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Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:11:00 - [1] Edited by: Gamesguy on 28/02/2008 00:12:22 Originally by: SPIONKOP Your responce is flawed in several areas. New players who join the game as miners soon realise that training/saving for the best mining ship is not worth it. Their "end game" is taken away from them so some will not stay in the game for as long. Those new miners that insist on training for and flying hulks will soon lose interest when some ass hole blows them up in 0.7. Cost to agressor maybe 0.01% of his wealth, cost to hulk pilot, maybe everything? You know when I started this game I was introduced to it by by friends who were miners, and our only goal was to mine more an better, albeit in lowsec. Never at one point was anyone's end game goal a hulk. Everyone was a total newbie miner that only wanted to mine but we all wanted different stuff. My eventual goal was an amarr navy apoc, cause I thought it was the baddest motherfcker around. Never did get the navy apoc, by the time I could afford it I knew better. Hulks require so many lvl 5 skills that no way a newbie could possibly fly one. And mining in a battleship is very viable. Quote:* stuff you have clue about There is an old quote, pvpers can mine, but miners can't pvp. Many 0.0 aliances mine/refine/manufacture their own ships, ammo, equipment(less so for t2), etc. The highsec hulk population does nothing for the economy of eve tbqh. If lowend prices rise enough yet hulks keep dying. Then people would mine in covetors and apocs. And perhaps newbies in retreivers and ospreys would have a chance to make a profit instead of having all the ore already stripped from every belt from the horde of 10 acct hulk miners.
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:39:00 - [2] Originally by: Xar Zhun Firstly as someone who had to go to a funeral recently of a friend of 15 years who was blown up by a so called jihadist suicide bomber in Iraq I am on the brink of cancelling both of my accounts over this. Forget what these children are doing, the use of language in local is worthy of a ban CCP you have to either deal with this or lose all credibility with those of us who didnt specifically join EVE to PVP. Get your fingers out of your collective arses and make a decision - and if goonswarm are deemed to be out of order at a minimum BAN the devs who are either complicit in this so called "event" Can I have your stuff?
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:41:00 - [3] Edited by: Gamesguy on 28/02/2008 00:41:09 Originally by: Sar Citashk Excuse me here.. but I would like to say this. Not everyone wants to be a f---ing PvPer. Especially if we are in HIGH-SEC SPACE Too bad, ccp disagrees with you.http://support.eve-online.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=341 Perhaps you should play a different game, one where the developers didnt design as a pvp game.
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:44:00 - [4] Originally by: Xar Bekka Originally by: IlIlIlI lIlIlIl Originally by: Maraa Jayde I knew people who died on 9.11 and also have a family member who was WOUNDED in Iraq in an attack by a brave "jihadi". Oh, I was waiting for this one. I was wounded in Afghanistan. Not "I have a family member". Not "I know a guy". Me. I wear a memorial bracelet of a friend who died in Iraq, a week after I got hit. If he were still alive, he'd probably be setting up warp-ins for me, and laughing at you for being so easily offended. It's just a game, get over yourself. Then you are a disgrace to your uniform Its people like you who have no clue what the word patriotism actually means.
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:45:00 - [5] Originally by: Jason Travers Well I just finished reading the report on GS (Goonswarm) ganking highsec miners. (http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=1810&tid=7) To me it is appalling that it is obviously supported by CCP. I myself will say this. I am a highsecer and I play this game for relaxation and for fun. Allowing these terrorists to dictate CCP policy is showing me the real power behind the game and it is obviously not the people but the will and want of a few corps. It sorely reminds me of the situation with the GMÆs and BoB where they were using there powers to give an unfair advantage to BoB. It appears to me, GS is the new BoB. What they have declared publicly is a greafing of highsec people. They are clearly ôtargeting a select group of peopleö with the intent to force them to move into lowersec space by hindering their enjoyment of the game due to their own want. This is clearly against the EULA of the game. I myself will not hesitate at the first time I am ganked in highsec by GS to liquidate all of my assets and hire as many merc corps as possible to wardec every one in the GS. And yes I do have a substantial amount. Once all the isk is used up I will then quit the game and cancel my 3 accounts (yes I 3box) and I will encourage all the highsec corps and individuals to do the same. We as highsecers make up the majority of the financial assets of CCP as well as the in-game isk. If enough of the highsec people were to just quit the game it will put a financial burden on CCP and possibly force them to chance their policies or close the game down all together. In addition I will also be writing an article to all the PC and MMO magazines and web reviews about eve and the true workings of it and why in my own opinion not a game for others to play. But I will wait to see if CCP continues to support this action or decides to enforce their own policies or if I get GS ganked. Which ever comes first. No one will miss you. For every hulk pilot that quits, 5 joins through steam to mine in ospreys. Dont let the door hit your ass on the way out.
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:52:00 - [6] Originally by: SPIONKOP Originally by: Gamesguy Originally by: Xar Zhun Firstly as someone who had to go to a funeral recently of a friend of 15 years who was blown up by a so called jihadist suicide bomber in Iraq I am on the brink of cancelling both of my accounts over this. Forget what these children are doing, the use of language in local is worthy of a ban CCP you have to either deal with this or lose all credibility with those of us who didnt specifically join EVE to PVP. Get your fingers out of your collective arses and make a decision - and if goonswarm are deemed to be out of order at a minimum BAN the devs who are either complicit in this so called "event" Can I have your stuff? Good god, your an insensitive *****. Please, everyone in this thread has had a friend die in iraq, or 9/11, or whatever, because everyone on the internet always tells the truth amiright? I have a friend in the army over in Iraq right now, and he joked around about this stuff when he came over a few months ago on leave.
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:53:00 - [7] Originally by: AndrewRyan Originally by: Gamesguy No one will miss you. For every hulk pilot that quits, 5 joins through steam to mine in ospreys. Dont let the door hit your ass on the way out. You should read an article on MMORPG called Pursuit of a mythical audience which documented SOE ignoring its existing subscribing player base in the hopes of attracting more new players, we all know how well that served SOE. Any development company would be insane to follow in SOEs footsteps after as that visible disaster sets a firm precedent. The audience ccp wanted is already here, in fact, they're the ones doing the ganking. So.. get a clue before you post.
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:54:00 - [8] Originally by: Jason Travers Well Gamesguy You obviously donÆt have a real clue on life. For every one pilot the quits you say 5 takes their place is a farce. There is no waiting line to join eve therefore it makes no difference in the amount of people who join at any given time. What does make the difference are the accounts that are no longer drawing in money to CCP, which creates a financial burden. Granted my 3 accounts wonÆt have much impact but you multiply that time say 10 thousand. That will make an impact. As well as the other people that will be turned away from trying the game due to poor reviews. Because obviously there are ten thousand hulks in empire getting ganked. Stop trying to pretend this is anything but a drop in the bucket on the scale of things. No one cares if 100 hulk miners quit, so please, by all means, quit.
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:59:00 - [9] Originally by: Xar Zhun Right so we are lying about this...... Just proves the mentality of these kiddies If thats the best youve got then go back to you pit and knock one off over the pantie catalogue. Just make sure your moomieeeee dont catch you Typical insults a 14 year old uses. Go away troll.
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.28 01:01:00 - [10] Edited by: Gamesguy on 28/02/2008 01:01:23 Originally by: AndrewRyan Originally by: Reem Fairchild Eve has non-consensual pvp combat everywhere, including in high-sec, and it's set up that way. High-sec is meant to be safer, not safe. There is nothing wrong if you don't like that. It just means this isn't the right game for you and maybe you should look for one that suits your taste in games better. Non Consensual pvp is one thing but one of the games largest alliances committing coordinated mass suicide ganks is something else entirely, the only thing that you can compare this to was the Privateers and they got nerfed. Dude, its like 50 people from goonswarm, out of over five thousand. Seriously, if goons really wanted to mass suicide gank in highsec, it'd have a much bigger impact than killing a hundred hulks every week. I doubt its coordinated at all, more like just random people doing it because its fun.
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.28 04:56:00 - [11] Originally by: Postlatta Mouseanon Originally by: IlIlIlI lIlIlIl Originally by: Postlatta Mouseanon I'm a 0.0 veteran who had to run back to empire with my tail between my legs Pretty sure I fixed that for you. Let me know if I'm wrong. You're wrong. Post with your main.
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.28 08:30:00 - [12] Originally by: Tom Yurmand Couldn't just the big corps be a bit carebeary and war deck goons and wipe them out? Because they'd rather whine on the forums then actually taking any action.
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.28 10:00:00 - [13] Quote: However, the tritanium price isn't going to rise very far thanks to the shuttle-based price cap. Which means that shifting miners to low-sec/0.0 will inevitably shift the balance of mining capacity from low-end minerals towards high-end ones. Which will end up pushing the price of high-end minerals down, actively discouraging mining in low-sec/0.0 - the exact opposite effect to the one you're trying to create. You'll eventually end up with miners being forced out of the industry completely. The situation in empire won't be what you want either. As soon as the shuttle price cap is hit, it becomes viable for a single character to produce potentially infinite quantities of tritanium without even having to undock and face the suicide squads anymore. The only way new miners will be able to compete with that is to sell at a lower price, meaning that they will not be significantly more profitable than they are at the moment. Shuttle and the other module(forgot what it was) price cap was removed like 2 patches ago, trit prices have come down since then. Oh and the majority of trit comes from loot refine, not mining.
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.29 01:44:00 - [14] Originally by: Chelone Originally by: Gamesguy SWG failed because the devs changed the game completely without consulting the player base Kinda like Ambulation? Ambulation has what to do with ganking hulks?
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.29 08:21:00 - [15] Originally by: Dai Nau Originally by: AndrewRyan Originally by: Dai Nau I have killed more empire hulks than anyone in goonfleet hate on me please I do not hate on you for killing hulks, I don't even hate on you for using the term Jihad, I extremely dislike this glorification of terrorist propaganda and I fear its impact on EVE in general and the appearance if reflects on the EVE community and CCP. allah demands that I take your life with my own ALLAH ACKBAR The Internet is Serious Business!

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