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Liam Mirren
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Posted - 2012.02.20 09:11:00 -
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Not trying to make this into a political thing, even though it concerns one of the US president candidates, but do people in the US really believe this sort of nonsense?
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baltec1
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Posted - 2012.02.20 09:29:00 -
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I had to watch that twice just to be sure. The levels of stupid coming out of that mans mouth just made the IQ of the entire planet to go down. |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.02.20 10:08:00 -
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Wow...
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2012.02.20 14:06:00 -
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Quote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia_in_the_Netherlands
Euthanasia in the Netherlands is regulated by the "Termination of Life on Request and Assisted Suicide (Review Procedures) Act" from 2002. It states that euthanasia and physician-assisted suicide are not punishable if the attending physician acts in accordance with criteria of due care.[1] These criteria concern the patient's request, the patient's suffering (unbearable and hopeless), the information provided to the patient, the presence of reasonable alternatives, consultation of another physician and the applied method of ending life.[1] To demonstrate their compliance, the Act requires physicians to report euthanasia to a review committee.[1]
To be fair, "... euthanasia and physician-assisted suicide are not punishable if the attending physician acts in accordance with criteria of due care." is pretty creepy.
edit: Ok, it's only creepy if you take that line out of context, embellish it, and twist it to drum up support from your political base. Welcome to politics.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Liam Mirren
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Posted - 2012.02.20 14:17:00 -
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Here's what actually happens in Holland.
If someone has an illness that's not curable and makes life "unbearable" one can ask for help with euthanasia, but only if that person has a sound mind and knows exactly what he's asking for (no cases of Alzheimer for instance). This means that there'll be a weighing and discussion on what "unbearable" really means and if the patient is actually "of sound mind" for every case and even then, many doctors will decline help based on personal beliefs or because they feel that there's still options open.
In other words; nothing wrong, no "please don't kill me" bracelets or involuntary euthanasia. This is nothing else but fcking moronic stupidity on Santorum's part.
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2012.02.20 14:42:00 -
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Liam Mirren wrote:
In other words; nothing wrong, no "please don't kill me" bracelets or involuntary euthanasia. This is nothing else but fcking moronic stupidity on Santorum's part.
It's better to say that Santorum's facts are completely utterly and wrong instead of calling him stupid. If he can twist the story to be about euthanasia, and use it emphasize his religious objection to euthanasia thereby demonstrating his evangelical credentials, then it may help him to win further support in the Republican primaries in order to defeat his rival Mitt Romney and win the GOP nomination. Which isn't stupid.
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Liam Mirren
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Posted - 2012.02.20 14:50:00 -
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Nope I'd pretty much call that stupid, unless ofcourse US citizens actually gobble that **** up. In which case... you should have mandatory euthanasia over there.
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Parthonax
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Posted - 2012.02.20 14:52:00 -
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sometimes , just a few times those american politicians scare me
Their lack of knowledge about other cultures and countries alone scares me
I feel pitty for the american voters so little choice
Beside the Netherlands aren't the only country in the world where Euthanasia has been taken out of criminal law
and as far i know the text is almost indentical as the dutch version
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2012.02.20 15:05:00 -
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Our political system has become such a joke.
I so badly want to vote for a good Republican, but we haven't had one of those in a very long time.
Looks like I'm going Libertarian again. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2012.02.20 15:09:00 -
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Parthonax wrote:Their lack of knowledge about other cultures and countries alone scares me
To be fair, very few Europeans know much about American culture. They know the caricatured version they get from our television filtered through their own culture's perception of us. We have dozens of distinct cultures, and our politicians need to understand THOSE first. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.02.20 15:17:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Parthonax wrote:Their lack of knowledge about other cultures and countries alone scares me To be fair, very few Europeans know much about American culture. They know the caricatured version they get from our television filtered through their own culture's perception of us. We have dozens of distinct cultures, and our politicians need to understand THOSE first.
We do get America, the problem is the stupid are so loud and have so much power over there it drowns out the bulk of the normals. |
Liam Mirren
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Posted - 2012.02.20 15:46:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:To be fair, very few Europeans know much about American culture. They know the caricatured version they get from our television filtered through their own culture's perception of us. We have dozens of distinct cultures, and our politicians need to understand THOSE first.
Sure, I'll give you that. But any country where clowns like this guy actually have a chance to become president is already a caricature.
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Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.20 19:18:00 -
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And Newt Gingrich wants poor children to work as child laborers.
I wonder why anyone takes the US elections serious anymore. Ignoring all the other things about the US politics, the candidates are outright insane, fit for naught but a freak show. |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2012.02.20 20:16:00 -
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Sidus Isaacs wrote:And Newt Gingrich wants poor children to work as child laborers.
I wonder why anyone takes the US elections serious anymore. Ignoring all the other things about the US politics, the candidates are outright insane, fit for naught but a freak show.
Except that's not what New said/meant: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/dec/14/mitt-romney/romney-gingrich-wants-scrap-child-labor-laws/
So what does it mean when the voters incorrectly ascribe stupid/insane things to the politicians...? 
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
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Posted - 2012.02.20 20:26:00 -
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Sidus Isaacs wrote:And Newt Gingrich wants poor children to work as child laborers.
I wonder why anyone takes the US elections serious anymore. Ignoring all the other things about the US politics, the candidates are outright insane, fit for naught but a freak show.
For european tears, its the only reason to pay attention to politics. Suppose life is suppose to be about smoking pot and getting rid of the people who suck through euthanasia. The Dutch have blood on their wooden boots, and those wind mills are powered by rivers of blood as well.
The republicans candidates are just being republican. Putin is almost funner to watch then them.
But if Barack can get a good platform or so, propably vote for him.
(Besides the how to tax rich or to tax them has to be solved maybe, before big time campaigning can begin)
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
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Posted - 2012.02.20 20:58:00 -
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Sometimes American politics just look like a contest about who can get over with the steamiest pile of bullsh*it. 
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CSM 6: 100% Nullsec residents.
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W1rlW1nd
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 03:13:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Parthonax wrote:Their lack of knowledge about other cultures and countries alone scares me To be fair, very few Europeans know much about American culture. They know the caricatured version they get from our television . . .
. . .unfortunately, we Americans also get that same thing. Hence Americans who know very little about actual American History or various cultures in our country, but know a whole lot about who can sing on American Idol, etc.
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Selinate
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Posted - 2012.02.21 03:57:00 -
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Politics is much like religion (at least in the U.S.). Charismatic people influence stupid people based on misinformation that coincides with what stupid people believe, convincing stupid people to give the charismatic person more power.
This is one of the reasons why I don't vote republican. You can argue all day that the parties are essentially the same in some ways, but when it comes to fear mongering and twisting of information, republican politicians really just love to do it to further their own misguided goals... |
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.02.21 06:48:00 -
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IBTL
Life is short and dinner time is chancy
Eat desert first! |
Kehro Urgus
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Posted - 2012.02.21 06:59:00 -
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"Are you aware that Claude Pepper is known all over Washington as a shameless extrovert? Not only that, but this man is reliably reported to practice nepotism with his sister-in-law, he has a brother who is a known homo sapiens,[9] and he has a sister who was once a thespian in wicked New York. Worst of all, it is an established fact that Mr. Pepper, before his marriage, habitually practiced celibacy."
The statement was a hoax but kinda reminds me of the Santorum campaign.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Pepper
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Shivus Tao
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2012.02.21 09:18:00 -
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Santorum is the epitome of bible thumping hypocrisy America has become famous for. On that point we're like the Christian version of (insert middle eastern country here), or a modern version of the papacy. It's all just a play for power, except Santorum actually seems naive enough to believe what he's spewing, along with a decent voting base.
When it comes to Newt, I'm kind of split. On one hand I entirely agree that poor and at risk teens should be given the opportunity to work for some money within a school provided it gives them an incentive to keep their grades up. On the other hand his ego is massive, and I mean frighteningly so.
And Romney... Aside from the flip flopping if there was ever one man that could act as a face for 1% elitism that the 99% (more like the other 1%) could rally against, well he's the one.
It's like one of my Japanese animus. Abraham Lincoln sacrificed his own life force to split post Bush era Republican nominees into 3 components because he knew the world could not endure the combined hypocrisy, ego, stupidity, and sanctimonious self righteousness of one super Republican.
Despite being Republican in some values, I just cannot bring myself to support the party as long as this level of absolute stupidity continues. |
Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.02.21 16:57:00 -
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It's all true ! They don't want the truth to come out but Santorum knows !
Oh god, I can hear them at the door, they've found me !
Viva la resista
FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES ! |
2bhammered
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.22 16:43:00 -
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Great thread, thanks for the laugh and why am I not surprised watching an American bullshit and his fellow Americans buying it!?! yeah... |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.02.22 17:03:00 -
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I want to know why nobody ever calls them out on this crap. If this happened over here the media would have a field day and more than likely said fool would not only end his election but also have to say sorry to the offended country. |
2bhammered
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.22 17:15:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:I want to know why nobody ever calls them out on this crap. If this happened over here the media would have a field day and more than likely said fool would not only end his election but also have to say sorry to the offended country.
In America freedom means to never have to apologize or take responsibility for ones actions  |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:10:00 -
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DON'T
get me started.
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Darrow Hill
Vodka and Vice
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:25:00 -
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My take on this:
My parents are evangelical Christians (i'm 33, for reference). Over Christmas, my mother repeatedly asked what I think of Santorum.
In their minds it is very simple; does he share my faith? If so he MUST be the right choice.
What really scares me is that they agree with his bigotry and racism! Of course they would never admit that's what it truly is.
They've gone bat-****-insane, and I am not sure what to do about it. |
2bhammered
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:38:00 -
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Darrow Hill wrote:My take on this:
My parents are evangelical Christians (i'm 33, for reference). Over Christmas, my mother repeatedly asked what I think of Santorum.
In their minds it is very simple; does he share my faith? If so he MUST be the right choice.
What really scares me is that they agree with his bigotry and racism! Of course they would never admit that's what it truly is.
They've gone bat-****-insane, and I am not sure what to do about it.
Pray for them   |
Darrow Hill
Vodka and Vice
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:47:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:Pray for them
That was funny 
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Selinate
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:40:00 -
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Republicans have really gone off the deep end for this election year... |
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