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Death Mate Death Mates	Posted - 2008.03.03 13:46:00 - [1] Serious question? BOB has been at the same 10 outpost mark for over a month. Has GoonSwarm given up or are they still trying but just being efficiently repelled?
bitters much Nekkid Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.03 13:49:00 - [2] Goons suffered a corp theft and are now without the Rifter BPO ? c/d
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2008.03.03 13:53:00 - [3] its death m8 ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Yorda Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.03 13:53:00 - [4] Originally by: Death Mate Serious question? BOB has been at the same 10 outpost mark for over a month. Has GoonSwarm given up or are they still trying but just being efficiently repelled? I thought there was 150 alliances, 3000000000 people, and 1145% of Eve trying to take delve and not just Goons.
Daveydweeb Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.03 13:53:00 - [5] Somebody missed the DED mails.
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2008.03.03 13:59:00 - [6] I'm sure with the coalitions venues of uber diplomacy, massive membership and legendary logistical skill (all thanks to BOB aparantly) that they will be on these forums talking crap in a thread near you soon.
Death Mate Death Mates	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:01:00 - [7] Anyone want to take a stab at a legitimate, mature answer?
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:02:00 - [8] Originally by: Death Mate Anyone want to take a stab at a legitimate, mature answer? ] I think the forum you are looking for is thataway .
Le Dentiste Res Publica Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:04:00 - [9] Edited by: Le Dentiste on 03/03/2008 14:04:14 woops - nevermind
Death Mate Death Mates	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:04:00 - [10] Originally by: marakor Originally by: Death Mate Anyone want to take a stab at a legitimate, mature answer? ] I think the forum you are looking for is thataway . No, I'll get my answer here; it will just take a moment.
kublai Art of War	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:05:00 - [11] Originally by: Death Mate Edited by: Death Mate on 03/03/2008 14:02:26 Serious question? BOB has been at the same 10 outpost mark for over a month. Has The Coalition given up or are they still trying but just being efficiently repelled? BoB pushed the invaders back, alot of alliances are now slowing down or ending support to tend to personal matters. BoB has tried to retake space but with little luck, that said the only bragging the coalition has been able to pull off lately is that BoB's own offensive isn't going well enough....dining nol much? ------ [Quha]El-Diablito - Quality newbie bashing anno 1998 - Be afraid, for I have no real life what so ever
Death Mate Death Mates	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:06:00 - [12] Edited by: Death Mate on 03/03/2008 14:07:09 Originally by: Le Dentiste Edited by: Le Dentiste on 03/03/2008 14:04:14 Didn't RA left the frontline for increasing theire own profitsss lately? I think you got your answer. See? I figured we would start getting some decent hypothesis. Anyone else?
Tilta GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:06:00 - [13] Originally by: Daveydweeb Somebody missed the DED mails. Timing made me want to say he's a goon alt, but his posting history is just so alien and ungoony. Voting TRI/empire pirate instead. Good things come to those who wait.
Death Mate Death Mates	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:07:00 - [14] Originally by: kublai Originally by: Death Mate Edited by: Death Mate on 03/03/2008 14:02:26 Serious question? BOB has been at the same 10 outpost mark for over a month. Has The Coalition given up or are they still trying but just being efficiently repelled? BoB pushed the invaders back, alot of alliances are now slowing down or ending support to tend to personal matters. BoB has tried to retake space but with little luck, that said the only bragging the coalition has been able to pull off lately is that BoB's own offensive isn't going well enough....dining nol much? Thanks. I think these two posts make sense and seem to be consistent with each other.
Ambre Blanche ICE is Coming to EVE Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:08:00 - [15] Mostly because the Delve's nodes come to an halt as soon as the Alliance and the Coalition try to have some fun
Mozana x13	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:08:00 - [16] Originally by: Yorda I thought there was 150 alliances, 3000000000 people, and 1145% of Eve trying to take delve and not just Goons. Instead of beeing bitter about the fact above, show your real strenght and go for BoB alone.
Tantaria Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:13:00 - [17] Edited by: Tantaria on 03/03/2008 14:13:54 stupid alt
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:14:00 - [18] Originally by: Death Mate Anyone want to take a stab at a legitimate, mature answer? Short answer: because taking systems from an enemy compacted into a small area is not as easy as taking systems when your enemy has to run all over the map to defend themselves. Somewhat longer answer: BoB is dug in well, and digging them out is probably not that easy. Aside from the advantage of Sov 3/4 systems, high mobility through jumpportals and titanbridges and large reserves of ships that BoB enjoys in its homesystems, their main achievement is not crumbling under the pressure, at least until now. The Coalition has much longer supply lines, which may take some time to get up to speed, and some forces seem to have rotated out, at least for a while. The latest fight for QY6 does seem to indicate that the Coalition is not letting BoB take over the initiative. Seeing the numerical advantage the Coalition currently enjoys, it is a viable strategy to just slowly grind BoB down, and give people time to recover isk by rotating them in and out of the combat zone. Of course, the success of this tactic depends on whether people will return to the frontlines after some time off. Then again, I could be completely wrong and its simply because Goons needed to purchase and ship 2 billion metric tons of POS and fuel to their staging points and once that is done they might POS spam Delve to hell and back in a weeks time. Or alternatively, the whole Coalition is bored out of their skulls and only days away from a total morale collapse after which BoB will sweep back into PB, PS, Esoteria and Feyth in the next month as noone shows up to fight them anymore. Also possible
Death Mate Death Mates	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:15:00 - [19] Originally by: Tantaria I dont get why goons posting threads like this with alts. If you wana state that you pos spamed 31 towers in delve do it official and not with an alt :-) As far as the bigest pos spamage I ve ever seen after the spam nerf, wtf, more towers to kill and nodes to die :-) I have nothing to do with nor do I desire to have anything to do with - either corporation. Nothing personal.
Brmble Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:15:00 - [20] Originally by: Mozana Originally by: Yorda I thought there was 150 alliances, 3000000000 people, and 1145% of Eve trying to take delve and not just Goons. Instead of beeing bitter about the fact above, show your real strenght and go for BoB alone. you're irrelevant ~ no not believin in urself ~
Tantaria Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:16:00 - [21] Edited by: Tantaria on 03/03/2008 14:18:43 Stupid forum code, wtf
Death Mate Death Mates	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:18:00 - [22] Originally by: Malachon Draco Originally by: Death Mate Anyone want to take a stab at a legitimate, mature answer? Short answer: because taking systems from an enemy compacted into a small area is not as easy as taking systems when your enemy has to run all over the map to defend themselves. Somewhat longer answer: BoB is dug in well, and digging them out is probably not that easy. Aside from the advantage of Sov 3/4 systems, high mobility through jumpportals and titanbridges and large reserves of ships that BoB enjoys in its homesystems, their main achievement is not crumbling under the pressure, at least until now. The Coalition has much longer supply lines, which may take some time to get up to speed, and some forces seem to have rotated out, at least for a while. The latest fight for QY6 does seem to indicate that the Coalition is not letting BoB take over the initiative. Seeing the numerical advantage the Coalition currently enjoys, it is a viable strategy to just slowly grind BoB down, and give people time to recover isk by rotating them in and out of the combat zone. Of course, the success of this tactic depends on whether people will return to the frontlines after some time off. Then again, I could be completely wrong and its simply because Goons needed to purchase and ship 2 billion metric tons of POS and fuel to their staging points and once that is done they might POS spam Delve to hell and back in a weeks time. Or alternatively, the whole Coalition is bored out of their skulls and only days away from a total morale collapse after which BoB will sweep back into PB, PS, Esoteria and Feyth in the next month as noone shows up to fight them anymore. Also possible All are legimate and mature possibilities - thanks. For the answer, it would take an extreme amount of candid comments by someone in the know from the coalition and diplomatically and strategically that is not likely to happen on this forum, naturally. So, a post like this one is as close as we will likely get to a solid stab at it. Thanks again.
Daylen Drazzi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:27:00 - [23] Dinner has to wait until after first breakfast, second breakfast, lunch, afternoon tea, and supper. "Ya see us Goons neva lose, If we'r dead, we'r dead so nobody cares, If'n we win we'v won, so's only we cares If'n we run away we always come back later so Goons neva lose ya see?"
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:30:00 - [24] I think the simple truth here is that these things take time to do. Nobody is working to a schedule that I'm aware of and for sure not taking NOL first try was a setback. That's probably why you haven't seen any progress but that's just a part of war. You pick yourself up after a defeat and keep on going.
WowZilla The Leeroy Jenkins Project	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:31:00 - [25] Different war than pre-delve. its more a war of attrition than it ever was, ships, willpower, forum prowess....who will last the longest...? But then the coalition has only taken all but one Bob region so it obvously means they are losing..amirite? I give it another 6 months. RSF is prepared to pound away longer i suspect. ______________________ I am the worst poaster
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:41:00 - [26] Well, I just heard a lot of POS were being spammed in Delve, so the next offensive just seems to have started. GL Coalition
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:43:00 - [27] Edited by: Malachon Draco on 03/03/2008 14:43:17 Edited by: Malachon Draco on 03/03/2008 14:43:05 Originally by: Daylen Drazzi "Ya see us Goons neva lose, If we'r dead, we'r dead so nobody cares, If'n we win we'v won, so's only we cares If'n we run away we always come back later so Goons neva lose ya see?" Hehe, quoting Warhammer Orks ftw My personal favorite is:"casualties are acceptable at 97%" from a White Dwarf acticle on WH40K
Terror Rising Death Of Fallen Angels	Posted - 2008.03.03 14:53:00 - [28] Edited by: Terror Rising on 03/03/2008 14:53:42 Serious Answer arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shinori GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.03.03 15:04:00 - [29] second breakfast?
Malaphar Amarr W33D Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.03 15:17:00 - [30] My estimation , after checking the current side-events and based om my own interpretation and some talks with various people from various factions involved (geez , that took some time to write...) , is that BoB will be able to lauch full scale attacks on Tortuga , and especially MC , in 2-4 weeks time. I think BoB needs at least 1-2 weeks to completely remove Coalition presence from Delve...maybe sooner if RAZOR / Pandemic Legion relocate their interests elsewhere very soon. I personally do not think the last attacks from BoB on QY6 are the actual main offensive plan to "re-invade" QY6 (main reason to say this would be lack of Capital support for the engaging fleets even with cyno-jammer absent). Of course , all I said is only my PERSONAL impression and only time will tell if any of us stating such things is wrong or right. Fly safe everyone! Quote: Meet the best , die like the rest!
Yorda Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.03 15:23:00 - [31] Originally by: Malaphar My estimation , after checking the current side-events and based om my own interpretation and some talks with various people from various factions involved (geez , that took some time to write...) , is that BoB will be able to lauch full scale attacks on Tortuga , and especially MC , in 2-4 weeks time. I think BoB needs at least 1-2 weeks to completely remove Coalition presence from Delve...maybe sooner if RAZOR / Pandemic Legion relocate their interests elsewhere very soon. I personally do not think the last attacks from BoB on QY6 are the actual main offensive plan to "re-invade" QY6 (main reason to say this would be lack of Capital support for the engaging fleets even with cyno-jammer absent). Of course , all I said is only my PERSONAL impression and only time will tell if any of us stating such things is wrong or right. Fly safe everyone! Oh hey look a smash post. You couldn't be more wrong.
Darken Rhall Amarr Rift.	Posted - 2008.03.03 15:24:00 - [32] Originally by: Malaphar My estimation , after checking the current side-events and based om my own interpretation and some talks with various people from various factions involved (geez , that took some time to write...) , is that BoB will be able to lauch full scale attacks on Tortuga , and especially MC , in 2-4 weeks time. I think BoB needs at least 1-2 weeks to completely remove Coalition presence from Delve...maybe sooner if RAZOR / Pandemic Legion relocate their interests elsewhere very soon. I personally do not think the last attacks from BoB on QY6 are the actual main offensive plan to "re-invade" QY6 (main reason to say this would be lack of Capital support for the engaging fleets even with cyno-jammer absent). Of course , all I said is only my PERSONAL impression and only time will tell if any of us stating such things is wrong or right. Fly safe everyone! Really, you have no idea...
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.03 15:27:00 - [33] Originally by: Malaphar My estimation , after checking the current side-events and based om my own interpretation and some talks with various people from various factions involved (geez , that took some time to write...) , is that BoB will be able to lauch full scale attacks on Tortuga , and especially MC , in 2-4 weeks time. I think BoB needs at least 1-2 weeks to completely remove Coalition presence from Delve...maybe sooner if RAZOR / Pandemic Legion relocate their interests elsewhere very soon. / 5 --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
Death Mate Death Mates	Posted - 2008.03.03 15:28:00 - [34] Edited by: Death Mate on 03/03/2008 15:34:11 These are just educated guesses from players on either side, guys. Let's not point and counter-point directly to each other as we are just trying to uncover the thoughts from both sides of the fence as to their interpretation of the current state of the union. So far, everyone has done a good job through this point.
Dog Solitude Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.03.03 16:17:00 - [35] Originally by: Malaphar My estimation , after checking the current side-events and based om my own interpretation and some talks with various people from various factions involved (geez , that took some time to write...) , is that BoB will be able to lauch full scale attacks on Tortuga , and especially MC , in 2-4 weeks time. I think BoB needs at least 1-2 weeks to completely remove Coalition presence from Delve...maybe sooner if RAZOR / Pandemic Legion relocate their interests elsewhere very soon. I personally do not think the last attacks from BoB on QY6 are the actual main offensive plan to "re-invade" QY6 (main reason to say this would be lack of Capital support for the engaging fleets even with cyno-jammer absent). Of course , all I said is only my PERSONAL impression and only time will tell if any of us stating such things is wrong or right. Fly safe everyone! Ok even I'm gonna lol at that one. I am sure longer supply lines plays a part in the slow on the coalitions part. But its also impressive they managed to throw off the attack on qy6 so they are obviously still dedicated to the cause. The coalition has, by no means, fallen apart. With more solid help from the new members such as MC, they are still a formidable force. I look forward to more fighting!
Darken Rhall Amarr Rift.	Posted - 2008.03.03 16:32:00 - [36] Originally by: Dog Solitude Originally by: Malaphar My estimation , after checking the current side-events and based om my own interpretation and some talks with various people from various factions involved (geez , that took some time to write...) , is that BoB will be able to lauch full scale attacks on Tortuga , and especially MC , in 2-4 weeks time. I think BoB needs at least 1-2 weeks to completely remove Coalition presence from Delve...maybe sooner if RAZOR / Pandemic Legion relocate their interests elsewhere very soon. I personally do not think the last attacks from BoB on QY6 are the actual main offensive plan to "re-invade" QY6 (main reason to say this would be lack of Capital support for the engaging fleets even with cyno-jammer absent). Of course , all I said is only my PERSONAL impression and only time will tell if any of us stating such things is wrong or right. Fly safe everyone! Ok even I'm gonna lol at that one. I am sure longer supply lines plays a part in the slow on the coalitions part. But its also impressive they managed to throw off the attack on qy6 so they are obviously still dedicated to the cause. The coalition has, by no means, fallen apart. With more solid help from the new members such as MC, they are still a formidable force. I look forward to more fighting! I think the fact that the coalition also hit multilpe systems last night and will take control of numerous station systems in the next few days will help also...
Entrpreneur Deteis	Posted - 2008.03.03 16:45:00 - [37] Originally by: Malaphar My estimation , after checking the current side-events and based om my own interpretation and some talks with various people from various factions involved (geez , that took some time to write...) , is that BoB will be able to lauch full scale attacks on Tortuga , and especially MC , in 2-4 weeks time. I think BoB needs at least 1-2 weeks to completely remove Coalition presence from Delve...maybe sooner if RAZOR / Pandemic Legion relocate their interests elsewhere very soon. I personally do not think the last attacks from BoB on QY6 are the actual main offensive plan to "re-invade" QY6 (main reason to say this would be lack of Capital support for the engaging fleets even with cyno-jammer absent). Of course , all I said is only my PERSONAL impression and only time will tell if any of us stating such things is wrong or right. Fly safe everyone! LOL you really have no idea what is happening there BOB assault on QY6 was not for to get the system and station back its for not to let Sov 3 come which will come in this week and this means the jump bridges and cyno jammers will be online there and BOB will lost its chance to Cap blob the system. Have Fun on your guesses but next time dont let it go like a fart in the ass :)
TWD Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.03 17:30:00 - [38] Tbh, the coalition is performing pretty poorly considering they have around 9x the amount of characters than we have on our side.
Glenda Giggles Red Ballz	Posted - 2008.03.03 17:32:00 - [39] Edited by: Glenda Giggles on 03/03/2008 17:35:35 Agreed, the war has slowed down to a crawl for several reasons. BoB forces are now a much smaller area so that itÆs much easier for them to move from 1 point to another to defend and spam fighters at a POS or gate so that an attacker gets killed by lag. BoB made an attempt to reclaim the lost stations in Delve and found that in doing so that they got trounced by a Goon / MC and their various friendly alliances. So attempts to push back Goon & MC have failed. In the case of both groups they are attempting to cut off the others supply lines. In the case of both groups attempts to Invade recently resulted in trapped and slaughtered pilots. So what you are looking at now is a war of attrition. BTW - TWD any Invading force will not have all its pilots on the front line, they sort of can't. Plus not all the forces that have BoB "Red" are on the front line with a major force.
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.03 17:47:00 - [40] Originally by: TWD Tbh, the coalition is performing pretty poorly considering they have around 9x the amount of characters than we have on our side. change coalition to servers and I'll agree with you
fugazii Anger Management	Posted - 2008.03.03 17:49:00 - [41] Originally by: Glenda Giggles BoB forces are now a much smaller area so that itÆs much easier for them to move from 1 point to another to defend and spam fighters at a POS or gate so that an attacker gets killed by lag. Yes, its definitely bob and their 200 man fleet creating the lag, it has Nothing to do with coalition and them roaming around with fleets 2x's the size. Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Yorda Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.03 17:51:00 - [42] Edited by: Yorda on 03/03/2008 17:51:11 Originally by: fugazii Originally by: Glenda Giggles BoB forces are now a much smaller area so that it’s much easier for them to move from 1 point to another to defend and spam fighters at a POS or gate so that an attacker gets killed by lag. Yes, its definitely bob and their 200 man fleet creating the lag, it has Nothing to do with coalition and them roaming around with fleets 2x's the size. I'm glad we agree on something Mr. Bob alt.
Glenda Giggles Red Ballz	Posted - 2008.03.03 18:01:00 - [43] fugazii - Also, the other day when BoB was facing a Goon fleet of near equal numbers in BoB space rather then engaging they opted to leave for Bruce & Low sec. So with BoB friendly forces going attacking MC, Bruce & Goon you should expect that there are at least a few fleets of size that BoB might engage.
Marko Zhang Destructive Flatulence	Posted - 2008.03.03 18:02:00 - [44] Originally by: Entrpreneur Deteis let it go like a fart in the ass :) This. --- THE WOUNDED TIGER IS DE TIGER BEFORE IT IS WOUNDED
Dangerously Cheesey GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.03 18:26:00 - [45] Originally by: TWD Tbh, the coalition is performing pretty poorly considering they have around 9x the amount of characters than we have on our side. Now if we could just fit those 9x number of characters into a fight... Playable fleet fights cap out at under 300.
MarthaStuart aaaaaaaaaaah an alt	Posted - 2008.03.03 20:47:00 - [46] Global Warming
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2008.03.03 20:57:00 - [47] Originally by: Dangerously Cheesey Originally by: TWD Tbh, the coalition is performing pretty poorly considering they have around 9x the amount of characters than we have on our side. Now if we could just fit those 9x number of characters into a fight... Playable fleet fights cap out at under 300. Have you considered doing what you did in all the previous cyno jammed systems you took of them?.
Desiderata Fabian GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.03 21:01:00 - [48] Originally by: Daylen Drazzi Dinner has to wait until after first breakfast, second breakfast, lunch, afternoon tea, and supper. It is like bombing Cambodia all over again.
Twoside Gallente Seven. Enuma Elish.	Posted - 2008.03.03 21:02:00 - [49] Originally by: marakor I'm sure with the coalitions venues of uber diplomacy, massive membership and legendary logistical skill (all thanks to BOB aparantly) that they will be on these forums talking crap in a thread near you soon. MLYP :)

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