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Etumretniw Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:16:00 - [1] Edited by: Etumretniw on 05/03/2008 19:16:15 Evening. Just wanted to get peoples opinion on this. Today there where 2 or 3 guys in sebiestor corpchat speaking to each other in some foreign language, russian, I believe, not that it matters. IMO, in public channels, you stick to english, so I asked the guys to please create their own channel. However not many people seemed to agree with me, and some guy said I was rude to ask them to leave. So, fellow Eve-players, what do you think, am I the one at fault here, or the russian guys who refused to leave? And what do the rules really say? I know that we are supposed to speak english on the forums, but what about ingame?
mothermoon2	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:17:00 - [2] Edited by: mothermoon2 on 05/03/2008 19:17:06 all but elvish. and try not to speak kinglon.
Falcon Troy Caldari Awesome People Secret Corp	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:19:00 - [3] This game is international. Maybe you should learn some other languages instead of being a bigot. _____________ Hai.
Saint Lazarus DROW Org Brotherhood of the Spider	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:21:00 - [4] Far as I know only reason you HAVE to speak English on forums is because of the need to moderate and lack of foreign speaking mods to do it. EvE isnt JUST for English speaking people, not allowing people to speak their language in public is basically sayin you dont want them in game =p Besides if you dont like it block them, why dont people learn to use this wonderous tool more it baffles me! Please resize signature to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Billy Sastard Amarr Life. Universe. Everything.	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:21:00 - [5] I think the only channel that is restricted to english is the help channel. All others are open to any language you want to communicate in. -=^=-
Anaalys Fluuterby Caldari	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:23:00 - [6] Perfect reason the "Ignore" button exists Originally by: Audri Fisher On the other, the emo tears being cryed in this thread tell me that just because you shoot somebody for a living, does not mean you aren't a carebear
Etumretniw Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:27:00 - [7] Hm. Seems pretty unanimous. I guess I'm the one who's wrong, then. I hereby promise to cease all language related complaints henceforth. wanders off to corpchat to speak some swedish
Esmenet Gallente	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:34:00 - [8] Imo you are rude if you speak in other languages than english in public channels. And english is not my first language. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
Juliux Novi Amarr Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate The Omni Federation	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:34:00 - [9] Originally by: Etumretniw Edited by: Etumretniw on 05/03/2008 19:16:15 Evening. Just wanted to get peoples opinion on this. Today there where 2 or 3 guys in sebiestor corpchat speaking to each other in some foreign language, russian, I believe, not that it matters. IMO, in public channels, you stick to english, so I asked the guys to please create their own channel. However not many people seemed to agree with me, and some guy said I was rude to ask them to leave. So, fellow Eve-players, what do you think, am I the one at fault here, or the russian guys who refused to leave? And what do the rules really say? I know that we are supposed to speak english on the forums, but what about ingame? I am embarrassed for you. __________________________________________ Juliux Novi Director, Corporate Security and Operations Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate
Marahk T'or Hand Of Muritor	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:41:00 - [10] Both are in the wrong. You should have all been speaking Sebiestor. Seriously, nothing wrong with other languages in public channels. (You might even look a bit odd sticking to English in the German channel) _______ The fire burns bright!
The Geoman Gallente Anarchos Industrial Cooperative	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:44:00 - [11] My understanding has been that not even half of the player base is from North America, so you really should expect to hear languages other than English in the game. And you should be grateful that others are speaking English when they do.
Tellenta Gallente White-Noise	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:45:00 - [12] Ban all Russians to be honest. They use algebraic symbols in their alphabet and thats just not right. As a humble english speaking American who's foreign language skills have deteriorated due to lack of use seeing someone speak german in local gives me a nice challenge to see if I can remember some of my lost vocabulary. Typically I fail, its been 12 years since I had a solid handle on the language :( So OP wants to force a world wide MMORPG that has all subscribers on one server to all be forced to speak english? Welcome to the real world, no it doesn't care that you don't understand.
Taedrin Gallente Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:52:00 - [13] Originally by: Falcon Troy This game is international. Maybe you should learn some other languages instead of being a bigot. This hardly makes him a bigot. Keep away from the personal attacks and tell him a straightforward, and polite answer. That answer being that he was, in fact, in the wrong in assuming that EVE was an english only game. People are free to type in whatever language they want, as EVE is an international game with an international audience. This is part of EVE's charm, IMO.
LaughingManic	Posted - 2008.03.05 20:58:00 - [14] If the majority of the people in the game didn't speak english and I wanted to have a chat with my english speaking friends I would set up a separate channel. Why? because if they can't read what I'm writing then it is of no relevance to them and may as well be spam as it's clogging up the channel that they may be trying to use for communicating with corp mates. Hence I feel the opposite should apply, the majority of people I meet ingame speak english therefore if you want to speak a language other than english please set up a separate channel, because all you are doing is clogging up the corp channel for the majority of players.
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.03.05 21:09:00 - [15] Originally by: The Geoman My understanding has been that not even half of the player base is from North America, so you really should expect to hear languages other than English in the game. And you should be grateful that others are speaking English when they do. So English is only a native language in North America? That's news to me. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
gfldex Kabelkopp	Posted - 2008.03.05 21:11:00 - [16] Originally by: Etumretniw Hm. Seems pretty unanimous. I guess I'm the one who's wrong, then. I hereby promise to cease all language related complaints henceforth. wanders off to corpchat to speak some swedish I would not step back on this for two reasons. If you look at common social behaviour you will see quite often that foreign speakers lower their voice if they speak in their own toung if they happen to be in a crowd of native speakers. The idea is simply that you don't wont to annoy ppl with stuff they can't understand. Further you will see a lot ppl disagree with french ppl starting to speak french in a non-french envirounment. It is seen as arrogant by pretty much anybody. If you ask french how they see this (I did) they will most likely agree too. Now imagine what would happen if anybody would start to write his language in public channels like the noob corp chat. It would be truely babylon and quite hart to understand anything at all. You are further not allowed to insult ppl in chats. A nightmare for GMs if anybody would use his native language. And keep in mind that CCP don't came up with that rule by themself. They have to obey to national law of the country where they want to sell their products. And insulting ppl is a crime anywhere in the world. There are a lot reason to stick with one common language in public chats. The excuse your english sucks is just that, an excuse. English is not a hard language to learn and anybody can and should have at least some knowledge in that field. EVE is indeed an international game and the language of choice is not french nor russian, it is english. Heck, even chinese learn english and they are the majority. Asking _politely_ to stick with english in a public channel is for sure nothing wrong. -- There are countless games in the world. There are at least as many ppl that dont like one or more rules of said games. That never stopped smart game designers from creating good games.
Tellenta Gallente White-Noise	Posted - 2008.03.05 21:28:00 - [17] Edited by: Tellenta on 05/03/2008 21:29:15 Originally by: F'nog Originally by: The Geoman My understanding has been that not even half of the player base is from North America, so you really should expect to hear languages other than English in the game. And you should be grateful that others are speaking English when they do. So English is only a native language in North America? That's news to me. Oddly enough the United States doesn't have an official language. Every once in a while you get to see a congressman ramble about making it the official language but it never goes through. Then of course there are the French Canadians. Rumor has it the UK speaks english, but thats sometimes up to debate.
Sgt Blade An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three	Posted - 2008.03.05 21:32:00 - [18] Originally by: gfldex Originally by: Etumretniw Hm. Seems pretty unanimous. I guess I'm the one who's wrong, then. I hereby promise to cease all language related complaints henceforth. wanders off to corpchat to speak some swedish I would not step back on this for two reasons. If you look at common social behaviour you will see quite often that foreign speakers lower their voice if they speak in their own toung if they happen to be in a crowd of native speakers. The idea is simply that you don't wont to annoy ppl with stuff they can't understand. imo i dont think that works, for the simple fact that it may seem that foreign speakers lower their voices but actually that may be how most people english or not talk like in public, you only really notice because them being forign, stand out more therefor you notice that they speak faily quietly but if you actually listen properly on a bus or out shopping for example many english people also speak quietly/lower their voices. it only seems like foriegn people talk quietly is because they stand out as something you dont understand if people lower their voices in public because they want to talk in their native tongue then i personally think that they are ashamed of who they are and what their heritage is. people have the right to speak their own language to each other if they want to in public channels unless a gm specificallly tells them utherwise so he can understand/stop harassment etc etc Hypnotic Pelvic Thrusting Level 5
syphurous Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.03.05 21:39:00 - [19] Living in an NPC corp all my life I can tell you a few things about people speaking languages other than English. Most are asking if anyone speaks their language, if there's anyone from their country there, and otherwise 99% it for help which they aren't going to get when they are in a channel that speaks english. I was told that the NPC corp channels are english speaking, if you need to converse in another language there is private channels, and a tonne of language channels. The reasoning was that if there was conflict in the channel it would be easier for a GM to sort it out because an english speaking GM would be the one solving issues. The other language channels would have GM's that speak those languages in charge of moderation. Originally by: GM Faolchu People salvaging your missions npcs or the player you just blew up are doing nothing wrong.
Sonva Lat	Posted - 2008.03.05 21:40:00 - [20] I'm pretty sure the position used to be English in public channels, to both aid communication, and to make spotting offensive language easier when required. I don't know if it was ever an official policy, but it was certainly how things worked.
Sgt Blade An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three	Posted - 2008.03.05 21:46:00 - [21] also mention english IS a hard language to learn because the language is a smash up of lots of different languages making one messed up concoction of weird rules and pronunciation Latin based(french,spanish),Germanic,Norse are all mixed into 'english' Hypnotic Pelvic Thrusting Level 5
Kyra Felann Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2008.03.05 22:14:00 - [22] Originally by: Falcon Troy This game is international. Maybe you should learn some other languages instead of being a bigot. Maybe you should get off your high horse instead of being such a moron.
Kyra Felann Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2008.03.05 22:19:00 - [23] I seem to remember that the newbie help channel is officially English-only, but I don't know of any such policy on other channels. I know it annoys me when two people have a big conversation in some language that most people in the channel don't understand instead of just taking it to a private conversation, but if there is no policy against it, I don't see what you can do about it and if you bring it up, you'll probably get the "politically correct" police whining and calling you names as you saw.
Shar'Tuk TheHated	Posted - 2008.03.05 22:36:00 - [24] If it bugs you just block them. Why shouldnt they be able to speak any language they want to? DRINK RUM It fights scurvy & boosts morale! THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES!
Kathryn Dougans B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm	Posted - 2008.03.05 22:37:00 - [25] Here's a thing. One of the areas that I am in seemingly has a low amount of English speakers (or typists). The people that talk in local are (according to their bios), Ukrainians, Poles, Finns, Romanians and Germans. A high proportion of the advert cans are also written in non-English languages. Interesting, isn't it? Yet less than 10 jumps away, everything is in English.
Nyabinghi Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.03.05 23:01:00 - [26] I always thought that the EVE browser should have a Babelfish link for use in-game. Might get people talking (albeit poorly) more. P.S. "Die" in German can mean "the, that, which, who, or whom in English" ***
Val Vympel Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.03.05 23:11:00 - [27] Originally by: The Geoman My understanding has been that not even half of the player base is from North America, so you really should expect to hear languages other than English in the game. And you should be grateful that others are speaking English when they do. Ummm? last time I checked The United Kingdom,Australia and New Zealand are English speaking countries... Wait one min..consulting my globe.. Yep!...not one of those places are in North America. And FYI...more than HALF of the playerbase is comprised of people who live in English speaking countries. Please..think before you speak...whatever the language. Cheers
Siresa Talesi	Posted - 2008.03.05 23:15:00 - [28] Well, I'm a native English speaker, but do have some ability in a few foreign languages, and have spent considerable time in countries where English is not the primary language and is rarely spoken. Based on my experience, I have a couple of points. 1. When speaking your native language (or any other language) when it is not understood by those around you, it is frequently the practice to lower your voices, or step aside, etc. This has absolutely nothing to do with "being ashamed of your heritage," it's a matter of respect and courtesy for others. In most cultures, it's considered rude to carry on a conversation in front of them if they can't understand it, as you are essentially cutting them out and ignoring them. 2. English is the international trade language for a reason. It is widely spoken in the world (not just North America btw), especially in business. Having a single common language to use facilitates commerce and makes a world market possible. This common use has transcended the business world and spread into areas of entertainment, etc. Hence it is typically the language of choice in online game envirionments such as EVE where players are gathered from around the world. Add in the fact of how much of EVE revolves around business and trade in a simulated economy, and English makes even more sense as a mode of communication. Is there a specific CCP policy on what languages can be spoken in public channels? I don't know. But based on these points and others, there are plenty of good reasons why English should largely be the language of choice in EVE. And don't go making the mistake of thinking that it's all about the "arrogant Americans." What about two people from different non-English speaking countries? If neither understands the language of the other, how do they communicate? The chances are that if they speak a common language at all, it would be English. So, when you use English in EVE or any other online game (without region specific servers, etc), you are ensuring that the greatest number of players (native English speakers or not) will understand you. As a side note, English is not an easy language to learn. As I said before, I'm a native English speaker, and I've found most of the other languages I've studied to be much easier than English, mostly because they tend to be more consistent in the application of their grammer rules. It seems that for every rule in English, there are a dozen or more exceptions.
Val Vympel Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.03.05 23:15:00 - [29] Originally by: Tellenta Edited by: Tellenta on 05/03/2008 21:29:15 Originally by: F'nog Originally by: The Geoman My understanding has been that not even half of the player base is from North America, so you really should expect to hear languages other than English in the game. And you should be grateful that others are speaking English when they do. So English is only a native language in North America? That's news to me. Oddly enough the United States doesn't have an official language. Every once in a while you get to see a congressman ramble about making it the official language but it never goes through. Then of course there are the French Canadians. Rumor has it the UK speaks english, but thats sometimes up to debate. Check your sources...The United States does indeed have an official language. English The federal government only officially adopted it several years ago...but it is law. Cheers
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Infinity Enterprises Odyssey.	Posted - 2008.03.06 00:01:00 - [30] Originally by: Val Vympel Originally by: The Geoman My understanding has been that not even half of the player base is from North America, so you really should expect to hear languages other than English in the game. And you should be grateful that others are speaking English when they do. Ummm? last time I checked The United Kingdom,Australia and New Zealand are English speaking countries... Wait one min..consulting my globe.. Yep!...not one of those places are in North America. And FYI...more than HALF of the playerbase is comprised of people who live in English speaking countries. Please..think before you speak...whatever the language. Cheers only in your dreams. I coudl bet not even 1/3 are native english speakers. The most spoken language in europe is german, then french and Europe has more players than US in eve. Also all south america that has TONS of players also do not sepak english all Ex Soviet Union Countries, which also have TONS of players. I play this game for quite a few years, and as a genral rule of thumb less , quite less than 1/3 of people I met are english speakers. ------------------------------------------------- If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough

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