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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2012.02.20 23:43:00 -
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About 24 months ago I had an alt who joined a corp, awoxed the corps mining fleet then cloaking up in local and attempting to slow boat 94au. I would log the alt on at the end of each downtime, and the alt would keep slow boating until the next downtime. After about 15 days (can't remember) I got some correspondence from GM which I can not discuss here but resulted in me logging the alt off long enough for the alt to be removed from the corp. |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
303
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Posted - 2012.02.21 01:05:00 -
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i like bananas.....
eve needs too be 100% risk free these days.... stay in empire if you want 100% safety.
CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |
NaturalBeast
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2012.02.21 03:29:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote:To answer the follow up discussion; no, we still do not step in. However, I can say that we understand that this is a frustrating process and there are some internal discussions among senior members of the customer support department on this subject. Will this change? I do not know. Do we acknowledge that this is something that some of our customers are passionate about? Yes, we do and we do evaluate these issues on a regular basis.
This policy should NEVER change. Keep the sand for the players.
The solution is very simple. Strip the guy of all rights, pod him to empire and then sell his loot. C;mon this ain't rocket science.
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Headerman
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
641
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Posted - 2012.02.21 03:50:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:i like bananas.....
eve needs too be 100% risk free these days.... stay in -A- space if you want 100% safety.
fyp
The Apostle : I want a kangeroo
Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians
Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US?
Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |
Arkady Vachon
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.21 06:18:00 -
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Mag's wrote:GM Homonoia wrote:To answer the follow up discussion; no, we still do not step in. However, I can say that we understand that this is a frustrating process and there are some internal discussions among senior members of the customer support department on this subject. Will this change? I do not know. Do we acknowledge that this is something that some of our customers are passionate about? Yes, we do and we do evaluate these issues on a regular basis. There is an easy solution. An option to delay kick someone when they next go offline. That way they would be out come next DT.
Sounds reasonable to me. Player to be kicked is auto-kicked at next downtime even if they refuse to dock up.
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Bad Messenger
draketrain
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
115
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Posted - 2012.02.21 08:48:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote:To answer the follow up discussion; no, we still do not step in. However, I can say that we understand that this is a frustrating process and there are some internal discussions among senior members of the customer support department on this subject. Will this change? I do not know. Do we acknowledge that this is something that some of our customers are passionate about? Yes, we do and we do evaluate these issues on a regular basis.
Player who do not will dock or log off because he do not want that someone is going to kick him out of corp is clearly exploiting game mechanics, maybe GM could ban him for a day. |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
528
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Posted - 2012.02.21 10:09:00 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:Hmmm I thought you could kick nowerdays because of supercap pilots...
If you can't kick him at next down time, escalate the petition.
I thought you could these days.
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Tiberius Sunstealer
Phantom Soulreavers
Axiom Solaris
122
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Posted - 2012.02.21 11:03:00 -
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How about making a kick take affect at DT if the pilot cannot be kicked anytime before it?
Wow. That was hard. I can see why CCP haven't fixed it yet. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
2893
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Posted - 2012.02.21 12:11:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:GM Homonoia wrote:To answer the follow up discussion; no, we still do not step in. However, I can say that we understand that this is a frustrating process and there are some internal discussions among senior members of the customer support department on this subject. Will this change? I do not know. Do we acknowledge that this is something that some of our customers are passionate about? Yes, we do and we do evaluate these issues on a regular basis. Player who do not will dock or log off because he do not want that someone is going to kick him out of corp is clearly exploiting game mechanics, maybe GM could ban him for a day.
No, they clearly just don't want to dock. There is nothing in the rules that says that you MUST dock up. Stop being a jerk.
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CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
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GM Homonoia
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
289
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Posted - 2012.02.22 16:08:00 -
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A small update. As I said earlier; these types of issues are continuously being reviewed and I can add a small addendum to the policy I stated earlier.
We will still not intervene, however should this tactic and behavior enter the realm of "griefing/harassment", we may opt to step in. Note that someone simply refusing to leave for several days does not fall into this category. Things need to go pretty far for us to classify this tactic as such, but we do acknowledge that in some rare, extreme cases an evaluation of that particular individual case may be warranted.
In other words; feel free to use the tactic, but don't be an utter and total ***.
Senior GM Homonoia | Info Group | Senior Game Master |
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
815
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Posted - 2012.02.22 16:17:00 -
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arcca jeth wrote:I recently encountered a scammer, thank you recruiting channel, who joined corp with the intent to scam. When I checked, he was in his pod floating in space in Sobaseki. Once I realized he could not be kicked while he was in space, I was further irritated by this stupid feature. Sure the solution would be to pop him, if finding him was that easy. Can the pod even be scanned down? Not sure didn't try. Nonetheless, the scam was detected from the beginning, and the toon, once called out, shortly destroyed his toon. This just leaves people open to exploit the system the way it is, which does not seem to have any real justification for being there.
Your explanation of the "unfairness" and mostly the last part I really enjoyed:
"This just leaves people open to exploit the system the way it is, which does not seem to have any real justification for being there"
Isn't exactly what happens with high sec mechanics?
Ho wait, Eve is an harsh world...the moment isn't yours? |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
143
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Posted - 2012.02.22 17:40:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote:
In other words; feel free to use the tactic, but don't be an utter and total ***.
So you can be a total *** or an utter ***, but not both. See, there is a line. 
Buff Hybrid Guns!!!! |
Jita Alt666
930
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:34:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote:A small update. As I said earlier; these types of issues are continuously being reviewed and I can add a small addendum to the policy I stated earlier.
We will still not intervene, however should this tactic and behavior enter the realm of "griefing/harassment", we may opt to step in. Note that someone simply refusing to leave for several days does not fall into this category. Things need to go pretty far for us to classify this tactic as such, but we do acknowledge that in some rare, extreme cases an evaluation of that particular individual case may be warranted.
In other words; feel free to use the tactic, but don't be an utter and total ***.
So is the sum total of:
Using locator agents and then decloaking on grid and killing/podding then posting inflammatory eve mails is harassment?
Or is it the repeated killing/podding that is harrassment?
Or is it the inflammatory evemails?
If it is the killing/podding where is the line between "gud fites" and harassment?
If it is the inflammatory evemails where is the line between gentle mocking and harassment?
I'm not trying to be a ***, just curious as this seems a grey area where GM interpretation might be the difference between acceptable game play, warning time, or even a temp ban.
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Deen Wispa
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
141
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:49:00 -
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The question I have is if there is any benefit to keeping the system as is rather than changing it to allow a CEO to kick a member who is in space?
If you want Empire and FW space enhanced, Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=66900&find=unread |
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
Dark Empire Alliance
73
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:27:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:arcca jeth wrote:I recently encountered a scammer, thank you recruiting channel, who joined corp with the intent to scam. When I checked, he was in his pod floating in space in Sobaseki. Once I realized he could not be kicked while he was in space, I was further irritated by this stupid feature. Sure the solution would be to pop him, if finding him was that easy. Can the pod even be scanned down? Not sure didn't try. Nonetheless, the scam was detected from the beginning, and the toon, once called out, shortly destroyed his toon. This just leaves people open to exploit the system the way it is, which does not seem to have any real justification for being there. Your explanation of the "unfairness" and mostly the last part I really enjoyed: "This just leaves people open to exploit the system the way it is, which does not seem to have any real justification for being there" Isn't exactly what happens with high sec mechanics? Ho wait, Eve is an harsh world...the moment isn't yours?
I was simply relating my experience with this mechanic to a situation that i encountered recently where the scammer was exploiting this mechanic to try to scam me. once i revoked his roles, he couldnt leave for 24 hours, so he "recycled" his toon so he could create a new one to try to scam other unsuspecting victims.
I was relating to the topic really, wasn't trying to say it was unfair. The mechanic could be exploited in various different ways. Wasn't a complaint really, just an observation. not sure if troll....
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Headerman
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
642
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Posted - 2012.02.22 22:52:00 -
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Update: The pilot in question was succesfully kicked after a director logged on after a DT and removed the pilot from corp before said pilot had logged in.
I believe this particular mechanic is why a GM doesn't feel the need to intervene 
The Apostle : I want a kangeroo
Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians
Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US?
Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |
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