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Sunja Pyro
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Posted - 2008.03.16 19:47:00 -
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Great! Let all the suiciders be burned by the wrath of CONCORD! 
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Hey You
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Posted - 2008.04.05 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: ANTI SUICIDEGANKER Edited by: ANTI SUICIDEGANKER on 07/03/2008 18:52:35 Edited by: ANTI SUICIDEGANKER on 07/03/2008 18:50:40
Originally by: Nyabinghi So essentially this guy is "waking up" CONCORD and making them more effective. And people here are saying it's definitely an exploit because it is a viable tactic to use against suicide gankers who are not exploiting? If people can use suicide offensively I see no reason why suicide can't be used defensively.
But more to the point these types of situations prove that CCP needs to rework the game dynamics in regards to CONCORD and insurance payouts.
I am suicide ganking Hulks with my Ibis. This is allowed. It is not my fault that Conord serve and protect the hulk after they kill me when I managed to do 0.01 damage to the hulk. As soon as concord spawn goes away, I try to suicide gank the hulk again.
If Mission Runner gankers are camping the gate, I try to suicide gank a can or the gate itself. This is allowed. Concord spawn in and camp the gate and thus it is safe. As soon as concord goes away after a few hours, I return to try to suicide gank the gate or can. As long as I lose my ship, it is allowed.
If people camp a gate to kill freightors, I will also try to suicide gank them with my Ibis. Concord will hear a fight has gone on and will jump in to help. It is not my fault that suicide ganking with ibis is perfectly allowed. I could use a Conord as well, as I hear they are almost free. This is not WOW people, you are allowed to try to suicide gank with ibis.
When I am -5 sec. I will simply use station instawarps to undock from stations safely to repeat the process regardless of sec rating. This is allowed and if it is not allowed, i will stop.... Or use a Condor insted.
Its not your fault tht you are ****** either i think... Not to mention exploiting biatch __________________________________
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3ungle
Antipodean inc. Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.04.05 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Hey You Its not your fault tht you are ****** either i think... Not to mention exploiting biatch
LOL, thats ripe coming from a member of BOB? How many times have you pushed the exploit button?
What he has here is a way to help protect himself do somthing in the game which he appreciates, nothing wrong with that. Just like the gankers and their ways to do somthing in the game that they enjoy. There will always be exploits, thing is the one here isnt hurting anyone, quite the opposite tbh. Sure the gankers dont get to Boast about another Massive Miner kill in empire, but that will heal when they step into 0.0 and get their A** handed to them by the people that actually PVP.
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vkoloyan
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Posted - 2008.04.29 00:51:00 -
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It's the same thing as calling the cops to your house beforehand if you think your are gonna get robbed or killed  |

HakanSherif
Minmatar Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.04.29 11:49:00 -
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ccp needs to remove the insurance payout for aggression in high sec and also slightly increase the sec hit in high sec. Problem solved.
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Kage Toshimado
Kage Clan
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Posted - 2008.04.29 12:09:00 -
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Concord is a joke in your town
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Shakuul
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.05 07:45:00 -
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wow thats a really clever counter to suicide ganking.
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Havohej
The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2008.06.05 08:38:00 -
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Edited by: Havohej on 05/06/2008 08:39:10 Edited by: Havohej on 05/06/2008 08:38:25
Originally by: Shakuul wow thats a really clever counter to suicide ganking.
Why in the hell would somebody bump this are tarded thread? 
EDIT: AFTER OVER A MONTH!!!!
EDITED EDIT: What page of the forum was it on? 19? 20? Do you know what 'necro' means with regard to forums?
Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
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NeoNeTiC
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2008.06.05 08:47:00 -
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CONCORD should ask you for a few bucks before helping you in my opinion. There you fly throuh the worst parts of the known universe with your highly valuable cargo in a fragile ship and expect to be saved before something happens or someone escapes with it?
I can imagine them flying close to you, asking if everything is allright while your hull starts to burst in flames from the missiles hitting it. You then grab the ISKies laying around and wave at them in panic. They might save you - or take the ISKies and laugh.
I'd like them more that way. :|
Happy bribing,
NeoNeTiC
[MORTS]-Gank-Club
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Dariah Stardweller
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Posted - 2008.06.05 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: NeoNeTiC CONCORD should ask you for a few bucks before helping you in my opinion. There you fly throuh the worst parts of the known universe with your highly valuable cargo in a fragile ship and expect to be saved before something happens or someone escapes with it?
I can imagine them flying close to you, asking if everything is allright while your hull starts to burst in flames from the missiles hitting it. You then grab the ISKies laying around and wave at them in panic. They might save you - or take the ISKies and laugh.
I'd like them more that way. :|
Happy bribing,
NeoNeTiC
[MORTS]-Gank-Club
Yeah... accept that high sec is not meant to be the "worst part of the known universe". But you're right saying Concord protection should be available throughout low sec too, since it is still empire.
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Scrutt5
Snuff inc
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Posted - 2008.06.05 11:17:00 -
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I'm the first to admit I kill people in empire, but only ever low sec. Pilots who enter low sec understand the machanics and have no grounds to complain when they are destroyed.
Suiside ganking in high sec is way out of control.
Nice idea, nice thread, good comedy value.
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Uni Zueto
Nakama
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Posted - 2008.06.05 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Tacitus Krekt Edited by: Tacitus Krekt on 07/03/2008 19:20:17 If people complain about concord already being on top of the ship, then they're simply stamping their feet in ignorance like a confused child.
When you engage someone, concord spawns a group for YOU. Existing concord will NOT shoot you. Gate guns, however, will immediately begin to fire if you're engaging on a gate (this is to the best of my knowledge, and how I've been told the system works. If it is incorrect, let me know).
Think of it this way...
You attack hulk in belt. Concord script starts, with them ordered to engage you (of which they stand-down when your ship is destroyed). At this point concord begin to choke down donuts and laugh at the pod pilots lagging in system. This is why you get huge blobs of concord, and why suicide ganking freighters is possible (otherwise 300+ spawned concord would melt engaging battleships in seconds, as opposed to the current system where a group spawns and only spawns to engage a single attacking ship).
This is exactly why this strategy doesn't help the victims because CONCORD camping a gate is only there to destroy his ship. The game mechanics are failing because under realistic circumstances the gate camped by CONCORD would open fire on any suicide engagers and actually keep the gate safe. This doesn't happen and his attempts at protecting the general populous is destined to fail.. Unless CCP corrects the engagement rules of CONCORD.
Also, no insurance company in their right minds would ever pay out on ships lost in criminal activity. Since a kill mail is generated and is easily accessable by CONCORD the SCC should deny any payouts involving breaking of CONCORD laws in Empire. Again CCP would need to correct this game mechanic to bring it in line with realism.
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Angel Lightbringer
Dark Evolution Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.05 13:13:00 -
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Excellent idea.
Originally by: HakanSherif ccp needs to remove the insurance payout for aggression in high sec and also slightly increase the sec hit in high sec. Problem solved.
Also excellent addition.
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Lothereli
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Posted - 2008.07.12 19:23:00 -
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O Well someone asked early on.. To Serve and Protect is the motto of the Los Angeles Police Department.
Great topic and you can tell the players by their comments without a scorecard.
Loth
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MarleWH
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Posted - 2008.07.12 19:43:00 -
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Yes yes very clever, unfortunately it doesn't work. A new CONCORD fleet spawns for each new offense. So if someone suicide ganks a hulk, the CONCORD that is there won't help.
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