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GM Nova
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Posted - 2008.02.26 13:30:00 -
[1]
Hey everyone.
We have received two official requests of withdrawal and teams have dropped out of the tournament. The two teams on top of the reserve list will take their place.
Cruel Intentions will replace When Fat kids Attack.
Band of Brothers will replace Dawn of Transcendence
We wish these teams good luck.
GM Nova
Senior Game Master
EVE Online Customer Support |
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XxAngelxX
Amarr
The Illuminati.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.02.26 13:43:00 -
[2]
Oh what a suprise!
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maGz
The Hoodie Mafia
Cosa Nostra.
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Posted - 2008.02.26 13:45:00 -
[3]
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.02.26 13:49:00 -
[4]
pathetic 
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Shadoo
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.26 13:49:00 -
[5]
Interesting  . Welcome back TWD.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.02.26 13:53:00 -
[6]
awesome
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Ishina Fel
Caldari
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.02.26 14:12:00 -
[7]
The plot thickens.
Be the Ultimate Ninja! Play Billy Vs. SNAKEMAN today! |
Athena Attom
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 14:49:00 -
[8]
[14:48] <@JakeNoble> AHAHA
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Forando
Interstellar Cowards
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Posted - 2008.02.26 15:09:00 -
[9]
Edited by: Forando on 26/02/2008 15:11:22
Interesting turn of events. No disregard for the leaving parties (whatever reason they had to withdraw ^^), but this could easily make the later rounds a bit more messy, in a good way!
Looking forward to it!
Enjoy, and fly safe..
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Taliac
Caldari
Soliders Of Eve
The Church.
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Posted - 2008.02.26 15:12:00 -
[10]
Bob in our group nice one...
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sakana
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.26 15:17:00 -
[11]
Cool ;)
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.02.26 15:30:00 -
[12]
At least it's no-one else in our group, or is it?
I think I hear some rabble rabble on the horizon, is that the sound of the goongoliers chewing up yesterdays Red Skull?
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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QwaarJet
Gallente
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.02.26 15:31:00 -
[13]
This is getting ridiculous.
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endeavour x
Hangover Heros.
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Posted - 2008.02.26 15:46:00 -
[14]
Didn't see this coming, nope. Not one bit.
"If they can't lock you, they can't shoot you." |
Proxay
Gallente
Fallen Angel's
Blade.
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Posted - 2008.02.26 15:51:00 -
[15]
Why do i KNOW that TWD is running around his house screaming half-naked in joy =/
If you're going to remove a signature, at least make sure it's got something that breaks the EULA, k-ta. |
Empero
Amarr
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 16:13:00 -
[16]
The Five > BOB!
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bitters much
Nekkid Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.26 16:15:00 -
[17]
Can I ask how much BOB did pay to Dawn of Transcendence ?
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Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.
Dawn of Transcendence
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Posted - 2008.02.26 16:17:00 -
[18]
DoT withdrew for personal reasons. No one payed us off.
EVE History Wiki
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Athena Attom
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 16:27:00 -
[19]
 Originally by: Reiisha
DoT withdrew for personal reasons. No one payed us off.
I paid 5b, dont lie.
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Rover Vitesse
Gallente
FinFleet
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 16:30:00 -
[20]
Originally by: Athena Attom
Originally by: Reiisha
DoT withdrew for personal reasons. No one payed us off.
I paid 5b, dont lie.
You paid 5b as well? |
Etianna Golovan
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Posted - 2008.02.26 16:35:00 -
[21]
Edited by: Etianna Golovan on 26/02/2008 16:35:43
5B is enough to take is as personnal as possible ?
sad for the 2 team, good luck for the 2 in
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Fenian
Caldari
Aztec Industries
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.02.26 16:36:00 -
[22]
Oh what a mess you've made of this tournament.
Cruel Intentions will not be fighting, especially since you confirmed our withdrawal two weeks ago and refunded the entry fee. I can't see how we're still "reserves" when we're not signed up any more. We're not even next in line and neither is BoB. Do the reserves now automatically qualify based on popularity? What about those who are actually signed up, why are we picked ahead of them?
Hopefully you'll learn a thing or two from this and do a better job next time.
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Excesse
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 16:38:00 -
[23]
bob vs the church eh... :D
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2008.02.26 16:40:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Empero
The Five > BOB!
nice to see our alt team got in too.. gl BOB! 
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xMenta (DSMA)
xBOS (CA)
ATUK (.5.)
DICE (BOB)
xElcyion Lacar
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ZelRox
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 16:43:00 -
[25]
we are comming in hot
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BiH 4tw |
Trypho
Minmatar
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 16:50:00 -
[26]
Good luck to our group, I`m looking forward to The Church. vs BOB \o/
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Seldarine
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 16:51:00 -
[27]
Bob doesnt stand a chance.
Go Five
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Seldarine
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TWD
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 16:51:00 -
[28]
Also requested to be removed from the reserve list a few weeks back, as it seemed at the time that the chances of being in the tournament were slim.
Considering Friday (?) is the first match, 3 days isn't exactly enough time to prepare for the tournament. I've also got other things planned.
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Wo0ki3
Caldari
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 16:54:00 -
[29]
Game On! 
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.26 16:56:00 -
[30]
Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 26/02/2008 16:57:46
Originally by: TWD
Also requested to be removed from the reserve list a few weeks back, as it seemed at the time that the chances of being in the tournament were slim.
Considering Friday (?) is the first match, 3 days isn't exactly enough time to prepare for the tournament. I've also got other things planned.
So yeah, please give the spot to another alliance.
i can share some unbeatable setups for you if you want because we're pals like that twd
Originally by: Fenian
Oh what a mess you've made of this tournament.
yeah man you did a much better job lmao
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.26 17:02:00 -
[31]
Wait wait wait, both Vegeta/Fenian and TWD confirmed that they withdrew WEEKS ago, and you, CCP, even acknowledged that by refunding the entry fees - yet not only do they just happen to be at the very top of the reserve list, the two most popular teams (BoB and CI, arguably) not in the tournament just happened to get squeezed in at the last possible moment.
You guys are such a ******* joke.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.02.26 17:05:00 -
[32]
he did do a much better job
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.26 17:05:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
he did do a much better job
You only say that because you have a hard-on for the state raven, admit it.
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maGz
The Hoodie Mafia
Cosa Nostra.
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Posted - 2008.02.26 17:06:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Wait wait wait, both Vegeta/Fenian and TWD confirmed that they withdrew WEEKS ago, and you, CCP, even acknowledged that by refunding the entry fees - yet not only do they just happen to be at the very top of the reserve list, the two most popular teams (BoB and CI, arguably) not in the tournament just happened to get squeezed in at the last possible moment.
You guys are such a ******* joke.
Like I said in a different thread - we should all boycott the tourney so I can get a titan... 
On a more serious note - /signed on the whole CCP being a joke (not that everyone didn't already know)
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Waywatcher
0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.02.26 17:15:00 -
[35]
CI will not be participating in this badly orginised event. Good luck too the teams that managed to get their executors too log in within a 2 day time bracket. |
nomlasmit
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.26 17:16:00 -
[36]
Wasn't this planned at the BBQ in 1806???
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Kemi Valar
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Posted - 2008.02.26 17:17:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Fenian
Oh what a mess you've made of this tournament.
Cruel Intentions will not be fighting, especially since you confirmed our withdrawal two weeks ago and refunded the entry fee. I can't see how we're still "reserves" when we're not signed up any more. We're not even next in line and neither is BoB. Do the reserves now automatically qualify based on popularity? What about those who are actually signed up, why are we picked ahead of them?
Hopefully you'll learn a thing or two from this and do a better job next time.
I would be pleased by an answer to this
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TimGascoigne
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Posted - 2008.02.26 17:27:00 -
[38]
BOB are in oh joy \o/
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2008.02.26 17:30:00 -
[39]
Originally by: TimGascoigne
BOB are in oh joy \o/
You might wanna re read the thread, both CI and BOB look to have turned down the offer
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xMenta (DSMA)
xBOS (CA)
ATUK (.5.)
DICE (BOB)
xElcyion Lacar
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Ovek
Gallente
Cosmic Fusion
When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.02.26 17:31:00 -
[40]
Who do i convo ingame?
I'd like to know who withdrew us because it wasn't us.
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sakana
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.26 17:33:00 -
[41]
BoB and CI would have spiced things up a bit, sorry to hear you guys aren't gonna be taking part (understandable of course). So, who (if anyone) will be taking these two free slots now?
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Junkie Beverage
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.26 17:37:00 -
[42]
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Ovek
Gallente
Cosmic Fusion
When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.02.26 17:38:00 -
[43]
Originally by: sakana
BoB and CI would have spiced things up a bit, sorry to hear you guys aren't gonna be taking part (understandable of course). So, who (if anyone) will be taking these two free slots now?
Seeing as Mang0o entered us and is currently on an oil rig in Norway i see it as unbelieveable that there has been an "official request".
We didn't pull out.
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joefishy
Spartan Industries
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.02.26 17:38:00 -
[44]
I do understand you guys have been working hard behind the scenes for this torny..
but telling a team 3 days before there actual first match they have a place is kinda like Meh.
O Well , I can also say Cruel intentions Wont have a team so you can drop them out and put another reserve team in.
Good luck to all invovled.
TRI FOR THE WIN !!!!
:)
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Eltyron
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.26 17:42:00 -
[45]
Can we get that Oversight-Council of players you promised us early last year to review the discrepancies in this tournament?
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Athena Attom
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 17:44:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Eltyron
Can we get that Oversight-Council of players you promised us early last year to review the discrepancies in this tournament?
i think that got lost in their press release
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Malar
HUN Corp.
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2008.02.26 17:44:00 -
[47]
Seriously.. i do not know what to believe anymore.
That BOB and CI turned it down, im not suprised.. we prolly would have done the same this close to start. Its just not how things work.. being a reserve is okay, but you cant seriously be expected to sit on the edge of your seat until the very last moment waiting for the magic call to come and replace someone.
Then again.. this was to be expected.
What did strike me completely unexpected tho is the statement by Ovek. I had that funny feeling as if i would be reliving the past somehow.. Red Skull, anyone?
Still.. if this continues, the 4th tournament will have more drama before its actual start, than the ones before it had all together.
/me preps the popcorn and sits back to watch.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.02.26 17:45:00 -
[48]
this is the fifth
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Waywatcher
0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.02.26 17:46:00 -
[49]
Basically the whole thing is just a complete shambles again. All of this could have been so easily avoided with very little planning but AGAIN CCP seem too have fallen short.
But hey, its not like we pay too play this game is it! |
Proxay
Gallente
Fallen Angel's
Blade.
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Posted - 2008.02.26 18:07:00 -
[50]
failtrain.
If you're going to remove a signature, at least make sure it's got something that breaks the EULA, k-ta. |
Jacobi Borne
Gallente
QUANT Corp.
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Posted - 2008.02.26 18:11:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Fenian
Oh what a mess you've made of this tournament.
Cruel Intentions will not be fighting, especially since you confirmed our withdrawal two weeks ago and refunded the entry fee. I can't see how we're still "reserves" when we're not signed up any more. We're not even next in line and neither is BoB. Do the reserves now automatically qualify based on popularity? What about those who are actually signed up, why are we picked ahead of them?
Hopefully you'll learn a thing or two from this and do a better job next time.
Why don't you scam someone over it.
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Proxay
Gallente
Fallen Angel's
Blade.
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Posted - 2008.02.26 18:18:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Jacobi Borne
Originally by: Fenian
Oh what a mess you've made of this tournament.
Cruel Intentions will not be fighting, especially since you confirmed our withdrawal two weeks ago and refunded the entry fee. I can't see how we're still "reserves" when we're not signed up any more. We're not even next in line and neither is BoB. Do the reserves now automatically qualify based on popularity? What about those who are actually signed up, why are we picked ahead of them?
Hopefully you'll learn a thing or two from this and do a better job next time.
Why don't you scam someone over it.
Why are you even posting here you bitter man. It has nothing to do with you.
Further note:
This is getting quite interesting, will we see 1 spot slide, and have an empty slot? or will a team step up with 3 days notice and take the challenge.
If you're going to remove a signature, at least make sure it's got something that breaks the EULA, k-ta. |
Pesadel0
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 18:37:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
he did do a much better job
Yup.
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.26 18:53:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Ovek
Who do i convo ingame?
I'd like to know who withdrew us because it wasn't us.
Originally by: Ovek
Originally by: sakana
BoB and CI would have spiced things up a bit, sorry to hear you guys aren't gonna be taking part (understandable of course). So, who (if anyone) will be taking these two free slots now?
Seeing as Mang0o entered us and is currently on an oil rig in Norway i see it as unbelieveable that there has been an "official request".
We didn't pull out.
This posts need quoted more because I'm really interested in how CCP tries to explain this.
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.02.26 19:01:00 -
[55]
CCP organizers do you think we (the players) are all clinically ******** or something? This is a serious question.
- Gob
IXC Recruitment |
Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.02.26 19:10:00 -
[56]
The replacement teams weren't asked if they were still interested in the slots before announced?
I do believe this thread qualifies as a vote of no confidence in GM Nova running the tournament and that we've had all the drama we need for now and would like to see a resignation after this event.
These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade! |
Sakura Nihil
Stimulus
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.02.26 19:13:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Junkie Beverage
Seconded.
This is turning into quite the dramabomb .
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ookke
TALON'S GRIP
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Posted - 2008.02.26 19:14:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Wendat Huron
The replacement teams weren't asked if they were still interested in the slots before announced?
I do believe this thread qualifies as a vote of no confidence in GM Nova running the tournament and that we've had all the drama we need for now and would like to see a resignation after this event.
I said that after his last year 'efforts', I guess now everyone else can agree with me 
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Skyraker7
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.26 19:17:00 -
[59]
Edited by: Skyraker7 on 26/02/2008 19:17:47
Just put BOB in PL's group and have NOL as the prize.... much better than the lag we have to endure on your ****ty F******* server.
I suppose giving BOB a place ahead of every other reserve team is your way of saying sorry for taking those bluprints from them.
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.26 19:24:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Skyraker7
Edited by: Skyraker7 on 26/02/2008 19:18:31
Just put BOB in PL's group and have NOL as the prize.... much better than the lag we have to endure on your ****ty F******* server.
I suppose giving BOB a place ahead of every other reserve team is your way of saying sorry for taking those blueprints from them.
Come on man, this has nothing to do with BoB. I like blaming them for ****, but only when they have a hand in it and deserve to take the ****. There's no foul play here on the part of BoB or CI - it's just CCP being incompetent. Nothing more.
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Skyraker7
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.26 19:28:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Skyraker7 on 26/02/2008 19:28:48
@Dungar
You're F******* bi-polar. (skitzo, not sucking bear Diicks.)
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ghost437
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 19:33:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Skyraker7
Edited by: Skyraker7 on 26/02/2008 19:28:48
@Dungar
You're F******* bi-polar. (skitzo, not sucking bear Diicks.)
I lol'd wtf.
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.02.26 19:36:00 -
[63]
Btw TWD dont be a girl you can still put a team together in one week. Take it as a challenge =o
- Gob
IXC Recruitment |
MAXSuicide
Cosmic Fusion
When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.02.26 19:37:00 -
[64]
so...we're out of the tourny?
mang0o obviously called up ur offices and told u guys that he's on an oilrig in the north sea so because he cant get some fun nobody else can?!
...no i dont think thats the case..
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Tehel Necrona
Minmatar
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.26 19:54:00 -
[65]
It wouldn't be the same without the drama.
I'm waiting for some funny GM actions during the tourney, maybe a quick rule change here and there or blowing up wrong ships for penalties.
P.S. don't do them to PL plz :P
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Junkie Beverage
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.26 20:26:00 -
[66]
man this thread has potential for laffs
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.26 20:28:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Junkie Beverage
man this thread has potential for laffs
yo what up jb
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Junkie Beverage
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.26 20:30:00 -
[68]
just toastin and postin
what up w/ it vanillaface
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Mysdora
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.26 20:36:00 -
[69]
Nice mess again, but pointing and laughing at CCP isn't helping anyone. Would be nice if CI and BoB reconsidered their decision to withdraw.
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Evil Edna
Seal Cub Clubbing Club
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Posted - 2008.02.26 20:49:00 -
[70]
nevermind the fact that taking part now would be legitimising this farce, two and a half days is not enough time to sort out a team and a strategy unless you want to just fail epically.
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Mysdora
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.26 21:07:00 -
[71]
What is the alternative for "legitimizing this farce"? Missing 2 teams? Having 2 random teams with less than a week to prepare, without the previous experience of CI and BoB? All things considered it would be best to have CI and BoB take the slots and get on with the show, but noooo... players must dwell in their precious forum drama where CCP always sucks and GMs get lynched.
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GM Nova
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Posted - 2008.02.26 21:09:00 -
[72]
It turns out that one of the official requests was made in error and the team is ready and willing to participate in the event.
Since Cruel Intentions have no intentions of participating, When Fat Kids Attack will reclaim their place in the tournament. We wish them the best of luck.
GM Nova
Senior Game Master
EVE Online Customer Support |
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ghost437
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 21:12:00 -
[73]
Originally by: GM Nova
It turns out that one of the official requests was made in error and the team is ready and willing to participate in the event.
Since Cruel Intentions have no intentions of participating, When Fat Kids Attack will reclaim their place in the tournament. We wish them the best of luck.
Lol fail alert.
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Junkie Beverage
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.26 21:16:00 -
[74]
the hits keep coming
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QwaarJet
Gallente
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.02.26 21:20:00 -
[75]
Originally by: GM Nova
It turns out that one of the official requests was made in error and the team is ready and willing to participate in the event.
Since Cruel Intentions have no intentions of participating, When Fat Kids Attack will reclaim their place in the tournament. We wish them the best of luck.
And what about BoB? They said they are withdrawing......who gets their place?
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GM Nova
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Posted - 2008.02.26 21:33:00 -
[76]
Originally by: QwaarJet
Originally by: GM Nova
It turns out that one of the official requests was made in error and the team is ready and willing to participate in the event.
Since Cruel Intentions have no intentions of participating, When Fat Kids Attack will reclaim their place in the tournament. We wish them the best of luck.
And what about BoB? They said they are withdrawing......who gets their place?
How nice of you to ask. The Alliance at the top of the reserve list wasted no time in contacting us and announcing their interest. It is with great pleasure that I welcome United Corporations Against Macros to the tournament. We have great expectations and wish them good luck.
GM Nova
Senior Game Master
EVE Online Customer Support |
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.26 21:47:00 -
[77]
Originally by: GM Nova
It turns out that one of the official requests was made in error and the team is ready and willing to participate in the event.
Since Cruel Intentions have no intentions of participating, When Fat Kids Attack will reclaim their place in the tournament. We wish them the best of luck.
lmao
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Forando
Interstellar Cowards
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Posted - 2008.02.26 21:49:00 -
[78]
..I give up, I'm terrible confused now! 
Enjoy, and fly safe..
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EntroX
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 22:04:00 -
[79]
Posting in a epic mess.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.02.26 22:09:00 -
[80]
Originally by: EntroX
Posting in a epic mess.
I choose to see it as Le Mans or whatever that was with a running start and lots of crashes. Who will make it to the starting line?
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
Also Known As |
sakana
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.26 22:10:00 -
[81]
I vote we skip all this crap and just vote ME the ruler of the universe, and give me all your prize!
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Elve Sorrow
Amarr
Game-Over
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.02.26 22:13:00 -
[82]
lol
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Kemi Valar
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Posted - 2008.02.26 22:24:00 -
[83]
Originally by: GM Nova
Originally by: QwaarJet
Originally by: GM Nova
It turns out that one of the official requests was made in error and the team is ready and willing to participate in the event.
Since Cruel Intentions have no intentions of participating, When Fat Kids Attack will reclaim their place in the tournament. We wish them the best of luck.
And what about BoB? They said they are withdrawing......who gets their place?
How nice of you to ask. The Alliance at the top of the reserve list wasted no time in contacting us and announcing their interest. It is with great pleasure that I welcome United Corporations Against Macros to the tournament. We have great expectations and wish them good luck.
If they are at the top, why did bob get in above them before?
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.02.26 22:34:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Kemi Valar
Originally by: GM Nova
Originally by: QwaarJet
Originally by: GM Nova
It turns out that one of the official requests was made in error and the team is ready and willing to participate in the event.
Since Cruel Intentions have no intentions of participating, When Fat Kids Attack will reclaim their place in the tournament. We wish them the best of luck.
And what about BoB? They said they are withdrawing......who gets their place?
How nice of you to ask. The Alliance at the top of the reserve list wasted no time in contacting us and announcing their interest. It is with great pleasure that I welcome United Corporations Against Macros to the tournament. We have great expectations and wish them good luck.
If they are at the top, why did bob get in above them before?
Now you're just fishing for more drama, they're clearly at the top now once those two got their wish and opted not to recieve it.
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Ernesto Hoost
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Posted - 2008.02.26 23:16:00 -
[85]
Quality job
Fake post in the OP. Fat Kids never withdrew, Total screw up on who the reserves were (both BOB and CI had already withdrawn)
Silky smooth tournament organization. Bring back Vegeta 
And with all the bribe me for tournament slot posts out there, this must be the most chaotic tourney, and it hasn't even started.
What thread do I post in to bribe the judges?
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.02.26 23:18:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Ernesto Hoost
Quality job
Fake post in the OP. Fat Kids never withdrew, Total screw up on who the reserves were (both BOB and CI had already withdrawn)
Silky smooth tournament organization. Bring back Vegeta
And with all the bribe me for tournament slot posts out there, this must be the most chaotic tourney, and it hasn't even started.
What thread do I post in to bribe the judges?
Vegeta is LeMonde? Maybe if he fires the ECM Burst before every match this time.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Ernesto Hoost
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Posted - 2008.02.26 23:22:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Vegeta is LeMonde?
Confirmed, but I doubt he will have anything to do with this monumental (male chicken) up
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5n4keyes
Sacred Templars
DeStInY.
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Posted - 2008.02.26 23:28:00 -
[88]
So...
CI are out, Fat Kids back in...
Bob out, United Corporations Against Macros replacements...
woo... mighty confusing...
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Hey You
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 23:50:00 -
[89]
Originally by: GM Nova
We have great expectations and wish them good luck.
I am sure they will do awesome with 2 days notice. Great job as usual CCP.
Also posting in a epic mess sounds about right
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Ohne
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.27 00:10:00 -
[90]
Originally by: cflux
Edited by: cflux on 26/02/2008 19:23:05
Originally by: Skyraker7
Edited by: Skyraker7 on 26/02/2008 19:18:31
I suppose giving BOB a place ahead of every other reserve team is your way of saying sorry for taking those blueprints from them.
Why don't you go and nano a ship about it and come to lose it to a fleet fight you so much hate.
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Zenst
Gallente
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2008.02.27 00:13:00 -
[91]
Originally by: ghost437
Originally by: GM Nova
It turns out that one of the official requests was made in error and the team is ready and willing to participate in the event.
Since Cruel Intentions have no intentions of participating, When Fat Kids Attack will reclaim their place in the tournament. We wish them the best of luck.
Lol fail alert.
Oh thats nothing - imagine the fail had CI, even at late notice wanted to compete. Now that would of been a wiki entry under fail
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Tehel Necrona
Minmatar
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.27 00:24:00 -
[92]
i hope the fat kids do well now
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Hortoken Wolfbrother
Amarr
Free Lapland
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2008.02.27 01:26:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Hey You
Originally by: GM Nova
We have great expectations and wish them good luck.
I am sure they will do awesome with 2 days notice. Great job as usual CCP.
Also posting in a epic mess sounds about right
oh **** were sposed to practice? Better get to that.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.02.27 01:33:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Ernesto Hoost
Quality job
Fake post in the OP. Fat Kids never withdrew, Total screw up on who the reserves were (both BOB and CI had already withdrawn)
Silky smooth tournament organization. Bring back Vegeta
And with all the bribe me for tournament slot posts out there, this must be the most chaotic tourney, and it hasn't even started.
What thread do I post in to bribe the judges?
I still love how last tounry when my team lost ships after the match ended and they counted them as points.
GM Nova rewarded point for kills after the cease fire was called, wtf.
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ANGRY23
Caldari
Havoc Inc
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.02.27 01:37:00 -
[95]
Edited by: ANGRY23 on 27/02/2008 01:38:03
Something Mr Thorrk once said springs to mind here......LOLLERSKATES!!!!!!!
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MAXSuicide
Cosmic Fusion
When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.02.27 02:06:00 -
[96]
Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/02/2008 02:06:42
cut the organisers some slack guys - maybe you reckon u could do better?
******* game ffs...
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.02.27 03:21:00 -
[97]
Originally by: MAXSuicide
Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/02/2008 02:06:42
cut the organisers some slack guys - maybe you reckon u could do better?
******* game ffs...
yes most do.
I don't even think GM nova watches the tourny.
Once again I ask if GM nova could PLEASE be an expert and spend some time actually involved with eve.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.02.27 03:25:00 -
[98]
Originally by: MAXSuicide
Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/02/2008 02:06:42
cut the organisers some slack guys - maybe you reckon u could do better?
******* game ffs...
Actually I do. One would think they'd gotten their **** together now after reviewing past incidents and had a meeting about how to avoid such situations in the future but clearly someone missed that memo.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Vasponger
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2008.02.27 03:59:00 -
[99]
yes cut them some slack, they had to work really hard on coming up with a plan to close our alliance early, just to get HUN reloaded in. you cant expect them to spend a bunch of extra time to actually get the reserves list in the correct order.
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Jacobi Borne
Gallente
QUANT Corp.
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Posted - 2008.02.27 06:14:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Vasponger
yes cut them some slack, they had to work really hard on coming up with a plan to close our alliance early, just to get HUN reloaded in. you cant expect them to spend a bunch of extra time to actually get the reserves list in the correct order.
Oh c'mon, its not like you actually had a chance.
Originally by: Proxay
Why are you even posting here you bitter man. It has nothing to do with you.
That was supposed to be tongue in cheek, maybe next time I'll use a smiley, just so the slow people know whats what.
This has been the worst executed tourney I've witnessed. The one Lemonde handled was great and he was so young. How is it possible that it degenerated into this farce? Who's fault is it, are we right to want to blame people?
If I were a current team captain, and considering that my alt was in UCAM not so long ago that could have been possible, :P, I would pull my team out and encourage that others do the same. This should hopefully force ccp to abandon this mess and flush it like an abortion.
After that, rebuild. Reset the applications and give everyone entering a week to reply. If anyone is left behind then **** em. If you haven't been paying attention to something you supposedly have devoted your alliance to then you have no place taking part.
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Bozse
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.27 07:27:00 -
[101]
These tournaments have devolved the same way most competative games do when changed to be more mainstream, it needs to be somewhat elitist to remain interesting, as a comparison CS was made more and more mainstream by Valve and the highend competative play became less interesting over time as the avg Joe was helped by changes to the game.
Lemond did a good job with the design of the original tournament imo, sure it was expensive and required good SP chars and alot of planing to be competative but to me that's what made it both fun and interesting, when changed to allow every alliance a more fair chance the excitement of seeing the biggest and the best fight it out disapered.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
EVE is designed to be a dark and harsh world
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Norwood Franskly
Minmatar
Fleet of the Damned
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.27 12:10:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Bozse
These tournaments have devolved the same way most competative games do when changed to be more mainstream, it needs to be somewhat elitist to remain interesting, as a comparison CS was made more and more mainstream by Valve and the highend competative play became less interesting over time as the avg Joe was helped by changes to the game.
I don't know if your trolling on purpose or not, but i'll bite.
I strongly disagree, I enjoyed the last tournment a lot, wheres the fun in watching a bunch of cashed up vets fly faction ships, elitism is a bad thing in any sport as it implies favoritism and in no way makes the sport more interesting to the average viewer.
The way the tournment's setup now everyone has an even chance and it gives people the scope to be creative and design clever tactics while at the same time places all the teams on even starting footing. Can the same be said of previous tournements, even the fourth tournemnet favored the alliances that could afford to supply multiple pilots with high grade implant sets, I think this years descion to remove them makes things much more interesting.
The teams that do well in this tournement will be the ones who put the most thought into their setups and utilise the best teamwork and I think thats the way it should be. No one in Eve should be given the Silver spoon treatment, which is a big reason why people are responding negatively to the handling of this "reserves list", it's also interesting to note most of the people responding favorably are the said 'cashed up vets'... Interesting.
I'm looking forward to the tournement, now if only CCP didn't screw up so many things, but with recent bungles over patches etc and now things like this it suggests they have a bit of a quality control issue.
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Mercahnt
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Posted - 2008.02.27 12:10:00 -
[103]
wow
so you won 3 tourneys with lemond as referee , it was great
now you got anihilatet in the 4th tourney wich was a great fun to watch and you lost interrest and its non elite anymore ?
and you cant bother to start in the 5th ?
how disapointing
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Kerfira
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.02.27 13:05:00 -
[104]
Edited by: Kerfira on 27/02/2008 13:06:47
Originally by: Mercahnt
wow
so you won 3 tourneys with lemond as referee , it was great
now you got anihilatet in the 4th tourney wich was a great fun to watch and you lost interrest and its non elite anymore ?
and you cant bother to start in the 5th ?
how disapointing
CAOD is that way =>
We don't really need that in here.....
I think most people reading this forum agrees that the signup process for this tournament has been fubahr'd to the max by CCP. Silly and changing decisions and a general lack of anything remotely resembling professional handling.
The previous tournament organiser did a much better job than the current one.
I fully understand both BoB and CI's desicions not to run. Telling them 3 days before (with the test server down too) is a joke! Add to that the comedy effect of one of the withdrawn teams not having withdrawn anyway and the failboat is full...
As for 'elite' vs 'commoners', it can be argued that 'elite' is much more exciting. You get to cheer some teams on, and hate others!
With this tournament lineup, most people will not know more than 1 out of 5 of the teams (maybe less), thus they'll not care.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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HostageTaker
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.27 14:06:00 -
[105]
This thread is more entertaining than the actual event! LMFAO!!!!
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Bozse
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.27 14:37:00 -
[106]
I don't know if your trolling on purpose or not, but i'll bite.
Not trolling at all, just giving my opinion the way i see it.
I strongly disagree, I enjoyed the last tournment a lot, wheres the fun in watching a bunch of cashed up vets fly faction ships, elitism is a bad thing in any sport as it implies favoritism and in no way makes the sport more interesting to the average viewer.
This is where we simply will have do disagree, now i might know who 2-3 teams are and as such will have no interest in keeping track untill the final if a team i know ends up in it.
The way the tournment's setup now everyone has an even chance and it gives people the scope to be creative and design clever tactics while at the same time places all the teams on even starting footing. Can the same be said of previous tournements, even the fourth tournemnet favored the alliances that could afford to supply multiple pilots with high grade implant sets, I think this years descion to remove them makes things much more interesting.
There is more then enough big alliances that have the isk to compete at this lvl and the tactics is just as complex, hell even more with pirate implants as you have another dimension to your team with those bonuses.
The teams that do well in this tournement will be the ones who put the most thought into their setups and utilise the best teamwork and I think thats the way it should be. No one in Eve should be given the Silver spoon treatment, which is a big reason why people are responding negatively to the handling of this "reserves list", it's also interesting to note most of the people responding favorably are the said 'cashed up vets'... Interesting.
Never said i thought the reserve list was handled in a good way, top of the list shuld have the spot, either way we'r not interested on this short notice so mehh.
I'm looking forward to the tournement
Im not.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
EVE is designed to be a dark and harsh world
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Bozse
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.27 14:39:00 -
[107]
wow
so you won 3 tourneys with lemond as referee , it was great
now you got anihilatet in the 4th tourney wich was a great fun to watch and you lost interrest and its non elite anymore ?
and you cant bother to start in the 5th ?
how disapointing
Not what i said but hey hard to make me look bad without putting words in my mouth.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
EVE is designed to be a dark and harsh world
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Necronus
Amarr
Monks of War
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Posted - 2008.02.27 14:46:00 -
[108]
Edited by: Necronus on 27/02/2008 14:46:08
Originally by: Kerfira
Edited by: Kerfira on 27/02/2008 13:06:47
Originally by: Mercahnt
wow
so you won 3 tourneys with lemond as referee , it was great
now you got anihilatet in the 4th tourney wich was a great fun to watch and you lost interrest and its non elite anymore ?
and you cant bother to start in the 5th ?
how disapointing
CAOD is that way =>
We don't really need that in here.....
I think most people reading this forum agrees that the signup process for this tournament has been fubahr'd to the max by CCP. Silly and changing decisions and a general lack of anything remotely resembling professional handling.
The previous tournament organiser did a much better job than the current one.
I fully understand both BoB and CI's desicions not to run. Telling them 3 days before (with the test server down too) is a joke! Add to that the comedy effect of one of the withdrawn teams not having withdrawn anyway and the failboat is full...
As for 'elite' vs 'commoners', it can be argued that 'elite' is much more exciting. You get to cheer some teams on, and hate others!
With this tournament lineup, most people will not know more than 1 out of 5 of the teams (maybe less), thus they'll not care.
Huh.
Whiners always blame CCP in theyr troubles.
For instance if a team withdraws 1 hour before tourney starts it is still CCP's fault? :D
Actually if they were interested in participating :
1) They would actually sign up in time. ( Mkay lets skip that part due to real life trouble and stuff, which i think is just an excuse)
2) They would be ready to perform anyway even in a reserve list.
Actually that is the position of an orginized team that is aimed to win.
Huh. Wait. i'm talking about mighty bob they are too busy plotting new "conquerthegalaxymakeallslaves!!" masterplan. (:
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Hey You
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.27 15:04:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Necronus
Huh. Wait. i'm talking about mighty bob they are too busy plotting new "conquerthegalaxymakeallslaves!!" masterplan. (:
Yes.
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Kerfira
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.02.27 15:19:00 -
[110]
Edited by: Kerfira on 27/02/2008 15:20:19
Originally by: Necronus
Actually if they were interested in participating :
1) They would actually sign up in time. ( Mkay lets skip that part due to real life trouble and stuff, which i think is just an excuse)
2) They would be ready to perform anyway even in a reserve list.
Actually that is the position of an orginized team that is aimed to win.
You may not have noticed it, but both both BoB and CI had been REMOVED from the reserves list
I understand why you might have missed it, since it would require you to actually read the thread you're replying to.
So, as they're not on the reserve list, why should they have continued to train for a tournament they weren't in???
This, and the first-come method of signing up, AND all the other changing decisions and mistakes by GM Nova, fully validated the "signup process fubahr'd to the max by CCP" part.
Go away CCP fanboi! No matter how much you love them, your heroes made a horrible mess of this tournament!
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.02.27 15:28:00 -
[111]
Well iirc all reserve teams got refunded their billion.
Nova probably didn't bother removing anyone from reserve list, or reading his mail for that matter.
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GM Nova
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Posted - 2008.02.27 15:34:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Well iirc all reserve teams got refunded their billion.
Nova probably didn't bother removing anyone from reserve list, or reading his mail for that matter.
Before this matter gets misrepresented any more, here is a link to the announcement which followed the refund of the signup fee.
Linkage
As you can see, it actually states that all teams are still considered as being on the reserve list.
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Senior Game Master
EVE Online Customer Support |
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Lisa Ikura
New World Disorders
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Posted - 2008.02.27 15:35:00 -
[113]
this has turned into a joke
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Zenst
Gallente
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2008.02.27 16:00:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Lisa Ikura
this has turned into a joke
Then laugh more :).
Please state that the final four also win places into the next tourny - king fairness dictates it.
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Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises
Babylon Project
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Posted - 2008.02.27 17:23:00 -
[115]
Man just when i had all my bets on paper :)
Next time BIG should also make a bet option on how many and whihc teams will actually fight ;)
All the stuff above does not necessarily reflect my corp, my alliance or even me..
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Necronus
Amarr
Monks of War
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Posted - 2008.02.27 17:30:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Kerfira
Edited by: Kerfira on 27/02/2008 15:20:19
Originally by: Necronus
Actually if they were interested in participating :
1) They would actually sign up in time. ( Mkay lets skip that part due to real life trouble and stuff, which i think is just an excuse)
2) They would be ready to perform anyway even in a reserve list.
Actually that is the position of an orginized team that is aimed to win.
You may not have noticed it, but both both BoB and CI had been REMOVED from the reserves list
I understand why you might have missed it, since it would require you to actually read the thread you're replying to.
So, as they're not on the reserve list, why should they have continued to train for a tournament they weren't in???
This, and the first-come method of signing up, AND all the other changing decisions and mistakes by GM Nova, fully validated the "signup process fubahr'd to the max by CCP" part.
Go away CCP fanboi! No matter how much you love them, your heroes made a horrible mess of this tournament!
I think you are the one who doesnt read threads carefuly.
Actually CCP deserves much more respect than smartass "participants". (:
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Nyack
GREY COUNCIL
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.27 17:41:00 -
[117]
Maybe if the prizes were actually worht the effort, people woudlnt have such issues to field good teams?
I know the glory thing what ever.. but what does that give you? a few weeks attention every time the tournemant is aired but then the rest of the year it doesnt matter at all..
up the prices god damn it..
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Rippey
Minmatar
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.02.27 18:04:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Norwood Franskly
I don't know if your trolling on purpose or not, but i'll bite.
I strongly disagree, I enjoyed the last tournment a lot, wheres the fun in watching a bunch of cashed up vets fly faction ships, elitism is a bad thing in any sport as it implies favoritism and in no way makes the sport more interesting to the average viewer.
The way the tournment's setup now everyone has an even chance and it gives people the scope to be creative and design clever tactics while at the same time places all the teams on even starting footing. Can the same be said of previous tournements, even the fourth tournemnet favored the alliances that could afford to supply multiple pilots with high grade implant sets, I think this years descion to remove them makes things much more interesting.
The teams that do well in this tournement will be the ones who put the most thought into their setups and utilise the best teamwork and I think thats the way it should be. No one in Eve should be given the Silver spoon treatment, which is a big reason why people are responding negatively to the handling of this "reserves list", it's also interesting to note most of the people responding favorably are the said 'cashed up vets'... Interesting.
I'm looking forward to the tournement, now if only CCP didn't screw up so many things, but with recent bungles over patches etc and now things like this it suggests they have a bit of a quality control issue.
As Bosze here implies, I beg to differ in regards to your view on the "elitism" matter.
The Alliance tournaments implies that the best and most commited of the alliances should battle for the crown. If you want to compete with the big boys, you need to up the stakes and put the money on the table. And basically, it all comes down to ISK. And it, imho, should. If you don't have the high end SP characters, you and your alliance can buy it. If you don't have the faction ships you want to field, you can buy it.
If you don't got the pirate implants, you can buy that too. It all comes down to how much commitment you, your team and your alliance has and is willing to put down.
So there you have the ISK. ISK rules EVE. Ofcourse ISK won't help you if you don't got a solid team and a solid battle plan. That can't be bought.
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Waywatcher
0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.02.27 18:48:00 -
[119]
Originally by: MAXSuicide
Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/02/2008 02:06:42
cut the organisers some slack guys - maybe you reckon u could do better?
******* game ffs...
Give them a break? the run up too this tourney has been a complete joke!!!
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Posted - 2008.02.27 18:55:00 -
[120]
The elitist "this isn't what it used to be" argument always pops up in games, usually by the old timers who back in the early days dominated the field, but couldn't cope with the competition when it became accessible to a wider audience.
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Centra Spike
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.02.27 19:37:00 -
[121]
Edited by: Centra Spike on 27/02/2008 19:39:24
Originally by: Rippey
The Alliance tournaments implies that the best and most commited of the alliances should battle for the crown. If you want to compete with the big boys, you need to up the stakes and put the money on the table. And basically, it all comes down to ISK. And it, imho, should. If you don't have the high end SP characters, you and your alliance can buy it. If you don't have the faction ships you want to field, you can buy it.
If you don't got the pirate implants, you can buy that too. It all comes down to how much commitment you, your team and your alliance has and is willing to put down.
So there you have the ISK. ISK rules EVE. Ofcourse ISK won't help you if you don't got a solid team and a solid battle plan. That can't be bought.
First off, I don't equate "commitment" with ISK, I don't play EVE to make ISK. And saying an alliance isn't "committed" because they don't spend a ton of ISK to win is insulting.
Some alliances don't have access to 0.0 where ISK pours out of moons. Some alliances aren't concerned with making ISK. Some alliances show their commitment in ways that you don't consider.
The Alliance tournament implies nothing more than Alliances fighting in a tournament. Nothing more, nothing less.
Yes, it could be a grand stage for the big name alliances to duke it out in a controlled environment for major PR.
It can also be a grand stage for a small time alliance to take out the big name alliance in a controlled environment for major PR.
Fundamentally this is a tournament of players in spaceships trying to blow each other up. It is much more to some people and much less to others.
I for one will be watching the fights, not the tickers.
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GM Nova
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Posted - 2008.02.27 21:06:00 -
[122]
Unfortunately we can not accept the uncertainty surrounding Red Skull's Tournament participation this close to the event. We are regretfully forced to pull their team out of the tournament and offer the spot to another team.
GM Nova
Senior Game Master
EVE Online Customer Support |
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sakana
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.27 21:21:00 -
[123]
Any takers?
...
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.02.27 22:29:00 -
[124]
Again? Being a woman you should know you always secure the new relationship before terminating the old.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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GM Nova
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Posted - 2008.02.27 22:50:00 -
[125]
A thrice scorned woman doesn't kiss and tell.
GM Nova
Senior Game Master
EVE Online Customer Support |
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Bozse
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.28 01:09:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Constance Noring
The elitist "this isn't what it used to be" argument always pops up in games, usually by the old timers who back in the early days dominated the field, but couldn't cope with the competition when it became accessible to a wider audience.
Can't speak for all games but CS required way more skill back in the day, so ofc skilled players from back then won't like the game beeing changed to accomodate the masses that whine about not beeing able to beat the old skilled players.
Your argument is commonly used by the latter though.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
EVE is designed to be a dark and harsh world
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Guru
Woopatang
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2008.02.28 01:11:00 -
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First gm nova offers us a bribe, then he pulls us out without paying... I suppose you can do that when your a GM...lol A very crooked bunch.. In a way appealing..lol You guys x pirates too?
Mind Over Matter: If I dont mind it dont matter.
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Xornicon Altair
Woopatang
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2008.02.28 01:40:00 -
[128]
Originally by: GM Nova
Unfortunately we can not accept the uncertainty surrounding Red Skull's Tournament participation this close to the event. We are regretfully forced to pull their team out of the tournament and offer the spot to another team.
Originally by: Guru
First gm nova offers us a bribe, then he pulls us out without paying... I suppose you can do that when your a GM...lol A very crooked bunch.. In a way appealing..lol You guys x pirates too?
Yet another example of how CCP is mishandling this event.
TRS was unable to compete primarily due to the hours that our fights were due to occur at. They were very Euro-Centric times, which is fine when you're a Euro-Centric alliance. TRS is NOT Euro-Centric. We are Primarily North American. So, we offer up the position for auction. No bites, so, we then offer it up first come, again, no one took it. GM Nova contacts us and offers us the 1.5b that we wanted to pull out, and we were going to accept. But then the Executor logs in to find out that we've been summarily removed without any compensation.
I hereby propose that the next Alliance Tournament be organized 100% WITHOUT CCP's involvement. I'm okay with their support, but, we, the players, should organize the event so that it works for us. CCP, you've made a great game. Your GMs appear to be curropt, but, that's beside the point here. Simply put, give more power to the PLAYERs to plan and execute events. I will gladly throw my own time into helping to organize the next tournament, so long as it's organized intelligently.
Anyone else who's interested in this, please evemail me and we can discuss this.
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Posted - 2008.02.28 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: Xornicon Altair
GM Nova contacts us and offers us the 1.5b that we wanted to pull out, and we were going to accept.
Wait, wait. GM Nova was actually going to pay you for the slot? Oh dear, imagine what the next tournament signup will look like.
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Guru
Woopatang
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2008.02.28 02:18:00 -
[130]
Well it went sort of like this..
First evemail:
2008.02.26 13:08
Hi Guru.
I am writing this in regards of the post made by your Alliance member on the forums. Is it your intention to withdraw from the tournament? Please answer as soon as possible.
Regards, Nova
Second Evemail:
2008.02.26 21:43
Hey Guru
I am willing to facilitate a takeover of your Tournament Slot for ISK.
Please let me know your plan as soon as possible.
Nova
of which I responded(in a nutshell) sure... we will withdraw send us 1.5 bil.... lol... then we got this:
008.02.27 20:56
Hi Guru.
Unfortunately we can not accept the uncertainty surrounding your Tournament participation. It seems aparent to us that your alliance does not intend to field a team. This has been conveyed publicly, and to us directly by your alliance leadership.
We are thus regretfully forced to pull your team out of the tournament and offer the spot to another team.
Respectfully,
GM Nova
In reality I dont really care.. but it is kind of amusing. I mean 1.5 bil isnt alot of cash and hell if someone else can make it.. good for them... makes it more fun for everyone... but the crookedness of these gms here kind of ruins the fun for everyone at the same time. I think the ironic part of it all is alot of this uncertainty was created by there bribe system to begin with..lol Even if we had a team for those time slots, I dont think I would ever want to be part of such a crooked and poorly run event. Hell I've seen t-ball championships organized better..lol
Mind Over Matter: If I dont mind it dont matter.
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Norwood Franskly
Minmatar
Fleet of the Damned
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.28 02:30:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Bozse
Originally by: Constance Noring
The elitist "this isn't what it used to be" argument always pops up in games, usually by the old timers who back in the early days dominated the field, but couldn't cope with the competition when it became accessible to a wider audience.
Can't speak for all games but CS required way more skill back in the day, so ofc skilled players from back then won't like the game beeing changed to accomodate the masses that whine about not beeing able to beat the old skilled players.
Your argument is commonly used by the latter though.
I'm not sure why you keep arguing about CS, not sure what you mean by 'back in the day', I briefly played counter strike a long time ago now and all I recall is that whoever had the best ping to the server usually won. I was playing UO at the time and a lot of people in my guild were into CS, so I'd say it was late '99 early 2000when i played. The more likely reason for the percieved change in skill requirements is that broadband internet became more affordable for everybody and the "vets" could no longer rely on lag to beat their opponents, I know I hated playing that game over dial up. I haven't played in at least 5 or 6 years though so maybe they did change a major part of it.
Back to Eve though I think Centra Spike summed my thoughts up pretty well, Eve's about fights not about isk, I won't be paying much attention the the alliances fighting, I'd rather see some nice tactics and maybe get some ideas I can use in pvp.
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Bozse
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.28 07:18:00 -
[132]
I'm not sure why you keep arguing about CS, not sure what you mean by 'back in the day', I briefly played counter strike a long time ago now and all I recall is that whoever had the best ping to the server usually won. I was playing UO at the time and a lot of people in my guild were into CS, so I'd say it was late '99 early 2000when i played. The more likely reason for the percieved change in skill requirements is that broadband internet became more affordable for everybody and the "vets" could no longer rely on lag to beat their opponents, I know I hated playing that game over dial up. I haven't played in at least 5 or 6 years though so maybe they did change a major part of it.
I use it as a referance for competative play that has been affected by what i see as degradation due to changes to please the masses, and ping issues isn't the changes im refering to that casued it.
Either way not going to argue about it anymore, CS has nothing to do with it as such it was simply a comparison that i could use as i used to play it, have said what my views are, nothing will really change that view so no point in arguing.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
EVE is designed to be a dark and harsh world
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GM Nova
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Posted - 2008.02.28 09:17:00 -
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Hi Guru
Your director Xornicon Altair sent me an evemail telling me that you had found a team to replace you and that the team was willing to bribe you for it. He asked me to assist in that process. I agreed. Xornicon Altair informed me that you were actively involved and so I assumed you were. It turns out you were not and you thought I was offering you a bribe, which was absolutely not the case. With only two days to go, and no coherent reply from you or Xornicon Altair, we could not accept the situation as it was.
Regards, GM Nova
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Malar
HUN Corp.
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2008.02.28 09:36:00 -
[134]
Edited by: Malar on 28/02/2008 09:42:44
Originally by: GM Nova
Hi Guru
Your director Xornicon Altair sent me an evemail telling me that you had found a team to replace you and that the team was willing to bribe you for it. He asked me to assist in that process. I agreed. Xornicon Altair informed me that you were actively involved and so I assumed you were. It turns out you were not and you thought I was offering you a bribe, which was absolutely not the case. With only two days to go, and no coherent reply from you or Xornicon Altair, we could not accept the situation as it was.
Regards, GM Nova
Sounds fair enough for me.
Originally by: Guru
of which I responded(in a nutshell) sure... we will withdraw send us 1.5 bil.... lol... then we got this:
No offense Guru, but as i saw that she offered her help to you, and you did only show two things:
1) that you do not care.
2) that you are not serious, thus not to be taken seriously.
To think that a GM will bribe ya, then even making a post about how you were screwed over by them is ridiculous.
To be honest.. i do not find this decision to be suprising in lights of what was going on around Red Skull on this board.
Sad that you did not field a team tho.. then again.. it has nothing to do with Nova or the GMs.
Originally by: Guru
I dont think I would ever want to be part of such a crooked and poorly run event.
I know that bashing CCP is the flavor of the month, but of all the people on this board, if there is anyone who has no moral highground to do it, then it is your alliance dude.
Next time, try to actually field a team. Part of the reason this tournament has organization problems is you, with the: "we are out, we are in, we are out, oh wait, we are still in.. oh no we changed out minds, we are out for good" kind of apprach.
So while part of me is grateful for the teams who were unable to organize themselves, as thats how we were able to participate. Another part of me just stands there shocked how people could be so poorly organized, and yet so upset about CCP at the same time.
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GM Nova
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Posted - 2008.02.28 10:18:00 -
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Goonswarm has stepped up to the challenge and will be replacing The Red Skull team. We wish the Goons good luck.
GM Nova
Senior Game Master
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Malar
HUN Corp.
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2008.02.28 10:28:00 -
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Edited by: Malar on 28/02/2008 10:27:44
Oh noes.
/me is allergic to bees. :)
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Taniell
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.02.28 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: GM Nova
Hi Guru
Your director Xornicon Altair sent me an evemail telling me that you had found a team to replace you and that the team was willing to bribe you for it. He asked me to assist in that process. I agreed.
Uh oh. So they found a team to replace them and you agreed? No reserve queuee?
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Djuma Nihilist
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.02.28 12:11:00 -
[138]
Originally by: GM Nova
Hi Guru
Your director Xornicon Altair sent me an evemail telling me that you had found a team to replace you and that the team was willing to bribe you for it. He asked me to assist in that process. I agreed. Xornicon Altair informed me that you were actively involved and so I assumed you were. It turns out you were not and you thought I was offering you a bribe, which was absolutely not the case. With only two days to go, and no coherent reply from you or Xornicon Altair, we could not accept the situation as it was.
Regards, GM Nova
Oh so Goons bribed TRS now i get it.
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Guru
Woopatang
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2008.02.28 14:32:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Malar
Edited by: Malar on 28/02/2008 09:42:44
Originally by: GM Nova
Hi Guru
Your director Xornicon Altair sent me an evemail telling me that you had found a team to replace you and that the team was willing to bribe you for it. He asked me to assist in that process. I agreed. Xornicon Altair informed me that you were actively involved and so I assumed you were. It turns out you were not and you thought I was offering you a bribe, which was absolutely not the case. With only two days to go, and no coherent reply from you or Xornicon Altair, we could not accept the situation as it was.
Regards, GM Nova
Sounds fair enough for me.
Originally by: Guru
of which I responded(in a nutshell) sure... we will withdraw send us 1.5 bil.... lol... then we got this:
No offense Guru, but as i saw that she offered her help to you, and you did only show two things:
1) that you do not care.
2) that you are not serious, thus not to be taken seriously.
To think that a GM will bribe ya, then even making a post about how you were screwed over by them is ridiculous.
To be honest.. i do not find this decision to be suprising in lights of what was going on around Red Skull on this board.
Sad that you did not field a team tho.. then again.. it has nothing to do with Nova or the GMs.
Originally by: Guru
I dont think I would ever want to be part of such a crooked and poorly run event.
I know that bashing CCP is the flavor of the month, but of all the people on this board, if there is anyone who has no moral highground to do it, then it is your alliance dude.
Next time, try to actually field a team. Part of the reason this tournament has organization problems is you, with the: "we are out, we are in, we are out, oh wait, we are still in.. oh no we changed out minds, we are out for good" kind of apprach.
So while part of me is grateful for the teams who were unable to organize themselves, as thats how we were able to participate. Another part of me just stands there shocked how people could be so poorly organized, and yet so upset about CCP at the same time.
Malar,
You may believe what you like.. but this evemail says it all..
Quote:
2008.02.26 21:43
Hey Guru
I am willing to facilitate a takeover of your Tournament Slot for ISK. Please let me know your plan as soon as possible.
Nova
The proof is in the pudding.. obviously offering isk for us to withdraw.. Nuff said...
1. Your right I didnt care..lol It was Trev circus show that created this whole tourny thing to begin with.. im just dealing with the aggrivation right now that I dont really have time for.
2. Not sure where you see I am not serious.. but thats ok too. Not being bothered, and not serious are two different things.
I do want to say I personally have played many mmo's and love the game. GM's like this can ruin this game for many of the people who really enjoy it. The only reason, and I seriously mean the only reason, I even bother posting about this anymore is people who deal with events like this should not be GM's. I could care less about the isk, or winning a tourney for that matter. Eve is one of the few mmo's that have gained players over time because it is very unique, and overall a great game. Id like to continue seeing that trend. CCP bashing is far from what I am trying to accomplish here.. and I will leave this topic at that. You as players can read what was posted, read the evemails, and make your own judgement. In the end hopefully it will stop these GM's, or at least make them think twice, about handling such issues in such an unproffesional manner.
Good luck those who made it into the tourney!! Ill be working :(
Mind Over Matter: If I dont mind it dont matter.
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Malar
HUN Corp.
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2008.02.28 14:54:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Guru
Malar,
You may believe what you like.. but this evemail says it all..
Quote:
2008.02.26 21:43
Hey Guru
I am willing to facilitate a takeover of your Tournament Slot for ISK. Please let me know your plan as soon as possible.
Nova
The proof is in the pudding.. obviously offering isk for us to withdraw.. Nuff said...
Well, i'm not native english myself, but my guess would be, you arent either.
facilitate
Main Entry: fa+cil+i+tate
Function: transitive verb
Date: 1611
: to make easier : help bring about
nuff said?
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Ishamel 1
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.02.28 15:11:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Malar
Originally by: Guru
Malar,
You may believe what you like.. but this evemail says it all..
Quote:
2008.02.26 21:43
Hey Guru
I am willing to facilitate a takeover of your Tournament Slot for ISK. Please let me know your plan as soon as possible.
Nova
The proof is in the pudding.. obviously offering isk for us to withdraw.. Nuff said...
Well, i'm not native english myself, but my guess would be, you arent either.
facilitate
Main Entry: fa+cil+i+tate
Function: transitive verb
Date: 1611
: to make easier : help bring about
nuff said?
What he said. Why you would think a GM wanted to bribe you i really don't know t.b.h
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Amon Fire
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.28 15:33:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Guru
Malar,
You may believe what you like.. but this evemail says it all..
Quote:
2008.02.26 21:43
Hey Guru
I am willing to facilitate a takeover of your Tournament Slot for ISK. Please let me know your plan as soon as possible.
Nova
The proof is in the pudding.. obviously offering isk for us to withdraw.. Nuff said...
It all depends on what slant you view the message with.
To my eye it says this "I am willing to facilitate a takeover of your Tournament Slot for ISK (By another alliance, implied because Nova believed you were in "the know"). Please let me know you plan as soon as possible (What team will be buying your tourney slot).
Now I'm not going to make excuses for Nova, and I think that the tournament so far has been managed rather inconsistently, but I think you're a little over the top here.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.02.28 15:36:00 -
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Isn't posting GM correspondance on the boards still a no-no?
Basically you, Red Skull, messed up, you should've read and understood the rules and protocol first, there was no actual bribing scene to be played and the move you made was a poor bargaining tactic which forced GM Novas hand. You and Nova both need to make sure that next time you have a buyer for whatever you peddle before you label it sold to the public.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Carin K
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.28 17:40:00 -
[144]
Let's hope Goons bring a calculator this time
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Mysdora
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.28 19:50:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Carin K
Let's hope Goons bring a calculator this time
Lol, true that.
Big props to goonies for stepping up for the challenge on such short notice. Could this be a poke in the ribs to certain other teams who were complaining about lack of time to practice?
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Torshin
Icarus' Wings
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.02.28 20:34:00 -
[146]
should have giving E-Fury their spot back.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.02.28 20:35:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Mysdora
Originally by: Carin K
Let's hope Goons bring a calculator this time
Lol, true that.
Big props to goonies for stepping up for the challenge on such short notice. Could this be a poke in the ribs to certain other teams who were complaining about lack of time to practice?
they'll be bring battlehulks
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Kovid
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.02.28 21:25:00 -
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And if they did they would fail again as it's not allowed. You shouldn't have said anything, even if it was a joke. It would have even been more funny to see more consistancy. From last tourney 109, to The Red Skull fiasco, to Failswarm again.
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Guru
Woopatang
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2008.02.29 01:14:00 -
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Edited by: Guru on 29/02/2008 02:17:24
Edit: I have removed all corespondence from my posts.. I did not realize that was against the rules.
I can see how it can be read that way.. but I dont think I read it with a slant either. I would have thought GM Nova learned from the last fiasco where he/she didnt get the info from the right person... and although I do see your point.. that can easily be read another way as GM Nova is privy to our challenges that we have run across since this all started.. Also why would I believe a GM would bribe a team? Why not.. have you guys been a part of eve for any length of time, not everything thing is done on the up and up now..lol.. hell the reserve list itself and how it has been working is even questionable.. either way.. who cares at this point... lets see who kills who. :) I am glad some of those who really wanted in..got in. :)
Mind Over Matter: If I dont mind it dont matter.
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Zenst
Gallente
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2008.02.29 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Guru
Edited by: Guru on 29/02/2008 02:17:24
Edit: I have removed all corespondence from my posts.. I did not realize that was against the rules.
I can see how it can be read that way.. but I dont think I read it with a slant either. I would have thought GM Nova learned from the last fiasco where he/she didnt get the info from the right person... and although I do see your point.. that can easily be read another way as GM Nova is privy to our challenges that we have run across since this all started.. Also why would I believe a GM would bribe a team? Why not.. have you guys been a part of eve for any length of time, not everything thing is done on the up and up now..lol.. hell the reserve list itself and how it has been working is even questionable.. either way.. who cares at this point... lets see who kills who. :) I am glad some of those who really wanted in..got in. :)
Indeed - that and IFNI clearly has no clue about what went on, otherwise he wouldn;t of toned CI and BOB not partaking in the disrespectful arragant manner he did.
IFNI get a clue - unless your GM NOVA then all is clear :(.
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Xorth Adimus
Caldari
Zero Divide
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2008.03.03 22:02:00 -
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Oh.. I wish to add we appologise for letting the Goons in, had we known..
Times where a bit off and we have other commitments in 0.0 as well as the whole 'in or out fiasco'.
Whats wrong with having it later/ at the weekend rather then be available when the GMs are? They don't work late or at weekends? (and is it really working!?)
I was up for the match myself and I think we had enough quality players and ships that could have fielded a better team then the one that replaced us.
Being able add up helps too! -10 points FTL!
Don't feel bad for us though I have to say I had more fun in 0.0 doing real PVP during the Tournament
Xorth
Zero Divide
The Red Skull
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