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Flag Bravo
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.02.24 10:43:00 -
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Edited by: Flag Bravo on 24/02/2008 10:43:10
I have spent months in a boring search for a decent active corp. Something needs to be done. There are thousands of dead or one active member corps that you have to search through on your quest for one that has some life. Eve makes a crap single player game and a good corp is the life blood behind the game. Things that need to be done are...........
Make corps harder to set up, player's should be at least 1 year old before being allowed the option to set up a corp.
Players must learn extensive skills before making a corp.
Make corps very expensive to initially set up.
Corps that have had no active members for a week/month should be closed.
CCP, needs to sift through the existing corps and remove all the dead wood.
I believe that fewer corps to chose from would improve game play 100%
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flashfreaking
LFC
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Posted - 2008.02.24 10:53:00 -
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No, that is utter *******s. What if I want to train an alt for a managment corp of some alliance? I'm not going to wait 1 year before I can do that, so no sir, this idea is sh*t.
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Jen Oniera
Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu
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Posted - 2008.02.24 10:54:00 -
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Try taking a look at the recruitment forum, just a mouse-click away and right here on these forums.
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Celot
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.24 10:55:00 -
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no one cares or ever will
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Ash Vincetti
Decorum Inc
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Posted - 2008.02.24 10:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Flag Bravo
Make corps harder to set up, player's should be at least 1 year old before being allowed the option to set up a corp.
Players must learn extensive skills before making a corp.
Make corps very expensive to initially set up.
Because raising the bar for new players and new corporations to enter into the Eve Corporate Arena will improve things. Yes, I can see this as a new strategy for attracting customers. "Come play Eve Online, where the average account lifespan is 7 months, but you need to play a year and have $X million isk before you can fully enjoy all the options the game has!"
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Corps that have had no active members for a week/month should be closed.
No, thank you. I have several corps that my alts use where the activity is sometimes very low in a week/month. I have no intention of closing them however.
Try the recruitment channel & forum boards, check out corporations websites and forums, and their public channels. Sorry to say this, but if you're just relying on the corporate offices in and around your region, then you are doing something wrong. There are tons of active corps recruiting, and lots of new ones looking to improve their numbers. Your inability to find them has nothing to do with the current game mechanics, and your suggestions will make it worse, not better, for starting corporations to get a foothold in eve.
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Lord Zoran
Caldari
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2008.02.24 11:12:00 -
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why not just look harder? ....
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Kyoto Luyi
MX3 Development
Zzz
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Posted - 2008.02.24 11:12:00 -
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So - you're too lazy to find a decent corp and you want CCP to do the work for you? Got it... 
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Laila Eldgorn
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Posted - 2008.02.24 11:15:00 -
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How about using that new corporation recruitment tool they just implemented!?
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Richard Phallus
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Posted - 2008.02.24 11:18:00 -
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Edited by: Richard Phallus on 24/02/2008 11:19:11
I agree with the OP, however he is being far to lenient. This whole learning about things and making decisions has go to stop. Delete all corporations except for 1 per player race. All players are forced back into these corps to simplify things. We can call it factional warfare. With all that programming time saved, factional warfare being complete and bug free, they can spend all their time unwinding loops in assembly language or some other suitably asinine extremely low level optimization because lag is the cancer that is killing eve or something.
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Qutan
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.02.24 11:27:00 -
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Sorry but I dont like the idea but I do think we need a better in game listing of corps, a proper file edited by each corp telling us all about their recruiting goals rules members etc, how the corp presents itself would tell potential new members alot . Not updating this file would remove the file from the corp list so it would keep it up to date .
Not a pirate I just love the 
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.02.24 11:36:00 -
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Didn't they recently add a looking for corp interface?
How did that work out?
I do agree that any such interface in any game needs to tell people what the activity rate is (I suggest this is worked out by time logged in across characters), how much combat a corp is seeing / kills they are getting and a rough measure of how much ISK they are moving - all simplified down to vague aggregate numbers of course.
Maybe some attention to roles wanted / vacancies available would be nice too?
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Cipher7
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Posted - 2008.02.24 11:46:00 -
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Only way to find quality corps is by :
1) Sitting in recruitment channel, dont say anything, just watch for a while. The ones that spam every 30 sec are garbage. The ones that post 1 message and never post again, those are the ones you investigate.
2) Read the recruitment forums. The ones with clear cohesive message are usually well managed and active. Put some of the officers on buddy list and see how active they are.
Rule of thumb :
Corps that call themselves "mining corp" usually have a CEO that doesn't understand Eve. There are no mining corps. There are PvP corps who mine.
Corps that call themselves "PvP corp" who aren't a) in or looking to be in a 0.0 alliance b) aren't mercs c) aren't pirates d) aren't a highsec crime/extortion corp, if they aren't a b c or d, then just bypass because they know what they want (PvP) but have no plan on how to get it.
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Roy Batty68
Caldari
Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2008.02.24 11:58:00 -
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I agree with your sentiment that there's too many corps. But I don't agree that it's a game problem as in something CCP needs to fix. At least not in any direct way. It's more a player problem. And one that we have the tools to fix as it is.
Every time I see someone complaining about some bored "griefer" corp war deccing some defenseless industrial corp, I think that indy corp should justify their right to exist. I simply don't understand why people assume that they should be able to create a corp out of a bunch of mining buddies and be left alone simply because they chose to train the rock sucking kind of lazers instead of the pew pew kind.
Why not gather your industrial buddies up and join an existing corp? One that is already strong on the pvp side and could use some help with production?
But whatever... People are weird like that. And they think that by coming to the forums and complaining with some emotional appeal about "griefers" will solve their problems. Evolution imo. Cry all you want, there's plenty of ammo for everyone.
Anyway, kind of went off on a tangent there.
If CCP were to do anything to address your complaints, seems to me some kind of view into how active the corp is would be helpful. Only problem with that is it might make things difficult for new corps to get off the ground.
And btw... that's a cool sig, but it's gonna get nerfed due to it's size.
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Cipher7
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Posted - 2008.02.24 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Roy Batty68
Every time I see someone complaining about some bored "griefer" corp war deccing some defenseless industrial corp, I think that indy corp should justify their right to exist. I simply don't understand why people assume that they should be able to create a corp out of a bunch of mining buddies and be left alone simply because they chose to train the rock sucking kind of lazers instead of the pew pew kind.
Why not gather your industrial buddies up and join an existing corp? One that is already strong on the pvp side and could use some help with production?
Spot on
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Vala Novak
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Posted - 2008.02.24 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Flag Bravo
Edited by: Flag Bravo on 24/02/2008 10:43:10
I have spent months in a boring search for a decent active corp. Something needs to be done. There are thousands of dead or one active member corps that you have to search through on your quest for one that has some life. Eve makes a crap single player game and a good corp is the life blood behind the game. Things that need to be done are...........
Make corps harder to set up, player's should be at least 1 year old before being allowed the option to set up a corp.
Players must learn extensive skills before making a corp.
Make corps very expensive to initially set up.
Corps that have had no active members for a week/month should be closed.
CCP, needs to sift through the existing corps and remove all the dead wood.
I believe that fewer corps to chose from would improve game play 100%
No.
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Slez
Caldari
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2008.02.24 12:05:00 -
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Sorry, opinions on game features are deemed unworthy if people lack the intelligence to use the recruitment forum.
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Flag Bravo
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.02.24 12:24:00 -
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Make corps harder to set up, player's should be at least 1 year old before being allowed the option to set up a corp.
Players must learn extensive skills before making a corp.
Make corps very expensive to initially set up.
Corps that have had no active members for a week/month should be closed.
CCP, needs to sift through the existing corps and remove all the dead wood.
These where just a few quick ideas and not made out of solid rock.
I have tried all the tools the game has to offer in finding a good corp, but it's not enough, as someone posted here it needs to give you some indication of corp activity, how many times has it looked like a booming corp only to find out its made up mainly of alts.
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YetAnotherTradeAlt
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Posted - 2008.02.24 12:33:00 -
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Edited by: YetAnotherTradeAlt on 24/02/2008 12:33:36
Go to SomethingAwful.com.
Register for the forums.
Wait 3 months.
Boom, you're a GoonFleet bee.
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Wreth Saran
Caldari
Phantom Stallion Security Forces
New Eden Federation.
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Posted - 2008.02.24 13:12:00 -
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Edited by: Wreth Saran on 24/02/2008 13:12:10
I highly disagree with this idea, the reason that so many corps are dead is usually because of lazy CEO's, lazy members who can't be bothered to log in once in awhile, and people who just dock into these starter corporations as a pit stop for their characters but hardly come online. Me? I deal with this by having a simple one login a month activeness limit, if they can't even be bothered logging into the actual GAME for that long just to say hi then they don't deserve to be in my corporation, plain and simple, reason I've done this is because I've had the same thing, three members went inactive for an entire MONTH without logging in or even sending a mail that they were going to be awhile, people like that who can't even respect the fact that I'm trying to organize an entire bloody corporation in my free time just simply don't deserve a place there.
Try looking harder, I know for a fact that there are other starter CEO's who feel the same way about this sort of thing, the trick is finding the ones who will actually do something about that instead of just rolling their eyes and never coming online again.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.02.24 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: SoftRevolution
Didn't they recently add a looking for corp interface?
How did that work out?
I do agree that any such interface in any game needs to tell people what the activity rate is (I suggest this is worked out by time logged in across characters), how much combat a corp is seeing / kills they are getting and a rough measure of how much ISK they are moving - all simplified down to vague aggregate numbers of course.
Maybe some attention to roles wanted / vacancies available would be nice too?
Too much information, what you describe is a tool for people searching miners/industrial corporations for easy wardec, not a recruiting tool.
If one want easy wardec he should gather his informations, not get them from a directory: "Corp A hasn't killed ships this month, has moved billions, low membership, no wardec - Found the target for this week"
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Maj Woodcock
Minmatar
United Space Aillance USA
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Posted - 2008.02.24 14:30:00 -
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I'll make it a little easier your ya.
USA is not accepting any new recuirts at this time nor anytime this year.
Like they said go to the correct channel and ask there. But to me you sound like someone I would not trust.
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Buyerr
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Posted - 2008.02.24 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: flashfreaking
No, that is utter *******s. What if I want to train an alt for a managment corp of some alliance? I'm not going to wait 1 year before I can do that, so no sir, this idea is sh*t.
.... don't use alt account then... it destroyers the whole concept of the game
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Arvald
Caldari
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2008.02.24 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Flag Bravo
Edited by: Flag Bravo on 24/02/2008 10:43:10
I have spent months in a boring search for a decent active corp. Something needs to be done. There are thousands of dead or one active member corps that you have to search through on your quest for one that has some life. Eve makes a crap single player game and a good corp is the life blood behind the game. Things that need to be done are...........
Make corps harder to set up, player's should be at least 1 year old before being allowed the option to set up a corp.
Players must learn extensive skills before making a corp.
Make corps very expensive to initially set up.
Corps that have had no active members for a week/month should be closed.
CCP, needs to sift through the existing corps and remove all the dead wood.
I believe that fewer corps to chose from would improve game play 100%
well id invite you to come join the corp im in but your a little pansy so your on yer own...ya pansy
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Originally by: SoftRevolution
**** yeah. Lets hear it for being a cranky bastard.
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Caligulus
Legion of Lost Souls
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Posted - 2008.02.24 18:24:00 -
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...or maybe CCP could introduce a search feature to help filter out those "one man corps" or "private" corps or what have you. For the love of EvE man, don't suggest nerfs to CCP. Constructive criticism...not nerfing criticism.
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Mickey Simon
Asran Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.02.24 18:25:00 -
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I agree to some level.
I've had a few corp names which have been taken by seemingly inactive corporations. Perhaps a 6month or 1 year rule on CEO activity would be nice.
Having such a large restraint on creating a corp is a bit lame though. Corporations are about making ISK, and grouping together. Setting the bar higher then it already is, is in my opinion, a little silly and will definitely turn people off the game. One of the first things my friends and I did when we started EVE was set up our own corporation. It let us organise when to mission together easily, and we've met a few new friends along the way.
There are a few stupid corporations out there that don't have a real purpose, that's kinda annoying. But there's no real way to deal with it eh?
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Pantaloon McPants
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Posted - 2008.02.24 21:27:00 -
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Recruitment forum is your friend, wish ccp would abolish the employment record or keep it private, it would probably encourage people to try out more corps and not spending 17years trying to find "the perfect one and only corp i will ever join so my employment record is so awesome everyone will love me"
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Zeba
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.02.24 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Caligulus
...or maybe CCP could introduce a search feature to help filter out those "one man corps" or "private" corps or what have you. For the love of EvE man, don't suggest nerfs to CCP. Constructive criticism...not nerfing criticism.
This would be pretty good and have no negative impact. Just add a few tick boxs to the settings that let you filter by various corp attributes.
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.02.24 21:37:00 -
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There is only one corp. And it is Idle
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