the minmatars still cant build for themselves and just make a ship from 3 other ships rather than 3 parts of the same ship duct taped together. Good post, 'staggered miss-shaped mess' is a great summary. I think these ships need to look cool - textures will help but the basic hull is just pants! Could said artist start again please, a mini cane or anything that is believable would be cool
Roll Sizzle Beef 54	Posted - 2012.02.23 23:18:00 - [40] - Quote Finished textures. Ibis http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab303/Firetempest/20120223223625.jpg Impairor http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab303/Firetempest/20120223230437.jpg Velator http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab303/Firetempest/20120223224640.jpg Reaper http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab303/Firetempest/20120223225836.jpg Why oh why is it soo staggered. Their engineers cant draw a straight line?
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 930	Posted - 2012.02.23 23:32:00 - [41] - Quote My opinion on them. A vote for Akirei is a vote for Awesome!
Solhild Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 622	Posted - 2012.02.24 06:24:00 - [42] - Quote Three out of four isn't bad - the textures and detail on the Reaper are great, unfortunately applied to a daft structure. Looking closer on SISI, at least I worked out that if could be drastically saved. Place a plane of symmetry down the centre of the fuselage, delete the starboard confusion and reflect the port side to make a symmetrical ship. This would become one of the best design in the game. Any 3D artists want to try?
Roll Sizzle Beef 54	Posted - 2012.02.24 06:44:00 - [43] - Quote Solhild wrote: Three out of four isn't bad - the textures and detail on the Reaper are great, unfortunately applied to a daft structure. Looking closer on SISI, at least I worked out that if could be drastically saved. Place a plane of symmetry down the centre of the fuselage, delete the starboard confusion and reflect the port side to make a symmetrical ship. This would become one of the best design in the game. Any 3D artists want to try? You mean like this?
Johnny Marzetti GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 130	Posted - 2012.02.24 17:00:00 - [44] - Quote Roll Sizzle Beef wrote: You mean like this? just makes sense coming from a race with only 2 unsymmetrical ship hulls. Probe and Burst. Burst needing major help as well. Hey, that looks pretty cool. And even the new CCP one is an improvement over the current Reaper, which looks like a garbage barge that's been set on fire by homeless people to keep warm. Has anyone noticed that the Minmatar shuttle is actually pretty cool looking? I'd never even gotten into a shuttle until I found one floating somewhere and I was amazed at how much better it looked than half the Minmatar frigates (though definitely not the Rifter, which is the best looking ship in the whole game sorry if you like something else). To people saying the noob ships don't matter because they'll get into another ship after a few hours, um, have you looked at a Reaper for more than an hour? It actually looks like it smells bad. It's not unreasonable to think that some people might decide to get out of that ship and into a better game before they get handed their next ship (a Burst? a Slasher? a Probe? lol). Noob ships should be some of the best looking ships in the game. Once you're to the point where you're flying more powerful ships it really doesn't matter quite as much if it looks like a pile of scrap metal, a weird human head thing, a silver plated pile of poop, or a half-finished Ikea desk lamp.
Kiandoshia Amarrian Retribution 13	Posted - 2012.02.24 17:05:00 - [45] - Quote Don't really like the looks tbh. Looks too.. idk.. smooth? The Reaper doesn't have scaffolding sticking out of it anymore =(
Solhild Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 624	Posted - 2012.02.24 23:23:00 - [46] - Quote Roll Sizzle Beef wrote: Solhild wrote: Three out of four isn't bad - the textures and detail on the Reaper are great, unfortunately applied to a daft structure. Looking closer on SISI, at least I worked out that if could be drastically saved. Place a plane of symmetry down the centre of the fuselage, delete the starboard confusion and reflect the port side to make a symmetrical ship. This would become one of the best design in the game. Any 3D artists want to try? You mean like this? just makes sense coming from a race with only 2 unsymmetrical ship hulls. Probe and Burst. Burst needing major help as well. You are my new Internet hero, that looks great
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 367	Posted - 2012.02.25 00:30:00 - [47] - Quote 1 Impairor - 6/10 The phrase "hubcaps on a tractor" sprang to mind... 2 Ibis 9/10 - Looks great! Very Caldari 3 Velator 10/10 - Asymetric micro catalyst, my fav newb ship! 4 Reaper 8/10 - +2 for the upgrade from the old one, -1 for it looking too good for matari junk Gê¦Gê¦-áEvery Ship in GëíGêçGëí-áGê¦Gê¦ GëíGêçGëí-+ odd items
Sprite Can 72	Posted - 2012.02.25 00:34:00 - [48] - Quote Ibis: 9/10 Impairor: 7/10 Reaper: 7/10 Velator: 0/10 - I would fire the person who came up with this. Refreshing Lemon-Lime~
Eve Mione Eve Industry Unlimited 4	Posted - 2012.02.25 03:51:00 - [49] - Quote Ibis: 10/10 - Genuinely a nice new look. T3'd almost in appearance. Impairor: 9/10 - Simply a upgrade in textures V3'd by the looks, was a good design to begin with. Reaper: 6/10 - It is a slight step up from the original but also lacks the, original flavour. Velator: 3/10 - Seems to lack the same amount of revamp love as the Ibis. Ibis became symmetrical. I'm not asking for a complete symmetrical ship here but at least extend the wing with the bridge on it a bit and make it a tad more curvy.
Harold Tuphlos Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 42	Posted - 2012.02.25 04:11:00 - [50] - Quote Don't really care about most of them, so no real opinion on the amarr, gallente, or caldari. But the reaper gets a -10/10, the reaper as it is now is an absolutely beautiful trash heap, but the remake turns it into a shiny blob. It goes from THE minmatar rust and duct tape ship to a shiny T2 ship that doesn't look like it got pulled out of the junkyard and given to you. These ships are free, and the reaper fits that.
Jerick Ludhowe The Scope Gallente Federation 49	Posted - 2012.02.25 05:14:00 - [51] - Quote 0/10 on all of them. Epic miss management of resources going on here CCP... How about instead of wasting hundreds of collective hours on t3 looking rookie ships you get rid of the many texture seams still present in your so called "v3" ships and stop embarrassing yourselves... Btw if you disagree with my point you're one or both of two distinct types of people. First type being Noobs who obviously don't matter, second type being drooling mouth breathers who again obviously don't matter.
Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 338	Posted - 2012.02.25 05:42:00 - [52] - Quote Jerick Ludhowe wrote: 0/10 on all of them. Epic miss management of resources going on here CCP... How about instead of wasting hundreds of collective hours on t3 looking rookie ships you get rid of the many texture seams still present in your so called "v3" ships and stop embarrassing yourselves... Btw if you disagree with my point you're one or both of two distinct types of people. First type being Noobs who obviously don't matter, second type being drooling mouth breathers who again obviously don't matter. You're an idiot. If you disagree with my point, you're an idiot.
Johnny Marzetti GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 139	Posted - 2012.02.25 19:23:00 - [53] - Quote Jerick Ludhowe wrote: 0/10 on all of them. Epic miss management of resources going on here CCP... How about instead of wasting hundreds of collective hours on t3 looking rookie ships you get rid of the many texture seams still present in your so called "v3" ships and stop embarrassing yourselves... Btw if you disagree with my point you're one or both of two distinct types of people. First type being Noobs who obviously don't matter, second type being drooling mouth breathers who again obviously don't matter. You look like a hilarious badposter so I'll spell it out for you just to see what happens. Your future enjoyment of Eve Online depends on the financial success of Eve Online in the real world where people pay for game subscriptions, because if it doesn't make money CCP will put their efforts into something that does or go out of business. The financial success of Eve Online depends on expanding the player base, i.e., increasing the number of subscriptions. While veteran players do often buy additional accounts, veteran players also leave the game from time to time, or find ways to pay for their accounts with PLEX. In short, Eve needs noobs. New players who sign up for a trial account are more likely to want to continue playing this game if the first ship they see up close looks pretty cool, rather than looking like a dentist's chair, a broken faucet, a gold plated beak, or a circuit board that somebody stepped on. Now, Mr. Elite Spaceman Guy, if you think noobs don't matter to an MMO then you obviously don't understand that this thing you do only exists because someone thinks it will make them some money, and that you are not in fact a recruit in the Icelandic government's internet space program. CCP has demonstrated numerous times that it's pretty clueless about what its customer base actually wants, and so since we really don't want to see CCP fail, it's a good idea to actually give them input on things like that.
Cpt Syrinx Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 26	Posted - 2012.02.25 19:46:00 - [54] - Quote ibis - very nice update, microtengu! liking the typical complexifying treatment that the caldari new models are getting - 8/10 reaper - what are you lot on about? its freaking horizontal man! we need more horizontal ships - 7/10 impairor - hasn't changed much, like the beatle shell thing it always had going on, but where is that amarr majesty it was always missing? - 6/10 velator - still looks like a fly swatted sideways in mid-air imo - 4/10
Mekhana Spiritus Draconis 426	Posted - 2012.02.25 21:05:00 - [55] - Quote I hope to god the Velator isn't finished.
Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc 29	Posted - 2012.02.25 23:32:00 - [56] - Quote I suspect the OP made this thread just to knock on the Reaper. On a completely unrelated note, I always liked the original Reaper best but I think the greatest improvement they're making on any noobship is what they're doing with the Reaper.
Terazul The Scope Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2012.02.25 23:36:00 - [57] - Quote Roll Sizzle Beef wrote: You mean like this? just makes sense coming from a race with only 2 unsymmetrical ship hulls. Probe and Burst. Burst needing major help as well. DO WANT. So good. I support this.
Solhild Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 625	Posted - 2012.02.25 23:38:00 - [58] - Quote Reaver Glitterstim wrote: I suspect the OP made this thread just to knock on the Reaper. On a completely unrelated note, I always liked the original Reaper best but I think the greatest improvement they're making on any noobship is what they're doing with the Reaper. I'll agree it's an improvement, they all are - I'm most interested in the new art direction they imply. From a Minmatar perspective, it would be very difficult to avoid improving the designs of some ships. Can't wait to see what happens to the Gallente Dominix when the model is updated
JamesCLK Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners 39	Posted - 2012.02.26 00:16:00 - [59] - Quote Roll Sizzle Beef wrote: You mean like this? just makes sense coming from a race with only 2 unsymmetrical ship hulls. Probe and Burst. Burst needing major help as well. I'm pretty darn sure Minmatar have a lot more than two asymmetric ship hulls; the Typhoon, Tempest and even the Tornado are asymmetric to some extent. Symmetry is for Amarrian dogs; Gallente know best. As for ratings... Ibis: Anything is better than the old one; this is more than better. I like the idea of wings that retract during warp too. Velator: There wasn't much wrong with the old design besides it being a mess; the new design is much much more eyepleasing and clean - I'm intrigued about the launcher hardpoint too! Impairor: It's not obvious at first glance, but a lot of detailwork was added compared to the old ship which featured the most cardboard-box looking engines since the Augoror hull. The new look is like a high-performance engine under an older -- classic -- Amarrian shell - and I love it. Reaper: Something about it rubs me the wrong way. It's not bad by any means, but it might not be excellent either. I can't help but think we'll see a lot more Amarr/Caldari toons in the future... EDIT: updated with 3rd party screenshots on SiSi [source].
Roll Sizzle Beef Space Mutiny 70	Posted - 2012.02.26 00:53:00 - [60] - Quote JamesCLK wrote: I'm pretty darn sure Minmatar have a lot more than two asymmetric ship hulls; the Typhoon, Tempest and even the Tornado are asymmetric to some extent; in fact, it's hard to think of any really symmetric ships in the matari lineup besides maybe the Hurricane or Rifter!. I'll give you the Tempest flat out. I tend to just think of it as a vertical hull. And if you want to argue symmetry to a pure degree, nothing in eve tends to be symmetrical. Lighting or texture is usually different somehow. Yet when the vast majority of the hull is mirrored and carries its weight evenly. I pretty much call that symmetrical. Yet its not just having the same parts on either side, Typhoon its pretty asymmetrical, but has a lot of bulk in its main barrel shape, but its doo-dads are pretty evenly weighted at a 45 degree plane between the front and the rear. How about some more pure symmetrical base hulls, lets say like 95% hull mirrored, random bridge neck is negligible. Ragnarok Hel Nidhoggur Naglfar Fenrir Maelstrom Cyclone Hurricane Tornado Bellicose Rupture Scythe Stabber Thrasher Breacher rifter Slasher Vigil to the lowly rupture burst probe Tempest Typhoon Its easy to tell what they prefer.

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