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corElement hirr	Posted - 2008.02.27 21:57:00 - [1] whats the point of missions anymore. Gankers here, wardecs there, suicide here. I mean whats the point of all the hard effort.. you just undock and have a bunch of suicide gankers and wardec people just blow up billions worth of your stuff which YOU earned.. I guess this is the game ccp wants.
Turd Hurdler	Posted - 2008.02.27 22:33:00 - [2] Originally by: corElement whats the point of missions anymore. Gankers here, wardecs there, suicide here. This is just part of the game, nothing new just more people doing it these days probably as more people are playing. Adapt or fail and by whining youre failing. If youre at war dont take out your ·ber missioning ship, take out a pvp ship and kick their ass. If you feel there is a problem with suicide gankers then why not setup a intel network for people in your area to post known gankers then if you see them in local you either dock up or fit for pure tankage and let them suicide their ships for no gain. Most of all please dont whine. Its game mechanics and something you dislike will be something another person does like, CCP cant make everyone happy so players need to just adapt to the situation and get on with things.
Jmanis Catharg Caldari Stickler inc	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:48:00 - [3] Originally by: corElement whats the point of missions anymore. Gankers here, wardecs there, suicide here. I mean whats the point of all the hard effort.. you just undock and have a bunch of suicide gankers and wardec people just blow up billions worth of your stuff which YOU earned.. I guess this is the game ccp wants. You,,,, what,,,, where,,, huh? 2 years of mission running, I really don't know what you're on about. Get out of <insert mission hub here>, find a decent agent and move on.
Big Al The Aftermath	Posted - 2008.02.28 03:48:00 - [4] Risk in high sec? OH NOES.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.02.28 07:52:00 - [5] Originally by: corElement Gankers here, wardecs there, suicide here. I mean whats the point of all the hard effort.. you just undock and have a bunch of suicide gankers and wardec people just blow up billions worth of your stuff which YOU earned.. * don't undock in an expensively fited PvE ship when you have a wardec going ; get a cheap PvP fit instead * don't FLY a ridiculously expensive fit ship in high-concentration areas like Motsu or similar, no matter when * never fly what you can't afford and aren't prepared to lose End of story. 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Neddy Fox	Posted - 2008.02.28 07:54:00 - [6] ^^ This.
Zzackk	Posted - 2008.02.28 11:32:00 - [7] I think you missed many of the points of EVE. To everything there is a counter balance in the game. One of the best things about this game is that you can do whatever you want, but what others do no matter what it is, in some way it will effect you. And one of the best things is that no matter what a player does, there's always something to do about it. That's just life, and EVE. Besides all the best times I've had in this game have usualy had some relation to some kind of pirate activity, be it my own or someone else. Thank you pirates of EVE.
FlameGlow	Posted - 2008.02.28 12:46:00 - [8] It's strange that I'm first to ask but anyway: Can I have your stuff?
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.02.28 13:43:00 - [9] Originally by: FlameGlow It's strange that I'm first to ask but anyway: Can I have your stuff? We assume he just lost it all to a suicide-gank, so there was little point in asking 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.02.28 15:24:00 - [10] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: corElement Gankers here, wardecs there, suicide here. I mean whats the point of all the hard effort.. you just undock and have a bunch of suicide gankers and wardec people just blow up billions worth of your stuff which YOU earned.. * don't undock in an expensively fited PvE ship when you have a wardec going ; get a cheap PvP fit instead * don't FLY a ridiculously expensive fit ship in high-concentration areas like Motsu or similar, no matter when * never fly what you can't afford and aren't prepared to lose End of story. there is even a sticky in the new citizens Q&A detailing stuff like this, written by Akita T aka ^^ this guy ^^ seriously a t2 fit is more than enough for missions. i personally wouldn't go much farther past cn bcu/cn invuln field/cn boost amp. which afaik have all dropped in price since the lp store. though i think the invuln went up a bit.
corElement hirr	Posted - 2008.02.28 16:57:00 - [11] why not just take out those items from the game.
mr bighelmet EnTech Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.02.28 17:08:00 - [12] Originally by: corElement Edited by: corElement on 28/02/2008 17:06:29 why not just take out those items from the game. Becuse some like to use them and protect them well. If i post something smart it represent my corp and alliance all other posts are my feeling/ideas only and do not represnt the rest
corElement hirr	Posted - 2008.02.28 17:30:00 - [13] Unfortunately I made this post cuz everything you guys have posted here, everything was accounted for and it bores me that evena after applying all this, you still have to lose because its a no win situation. I dont understand whats the point of high sec. might aswell make it all low sec. Obviously ccp wants a mission runner to know everything down to the last itty bitty detail to survive in eve. oh wait a forgot, its a "learning curve" Wow some learning curve if all that effort applies to nothing. Caution is pointless when the mechanics work in a pseudolaw against whatever you do.
Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2008.02.28 18:44:00 - [14] Originally by: corElement Unfortunately I made this post cuz everything you guys have posted here, everything was accounted for and it bores me that evena after applying all this, you still have to lose because its a no win situation. I dont understand whats the point of high sec. might aswell make it all low sec. Obviously ccp wants a mission runner to know everything down to the last itty bitty detail to survive in eve. oh wait a forgot, its a "learning curve" Wow some learning curve if all that effort applies to nothing. Caution is pointless when the mechanics work in a pseudolaw against whatever you do. You talk as if you can do everything right, and it still makes no difference. Sometimes you can get really unlucky, but if you're smart you can reduce your problems to a tiny fraction of what they would be otherwise. Because there are always going to be people who aren't smart, who aren't careful, and even who are just plain unluckier than you. If you don't see this, I don't know what game you're playing. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.02.28 18:46:00 - [15] Originally by: corElement Unfortunately I made this post cuz everything you guys have posted here, everything was accounted for and it bores me that evena after applying all this, you still have to lose because its a no win situation. I dont understand whats the point of high sec. might aswell make it all low sec. Obviously ccp wants a mission runner to know everything down to the last itty bitty detail to survive in eve. oh wait a forgot, its a "learning curve" Wow some learning curve if all that effort applies to nothing. Caution is pointless when the mechanics work in a pseudolaw against whatever you do. except learning dont fly what you cant afford to lose is something you should learn on a trial account
Greenbolt Minmatar Un4seen Development	Posted - 2008.02.28 19:12:00 - [16] Im gonna chime in. I still wish that you did not get insurance payout if your ship is destroyed by concord. That wouldnt stop ganks ..and it shouldnt..but it would make them a bit more risk for reward balanced. Right now its too easy for the suicide gankers. ..make it more a risk for them too. Disclaimer. I only use T2 fit ships..nothing I fly is worth the effort of ganking (Tier 1 BS with T2 fittings and T1 rigs. --------------------------------------------------- Scordite -Who was it that said that flying minmatar is kinda like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair while firing an uzi?
Kery Nysell Caldari Nysell Incorporated	Posted - 2008.02.28 19:39:00 - [17] To the OP : can I have some of what you're smoking ? Seriously now, I've been running missions in high sec (by choice, BTW) for three years now ... been wardec'ed a few times ... seen a lot of suicide gankers ... and NEVER lost a ship to those people. When I lost a ship, it was because I did something stupid like afk-traveling while at war, or undocking without a tank fitted ... There are a few simple things to do to avoid loosing "billions worth of your stuff", but you need a couple of functionning brain cells to do those things. <~ sig starts here My Skills
Bartom Dekkar Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.02.28 23:04:00 - [18] Originally by: corElement Unfortunately I made this post cuz everything you guys have posted here, everything was accounted for and it bores me that evena after applying all this, you still have to lose because its a no win situation. I dont understand whats the point of high sec. might aswell make it all low sec. Obviously ccp wants a mission runner to know everything down to the last itty bitty detail to survive in eve. oh wait a forgot, its a "learning curve" Wow some learning curve if all that effort applies to nothing. Caution is pointless when the mechanics work in a pseudolaw against whatever you do. Well, you certainly haven't accounted for everything that was posted here if you are still missioning in "Caldari Core". Get out of Motsu already Seriously, I do a lot of missions and I have never been ganked in high sec. I lost a Raven the other day in low sec, but that was because I was lazy and didn't take any precautions. "Caution is pointless"? Not true. You should try it sometime. Many, many people are echoing these same sentiments. At some point, you have to ask yourself who is wrong, you or everyone else?
Jmanis Catharg Caldari Stickler inc	Posted - 2008.02.29 00:07:00 - [19] I call shenannigans Quote: I dont understand whats the point of high sec. might aswell make it all low sec. Ninja topic to get PvP allowed everywhere It'd certainly explain the OP's lack of ability in effective mission running if he was secretly a PvP'er and had never actually run missions properly.
notaway Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.02.29 01:03:00 - [20] Edited by: notaway on 29/02/2008 01:05:05 War Dec what's a war dec--oh that's right, I never left the npc corp Hey but maybe ccp will get around to the faction war thing.// Move out of the busy hub areas...the only suicide ganks I have seen have been on miners in Abudban asteroid belts and that was quite some time ago and it's adjacent to Rens and close to Amamake
Blue Wraith	Posted - 2008.02.29 18:20:00 - [21] I agree with the sentiment of the OP. I moved away from my preferred mission systems, and sold the faction items I had been accruing long ago due to the bull's eye on me they created. I sacrificed a bit of enjoyment I got from the game so as not to be (as) annoyed by miscreants. But that's what makes the powers-that-be happy. They'd rather you lose what you like about the game than not enjoy what they like ("PVP"). Hi-sec is CCP's garbage dump, but most of Eve's playground. That's my opinion, anyway. I really think CCP should eliminate hi-sec altogether or make it so small as to be unusable on the scale that it currently is. I would finally be able to wash my hands of the game. As it stands, I hate so much about the game, but little of what I hate actually affects my game play (partially because I take precautions), so I just ignore it and continue to go my merry way until the day that it does affect me. "Eve is a ~~PVP~~ griefer's game."

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