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Dez Affinity
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.03.01 02:37:00 -
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What do you do in game besides flying Dramiels (and now Assault Frigates) and sitting in stations? |

KoBapcTBo
Bad Balance Villore Accords
1
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Posted - 2012.03.01 11:46:00 -
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Supported. |

Korvin
Shadow Kingdom Best Alliance
304
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Posted - 2012.03.01 11:54:00 -
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Dez Affinity wrote:What do you do in game besides flying Dramiels (and now Assault Frigates) and sitting in stations? Obviously flying Drakes (and now new tier3 BC)
On a more serious note. I was a leader of a small (600 ppl, 100 average online) 0.0 alliance for few years before Dominion. When the sov system was changed the way it was no more interesting for me, I moved to low sec, but still have a lot of friends in Voodoo, RED, Blodbound - those alliances, that mostly consists of my old ally mates, still helping them in training and some operations.
Most of my time now I pay to the Eve Flight School - the Russian EVE-Uni like structure, commanding fleets there. We have a daily basis fleets there, flying to the random locations, no standings applied, killing everything and showing new players how to act in various fleet formats and situations. We roam everywhere, low-sec, WH, 0.0, depends on a mood and FC preferences.
Occasionally, I do a lot of other things, probably tried every profession possible in EVE during my long playing history. __________________________________ Member of CSM 4&5, your CSM 7 candidate. |

DoraTheExplora Taft
The Management.
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:58:00 -
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I'm voting for you because you're russian. That is all |

Kugler
Section 0 GIP Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.03.02 09:52:00 -
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Supported. |

Vander Zylen
The Solar Queen
1
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Posted - 2012.03.02 13:59:00 -
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Supported |

Winternight Depression
Dead Music VooDoo Technologies
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Posted - 2012.03.03 17:18:00 -
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What do you think about wardec mechanics? |

Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
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Posted - 2012.03.03 18:37:00 -
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Just thought you might like to know that you Vote Matched most highly to my choices. I'm afraid I can't promise you my vote but my fuzzies were warmed by the similarities.
Well done and good luck with the rest of your campaign. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
290
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Posted - 2012.03.03 21:15:00 -
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Korvin wrote:Thank you for your questions. Internet Lawyer wrote:How do you feel about the current state of factional warfare? What I had expected from FW when it was announced is not what I see now. I had expected it to be a roleplaying PVP environment, scripted and managed by CCP stuff, with lots of events, in game history evolution, based on backstories, and players that could participate in the show. The first thing I thought when it was announced was GÇ£Wow, where do they expect to find the stuff to support this?GÇ¥. The answer was trivial, they didnGÇÖt. We god a mix of unfinished wardec system with the unfinished missions system and a rejected prototype of sov warfare system. What I want to ask CCP, is to define the goal that FW should achieve. The way I see it GÇô itGÇÖs a good ground for CCP events, CCP stuff could lead those armies on a pre-made script, having fun (I know, lots of CCPeer want to play EVE), evolving the background history with those players enjoying events.
Do you really think that top-down, formally scripted events have any place in Eve? Surely Eve's entire USP is that events are driven by the players in the sandbox, not by CCP leading the players around FacWar themeparks?
Quote:The main restriction is that those FW events should be limited to FW and game backstories, and have no influence to the rest of the sandbox. ItGÇÖs a tricky thing, considering the butterfly effect, but I believe CCP can manage this.
This, combined with your comments above, is a really troubling statement.
The day one part of Eve is deliberately set aside to "have no influence to the rest of the sandbox" is the day that Eve dies. Eve is explicitly designed (and marketed!) as an environment where everything is interconnected across the whole galaxy, from the depths of sovereign 0.0 and remotest wormhole to the jita 4-4 undock and the lowsec gatecamp. The idea of quarantining specific aspects of the game environment is what I'd expect from a wide eyed newbie who stumbled in here a week ago from TOR, not a long term player and supposedly serious CSM candidate to advocate.
The Butterfly Effect is something to be celebrated and encouraged, not feared and suppressed. ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Korvin
Shadow Kingdom Best Alliance
315
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Posted - 2012.03.04 01:30:00 -
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Winternight Depression wrote:What do you think about wardec mechanics? I think that the wardec system is broken at the moment, players or corporations can easily avoid it by leaving their corp/alliance.
The best way to prevent it in my opinion, is to assign the war not only to the top level (an alliance or a corporation), but to all levels at the same time. So when you wardec an alliance, every unit in it gets a wardec timer - 1 week. If the corporation leaves an alliance - that timer stays, and you still can shoot them. If player leaves the corporation, that timer also stays, so you still can shoot him.
This way no one would avoid war if they deserved it. If you want more safety - stay in NPC corp, and pay 11%. __________________________________ Member of CSM 4&5, your CSM 7 candidate. |
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Korvin
Shadow Kingdom Best Alliance
315
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Posted - 2012.03.04 01:36:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote: The day one part of Eve is deliberately set aside to "have no influence to the rest of the sandbox" is the day that Eve dies.
That means that CCP EVENTS should not influence the rest of a sandbox. Not players, that participates there. When it comes to the roleplaying part of EVE, that activity should be guided, moderated and somehow supported. Otherwise it would be ruined just for fun, as it allways happens. FW can be a good ground for the RP, if CCP would help those, who want to play their roles as a rebel slave ets.
__________________________________ Member of CSM 4&5, your CSM 7 candidate. |

Korvin
Shadow Kingdom Best Alliance
315
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Posted - 2012.03.04 04:11:00 -
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Snowflake Tem wrote:Just thought you might like to know that you Vote Matched most highly to my choices. I'm afraid I can't promise you my vote but my fuzzies were warmed by the similarities. Well done and good luck with the rest of your campaign. Thanks for your kind words. __________________________________ Member of CSM 4&5, your CSM 7 candidate. |

Mikael deLock
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.04 12:31:00 -
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Supported |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
290
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Posted - 2012.03.04 22:13:00 -
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Korvin wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote: The day one part of Eve is deliberately set aside to "have no influence to the rest of the sandbox" is the day that Eve dies.
That means that CCP EVENTS should not influence the rest of a sandbox. Not players, that participates there. When it comes to the roleplaying part of EVE, that activity should be guided, moderated and somehow supported. Otherwise it would be ruined just for fun, as it allways happens. FW can be a good ground for the RP, if CCP would help those, who want to play their roles as a rebel slave ets.
All events in a sandbox should affect the rest of the sandbox, that's the whole point of a sandbox. Roleplayers and Factional Warfare participants don't need special treatment from Big Brother CCP to shield them from the rest of Eve and lead them on their own little quarantined quests, and for you to suggest as much is deeply ignorant and patronising. CVA and Ushra'Khan in their glory days were able to mix it with the big boys in their own right, they didn't get special treatment from CCP, they didn't need 'guided, moderated and somehow supported' hand-holding from GMs and Devs to allow them to play out their roles of theocratic slaveholders or rebellious freedom fighters, they just got on with murdering each other on their own initiative, and because of it they earned their place in the unscripted, player-driven history of Eve.
What Roleplayers and Factional Warfare participants need from CCP are the same things as every other Eve player needs - interesting, rewarding game mechanics (particularly for lowsec, but also for whatever other areas of the game they occupy) which make them enthusiastic to log in and blow each other up. The Butterfly Effect should be encouraged whenever possible, because what makes Eve special is when non-scripted events take on a momentum of their own and spiral away in ways that nobody could have predicted.
For you to suggest otherwise, for you to want to undermine Eve's very nature by making specific corners of the universe immune to ripple effects, makes your viability as a CSM candidate extremely dubious. ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Korvin
Shadow Kingdom Best Alliance
317
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Posted - 2012.03.04 22:20:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote: All events in a sandbox should affect the rest of the sandbox, that's the whole point of a sandbox.
So what your statement is that CCP events based on EVE backstory should affect the rest of the sendbox, including the nullsec sov holding alliances? I don't think thats a good idea.
Or do you stand against any CCP ingame events? __________________________________ Member of CSM 4&5, your CSM 7 candidate. |

StoneDwarf
The Curse of Distant Stars Bright Side of Death
3
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Posted - 2012.03.05 01:54:00 -
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If roleplayers want some action, they may get it always and everywhere. If you are absolutely lazy, you may join RedvBlue or become one of the Goner Monks(that guys even built a temple station somwhere in null sec! at the RA territory). THAT is called ROLEPLAY. Why CCP has to spent their time for what player have to do? CCP still have so much other things to do, they even did not finished boosting minmatarshybrids!
P.S. Supported. |

Korvin
Shadow Kingdom Best Alliance
320
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Posted - 2012.03.05 02:22:00 -
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StoneDwarf wrote:If roleplayers want some action, they may get it always and everywhere. If you are absolutely lazy, you may join RedvBlue or become one of the Goner Monks(that guys even built a temple station somwhere in null sec! at the RA territory). THAT is called ROLEPLAY. Why CCP has to spent their time for what player have to do? CCP still have so much other things to do, they even did not finished boosting minmatarshybrids!
P.S. Supported. Well, first of all, they made a decision to add FW to the game. The second decision they made were the returning of CCP live events.
The obvious thing is, that both decisions CCP already did could be merged in to benefit each other.
And yes, the first players group that would benefit from this are RP crowds. __________________________________ Member of CSM 4&5, your CSM 7 candidate. |

Skye Aurorae
No Bull Ships
193
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Posted - 2012.03.05 07:06:00 -
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Interestingly, based on a mathematical analysis of vote match data, Korvin is indeed a reasonable candidate.
But.... that same data shows me as the most reasonable candidate. Skye Aurora is a 7 year old Girl Who Wants to be on the CSM! Unfortunately, the Lawyers say you have to be 21, so.. Vote for Scott Manley / Skye Aurorae for CSM 7 An Expert in Dealing with Childish Arguments Over Toys. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=68506 |

Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
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Posted - 2012.03.05 14:17:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Korvin wrote:[quote=Scatim Helicon] The day one part of Eve is deliberately set aside to "have no influence to the rest of the sandbox" is the day that Eve dies.
What Roleplayers and Factional Warfare participants need from CCP is not special snowflake treatment, but the same things every other Eve player needs - interesting, rewarding game mechanics (particularly for lowsec, but also for whatever other areas of the game they occupy) which make them enthusiastic to log in and blow each other up. The Butterfly Effect should be encouraged whenever possible, because what makes Eve special is when non-scripted events take on a momentum of their own and spiral away in ways that nobody could have predicted.
kk, I'll bite. If by "special snowflake treatment" you mean preferential nurturing I agree with you completely. My argument always has been that the butterfly effect washes up on the shores of highsec but does not impact significantly upon it. When it does, we're stuck with it in perpetuity. CCP lead rp events suck because the RP dept is under-resourced and lack the tools to develop and iterate story-lines significantly.
I also believe that CSM6, 7 & 8 will not in any way influence CCP to improve the situation because The Mittani's priorities are different. Even if a RP candidate got in they would be sidelined while 'other stuff' got sorted out.
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Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
291
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Posted - 2012.03.05 21:06:00 -
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Korvin wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote: All events in a sandbox should affect the rest of the sandbox, that's the whole point of a sandbox.
So what your statement is that CCP events based on EVE backstory should affect the rest of the sendbox, including the nullsec sov holding alliances? I don't think thats a good idea. Or do you stand against any CCP ingame events? I think that for CCP to make scripted hand-holding events integral to any part of Eve would basically be them throwing in the towel on the idea of the player-driven sandbox. The players write the stories here, not a CCP employee. Irregular or one-off events for specific reasons (to tie-in with some new expansion, or the recent drive to get the CCP staff actually playing eve and experience fleet combat the way the rest of us do, for example) would be acceptable. ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
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Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
291
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Posted - 2012.03.05 21:59:00 -
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Snowflake Tem wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:What Roleplayers and Factional Warfare participants need from CCP is not special snowflake treatment, but the same things every other Eve player needs - interesting, rewarding game mechanics (particularly for lowsec, but also for whatever other areas of the game they occupy) which make them enthusiastic to log in and blow each other up. The Butterfly Effect should be encouraged whenever possible, because what makes Eve special is when non-scripted events take on a momentum of their own and spiral away in ways that nobody could have predicted.
kk, I'll bite. If by "special snowflake treatment" you mean preferential nurturing I agree with you completely. My argument always has been that the butterfly effect washes up on the shores of highsec but does not impact significantly upon it. When it does, we're stuck with it in perpetuity. CCP lead rp events suck because the RP dept is under-resourced and lack the tools to develop and iterate story-lines continually in response to player involvement. If Eve is in good shape, then any 'RP department' is pretty much redundant since the players are busily creating their own narratives and reasons to log in and do things without needing a big brother CCP employee to herd them around. Frankly we as players are always going to be better at generating content than a handful of devs since there's more of us working on it.
Quote:I also believe that CSM6, 7 & 8 will not in any way influence CCP to improve the situation because The Mittani's priorities are different. Even if a RP candidate got in they would be sidelined while 'other stuff' got sorted out. Nobody in CSM6, and in all likelihood nobody in CSM7 either, is going to jump up and down and demand CCP pour large amounts of resources into creating scripted roleplaying events. But instead, they might well support reworking Empire in general, and FacWar in particular, to have content which makes people want to log in and generate their own content. If you want roleplaying in Eve to grow and thrive, you do so by creating an environment where the next CVA or Ushra'Khan can form and develop identities of their own, not by having GMs leading groups of players around on scripted roleplay safaris. ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
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Posted - 2012.03.05 22:29:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Snowflake Tem wrote:
also believe that CSM6, 7 & 8 will not in any way influence CCP to improve the situation because The Mittani's priorities are different. Even if a RP candidate got in they would be sidelined while 'other stuff' got sorted out.
Nobody in CSM6, and in all likelihood nobody in CSM7 either, is going to jump up and down and demand CCP pour large amounts of resources into creating scripted roleplaying events. But instead, they might well support reworking Empire in general, and FacWar in particular, to have content which makes people want to log in and generate their own content. If you want roleplaying in Eve to grow and thrive, you do so by creating an environment where the next CVA or Ushra'Khan can form and develop identities of their own, not by having GMs leading groups of players around on scripted roleplay safaris.
I really can't fault your argument. I just don't think you and The Mittani realise how intimidating your power block is to people who want to be identified with the NPC empires. |

Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
46
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Posted - 2012.03.05 23:29:00 -
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Besides, I'm not ready to cross swords with the Goons. Give me a few years to take the markets from Jita and place it firmly amongst the free worlds of he Federation. Then we can talk about the real cost of the Goon war machine. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
296
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Posted - 2012.03.06 20:14:00 -
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Snowflake Tem wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:Snowflake Tem wrote:
also believe that CSM6, 7 & 8 will not in any way influence CCP to improve the situation because The Mittani's priorities are different. Even if a RP candidate got in they would be sidelined while 'other stuff' got sorted out.
Nobody in CSM6, and in all likelihood nobody in CSM7 either, is going to jump up and down and demand CCP pour large amounts of resources into creating scripted roleplaying events. But instead, they might well support reworking Empire in general, and FacWar in particular, to have content which makes people want to log in and generate their own content. If you want roleplaying in Eve to grow and thrive, you do so by creating an environment where the next CVA or Ushra'Khan can form and develop identities of their own, not by having GMs leading groups of players around on scripted roleplay safaris. I really can't fault your argument. I just don't think you and The Mittani realise how intimidating your power block is to people who want to be identified with the NPC empires.
Here's the thing, which you can either believe or not: what pretty much every Goonswarm member wants, including Mittens, is a healthy game environment with lots of people logging in and doing lots of different things in the sandbox, whether that be 0.0, empire, wormholes, or whatever. That creates content and interest in the game and opportunities for us to go and do fun things (yes, sometimes at the expense of those other people). I'm extremely interested in what Inferno might bring in terms of highsec and lowsec content, not because I spend all that much time in empire, but because of the ripple effects that will spread across the lake into 0.0 and everywhere else as a result.
Virtually none of us have an interest in being roleplayers, but at the same time I'm pretty sure we don't actually gain anything from having all the Eve roleplayers getting frustrated at CCP neglecting them or inflicting bad ideas on them until they unsubscribe and play something else instead. That's why I've jumped into this thread to talk about roleplaying, of all things - because even the people we have no direct interaction with (and who we occasionally make fun) of are part of the sandbox too, and trying to transform one part of it into some GM-led Roleplay Ghetto does no favours to anyone in Eve because it undermines the sandbox environment as a whole. ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Korvin
Shadow Kingdom Best Alliance
327
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Posted - 2012.03.07 00:37:00 -
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It has begun!
The 7th CSM elections are open!
Good luck!
Go, and VOTE! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=440 __________________________________ Member of CSM 4&5, your CSM 7 candidate. |

Sentenel
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.03.07 01:04:00 -
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+1 for Korvin |

cr Timon
Crazy Legion. ILIMSKIX B.K.C
0
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Posted - 2012.03.07 01:11:00 -
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-£-+-¦ -¦-+-+-+-ü -+-¦ -é-¦-¦-Å Korvin. |

Winternight Depression
Dead Music VooDoo Technologies
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Posted - 2012.03.07 01:45:00 -
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+1 Korvin
Good luck |

Lucas Lemberg
CazyKo
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Posted - 2012.03.07 02:47:00 -
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+ 1 |

VangDo
The last Gladiators Bloodbound.
2
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Posted - 2012.03.07 03:33:00 -
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+3 |
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