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Tih Ahh
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Posted - 2004.04.06 00:10:00 -
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I'm trying to compile a Minmatar History from the bits of literature scattered here and there. Many of you are more knowledgable in this subject than myself, so I'm hoping to get some help. Please follow the link to go to the discussion in progress. Thanks.
Minmatar.net forum for the work -- minmatar.net - United Minmatar News & Forums |
Hakera
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Posted - 2004.04.06 00:20:00 -
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Edited by: Hakera on 06/04/2004 00:21:04 I have many records of cheifly the history of my tribe but also I do have a contact at the Republic University whom maintains records and may be able to obtain good recounts of our past there.
It is in our past that the key to the future is held. I was once a historian and acheologist before those dreaded times, and it would be a welcome break to once more be able to take up that role if only for a brief rest.
How far back do you seek?
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Ashka Neris
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Posted - 2004.04.06 00:25:00 -
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We would be happy to fill in some gaps on the Raven Clan and their culture, practices and traditions if that would help add flavour to your studies ---------------------------
Proud to be half Brutor http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=69488&page=1R |
Tih Ahh
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Posted - 2004.04.06 00:30:00 -
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Edited by: Tih Ahh on 06/04/2004 00:33:58
Quote: How far back do you seek?
I'd like to go as far back as the colonization of Matar. Anything before that would be a bonus. But I want to start with Matar and how life was for the Minmatar on that planet back when it was unspoiled. -- minmatar.net - United Minmatar News & Forums |
Bhurak
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Posted - 2004.04.08 21:23:00 -
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The colonization of Matar is lost in the mists of time. not even the Empire has records of their arrival on Amarr.
Bhurak Random Miner> Did you how steal my ore, lacked prospects or a bright future the thing you wanted me to take the fight airship to hit you
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Hakera
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Posted - 2004.04.08 21:55:00 -
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Quote: The colonization of Matar is lost in the mists of time. not even the Empire has records of their arrival on Amarr.
To the contrary, the history of colonisation on Matar has been pinpointed quite accuratly to approximatly 15,000 years ago. Ruins of what appear to be one of the first original colonies were unearthed in the northern region of the Eyniletti Plains. The metals used and construction indicate an inital advanced level of technology from study of the metal itself. This collaberates with the Jovian records of the past well. That the ancestors of the Minmatar were once extremely advanced.
The dig is still ongoing as far as I know. I am awaiting a report from Katild Arneigan of the Republic University Archaeology unit. The last I heard they were making exciting discoveries.
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Bhurak
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Posted - 2004.04.08 22:17:00 -
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Still records are lost, what you know are from archealogical digs, not from records. Hence records are lost in the mists of time.
You are disagreeing with me simply for the sake of disagreeing.
Bhurak Random Miner> Did you how steal my ore, lacked prospects or a bright future the thing you wanted me to take the fight airship to hit you
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Hakera
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Posted - 2004.04.08 22:29:00 -
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Quote: Still records are lost, what you know are from archealogical digs, not from records. Hence records are lost in the mists of time.
You are disagreeing with me simply for the sake of disagreeing.
sigh...why do I bother
Tin Ahh has asked for more information on what is known about the beginnings of our people and yes there are records to that end. Many of our stories and evidence found already are beginning to build a better understanding of what happened after the Gate closed. These RECORDS of our past are being gathered by the Republic University. I am sure you can view the evidence yourself in time and see the finding published in the archives.
Feel free to disagree with me as ever Bhurak, I know you will!
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Bhurak
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Posted - 2004.04.08 22:54:00 -
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I disagree with nothing. You are the one trying to shoot holes in more or less everything I say.
As for records existing, oral traditions hardly constitute records as they are unreliable and change with each telling, and no form of media used to record history save stone tablets would have long degraded over 15000 years.
I was simply trying to shorten Tih Ahhs search by helping him cut off about 10,000 years off of his compilation.
Bhurak Random Miner> Did you how steal my ore, lacked prospects or a bright future the thing you wanted me to take the fight airship to hit you
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Tsual
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Posted - 2004.04.09 00:21:00 -
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Edited by: Tsual on 09/04/2004 00:29:44 Best we open an additional thread in the libary forum.
And about knowledge of where Minmatar come a quote from "The Ray of Matar" story:
Quote: The sacred ground was a flat piece of land about quarter of a kilometer on each side. It formed a small stage-like plateau of crystallized rock, formed by the extreme heat caused by the thrusters of a landing space ship. The sacred ground marked the place where one of the huge colonization ships carrying the ancestors of the Minmatars landed thousands of years ago.
On the other hand there are no near to hundret percent correct records and often rather tales until the time about 3 millenias ago (begin of regular communication, trade and rise of Minmatar global culture) and even after these dates many historical sources and texts are lost or only fragments of them survived due to the amarrian invation and conquest. --------------------------------------
Tsual - Miner from faith, frigat junky for life. Ritual of the Qua'nadhar. |
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Tih Ahh
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Posted - 2004.04.09 12:58:00 -
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Historical works can use the many sources available to form a thesis. These sources could be anything from oral traditions to the archaeological to records written during the time period. The work based on these sources will be imperfect, but will increase the body of knowledge and allow for better versions in the future. So, any and all information is valuable to the understanding of the past. -- minmatar.net - United Minmatar News & Forums |
Tyto
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Posted - 2004.04.11 18:56:00 -
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In a nutshell. Hugely successful culture, meets Amarrian Empire, is subjugated and brought to it's knees. Jovians attack Amarr, Minamtar rise up in the confusion. Some Minmatar are free, some are slaves. Some fight for freedom, some don't. All fight each other ad nauseam on Galnet. Rinse and repeat.
"Dulce Bellum Inexpertis"
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Guran Voorde
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Posted - 2004.04.11 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: Guran Voorde on 11/04/2004 19:22:34 Point of order - Amarr attacked the Jove. The Jove defended rather more aggressively and successfully than the tacticians and holders had us believe they would, and in the confusion, the Minmatar rose up.
We are the chosen. We enact God's will. I conclude that attacking the Jovians and getting beaten by them was God's will, and therefore so was the success of the Minmatar rebellion.
For how can you beat God's chosen and win your freedom without the aid of the Divine?
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Tih Ahh
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Posted - 2004.04.14 14:59:00 -
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I compiled a rough draft and placed it here.
A Brief History of the Minmatar People (DRAFT) -- minmatar.net - United Minmatar News & Forums |
Tih Ahh
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Posted - 2004.04.27 23:09:00 -
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In-game version here -- minmatar.net - United Minmatar News & Forums |
Ardor
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Posted - 2004.04.28 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Guran Voorde Edited by: Guran Voorde on 11/04/2004 19:22:34 Point of order - Amarr attacked the Jove. The Jove defended rather more aggressively and successfully than the tacticians and holders had us believe they would, and in the confusion, the Minmatar rose up.
We are the chosen. We enact God's will. I conclude that attacking the Jovians and getting beaten by them was God's will, and therefore so was the success of the Minmatar rebellion.
For how can you beat God's chosen and win your freedom without the aid of the Divine?
True, Heideran attacked the Jove and Khanid. Both times he was defeated. The Minmatar managed to rebel because of the Jovian war.
What about the idea that Heideran wasn't God's chosen Emperor but Khanid was and still is? If you watch the history from this point of view a lot of things become clearer and start to make sense. Of course I know that Amarrians from the Empire disagree with me and a lot call Khanid a traitor. But think about it in a free minute when the inquisition isn't watching you...
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Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2004.04.28 05:09:00 -
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Tia Ahh.
excellent work.
you ordering of events was fantastic :) -----
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Tih Ahh
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Posted - 2004.04.29 02:40:00 -
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Thanks, but I just compiled it from material that was already available, and other people helped with that. So I can't take very much credit. -- minmatar.net - United Minmatar News & Forums |
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