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Donny HoBo Minmatar	Posted - 2008.03.01 21:19:00 - [1] Cousin Jonny has brought to my attention the need for these ships to be balanced. In light of Amarr having the two best battleships and soon three best with the Apoc changes, Minmatar need boosting. What I suggest is +2 turret hard poitns for these ships and a 25% increase to power grid and armour hit points. IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME YOU ARE WRONG! (Cousin Jonny told me that if I say this here it proves that I am absolutely correct and anyone who disagrees is totally wrong.) I am Donny HoBo, Jonny MoJo's more intelligent Minmatar cousin.
Rael Valen	Posted - 2008.03.01 21:30:00 - [2] Is this supposed to be irony? Why on earth do you think the ruppy and cane needs fixing, they are awesome ships (don't know about tempest tho, never flown or fought one... maybe that is an indication it need boosting tho?)
Jonny MoJo Amarr	Posted - 2008.03.01 22:12:00 - [3] Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 01/03/2008 22:13:49 Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 01/03/2008 22:12:33 Originally by: Donny HoBo Cousin Jonny has brought to my attention the need for these ships to be balanced. In light of Amarr having the two best battleships and soon three best with the Apoc changes, Minmatar need boosting. What I suggest is +2 turret hard poitns for these ships and a 25% increase to power grid and armour hit points. IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME YOU ARE WRONG! (Cousin Jonny told me that if I say this here it proves that I am absolutely correct and anyone who disagrees is totally wrong.) I agree. CCP Please REMOVE the 2 Utility slots from temptest and insted add in 2 turrets. Now you need to make sure that the ships still do same DPS, (which is around 500dps for temptest with no damage mods for 6 guns). I suggest to make Temptest guns firstly use more cap than its current amount (which is 0) and then remove a damage bonus and give it a cap reduction bonus. Tempest will have 8 guns insted of 6, but should be fixed so it does not do more DPS than apoc, wich is of same tier. A bit like what you did for amarr. Also repeart for other Minmatar Ships. Thanks. Refresh for next Real life CCP Sig(21 Total)
Dianeces Minmatar Repo Industries	Posted - 2008.03.01 22:12:00 - [4] Originally by: Jonny MoJo Originally by: Donny HoBo Cousin Jonny has brought to my attention the need for these ships to be balanced. In light of Amarr having the two best battleships and soon three best with the Apoc changes, Minmatar need boosting. What I suggest is +2 turret hard poitns for these ships and a 25% increase to power grid and armour hit points. IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME YOU ARE WRONG! (Cousin Jonny told me that if I say this here it proves that I am absolutely correct and anyone who disagrees is totally wrong.) I agree. CCP Please REMOVE the 2 Utility slots from temptest. Now you need to make sure that the ships still do same DPS, (which is around 500dps for temptest with no damage mods). I sugges to make Temptest guns firstly use more cap than its current amount (which is 0) and then remove a damage bonus and give it a cap reduction bonus. A bit like what you did for amarr. Also repeart for other Minmatar Ships. Thanks. ZOMBIE GHOSTS LEAVE THIS PLACE!
Donny HoBo Minmatar	Posted - 2008.03.01 23:02:00 - [5] Edited by: Donny HoBo on 01/03/2008 23:02:29 Originally by: Jonny MoJo Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 01/03/2008 22:13:49 Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 01/03/2008 22:12:33 Originally by: Donny HoBo Cousin Jonny has brought to my attention the need for these ships to be balanced. In light of Amarr having the two best battleships and soon three best with the Apoc changes, Minmatar need boosting. What I suggest is +2 turret hard poitns for these ships and a 25% increase to power grid and armour hit points. IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME YOU ARE WRONG! (Cousin Jonny told me that if I say this here it proves that I am absolutely correct and anyone who disagrees is totally wrong.) I agree. CCP Please REMOVE the 2 Utility slots from temptest and insted add in 2 turrets. Now you need to make sure that the ships still do same DPS, (which is around 500dps for temptest with no damage mods for 6 guns). I suggest to make Temptest guns firstly use more cap than its current amount (which is 0) and then remove a damage bonus and give it a cap reduction bonus. Tempest will have 8 guns insted of 6, but should be fixed so it does not do more DPS than apoc, wich is of same tier. A bit like what you did for amarr. Also repeart for other Minmatar Ships. Thanks. I am afraid cousin you have got your numbers muddled up again. A Tempest does less tha 500 DPS with 3 tech 2 damage mods fitted. Compared to the totally over powered Amarr battleships that can easily put out over 1000 DPS. Adding two turrets slot so that the Tempest can fit eight turrets COMBINED with my PERFECT solution for balancing laser vs projectiles will enable the Tempest to at least come close to performing as well as the uber Amarr battleships. I am Donny HoBo, Jonny MoJo's more intelligent Minmatar cousin.
Pavlinka Minmatar	Posted - 2008.03.01 23:24:00 - [6] Originally by: Donny HoBo What I suggest is +2 turret hard poitns for these ships and a 25% increase to power grid and armour hit points. Hurricane is fine as it is. Rupture might need a bit love but not +2 turrets .... And tempest is broken, everyone know that. But even one turrent will make it again too good in compare to others, whatever, not so much since tank simply sux like hell. Pavlinka & Pavlinecka
Donny HoBo Minmatar	Posted - 2008.03.01 23:40:00 - [7] Originally by: Pavlinka Originally by: Donny HoBo What I suggest is +2 turret hard poitns for these ships and a 25% increase to power grid and armour hit points. Hurricane is fine as it is. Rupture might need a bit love but not +2 turrets .... And tempest is broken, everyone know that. But even one turrent will make it again too good in compare to others, whatever, not so much since tank simply sux like hell. I would be happy with one extra turret slot. However, the way cousin Jonny has taught me I think two would still be preferrable. Dont forget that this is a game. In games the good guys are supposed to win. Minmatar are the good guys and Amarr are the evil empire. In order for the game to be balanced correctly the good guys should have a a slight advantage. The evil baddies already have their over powered lasers and super tanks without the buffs theyre getting soon. Dont even get me started on the imbalance of cap ships! Giving these ships an extra couple of turrets and the grid to fit them (oh yeh and dont forget the armour to counter Amarrs uber tanks) would be a step in the right direction. I am Donny HoBo, Jonny MoJo's more intelligent Minmatar cousin.
arbalesttom Caldari Glauxian Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.01 23:44:00 - [8] Hah, i already love you Donny! Can you plz make sure you set the topics your cousin makes in flames? ktnxbay *Sig* Originally by: Cpt Branko That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners. Originally by: Mitnal Locked, one troll after another. Mitnal, Community Representative
Donny HoBo Minmatar	Posted - 2008.03.01 23:47:00 - [9] Originally by: arbalesttom Hah, i already love you Donny! Can you plz make sure you set the topics your cousin makes in flames? ktnxbay I shall endeavour to save his soul and set him on the path to understanding game balance. However, sadly I fear he may be beyond help. We can but try, I will do my best for the sake of the S&M forum. I am Donny HoBo, Jonny MoJo's more intelligent Minmatar cousin.
arbalesttom Caldari Glauxian Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.01 23:57:00 - [10] Originally by: Donny HoBo Originally by: arbalesttom Hah, i already love you Donny! Can you plz make sure you set the topics your cousin makes in flames? ktnxbay I shall endeavour to save his soul and set him on the path to understanding game balance. However, sadly I fear he may be beyond help. We can but try, I will do my best for the sake of the S&M forum. Thanks, at least i can sleep at night now, not have to worry about mr whine giving the first time nubs in this forum bad/false/fail information! *Sig* Originally by: Cpt Branko That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners. Originally by: Mitnal Locked, one troll after another. Mitnal, Community Representative
benzss Twisted Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.02 00:00:00 - [11] yeah and let's give the myrmidon 125m3 of bandwidth
Tashiell Gao Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.03.02 00:01:00 - [12] Edited by: Tashiell Gao on 02/03/2008 00:02:01 Together, You and Jonny, Can dominate "Ships and Modules" Forum, But i like you much better than your Cousin. edit: /signed Tashiell Gao, Minmatar in-side, RolePlayer.
Donny HoBo Minmatar	Posted - 2008.03.02 00:04:00 - [13] Originally by: benzss yeah and let's give the myrmidon 125m3 of bandwidth Sorry I havent intentionally neglected Gallente and Caldari. As a Minmatar I feel I am better positioned to offer solutions for my race in order to counter Jonny's strange ideas of balance. Obviously if his measures were taken to further over power the Amarrians, it would be necessary to balance/improve your respective races as well as my own. I am Donny HoBo, Jonny MoJo's more intelligent Minmatar cousin.
arbalesttom Caldari Glauxian Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.02 00:11:00 - [14] Originally by: benzss yeah and let's give the myrmidon 125m3 of bandwidth Yeah because the myrm's dps is destroyable and thus its clearly underpowered..! Boost myrm! Also im always wondering why you see alot of geddons as top damage dealers on kills, its clearly lasers are overpowered! Besides that, since i saw a chicken without a head running around my garden, the arbitrator is overpowered! Nerf! And, because 1+3=928.72, the apoc is clearly too good for long therm engagements, it needs to be rebalanced! Last but not least, because my mum told me the moon isnt made out of cheese, amarr has way too good (super)cap ships, nerrff!!! If sense doesnt make sense to you jonny, i hereby showed you with the kind of arguments you always give us, that amarr is overpowered. I OWNED U KTNXBAI *Sig* Originally by: Cpt Branko That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners. Originally by: Mitnal Locked, one troll after another. Mitnal, Community Representative
McDonALTs	Posted - 2008.03.02 00:15:00 - [15] Originally by: arbalesttom Also im always wondering why you see alot of geddons as top damage dealers on kills, its clearly lasers are overpowered! I heard that because Shield usually has around 0% Em resist, and the killmail systems does not take resists into account? You do need 2 RCU II and 1 PDU II to fit a geddon with 7 tach and a mwd, which is over the top to be honest.
Donny HoBo Minmatar	Posted - 2008.03.02 00:18:00 - [16] Originally by: arbalesttom Originally by: benzss yeah and let's give the myrmidon 125m3 of bandwidth Yeah because the myrm's dps is destroyable and thus its clearly underpowered..! Boost myrm! Also im always wondering why you see alot of geddons as top damage dealers on kills, its clearly lasers are overpowered! Besides that, since i saw a chicken without a head running around my garden, the arbitrator is overpowered! Nerf! And, because 1+3=928.72, the apoc is clearly too good for long therm engagements, it needs to be rebalanced! Last but not least, because my mum told me the moon isnt made out of cheese, amarr has way too good (super)cap ships, nerrff!!! If sense doesnt make sense to you jonny, i hereby showed you with the kind of arguments you always give us, that amarr is overpowered. I OWNED U KTNXBAI Please dont mock him. Im sure you're all well aware that he has mental problems. On top of that he was abused as a child. The poor soul needs our help not our judgement/anger. It is sad that your ideas offer more rational thinking than his do. Please everyone, do your best to enlighten my poor cousin on the realities of the game and its balance. If we work together we may actually be able to get him to log in a play so he can try it for real. Even if its just on the test server it would be a start. I am Donny HoBo, Jonny MoJo's more intelligent Minmatar cousin.
arbalesttom Caldari Glauxian Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.02 00:18:00 - [17] Originally by: McDonALTs Originally by: arbalesttom Also im always wondering why you see alot of geddons as top damage dealers on kills, its clearly lasers are overpowered! I heard that because Shield usually has around 0% Em resist, and the killmail systems does not take resists into account? You do need 2 RCU II and 1 PDU II to fit a geddon with 7 tach and a mwd, which is over the top to be honest. Lol you dont have to take the bait, mw whine can do that mkay? *Sig* Originally by: Cpt Branko That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners. Originally by: Mitnal Locked, one troll after another. Mitnal, Community Representative
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.03.02 01:40:00 - [18] don't let jonny near the typhoon compared the mega he'll whine about drone bay size.
Karyuudo Tydraad Caldari Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services	Posted - 2008.03.02 01:43:00 - [19] I like this troll.
Wu Jiun	Posted - 2008.03.02 02:29:00 - [20] When all this mods run around and take the small profanities out of my posts - why in hell can't they just forum ban you and the alts on your accounts? Same for your rÇtarded cousin btw. Ofc this post will get moderated due to forum rules yadda yadda. But with like 4-6 troll posts on the top of the first page all dead stupid like this one its probably better for my health to lose my posting privileges in the first place.
Nasta443	Posted - 2008.03.02 06:38:00 - [21] Originally by: Jonny MoJo CCP Please REMOVE the 2 Utility slots from temptest and insted add in 2 turrets. Now you need to make sure that the ships still do same DPS, (which is around 500dps for temptest with no damage mods for 6 guns). I suggest to make Temptest guns firstly use more cap than its current amount (which is 0) and then remove a damage bonus and give it a cap reduction bonus. Tempest will have 8 guns insted of 6, but should be fixed so it does not do more DPS than apoc, wich is of same tier. I fully support this change. Autocannons and minmatar battleships can't get more crappy than they are so maybe this could work out.
Ghengis Gone	Posted - 2008.03.02 07:26:00 - [22] I didn't think Jonny Mojo was dumb enough to argue with a troll sapecifically created to troll him. Guess I was wrong, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
benzss Twisted Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.02 11:49:00 - [23] Originally by: arbalesttom Originally by: benzss yeah and let's give the myrmidon 125m3 of bandwidth Yeah because the myrm's dps is destroyable and thus its clearly underpowered..! Boost myrm! Also im always wondering why you see alot of geddons as top damage dealers on kills, its clearly lasers are overpowered! Besides that, since i saw a chicken without a head running around my garden, the arbitrator is overpowered! Nerf! And, because 1+3=928.72, the apoc is clearly too good for long therm engagements, it needs to be rebalanced! Last but not least, because my mum told me the moon isnt made out of cheese, amarr has way too good (super)cap ships, nerrff!!! If sense doesnt make sense to you jonny, i hereby showed you with the kind of arguments you always give us, that amarr is overpowered. I OWNED U KTNXBAI oh hi itt i introduce to you the concept of sarcasm
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2008.03.02 13:07:00 - [24] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 02/03/2008 13:08:01 Originally by: Pavlinka But even one turrent will make it again too good in compare to others, whatever, not so much since tank simply sux like hell. T-U-R-R-E-T Besides, stop expecting minnie ships to be as good as the rest on paper, they have never been. Its up to the pilot to try and beat the better ship. --- Its dead, Jim.
arbalesttom Caldari Glauxian Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.02 13:17:00 - [25] Originally by: benzss Originally by: arbalesttom Originally by: benzss yeah and let's give the myrmidon 125m3 of bandwidth Yeah because the myrm's dps is destroyable and thus its clearly underpowered..! Boost myrm! Also im always wondering why you see alot of geddons as top damage dealers on kills, its clearly lasers are overpowered! Besides that, since i saw a chicken without a head running around my garden, the arbitrator is overpowered! Nerf! And, because 1+3=928.72, the apoc is clearly too good for long therm engagements, it needs to be rebalanced! Last but not least, because my mum told me the moon isnt made out of cheese, amarr has way too good (super)cap ships, nerrff!!! If sense doesnt make sense to you jonny, i hereby showed you with the kind of arguments you always give us, that amarr is overpowered. I OWNED U KTNXBAI oh hi itt i introduce to you the concept of sarcasm Wuts sarcasm? Mommy never told me what that is *Sig* Originally by: Cpt Branko That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners. Originally by: Mitnal Locked, one troll after another. Mitnal, Community Representative
Avery Fatwallet	Posted - 2008.03.02 13:25:00 - [26] whole thread is a farce ! hurri ruppie and tempest would clearly need the equivalent of TWELVE turrets to be even remotely useful. we need to counter that fallof damage penalty, you know also if you look at it from an rp perspective, the excess recoil energy of the guns should be converted into capacitor. YES the guns should CREATE cap while firing! i cba to argue, you all know im right. ask eft if you dont believe me.

CCP Mitnal	Posted - 2008.03.02 19:32:00 - [27] Locked Troll. Mitnal, Community Representative EVE Online CCP Games Email/Netfang


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