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Brutus Colbert	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:08:00 - [1] Is there any reason that he is using a dreadnought for mining? is this ship in any way better than a hulk or mach for this purpose? what i mean is, does the dreadnought have enough grid/cpu to fit stripminers etc, without the bonus to fittingrequirements that hulks and other mining ships get? a last question, does the revelation have more than 3 hardpoints to fit mininglasers to? (a very nice argument would be the respectable cargohold...) but i think that the hulk has a simular capacity if one does not account for 8 cargoexpanders... :) then again. if i could mine in a dreadnought, i as i imagine a very large proportion of all of you, would most certainly do it just for the hell of it. ^^
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:09:00 - [2] Why, you ask? Because he can. Yep, that's it actually. ---------------- Tarminic - 33 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.79
Frug Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:10:00 - [3] Without knowing anything about cap ships or mining ships, and without checking, I'm going to guess that it has something to do with cargo capacity. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Barbens Harvale Reclaiming Services	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:10:00 - [4] You should start a convo with chribba to be sure, hes actually a pretty cool guy. But i think he does it, as has just been said, because he can. Not to mentiont he huge cargo hold and the cool factor of a dread in high sec :) BaRbEnS
Del Narveux Dukes of Hazard	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:11:00 - [5] Style > Substance. If I was Chribba, I'd be mining veldspar with a dred too. _________________ [IMAGE REMOVED] -- aka Cpt Bogus -- Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
Apul MadeekAoud Clandestine Interstellar Solutions Sempiternus	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:13:00 - [6] Originally by: Barbens You should start a convo with chribba to be sure, hes actually a pretty cool guy. But i think he does it, as has just been said, because he can. Not to mentiont he huge cargo hold and the cool factor of a dread in high sec :) BaRbEnS caps cant go into hi-sec ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Assmodean Amarr 23rd Prime Element	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:14:00 - [7] Originally by: Apul MadeekAoud Originally by: Barbens You should start a convo with chribba to be sure, hes actually a pretty cool guy. But i think he does it, as has just been said, because he can. Not to mentiont he huge cargo hold and the cool factor of a dread in high sec :) BaRbEnS caps cant go into hi-sec chribbas was built there if i understand correctly, and is infact the only capital in high-sec.. and yes. ofc one would mine in a dread in highsec if one could... :) sig coming soon...
skuko Caldari	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:16:00 - [8] Originally by: Apul MadeekAoud Originally by: Barbens You should start a convo with chribba to be sure, hes actually a pretty cool guy. But i think he does it, as has just been said, because he can. Not to mentiont he huge cargo hold and the cool factor of a dread in high sec :) BaRbEnS caps cant go into hi-sec with the exception of chribba's veldnaught... :)
Haloxx	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:16:00 - [9] Originally by: Apul MadeekAoud caps cant go into hi-sec True that they can't go into Hi-Sec but what if you were to build one in a hi-sec system and never jump? That's right...
Barbens Harvale Reclaiming Services	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:18:00 - [10] Originally by: Apul MadeekAoud Originally by: Barbens You should start a convo with chribba to be sure, hes actually a pretty cool guy. But i think he does it, as has just been said, because he can. Not to mentiont he huge cargo hold and the cool factor of a dread in high sec :) BaRbEnS caps cant go into hi-sec That is correct, however over a year ago, capital ships could be built in High sec. Chribba's is one of the few Caps still left in high sec. If i remember correctly, he might have more than one dread in high sec. BaRbEnS

Bronson Hughes Knights of the Wild Visions of Warfare	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:19:00 - [11] Originally by: Assmodean and is infact the only capital in high-sec.. I think that there may be one or two others, but none are as infamous as the Veldnought. And there is at least one other reason to mine in a Dreadnought in HiSec: you're pretty much immune to suicide gankers. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne
Stern Maxwell Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:20:00 - [12] You can't fit Strip Miners on it, so I'm guessing 3 Miner II's. ___________________________________________
Assmodean Amarr 23rd Prime Element	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:25:00 - [13] Originally by: Bronson Hughes Originally by: Assmodean and is infact the only capital in high-sec.. I think that there may be one or two others, but none are as infamous as the Veldnought. And there is at least one other reason to mine in a Dreadnought in HiSec: you're pretty much immune to suicide gankers. yeah, gankers should really dont bother... i wonder how much it would acually take to instapop a dreadnought... lets assume he is using 8 expanders II in is lows. this means that the ship is completly without a tank, but it is still 343750 shield/armor hp to chew away. (not counting resists) + th structure is not counted in there either... anyone have an estimate of how many ships and what class would be needed to achieve this? :) sig coming soon...
Aprudena Gist Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:29:00 - [14] Originally by: Assmodean Originally by: Bronson Hughes Originally by: Assmodean and is infact the only capital in high-sec.. I think that there may be one or two others, but none are as infamous as the Veldnought. And there is at least one other reason to mine in a Dreadnought in HiSec: you're pretty much immune to suicide gankers. yeah, gankers should really dont bother... i wonder how much it would acually take to instapop a dreadnought... lets assume he is using 8 expanders II in is lows. this means that the ship is completly without a tank, but it is still 343750 shield/armor hp to chew away. (not counting resists) + th structure is not counted in there either... anyone have an estimate of how many ships and what class would be needed to achieve this? :) i belive it was calculated at 125 1400 II tempests.
Stern Maxwell Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:30:00 - [15] Originally by: Assmodean Originally by: Bronson Hughes Originally by: Assmodean and is infact the only capital in high-sec.. I think that there may be one or two others, but none are as infamous as the Veldnought. And there is at least one other reason to mine in a Dreadnought in HiSec: you're pretty much immune to suicide gankers. yeah, gankers should really dont bother... i wonder how much it would acually take to instapop a dreadnought... lets assume he is using 8 expanders II in is lows. this means that the ship is completly without a tank, but it is still 343750 shield/armor hp to chew away. (not counting resists) + th structure is not counted in there either... anyone have an estimate of how many ships and what class would be needed to achieve this? :) To instapop this, I think it would take more suicide torp ravens that a single solar system could support. ___________________________________________
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:32:00 - [16] Figures the Goons would have that number handy. Better watch out Chribba if local blows up. Originally by: Stern Maxwell You can't fit Strip Miners on it, so I'm guessing 3 Miner II's. Modulated Deep Core Miner II AFAIK. --------------------- Q: WTF! Why?! A: Because I can. ---------------------

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:36:00 - [17] Linkage Secure 3rd party service ■ Do you Veldspar?

Bronson Hughes Knights of the Wild Visions of Warfare	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:39:00 - [18] 181 ships? Good gawd man, are you planning on taking over Amarr single-handedly? -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne
Assmodean Amarr 23rd Prime Element	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:46:00 - [19] Originally by: Chribba Linkage that is a serious cargohold... has anyone ever tried to kill you? sig coming soon...
Freya Runestone Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:52:00 - [20] Edited by: Freya Runestone on 10/03/2008 15:52:25 Originally by: Assmodean Originally by: Chribba Linkage that is a serious cargohold... has anyone ever tried to kill you? I would assume a lot have tried. doubt anyone will succeed.

Bish Ounen Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:56:00 - [21] Originally by: Chribba Linkage What the heck is that item in the 4th high-slot? It looks like a sensor booster or a sensor backup array, but those are Mid-slot mods.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.03.10 15:57:00 - [22] Its an auto-targeter. --------------------- Q: WTF! Why?! A: Because I can. ---------------------
Thenoran Caldari The People's Liberation Army	Posted - 2008.03.10 16:01:00 - [23] Originally by: Bish Ounen Originally by: Chribba Linkage What the heck is that item in the 4th high-slot? It looks like a sensor booster or a sensor backup array, but those are Mid-slot mods. Automated Targeting System, allows for more targets to be locked (rats & roids) ------------------------ Mining over 4000m3 per cycle...with a Rokh
Althea Nar'agh StarHunt Fallout Project	Posted - 2008.03.10 16:08:00 - [24] Originally by: Apul MadeekAoud Originally by: Barbens You should start a convo with chribba to be sure, hes actually a pretty cool guy. But i think he does it, as has just been said, because he can. Not to mentiont he huge cargo hold and the cool factor of a dread in high sec :) BaRbEnS caps cant go into hi-sec wow... just wow! War. War never changes. Training Monitor / iMonitor / iCEO iPOS iHelp
Celot GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.10 16:37:00 - [25] Edited by: Celot on 10/03/2008 16:37:31 128 t1 tempests would alpha his veldnought
Thedorick Avudyis New Eden Heavy Industries	Posted - 2008.03.10 16:43:00 - [26] Edited by: Thedorick Avudyis on 10/03/2008 16:44:13 I had the pleasure of seeing Chribba and his Veldnought the other day. I took this screeny for anyone that doesn't know what a mining laser looks like when it's fitted to a dreadnought: Link
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.03.10 16:50:00 - [27] Originally by: Thedorick Avudyis Edited by: Thedorick Avudyis on 10/03/2008 16:44:13 I had the pleasure of seeing Chribba and his Veldnought the other day. I took this screeny for anyone that doesn't know what a mining laser looks like when it's fitted to a dreadnought: Link Awesome. ---------------- Tarminic - 33 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.79
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.10 16:53:00 - [28] Seige mode should apply to mining lasers imho. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.10 16:53:00 - [29] Howmuch torpravens would it take to kill that naught?
Ralara Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.10 17:08:00 - [30] Originally by: Celot Edited by: Celot on 10/03/2008 16:37:31 128 t1 tempests would alpha his veldnought I dare goonswarm... -- Ralara / Ralarina

Celot GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.10 17:10:00 - [31] Originally by: Sokratesz Howmuch torpravens would it take to kill that naught? my numbers were off. 192 max skilled t1 torp ravens 206 max skilled t1 tempests 160 max skilled t1 blasterthrons (assuming you can get 2 shots off) 180 max skilled smartbombing armageddons, if you can get 2 shots off (this is logically impossible)
Kaaii Caldari PixelJuice Design Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.03.10 17:11:00 - [32] Originally by: Assmodean Originally by: Apul MadeekAoud Originally by: Barbens You should start a convo with chribba to be sure, hes actually a pretty cool guy. But i think he does it, as has just been said, because he can. Not to mentiont he huge cargo hold and the cool factor of a dread in high sec :) BaRbEnS caps cant go into hi-sec chribbas was built there if i understand correctly, and is infact the only capital in high-sec.. and yes. ofc one would mine in a dread in highsec if one could... :) I don't think this means what you say it means.... Some of the few remaining dreads built pre-rev, LSAA removal in high sec, pilots, prefer to keep them a little less conspicuous.... I'm just saying.. According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
couger malthas Amarr LEGI0N	Posted - 2008.03.10 17:18:00 - [33] Originally by: Celot Originally by: Sokratesz Howmuch torpravens would it take to kill that naught? my numbers were off. 192 max skilled t1 torp ravens 206 max skilled t1 tempests 160 max skilled t1 blasterthrons (assuming you can get 2 shots off) 180 max skilled smartbombing armageddons, if you can get 2 shots off (this is logically impossible) you mean t1 fit? as in t1 1400's and what not? and with the numbers you are saying eve would save that dread... one word "lag" _______________________________________________
Hafsteinn Oskar1 Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.03.10 17:18:00 - [34] Theres a Sobaseki Phoenix and a Irjunen Chimera.. I was aware of an Airaken Thanatos but not sure its still there.
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.03.10 17:22:00 - [35] Originally by: couger malthas Originally by: Celot Originally by: Sokratesz Howmuch torpravens would it take to kill that naught? my numbers were off. 192 max skilled t1 torp ravens 206 max skilled t1 tempests 160 max skilled t1 blasterthrons (assuming you can get 2 shots off) 180 max skilled smartbombing armageddons, if you can get 2 shots off (this is logically impossible) you mean t1 fit? as in t1 1400's and what not? and with the numbers you are saying eve would save that dread... one word "lag" Lag or no, if 200 battleships warp to 0 on a dread, there's no way that it'll ever align before those battleships lock and open fire. ---------------- Tarminic - 33 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.79
couger malthas Amarr LEGI0N	Posted - 2008.03.10 17:27:00 - [36] well we will have to see now wont we, i personly dont think it can be done. Say 50 people each get a volly off, you will have concord so far up there ass they will think there in a bath house, and it just might crash the node, inturn saving the dread. _______________________________________________

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2008.03.10 17:29:00 - [37] There are probably plenty in 0.5-0.7 (as I have a whole rack in those regions as well). But like previous poster said, there's a Phoenix in Sobaseki (0.8) and there's mine in Amarr (1.0). Apart from those two there are (to my knowledge) no capitals in 0.8 or higher. Secure 3rd party service ■ Do you Veldspar?

Celot GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.10 17:29:00 - [38] Originally by: couger malthas well we will have to see now wont we, i personly dont think it can be done. Say 50 people each get a volly off, you will have concord so far up there ass they will think there in a bath house, and it just might crash the node, inturn saving the dread. I think you would run into trouble with the local spike accompanied by 200 goons jumping in at once
Kaaii Caldari PixelJuice Design Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.03.10 17:42:00 - [39] Originally by: Celot Originally by: couger malthas well we will have to see now wont we, i personly dont think it can be done. Say 50 people each get a volly off, you will have concord so far up there ass they will think there in a bath house, and it just might crash the node, inturn saving the dread. I think you would run into trouble with the local spike accompanied by 200 goons jumping in at once Thousands of deaths and you haven't learned a thing, have ya....? According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.03.10 18:08:00 - [40] Originally by: Kaaii Originally by: Celot Originally by: couger malthas well we will have to see now wont we, i personly dont think it can be done. Say 50 people each get a volly off, you will have concord so far up there ass they will think there in a bath house, and it just might crash the node, inturn saving the dread. I think you would run into trouble with the local spike accompanied by 200 goons jumping in at once Thousands of deaths and you haven't learned a thing, have ya....? Nah, real trouble wouldn't begin until the shots started flying. ---------------- Tarminic - 33 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.79

000Hunter000 Gallente Missiles 'R' Us	Posted - 2008.03.10 18:25:00 - [41] For the Makers sake, don't give the goonies any ideas! _______________________________________________________ CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
Grendelsbane	Posted - 2008.03.10 18:38:00 - [42] Heh. I've been around Amarr on work lately, and the only thing I've ever seen him in is a shuttle. However, I am reminded of the 800 pound gorilla; Q: What does a dread in hisec do? A: Whatever the hell it wants to.
Bianca Danan Minmatar This Space 4 Rent	Posted - 2008.03.10 18:45:00 - [43] And what would CONCORD do ?
Minsc Gallente A.W.M Soul of Fountain	Posted - 2008.03.10 18:49:00 - [44] And even more importantly....what would Brian Boytano do? Originally by: Sharkbait please for the love of god read the dam stickies
Dictum Factum Gemini Sun	Posted - 2008.03.10 19:30:00 - [45] Originally by: Minsc And even more importantly....what would Brian Boytano do? This. I know less than you think I do.
Meirre K'Tun Helios Incorporated Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.10 19:32:00 - [46] Edited by: Meirre K''Tun on 10/03/2008 19:31:57 wouldn't a ming laser upgrade in stead of one of the cargo expanders more efficient? or do they not work with the lasers you use? or are you just afk-mining all day?
Thenoran Caldari The People's Liberation Army	Posted - 2008.03.10 19:41:00 - [47] Even with 8 MLU II's, and the best possible skills (Mining V, Astrogeology V, Modulated Deep Core Miner II's with Crystals), you would only get: 120m3 * 1.75 (Crystal) = 210m3 210m3 * 3 slots = 630m3 630 * 1.25 (Mining V) * 1.25 (Astrogeology V) = 984.38m3 984.38 * 1.09^8 = 1961.42m3 per 3min cycle. My Rokh mines twice that and is just as safe from gankers, though not as unique or big ------------------------ Mining over 4000m3 per cycle...with a Rokh
D'ceet Shadows of the Dead The Dawn of Darkness	Posted - 2008.03.10 20:26:00 - [48] Chribba, your my new hero. it is my new goal to mine with you one day.


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