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maralt Minmatar The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.10 10:48:00 - [1] Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: DRAREG how strange ,you coundn't take 2 territory that Bob was defending lol We've taken cynojammed systems from BOB, they've not been able to do it to us yet. Then perhaps you should continue to do so instead of crying to the mods for a nerf as per usual or are you unable to do anything to BOB without the rest of EVE holding your hand. You should see this as an opportunity to shut up all the ppl on caod who claim you guys are skill less hangers on who can do nothing alone but instead you seem to want to confirm it with another whine too CCP. BOB may have never taken a cyno jammed system off you but then when you have a player base of over 20,000 to support you thats hardly something to brag about in fact its something to be ashamed off.
maralt Minmatar The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.10 11:16:00 - [2] Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: maralt Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: DRAREG how strange ,you coundn't take 2 territory that Bob was defending lol We've taken cynojammed systems from BOB, they've not been able to do it to us yet. Then perhaps you should continue to do so instead of crying to the mods for a nerf as per usual or are you unable to do anything to BOB without the rest of EVE holding your hand. You should see this as an opportunity to shut up all the ppl on caod who claim you guys are skill less hangers on who can do nothing alone but instead you seem to want to confirm it with another whine too CCP. BOB may have never taken a cyno jammed system off you but then when you have a player base of over 20,000 to support you thats hardly something to brag about in fact its something to be ashamed off. Personally I think if there's going to be a nerf, I'd rather take bob's space from them first. It's sweeter that way. PROVE IT OR STFU. Stop prattling on about it and do it, or will you sit around until the nerf does it for you and claim afterwards that you were gonna kill em but the nerf got there first?. This is the best opportunity GOONS will ever have had to step up to the plate and show that are a individual power to be reckoned with in EVE, to shut up all those who slag you off and call you a bunch of useless fools. But instead of kicking ass your bleating on about stupid statements made by that moron molle years ago and telling stories about how they cannot take your cynojammed systems when you and your coalition outnumber them by a ridiculous amount. Are you really so afraid to fail at taking the last of BOB's systems because if you are that is a very poor attitude for you leaders to have in a alliance with your membership numbers a very poor attitude and one that will never see the end of BOB.
maralt Minmatar The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.10 11:23:00 - [3] Edited by: maralt on 10/03/2008 11:26:38 Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: KIATolon Personally I think if there's going to be a nerf, I'd rather take bob's space from them first. It's sweeter that way. Originally by: maralt PROVE IT OR STFU. Make me And there lies the rub, i should not need to make you as you should actually want to but you seem to feel that without other alliances around to hold your hand you will fail so you are unwilling to try. That makes you a coward in a online game bud and thats really pathetic imho.
maralt Minmatar The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.10 11:40:00 - [4] Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: maralt And there lies the rub, i should not need to make you as you should actually want to but you seem to feel that without other alliances around to hold your hand you will fail so you are unwilling to try. That makes you a coward in a online game bud and thats really pathetic imho. Says the alt. We are all alts pal its part of the game, but hey if the standard "your a alt" comment helps you avoid the issue go for it.
maralt Minmatar The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.10 11:52:00 - [5] Edited by: maralt on 10/03/2008 11:56:01 Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: maralt We are all alts pal its part of the game, but hey if the standard "your a alt" comment helps you avoid the issue go for it. No, this char is my main. But it is not you as a person it is an avatar created to play and post in a game and the fact is that how you play and what you say defines your personality, not who you post with or play ingame with. You claim you wish to kill BOB before a nerf changes things then put your money where your mouth (main or alts mouth it does not matter) is and do it.
maralt Minmatar The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.10 12:10:00 - [6] Edited by: maralt on 10/03/2008 12:12:18 Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: maralt But it is not you as a person it is an avatar created to play and post in a game and the fact is that how you play and what you say defines your personality, not who you post with or play ingame with. You claim you wish to kill BOB before a nerf changes things then put your money where your mouth (main or alts mouth it does not matter) is and do it. I am. I did put my money where my mouth was, and put down 30 GF pos's, which bob have just finished killing, then admitted I failed, all of which is in this thread already... so either your trolling or monumentally dumb. edit: after re-reading the "how you play the game defines who you are as a person" I'm going with monumentally dumb. I do not think you are monumentally dumb you are just used to having numbers on your side and those numbers being the deciding factor so you had no need to out think a problem, and now they are not the deciding factor you seem a little stuck as what to do. Monumentally dumb and sad is if you stop thinking about how to solve the problem and actually trying to solve it, or relying on a nerf or somebody else to sort it for you.
maralt Minmatar The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.10 12:23:00 - [7] Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: Ethen Bejorn Goon tears are so sweet. I just got fired for crying so hard. Please send help. Howdy Dr nekums guess who?. Now i've been reading through a lot of this thread and aside from the BOB ego posts the attitude of your chappies (apart from the nutty razor chappy above) seem to be one of retreat and disarray/confusion at the moment can you confirm this or is it a pull back and regroup kinda deal?.
maralt Minmatar The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.10 12:28:00 - [8] Originally by: Baxalusx Edited by: Baxalusx on 10/03/2008 12:23:57 Originally by: Mr Mozzie Originally by: Baxalusx Congratulations Molle, it seems you've finally found the equal in defense you lost in offense with the removal of invulnerability of Titans. Unfortunately, your cynojammers will eventually be balanced too. Delve isn't going anywhere, and neither are we. That's the goon spirit! If you can't beat them, write a detailed manifesto to convince ccp that they need to rebalance the game mechanics in your favour. If that doesn't work you can always threadnaught up some scandal. Yes, that's exactly what we're going to do - argue in a rational manner why the current game mechanics don't produce fdeal competitive conditions (balance) so CCP can more easily see these imbalances and correct them. The fact that your alliance's entire military doctrine seems to revolve around the "abuse" of these imbalances and consider them central to the game (note I am not calling BoB exploiters here), instead of working to correct them to produce ideal competitive conditions that involve as many aspects of EVE as possible to achieve victory, is what makes us fight you. You know cynojammers/JBs make system defense too easy for the defender, we know it, CCP knows it, all that's left is someone getting fed up and explaining in painful detail how exactly they produce terrible competitive conditions so the problem and solution become apparent and it's fixed. Like I always say, BoB's problem is that they are competent on only one aspect of EVE, the tactical aspect. BoB is little but a one-trick pony that picked up an additional trick by accident, and sooner or later that, like Titans, will too grow tired. Your argument would hold water if not for one tiny fact you seem to wish to avoid. The fact that you have already taken plenty of cyno jammed systems of BOB and their allies and its only since a lot of your allies have bailed on you that you now fail to take more. BOB has the same amount of TITANS, cap ships and in fact less allies than it had when you took those other jammed systems and yet as soon as your allies go home is sobs at dawn for a nerf cos the game is broken again. Go away.
maralt Minmatar The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.10 12:50:00 - [9] Edited by: maralt on 10/03/2008 12:54:31 Originally by: Baxalusx Yes, that's exactly what we're going to do - argue in a rational manner why the current game mechanics don't produce fdeal competitive conditions (balance) so CCP can more easily see these imbalances and correct them. How about this for balance... Originally by: KIATolon Nerfing cynojammers benefits bob, not us. Bob have NEVER taken a cynojammed system from RSF, and we've taken 6 regions of jammed systems from bob, or this.......... Originally by: KIATolon Personally I think if there's going to be a nerf, I'd rather take bob's space from them first. It's sweeter that way. The only thing that has changed is that all the alliances that were carrying you have either been reset and back stabbed or gone home. What was it last month?... drone swarms from carriers on the gates?.
maralt Minmatar The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.10 12:58:00 - [10] Originally by: Nekumi I guess we can just wait and see what happens now that we are all alone now apparently and BoB are on the upsurge again (like they where two weeks ago after our defeat in NOL). I expect rapid eviction will come any day now that we are all alone. If BoB fail again though can we switch back to saying it's because of our allies because they do deserve all the credit. Credit where credit is due Dr nekums dear, so if you kill BOB solo the props for it will be large and indisputable.
maralt Minmatar The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.10 13:09:00 - [11] Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: maralt Originally by: Nekumi I guess we can just wait and see what happens now that we are all alone now apparently and BoB are on the upsurge again (like they where two weeks ago after our defeat in NOL). I expect rapid eviction will come any day now that we are all alone. If BoB fail again though can we switch back to saying it's because of our allies because they do deserve all the credit. Credit where credit is due Dr nekums dear, so if you kill BOB solo the props for it will be large and indisputable. We only play eve for the e respect, mad props and k/d ratio. Holy Hanna you guys are dragging up all the oldies and goldies today ain't ya, i had no idea morale was so bad on the home front bud.
maralt Minmatar The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.10 14:10:00 - [12] Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: Kriger So to roughly sum this up: BoB: 'we'll kill u all' Goons: 'omg help us they are ebil incarnated!' 80% of the map: 'no worries goons we'll help u. we got gonads the size of planets... when we fight em a gazilion to one that is..' BoB: 'holy crap.. alot of targets heading this way..' coalition: 'hahaha look BoB suckz0rs.. they cant fend of 80% of the map alone muhahah!' coalition: 'die bob' coalition: 'die bob!!' coalition: 'ffs.. die bob!!!!!' BoB: 'yaaay this is fuuun!' coalition: 'hmm this sucks.. lets go do something else..' BoB: 'uhm guys..? we just slapped you around.. are we done?' coalition: 'uhm.. crap.. BoB u OMFGHAXEXPLOITUSUCKBLOBZ0RS!' coalition: moan coalition: emo coalition: moan!! ... Warning: Coalition moan/emo posts incoming.. trolling ftw.. You should be an historian. It was like reliving it all over again
maralt Minmatar The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.10 17:22:00 - [13] Originally by: Angor How did you guys get the cynojammer down in NOL again? Oh thats right, you made bob think you were going to attack J-L and then you attacked NOL. Why is it so hard to keep doing things like this? OR do you need the rest of the coalition to hold your hand? /signed Its easier to get a nerf than actually out think a problem now all their allies have bailed buddy.
maralt Minmatar The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.10 18:07:00 - [14] Originally by: Moonlight Express How many capitals coalition needs to lose after the now inevitable cyno-jammer nurf (no spine CCP) before goons start another whine that capitals and battleships are overpowered and imbalanced in the game? It will be the fighter swarm first i think.
maralt Minmatar The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.11 09:18:00 - [15] Originally by: Yorda Oh hey was marakor temp banned? I've been reporting his posts for a week now. All your hard work wasted cos the ban was for posting with a npc corp alt cos of a mistake with the default char button. Appeal in process. Only 4 more accounts to go :(.
maralt	Posted - 2008.03.13 10:16:00 - [16] Originally by: AIchemist rant + bump
maralt	Posted - 2008.03.13 10:23:00 - [17] Originally by: AIchemist Edited by: AIchemist on 13/03/2008 10:19:15 Originally by: maralt Originally by: AIchemist rant + bump It was at the top when I posted.Though i'm glad that you catch on to things so quick.Hint.If you make an alt to hide at least do it with some brilliance. Stop failing on almost every post you make.Adding a smiley face while changing a qoute is not content needed in coad thanks though alt. I really think you should chill and get a grip bud, i dunno when it was that BOB bent you over but the venom you spew is hardly something to be proud of.
maralt	Posted - 2008.03.13 10:42:00 - [18] Edited by: maralt on 13/03/2008 10:43:28 Originally by: AIchemist Yes, alt boy I'm furious. Yup and it really shows pal. Originally by: AIchemist Do us all a favor and add content or gtfo. Maybe you should follow your own advise of gtfo or stfu either is better than what you are posting....... Ok so far in delve as with the rest of the war we have seen the coalition be mostly responsible for most of the victories in delve and the rest of eve against BOB although GOONS seem to think they deserve most of the credit LOL. Now that BOB is seen as no longer a threat to their space most of the coalition have gone on their merry way leaving GOONSWARM and a few other die hard obsessives who have failed miserably now they do not have the coalition to carry them. The response to this retreat of the larger coalition members and subsequent FAIL of GOONS is their insistence that the game is broken (AGAIN) because they cannot beat BOB alone, although they still outnumber them 3-1 or more.
maralt	Posted - 2008.03.13 11:13:00 - [19] Originally by: TWD Damnit maralt, can't you be a coalition fanboy alt? Have you been reading your own drivel just recently?. Plus if you post against BOB they tend to report you for things like spelling mistakes or poor grammar let alone a real offense, although yorda seems to like telling teacher a lot as well. Anyway goon or goon fanboys are considerably easier to bait tbqfh.
maralt	Posted - 2008.03.13 11:29:00 - [20] Edited by: maralt on 13/03/2008 11:30:45 Wow i guess i was too subtle for you, but its all good next time il include this link below for ppl like you who missed it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.14 22:27:00 - [21] Edited by: maralt on 14/03/2008 22:27:15 Originally by: Scavok Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: Scavok Edited by: Scavok on 14/03/2008 22:17:37 Also wait until after their own prime to be sure the russians are in bed Um, surely Goonfleet are there when you're not online. Surely you're not suggesting that they're an inferior fighting force to Goons? Oh wait, you are. Can goonswarm take on 7 titans, 50 caps, and 100 support in BoB's home system where they can just grab new ships on their own? Nope. No single alliance could do that alone. Its all about the blob spam with you guys isn't it.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.15 09:16:00 - [22] Originally by: Thomina Yorke SEVEN TITANS ON A SINGLE GRID hahahaha BoB are completely worthless spindoctors who have to rely on seven people pressing F1 to get anywhere strategically. kills some goons loses all allies, entire empire, public opinion and respect Are you gonna beat this point to death several times on every page cos the same points could be made about your use of lag, naps and blob spamming. PS: The jammers and titan thing is under scrutiny but most of us will need considerably more proof than GOONS failing before we agree that its impossible cos lets face it your hardly a valid or competent yard stick to measure what can or cannot be done in EVE.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.15 13:32:00 - [23] Originally by: Thomina Yorke Originally by: maralt naps http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/crii/20.06.109.jpg Originally by: maralt lag and blob spamming. http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2387/1549847aeac57ab89bzm6.jpg http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8495/titansor5ya1.jpg (SEVEN TITANS) Originally by: maralt PS: The jammers and titan thing is under scrutiny but most of us will need considerably more proof than GOONS failing before we agree that its impossible cos lets face it your hardly a valid or competent yard stick to measure what can or cannot be done in EVE. Good thing CCP doesn't need any more proof. 1. Nice map im sure you posted it as proof of something but considering the coalition has always outnumbered BOB/allies by at least 2-1 and normally a lot more all it really proves is that they held all that space while massively outnumbered. 2. you guys invented the lag bomb, megablob spam and nerfed the titan to make it work for taking space so you can hardly complain about the way the game now works. 3. Nobody is denying that BOB has a lot of titans or that thy use them effectively but considering how many titans you coalition has (more than BOB) id say you are gonna do real well against BOB in the future battles. 4. According to KIAtolon you guys want to beat BOB before the jammer nerf so i suggest you hurry before it comes and ruins your victory.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.15 14:03:00 - [24] Every large alliance had the opportunity to build titans and two alliances actually did before BOB built theres the only difference is that BOB had the balls to use theirs while every other alliance hardly ever brought them out even when they saw how effective they were. Oh and those two changes effected every titan owning alliance in eve the only reason BOB lost space was because the rest of eve no longer needed to risk their own titans to take BOBS space cos conventional ship blob spams were now effective. The fact that in eve you can win every battle by far but still lose space is the most broken part of the game but i doubt you will threadnaught that little problem cos it suits your lemming like game style. Im sure that ppl will snip/paste the quote about wanting to beat BOB before the jammer nerf (after its been nerfed) and act like they are disappointed but you will need to attack NOL for ppl to believe you not waiting and relying on it (again) to beat BOB .
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.15 14:05:00 - [25] Originally by: Thomina Yorke Originally by: King Hopy Yes Goons. Go whine to CCP when you cant defeat BoB. Have them change the game so that you can win. Did it ever strike to you that the amount of time, isk and effort put into building those titans and fortifying those systems should actually mean that they arent easy to take by just blobbing t1 frigates and cruisers into the system? I guess not. Give me a Megathron and a Broadsword fitting that can tank seven Level 5 doomsdays (3x EM, 2x Therm, 2x Exp) and I'll give you 100m ISK. Maybe using skilled gameplay so you do not need to tank even one would be better, but i suppose crying for a nerf is easier than out thinking a problem.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.15 14:32:00 - [26] Originally by: Malachon Draco Originally by: Mr Mozzie Originally by: Thomina Yorke Give me a Megathron and a Broadsword fitting that can tank seven Level 5 doomsdays (3x EM, 2x Therm, 2x Exp) and I'll give you 100m ISK. Instead of 100m isk, could you give me a way to defeat a mega blob of frigs, cruisers and shuttles? Don't alienate all your friends/allies/pets by letting them die. Maybe you should have mentioned that to RAGOON considering the state of the coalition atm or do you consider reseting standings and stabbing allies in the back while stealing titans from others a way for allies to behave?.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.15 14:46:00 - [27] Originally by: Malachon Draco Some alliances may have left the Coalition, but they didn't die thats for sure. Well, except for KOS I guess, but one casualty is not much Actually the bigger/napped alliances left the coalition the smaller less connected alliances got reset and stiffed over the space they actually helped take oh yes and some just got destroyed for not allowing a super capital to be stolen. The only difference between RAGOON and BOB is that BOB fought the biggest in game and won, while RAGOON napped the biggest in game to win. Neither of them are or were particularly good to there allies imho.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.15 15:24:00 - [28] Edited by: maralt on 15/03/2008 15:25:18 Originally by: Twoside Originally by: maralt The difference between RAGOON and BOB is that BOB fought all the biggest alliances in the game and won, while RAGOON napped all the biggest alliances in the game too win. Neither of them are or were particularly good to there allies imho. Ok, just for interest, name the biggest alliances in this game that Bob fought and won against? I'll give you one: ASCN, but, who else I do not need you to give me anything but if you disagree with my post please go ahead and disprove it although with ASCN being the biggest with a titan as well and D2 also with a titan il open with those two for starters, id say you have a uphill battle on your hands but by all means go for it.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.15 17:30:00 - [29] Originally by: Sekhmet Orion Originally by: maralt D2 also with a titan il open with those two for starters as they are 2 of the most recent, id say you have a uphill battle on your hands but by all means go for it. D2 was defeated by the guys that BOB now describes as "awful pvp'rs" Of course they were quite happy to take credit for their victories back then. Really?... i always thought MC were BOB alts or just a separate part of BOB but then i read the posts by goons and guys like you that made those claims back in the day, so MC were either mercs or alts/part of BOB and either way its was a BOB win cos they either paid for the job to be done or did it themselves. But we can at least agree that both sides tend to base their opinions on how the wind is blowing.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.15 17:44:00 - [30] Edited by: maralt on 15/03/2008 17:44:39 Originally by: Sekhmet Orion Originally by: maralt Really?... i always thought MC were BOB alts or just a separate part of BOB but then i read the posts by goons and guys like you that made those claims back in the day, so MC were either mercs or alts/part of BOB and either way its was a BOB win cos they either paid for the job to be done or did it themselves. But we can at least agree that both sides tend to base their opinions on how the wind is blowing. I don't recall making claims like that. I always assumed MC and BOB worked very closely, and probably MC were not paid for the "contract" but instead received a Titan bpo (which they gave back after building nano titan) ans some other perks. I also thought they were friends, but after seeing the fallout after MC left, and the smears from both sides...it would appear that they were lovers If you missed the MC = BOB alt/BOB corp or the MC not true mercs posts you must have missed reading CAOD for a year or so bud, either way things were exchanged for services.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.15 18:34:00 - [31] Originally by: Thomina Yorke Yes, I'm bitter about imbalanced game mechanics that CCP has recognized as imbalanced and has put forward ideas to rebalance them. Your buddy below does not seem bitter at all. Originally by: KIATolon Nerfing cynojammers benefits bob, not us. Bob have NEVER taken a cynojammed system from RSF, and we've taken 6 regions of jammed systems from bob, How about this: Originally by: KIATolon Personally I think if there's going to be a nerf, I'd rather take bob's space from them first. It's sweeter that way. I suggest you start soon or as i have said you will miss the sweetness of victory, just to ask have you attacked NOL this week?.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.15 18:41:00 - [32] Edited by: maralt on 15/03/2008 18:44:09 Originally by: Local Her0 Originally by: maralt Originally by: Thomina Yorke Yes, I'm bitter about imbalanced game mechanics that CCP has recognized as imbalanced and has put forward ideas to rebalance them. Your buddy below does not seem bitter at all, then again as he says it benefits you. Originally by: KIATolon Nerfing cynojammers benefits bob, not us. Bob have NEVER taken a cynojammed system from RSF, and we've taken 6 regions of jammed systems from bob, How about this: Originally by: KIATolon Personally I think if there's going to be a nerf, I'd rather take bob's space from them first. It's sweeter that way. I suggest you start soon or as i have said you will miss the sweetness of victory, just to ask have you attacked NOL this week?. bluh bluh bluh pls try for at least some content.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.16 02:14:00 - [33] Originally by: Thomina Yorke Here's some food for thought: the last time BoB took down a cyno jammer was in F4R back in October. And aside from that little tiny section of Catch, they have never attacked and brought down a jammer since they were included into the game. BOB/allies were fighting a player base of 20-30,000 ppl while those cyno jammers were brought in or if you prefer outnumbered at least 3-1. So id say you need to take your food for thought out of the oven cos its getting burned.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.16 11:38:00 - [34] Edited by: maralt on 16/03/2008 11:51:24 Originally by: Thomina Yorke Originally by: maralt BOB/allies were fighting a player base of 20-30,000 ppl while those cyno jammers were brought in or if you prefer outnumbered at least 3-1. So id say you need to take your food for thought out of the oven cos its getting burned. Since we're talking about the Invincible Supercapital Era, you might want to subtract every subcapital pilot from those numbers and try again. You also might want to subtract the entire northern coalition because Mercenary Coalition did all of the fighting against them. Also it wasn't so much "BoB" fighting as it was the BoB Titan pilots and their cyno/dictor alts. I use the word "BOB" to include all the allies they had just like when you use the word "we" you are normally talking about the coalition and not just goons. You continue to whine about the "invincible super capital era" (although BOB killed two) but you never mention the fact that the coalition had almost as many of these "invincible super capitals" as BOB did but instead of using them effectively they hid them away because they were afraid to lose them. Not only that but BOB was massively outnumbered in capital and conventional ships by the coalition as well. BOB won its wars by playing their game very well and offensively and the fact is that the coalition had exactly the same opportunities with even more ships and players of every class and skill level at their disposal but because of crappy tactics coupled with a total lack of backbone when it came to risking expensive ships they did nothing but lose.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.16 15:50:00 - [35] Edited by: maralt on 16/03/2008 15:55:04 You post that BOB had a 3 vs 1 advantage in titans but go on to say that they killed 2 while off line that makes 3 vs 3 by my math (not including others that were hidden and that you choose to ignore as well) but then i suppose if you want to play with dates to make your numbers fit then go ahead, although it makes you a whining mathematician not a pvper or tactician. If it was so easy to kill a offlined titan and BOB had so many why didn't the coalition kill any of BOB's or are you gonna claim to be too honorable to do that, i guess stealing one of an ally is ok with your honor tank though huh?. The coalition outnumbered BOB massively with membership, conventional ships and capital ships and had a similar quantity of titans plus loads of opportunity's to do exactly what you claim BOB was doing to win their wars but instead of either developing new tactics to combat BOB or even using the same in game tactics BOB was using to fight them you went out of game and cried for a nerf. The only one trick pony in eve are the coalition cos all you know how to do is blob spam, BOB may have developed a few tactics you claim to be disliked but at least they developed them in game and nothing was stopping the coalition from using them as well apart from the risk of losing high isk value assets and of course failing, so you chose to cry for a nerf instead cos its easier than actually working for your so called victories.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.16 19:14:00 - [36] Originally by: Thomina Yorke Originally by: Moonlight Express LOL, owned Yeah, it's not like I'm a transport ship alt or anything. Really i find it quite interesting that plenty of your goonie buddies who know who my main is and what alliance im in (and have regularly posted both on these forums over the last few years) post that i should still use my main but they seem to tolerate you posting with an alt. let me guess its cos your alts in GS amirite?.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.16 21:41:00 - [37] Edited by: maralt on 16/03/2008 21:42:54 Originally by: Thomina Yorke It's also pretty funny how all the alts here are claiming we get CCP to nerf every one of BoB's tactics. Does that mean BoB plays our game now? Only if they nap most of eve. The point is that you had considerably more of virtually everything in the game and a similar amount of titans and had ample time to learn BOB's tactics and use them or even develop counters but instead you chose to scream for a nerf. Do you understand why even ppl who are or have been enemies of BOB and blue to you think you are totally worthless as gamers and have nothing but contempt for you and your policy of cry nerf if things get difficult or if you may need to risk high value assets to gain something. You should go play WOW you get to still keep your stuff if you lose in that game.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.16 21:49:00 - [38] Edited by: maralt on 16/03/2008 21:53:32 Originally by: Thomina Yorke Originally by: maralt Only if they nap most of eve. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/crii/20.06.109.jpg Its amazing isn't it that BOB and allies could hold all that space while outnumbered 3-1 by the coalition or did you have some other point of posting that map?. It makes me laugh that you and others pull out that map every time you want ppl to think BOB outnumbered or was not outnumbered its the worst and most used piece of misleading propaganda the coalition has.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:00:00 - [39] Originally by: Twoside Originally by: maralt Originally by: Thomina Yorke Originally by: maralt Only if they nap most of eve. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/crii/20.06.109.jpg Its amazing isn't it that BOB and allies could hold all that space while outnumbered 3-1 by the coalition or did you have some other point of posting that map?. It makes me laugh that you and others pull out that map every time you want ppl to think BOB outnumbered or was not outnumbered its the worst and most used piece of misleading propaganda the coalition has. is this a script, or a real person typing the same stuff over and over again? Unfortunately it can get a bit repetitive when ppl insist on posting the same misleading bll s*t over and over again. Of course if you have any facts or evidence to prove me wrong please go ahead and post it but the figures and numbers involved are well documented and certainly not misleading like that map.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:03:00 - [40] Edited by: maralt on 16/03/2008 22:05:11 Originally by: MAXSuicide uhm.. they actually couldnt. Hence why they are now stuck in delve under siege And yet there it is all nice and blue and posted by a goon and it took a nerf instead of actual ingame skill for ppl to take it off them.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:09:00 - [41] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: maralt Unfortunately it can get a bit repetitive when ppl insist on posting the same misleading bll s*t over and over again. Of course if you have any facts or evidence to prove me wrong please go ahead and post it but the figures and numbers involved are well documented and certainly not misleading like that map. Learn to accept that others are allowed to have different opinions than you.. Ppl accept an arguement or they dont.. repeating it again and again wont make them accept it any more.. and yes, the same arguement applies to them as much as you... I more than willing to accept that ppl are entitled to a different opinion than mine but i also feel that deliberate lies and misleading comments should be corrected.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:26:00 - [42] Originally by: Spike Spiegle Well stop posting Maralt and people wouldnt have to keep correcting you I do not see any posts on here correcting me although i see a few misleading posts i have corrected.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:36:00 - [43] Originally by: Yorda Originally by: maralt Originally by: Thomina Yorke Originally by: maralt Only if they nap most of eve. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/crii/20.06.109.jpg Its amazing isn't it that BOB and allies could hold all that space while outnumbered 3-1 by the coalition or did you have some other point of posting that map?. It makes me laugh that you and others pull out that map every time you want ppl to think BOB outnumbered or was not outnumbered its the worst and most used piece of misleading propaganda the coalition has. This is your best post. No seriously, how can you be this stupid? Ho can you be so stupid not to check facts before claiming knowledge?. Coalition - 26,413 pilots BoB side - 12,155 pilots Now the figures change a bit depending on the exact date but between 2-1 and 3-1 or more is the best odds BOB had against the coalition ever.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:48:00 - [44] Edited by: maralt on 16/03/2008 22:49:14 Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam We don't want you! I do not have any carebear alt's and i hear you boot all the good pvp corps from razor, so sori bud even if you could afford me id never join ppl who run from a fight and hide in others space.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.16 23:09:00 - [45] Edited by: maralt on 16/03/2008 23:11:41 Originally by: Omeega I Ive highlighted and isolated the part of your post that makes it totally irrelevant and unimportant to me. Interesting that a debate on the war can turn so personal for some that they need to resort to personal insults though, maybe its you guys who need a woman now and again.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.16 23:16:00 - [46] Originally by: Omeega blah blah Do try to stay on topic old chap, we were talking about the war btw.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.16 23:30:00 - [47] Edited by: maralt on 16/03/2008 23:32:14 Originally by: Omeega Old chap? You know nothing about the current conflict. Nothing about the political issues, military issues, who controls who, who's where. Still you come here and continue to desperately seek for some attention, whining about numbers and throwing random baits and trolls. I prefer having to support DBPs or Dianabolics rantings than having to see your exclamation mark face. Whoaa chill a bit dear boy theres a lot of temperature in your post fella. And if you think i'm looking for attention perhaps you should stfu and not reply to me with venom filled angry rants full of personal insults. Why don't you try to post actual reports or perhaps even get into a polite but heated debate now and again after all this is a forum and blasting insults and ranting on at ppl for treating it as such makes you look like a total nutter.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.17 00:38:00 - [48] Edited by: maralt on 17/03/2008 00:43:25 Originally by: Omeega Old chap? You know nothing about the current conflict. Nothing about the political issues, military issues, who controls who, who's where. It's not even the fact that you don't know crap, it's the fact that you don't want to admit that you're clueless. Still you come here and continue to desperatly seek for some attention, whining about numbers and throwing random baits and trolls. I prefer having to support DBPs or Dianabolics rantings than having to see your exclamation mark face. Originally by: maralt Whoaa chill a bit dear boy theres a lot of temperature in your post fella. And if you think i'm looking for attention perhaps you should stfu and not reply to me with venom filled angry rants full of personal insults. Why don't you try to post actual reports or perhaps even get into a polite but heated debate now and again after all this is a forum and blasting insults and ranting on at ppl for treating it as such makes you look like a total nutter. Originally by: Omeega Please, try to re-read my post, I know my grammar is terrible but I've tried to be the clearest possible, avoiding personnal attacks and "little-power-e-fists-shaking" what you obviousely failed to do. That will be it for me, thanks for your time. Maybe you should stay on topic and post your opinions on the war even if they disagree with mine or others because as soon as you start posting your negative opinions on a persons personality or reasons for their postings you are making personal attack. Now if you disagree with some of my facts or figures by all means join the debate and add your own too prove me wrong, but do not turn up with a mouth full of insults and claims that i know nothing while adding nothing in way of proof or counter facts to the discussion to prove your rude claims. Ive added your insulting post above to show you how it had zero content as far as details or proof is concerned but was full of claims of knowledge and accusations of my lack of such. Simply put id say you need to back up your claims of knowledge that proves me wrong or stfu.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.17 00:50:00 - [49] Originally by: General Windypops Dear Goons, Your problem is that you lost the GoonBrand 'Laffo' chilled-outness when you showed through your posts how serious and bitter you guys are - Goonfleet are no different from any other alliance these days. Even your posts aren't funny anymore. Your problem is that you lost the ability to claim 'noobness' years ago but you haven't realised it yet. You're not able to risk the same calibre of ships as BoB but you still whine on the forums that you should be able to beat them, which just makes you look childish, amateurish, and cowardly. Your problem is that you lost the morale game when you spammed the forums so over-excitedly when BoB decided to take a tactical retreat back to Delve. You inundated the forums with gleeful promises of instant victory. The reality is that it was a great tactical move, and it forced you into a situation where you showed you didn't have the calibre of pilots to finish what you promised to publicly. In fact, BoB have nuked capital ship after capital ship with minimal losses while your coalition falls apart. Your problem is that you lost the 'BoB treated its allies sooo badly' advantage when you cringingly applauded every one of RA's bulldozer diplomacy attacks on your former Coalition. You became one of the puppets you claimed to 'loathe', and showed that you don't have a shred of loyalty. Your problem is that you lost. /me point HA HA (Hint - insert 'Windyprops - your problem is....' meme below, Goonies) What he said...
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.17 01:13:00 - [50] I suppose the DMC thing among other betrayals by the larger members of the coalition will be mentioned quite a lot although i doubt they will be dragged up as much as you guys do the BOB pet issues, Hippocracy much?. So you have gone from wanting to push BOB out of NOL and 0.0 to claim victory, to hoping that they will not being able to push you out of QY6?. Is that not going backwards?.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.17 01:28:00 - [51] Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: maralt I suppose the DMC thing among other betrayals by the larger members of the coalition will be mentioned quite a lot although i doubt they will be dragged up as much as you guys do the BOB pet issues, Hippocracy much?. So you have gone from wanting to push BOB out of NOL and 0.0 to claim victory, to hoping that they will not being able to push you out of QY6?. Is that not going backwards?. It's understandable to be honest. I don't think Goonfleet have achieved a single victory in weeks now. They've lost the combat backbone of the Coalition, and my guess is that RA's last instructions to Gloomfleet were to blobcamp QY6. From that point of view, at least, I guess Goons are doing what they're told, so props for that. It smacks of desperation if you ask me buddy i mean they called BOB's first little foray into QY6 the "start of a massive invasion and big push out" and claimed it as a massive victory when they really only broke even (and they had home advantage). They seem to be having a hard time coming to terms with the fact that without the rest of the coalition around to do the job for them they are being made to look like a bunch of incompetent amateurs (in other words exactly what they are).
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.17 01:30:00 - [52] Edited by: maralt on 17/03/2008 01:33:06 Originally by: Thomina Yorke Huh? The game mechanics make it too easy for the defender to entirely stonewall the attacking party. You should ask BoB about to four or so times they've formed up this week to take down the jammer with a fleet of like 70-80 battleships, only to disperse because we had a fleet of 50 people and eight carriers ready to defend. The game is imbalanced and CCP recognized it before this stalemate got underway. Kinda makes your challenge for them to take QY6 rather hollow then doesn't it?. Still at least they are trying instead of posting on the forums about wanting to take NOL before the nerf (proly for future referance, transparant much) but in reality having no intention of doing anything until the nerf has been done.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.17 01:39:00 - [53] Originally by: Lecnor Originally by: maralt Originally by: Thomina Yorke Huh? The game mechanics make it too easy for the defender to entirely stonewall the attacking party. You should ask BoB about to four or so times they've formed up this week to take down the jammer with a fleet of like 70-80 battleships, only to disperse because we had a fleet of 50 people and eight carriers ready to defend. The game is imbalanced and CCP recognized it before this stalemate got underway. Kinda makes you challenge for them to take QY6 rather hollow then doesn't it?. Still at least they are trying instead of posting on the forums about wanting to take NOL before the nerf (proly for future referance, transparant much) but in reality having no intention of doing anything until the nerf has been done. zero content or detail Thanks for you input pal.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.17 09:56:00 - [54] Originally by: Thomina Yorke Originally by: maralt Kinda makes your challenge for them to take QY6 rather hollow then doesn't it?. Kinda makes their "victory" over the Allies rather hollow doesn't it? huh?. Never mind as i'm sure you make sense, unfortunately only to yourself.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.18 09:33:00 - [55] Originally by: Dangerously Cheesey Originally by: Post Originally by: Theramin Dogon Originally by: SirMolle K-6 5 GOON towers dead F-T 15 GOON towers, 10 killed as of this post, rest reinforced, coming out sunday night/monday morning J-L 16 GOON towers killed Where did all these goons come from? One minute there are no goons, then suddenly they've got dozens of towers up in Delve! LOL! I wonder why goon leadership doesn't post masturbatory crap like this on Eve-O. Maybe it's because goons don't need morale boosts? Or maybe because you haven't killed anything, even poses, for weeks. Only cause you guys won't jump into QY6 :( I thought you guys were on the offensive and looking to dine in NOL, or was that when you had the coalition around to do the fighting for you?.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.18 10:09:00 - [56] Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: maralt I thought you guys were on the offensive and looking to dine in NOL, or was that when you had the coalition around to do the fighting for you?. How can we fight for ourselves when we dont exist? Do you always drag that old number out of the closet every time you do not have an answer to summat cos i think you over use it tbqh.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.18 10:31:00 - [57] Edited by: maralt on 18/03/2008 10:35:58 Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: maralt I thought you guys were on the offensive and looking to dine in NOL, or was that when you had the coalition around to do the fighting for you?. Do you always drag that old number out of the closet every time you do not have an answer to summat cos i think you over use it tbqh. Old?. It was only a month or so ago bud while your little "there are no goons" posting was from years ago get a grip man. Is the best you can do to plagiarize my posts, i know i'm good but perhaps you should take your 5000+ allies and do something post worthy instead of copying my lines.

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