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Deus Letus	Posted - 2008.02.28 14:15:00 - [1] After noticing all these secure containers littering asteroid fields. A quick fix will be to increase the cargo hold of the containers. As it stands the largest containers hold only 3,900m3 hardly Giant for any self respecting miner. They should be increased to 10,000m3 cargo still deployable from an Industrial and 3 times the size. Tus needing less containers around. A giant secure container can only hold 3 pieces of ice, about 5 minutes of work.
Shintai Gallente Balad Naran Orbital Shipyards	Posted - 2008.02.28 14:17:00 - [2] Oh dont worry. They will soon be gone when the next patch hits. Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry
Rawr Cristina Caldari Cult of Rawr	Posted - 2008.02.28 14:29:00 - [3] They're modular arn't they? Should be able to stick them together for easy management and towing Fight Piracy - Encourage PvP in Lowsec!
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.02.28 14:30:00 - [4] Considering a GSC is about three times the size of my Sigil in space, yet I can fit 2-3 of them inside that ship, I must agree, yes, the containers should be larger. Maybe making all containers 5 times the size or so would not only make them more useful and realistic but also would reduce the need to spam belts with them for secure mining. (and remove ownership from jetcans) -------- Ideas for: Mining Clouds
MellaRinn Gallente Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.02.28 14:37:00 - [5] Originally by: Shintai Oh dont worry. They will soon be gone when the next patch hits. not if they are used consistently (i.e. more than once every month ;-) ) ✖Veto Corp. Officer✖ Click the sig 4 my vids
Barbens Black Lotus Foundation Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.28 14:44:00 - [6] I personally love how a 3000m3 item can magically hold 3900m3...MAGIC I SAY! BaRbEnS
Shintai Gallente Balad Naran Orbital Shipyards	Posted - 2008.02.28 14:46:00 - [7] Originally by: MellaRinn Originally by: Shintai Oh dont worry. They will soon be gone when the next patch hits. not if they are used consistently (i.e. more than once every month ;-) ) Ye, but that should still remove 99 out of 100 cans Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry
Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon	Posted - 2008.02.28 14:50:00 - [8] They're fine.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.02.28 14:56:00 - [9] they are fine, we just need jumbo secure containers
Tchell Dahhn Amarr Deny Reality	Posted - 2008.02.28 15:01:00 - [10] If you're concerned about the size of the containers, why not just use Jetcans? I mean, they're pretty secure, right?
Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon	Posted - 2008.02.28 15:20:00 - [11] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn If you're concerned about the size of the containers, why not just use Jetcans? I mean, they're pretty secure, right? Jetcans should certainly be used more often. They're one of EVE's greatest secrets.
Chooch Chooch	Posted - 2008.02.28 15:21:00 - [12] Jet cans are not secure at all. Any wannabe pirate can hang out in high sec and flip a can looking for combat. Why they think popping a miner counts as a real kill is beyond me. The other option is stiffer penalties or longer kill rights for can flippers. Say 30 day kill right to that individual for the miner and all memebers of their corp. Or CCP can just add a larger secure can.
Tchell Dahhn Amarr Deny Reality	Posted - 2008.02.28 15:27:00 - [13] Originally by: Chooch Chooch Jet cans are not secure at all. Come on, now. Be serious.
LeeLee Zar	Posted - 2008.02.28 15:33:00 - [14] A larger secure container would be great. One that olds as much as a jet can can hold. This way you would be able to fill it up in like 20 mins and then haul it back using your hauler. Having to mine into your cargo hold takes way too long. It would take 2(6mins) cycles to fill ur 8000m3 cargo hold and then 3 mins to dock(warp and lag included), a min to offload the stuff and then another 3 mins to undock. Not including finding the same rocks you were using before u left. Giant cans that live up to their name would be super.
Ryuu Katsu YTiRi Directorate	Posted - 2008.02.28 15:35:00 - [15] Originally by: Barbens I personally love how a 3000m3 item can magically hold 3900m3...MAGIC I SAY! I like to think of it as using containers increases your hold via better stacking/organizing/holding of goods. Kind of like what they do with giant transport ships in our modern would. Instead of simply stacking up all the stuff in a giant cargo hull, everything is compacted into smaller steel containers that are then stacked. ps. Note the "kind of" part of that observation, there are other obvious reasons for use of steel containers today, protection of goods/security/individual/stability during travel/lease of containers, etc. etc. etc.. I am simply using it as a semi-parallel reference to clarify the idea somewhat. ======================== Real men structure tank.
Chony Caldari UNITED STAR SYNDICATE Ka-Tet	Posted - 2008.02.28 15:53:00 - [16] the last thing this game needs is a bigger sec can, it will just make ppl want to use cans more causing more lag
Chooch Chooch	Posted - 2008.02.28 17:11:00 - [17] Originally by: Chony the last thing this game needs is a bigger sec can, it will just make ppl want to use cans more causing more lag Actually it should reduce the lag by miners needing less cans in a system. The 3900m3 fills up too fast and is not worth the haul for 1 can thus causing miners to place a multiple amount of cans.
Drakolus Amarr Dopehead Industries FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.02.28 17:11:00 - [18] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Originally by: Chooch Chooch Jet cans are not secure at all. Come on, now. Be serious. Why do I see some miner screaming in local "WHATS THE PASSWORD?!" as someone approaches his jetcan :)
Alora Venoda Caldari GalTech Giant Space Amoeba	Posted - 2008.02.28 18:14:00 - [19] one of the reasons that GSC are limited to 3900 m3 appears to be related to the size of POS modules... but i really don't think it would be too hard to make a special can that only holds ore and minerals... like a "porto-silo" or something. then it can be 20,000 m3 and hold 25,000 m3 and be great for mining ops. or even stuffing it in a hauler would allow a single can instead of using 6 or 7 GSC. ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ Take away the risk and it would make flying around in space utterly pointless. Take away the flying around part and you make EVE into a space themed spreadsheet application.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Deadly Addiction Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.02.28 18:16:00 - [20] Originally by: Barbens I personally love how a 3000m3 item can magically hold 3900m3...MAGIC I SAY! BaRbEnS Efficiency!
Kai Lei Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.02.28 18:40:00 - [21] The GSC's are fine where they are at. You have to remember that people use GSC's in haulers. You can fit quite a few in industrial/freighter ships so increasing the size of the container without increasing the space it takes up will be a problem. You'll have haulers capable of hauling 80,000 m3 in a transport ship. However if you increase the space it takes up you are also going to hurt the newb haulers that wont have the space to fit one.
Alora Venoda Caldari GalTech Giant Space Amoeba	Posted - 2008.02.28 19:03:00 - [22] Originally by: Kai Lei The GSC's are fine where they are at. You have to remember that people use GSC's in haulers. You can fit quite a few in industrial/freighter ships so increasing the size of the container without increasing the space it takes up will be a problem. You'll have haulers capable of hauling 80,000 m3 in a transport ship. However if you increase the space it takes up you are also going to hurt the newb haulers that wont have the space to fit one. they can make more varieties of cans... and still have the 3000 m3 ones for using with an iteron mark 2, etc. but when you have 12 GSC in one ship it gets ridiculous though. even a 5000 m3 that holds 6500 m3 (same ratio as GSC) would be a great convenience. ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ Take away the risk and it would make flying around in space utterly pointless. Take away the flying around part and you make EVE into a space themed spreadsheet application.
Thenoran Caldari Frontier Economics	Posted - 2008.02.28 19:05:00 - [23] If they only could hold 100m3 more so they could fit 4 blocks of Ice ------------------------ Mining over 4000m3 per cycle...with a Rokh

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