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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 01:53:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:Weaselior wrote: The Mittani, King of Space, is the best-known advocate for a technetium nerf. Technetium, for those who are unaware, currently produces approximately 718 billion isk per month for goonswarm, yet The Mittani has advocated for its nerf at every turn due to the poor effect it has had on game balance. The Mittani has had the chance to advocate for Goonswarm's financial interests at the expense of the game, and has not taken it. The Mittani is the only candidate who has passed such a test.
You are certainly living up to your name Weasel. Sure, The Goons hold a lot of Tech, generating huge income. And yes, The Mittani wants tech nerfed. But The Mittani does not want Tech nerfed because "it has a poor effect it on game balance". Thats laughable. He wants it nerfed because his in-game enemies has even more tech income. That income translates to finanical muscle to purchase - among other things - supercaps (another of Mittanis favorite nerf objectives). And since Goonswarm is unable to take all this tech by force, the strategic imbalance between CFC and Team Tech grows every day. So, what naturally follows from this situation is Goon two main stratetic objectives - nerf tech income and (preferably) nerf subercaps into oblivion. Sure it will hit Goonswarm hard as well, but it will free them to capitilize on their biggest assets, their numbers. A double nerf (tech + supers) will hit team tech far harder - setting the stage for Goon dominance later on. Also, since this stratgy actually hurts Goons, you can capitalize on it in your propaganda war. Which is what you are doing here.
hi,
we've been campaigning for a tech nerf long before our enemies ever held a substantial amount of it
even if you're right, which you're not, the motivation is irrelevant because tech IS imbalanced, moron yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 02:00:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:Andski wrote: hi,
we've been campaigning for a tech nerf long before our enemies ever held a substantial amount of it
even if you're right, which you're not, the motivation is irrelevant because tech IS imbalanced, moron
Got any proof, Moron?
i'm not going to dig through pages of forum archives for you when you're the one asserting some bullshit tinfoil theory about the ~real motivation~ behind our campaign to nerf technetium
also your supposed motivation makes absolutely no sense yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 02:10:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:Andski wrote:Reilly Duvolle wrote:Andski wrote: hi,
we've been campaigning for a tech nerf long before our enemies ever held a substantial amount of it
even if you're right, which you're not, the motivation is irrelevant because tech IS imbalanced, moron
Got any proof, Moron? i'm not going to dig through pages of forum archives for you when you're the one asserting some bullshit tinfoil theory about the ~real motivation~ behind our campaign to nerf technetium also your supposed motivation makes absolutely no sense I guess the burden of proof must only apply to those that question your real motivations, and not you that make these claims. Too funny.
You're correct, the burden of proof does not lie with those who question your real motivations. It lies with those who do that and assert an ulterior motive. yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 02:16:00 -
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we get it, the mean goonies touched you in a bad place and you're bitter about it
let's face it though your assertions make no sense yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 02:56:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:Anyone with basic reading comprehension, looking at Kugu and Dotlan, can put together a reasonably good map proving my point.
I cannot do it, because I am "biased". If I did, and posted my findings, the Goon propaganda machine would still find ways to discredit it.
But the data is there, for anyone interested in the thruth.
fyi, there is way more tech in venal than in some northern sov regions combined
also, i pity you if you take anything on kugu with more than a grain of salt
and if you think that the moon data on dotlan is anywhere near accurate, i have a bridgetitan to sell you yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 03:35:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:Andski wrote:Reilly Duvolle wrote:Anyone with basic reading comprehension, looking at Kugu and Dotlan, can put together a reasonably good map proving my point.
I cannot do it, because I am "biased". If I did, and posted my findings, the Goon propaganda machine would still find ways to discredit it.
But the data is there, for anyone interested in the thruth. fyi, there is way more tech in venal than in some northern sov regions combined also, i pity you if you take anything on kugu with more than a grain of salt and if you think that the moon data on dotlan is anywhere near accurate, i have a bridgetitan to sell you getting nervous allready are you?
my post clearly showed no end of anxiety from what is obviously my impending defeat to well-known good poster Reilly Duvolle, the roleplayer who has horrible sources and draws conclusions without evidence
now stop dodging my question because you look dumb, or at least admit that I cornered you yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 04:31:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:Weaselior wrote:Reilly Duvolle wrote: Moreover, the Tech moons especially in Venal, Tribute and Vale is of better quality than the ones in Deklein and Pure Blind - producing more Tech per moon. Pardon? Excuse me. Capable of producing more tech per moon. Not necessarly doing so.
hi
you can't squeeze out more than 100 units of goo per hour from any moon at all whatsoever
just discrediting a terribly uninformed ~iNvEsTigAtOr~ yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 04:36:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:It looks to me that team Tech holds over 90 Tech moons, and if you take quality into consideration their advantage over the Goons looks to be about 1,5:1.
fyi the CFC as a whole has more than that and I doubt your figure is at all accurate because lol, dotlan yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 04:58:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:I provided you with numbers. Goons will do anything to discredit them, no surprise there. Dotlan has certainly been used, but verivied by other sources.
Look at it in any way you like: Team Tech currently holds more moons that CFC, and has done so for at least 9 months.
Now you can belive this or not. You can make your own investigations - or not. People will belive what they want to belive anyways.
I am done.
we don't give a **** if "Team Tech" holds more moons because the two alliances that hold the lion's share of those moons are not committed in the current hostilities, and goddamn GSF alone has 700b+ in monthly tech income, why would we care when that's easily 10 titans a month plus enough ISK to reimburse subcapital fleet losses and keep a warchest growing so that we don't totally spiral into the ground after the inevitable tech nerf
the CSM delegates aligned with ~Team Tech~ support nerfing technetium - Elise stated his support for extending alchemy to tech and neo and I doubt he has retracted on his position - there is no reason for that. Same with Seleene.
basically what I'm saying is that you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about
yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 05:04:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:Andski wrote: we don't give a **** if "Team Tech" holds more moons
Ah. Now its unimportant. I see
you are the only person in this discussion who has suggested that any side holding more moons has relevance in this discussion, oops
and thanks for totally glossing over every other point I made in that post, confirming that you are a bleating moron yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 05:20:00 -
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smokeAjoint wrote:won't vote for people that don't have my intrests at hard like 0.sec dwellers that wanted high end ore's out of worm holes and have sometyhing like a worm hole stabalizer cous they can't fight without a1000 men blob
my vote goes to a worm hole dweller so probebly two step gets my vote
As far as I know, the whole ABCs in wormholes thing was based on bad data (and has not been discussed since) and none of the nullsec CSMs were involved in the stabilizer thing.
Two Step is a great guy and he deserves your vote, but let's just get your misconceptions out of the way! yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 05:26:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:Yes. I am the only one in this thread that has openly questioned your motivation for wanting to nerf tech (and supercaps). One point I made was that while a tech nerf was going to hurt the Goons, it would hurt your enemies more.
I was challenged to provide any substance to this claim. I provided substance. You yourself admit that Team Tech hold more tech than CFC.
But this only confirms that my theory can be true, not that it is true.
I dont think you want to destroy the game. As a Goon so eloquently put it on Fanfest: "The Goons are not here to destroy the game. We are here to destroy your (as in everybody elses) game"
I'll let people make their own conclusions.
You seem to have glossed over this part:
Andski wrote:the CSM delegates aligned with ~Team Tech~ support nerfing technetium - Elise stated his support for extending alchemy to tech and neo and I doubt he has retracted on his position - there is no reason for that. Same with Seleene.
I'm not quoting anybody out of context - I linked the threads where they mentioned these things. You're digging into the obttom of the barrel and bringing up something that Darius JOHNSON, now known as CCP Sreegs, said at some fanfest several years ago - you are really grasping at straws here.
Again, you're only bleating. baaaaaaa, baaaaaaa yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 05:30:00 -
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ILikeMarkets wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:Reilly Duvolle wrote:Weaselior wrote: And while none of the members of the CFC own as many tech moons as Goonswarm, they do own more than 23 total. masterfully placed lie there buddy lol your and idiot #Learn Goon Speak, lesson 1 If (user == "Intelligent Person" && phrase == "You are an idiot") ___say<<"You're an idiot" if (user == "Goonswarm Member" && phrase == "You are an idiot") ___say<<"your and idiot"
if (userIsPubbie()) correctObviousIronicGrammaticalError(); yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 05:32:00 -
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still glossing over the one point I emphasized
baaaaaaaaa, baaaaaaaa yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 05:39:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:Andski wrote:still glossing over the one point I emphasized
baaaaaaaaa, baaaaaaaa Again, I am questioning the Goons motivation for wanting to nerf tech. It is undeniably in your best strategic interest to do so, given the current situation. That you have managed to persuade others to follow suit is all well and good. But dont tell me you do it "for the good of the game" You do it for the good of the Goons.
Andski wrote:the CSM delegates aligned with ~Team Tech~ support nerfing technetium - Elise stated his support for extending alchemy to tech and neo and I doubt he has retracted on his position - there is no reason for that. Same with Seleene.
let me try to reduce that to a syllable count suitable for your reading level:
the "team tech" CSMs support a tech nerf yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 06:40:00 -
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you're arguing with a forum alt with a signature that says "Griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems." yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 07:02:00 -
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for what it's worth, most of the current tech-holding alliances do not nationalize the moons like GSF does - they are mostly extracted at the corp/personal level. in our current state, we'd most likely be hit harder by the inevitable tech nerf than anybody else.
hope that helps! yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 07:31:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:But to answer you question directly: had the tables been reversed, with tech and supercap superiority on the Goon side last spring, you can bet that none of these issues had been very high on the CSM agenda with the Mittani as CSM Chairman.
Like when we were blue to the NC and their near-monopoly on tech and massive supercapital fleet? yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 07:36:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:Andski wrote:
Like when we were blue to the NC and their near-monopoly on tech and massive supercapital fleet?
Yes. When you and NC were pals and ruled the North, neither Tech nor Supers was a problem, was it?
Considering that we loudly advocated nerfing both long before the NC lost the north, you're wrong on that count!
again, baaaaaa, baaaaaa yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 07:44:00 -
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2010 yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 07:50:00 -
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http://eve-search.com/thread/1434296-0/page/1
owning bleating pubbies erryday yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 07:58:00 -
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Jita Alt666 wrote:Your own logic argues for it. For a large portion of 2010 GSF was a deadbeat alliance in Syndicate. Of course it would be in their interest to argue that Tech needed to be nerfed - cause they had none - wait maybe they stole a moon or two off of Evoke? At that point GSF : "Team Tech" ratios would have been about 2:180 Actually it makes more sense that they argued for the nerfing of Tech then than it does now.
whoa don't dis LODRA yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 09:16:00 -
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let me explain why you're an idiot
- you think that PL/raiden/ncdot would not simply shrug off a tech nerf considering that they have a lot of old money - you think that there are tech moons that pump out more tech per hour than other moons - you actually use dotlan, kugu and evenews24 as sources - you have been called out on all of these and you do nothing but deflect
pubbies are hilarious yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 17:15:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:Yeah... Its quite the sewer. You must be the pride of Goonswarm Andski.
But I am curious though. Does you mum know you play internet tough guy?
keep deflecting because we all know you've been hazed
i mean you literally came at us with several totally unsubstantiated assertions, expected us to disprove them without having any of your own evidence and you got thoroughly owned
now, i'm asserting that you beat your wife, disprove it
good day! yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 20:44:00 -
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Jita Alt666 wrote:Please keep demonstrating through deflection of topic that your arguments have been completely destructed. The fact that an individual who posts with such poor grammar, sentence structure and with such disdain for everything you hold dear in life makes it even more emphatic.
poorly my sentences are enstructured indeed yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 23:23:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:You have offered me nothing. You proved that I dont know much abouth the technical side of moon mining. Fine. It doesnt mean I cant count. And as far as this thread is concerned, you admitted to having less techmoons than your opponents so its a pretty moot point.
and that's a moot point because it doesn't prove your assertions
catch up, thanks yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 23:27:00 -
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no you see, the mittani would only be an honest candidate if he supported nerfing anoms, removing jump/titan bridges, buffing supercaps and removing suicide ganking from the game yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 23:28:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:Courthouse wrote:
I don't think you really 'get' how the CSM works. I mean, Hans is running on a lowsec platform, and will likely get on the CSM. He's campaigning on a platform of things that will benefit him. And he's not the only one who's ever done this.
You are really bad at this.
Nice. So you admit to metagaming the CSM then?
Have you stopped beating your wife yet? yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 23:36:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:But yes, it would seem Hans is metagaming it.
that bastard yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.22 01:26:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Educating pubbies ITT?
I imagine it's hard to scan them, what with bees camping all the gates, so I sympathize with the people who uploaded that data.
Gate camps are hardly an obstacle to large-scale moon scanning. The main obstacle is time. That time investment is why accurate moon data is not divulged freely. yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.22 01:33:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:Okay, thank you for illuminating me on this issue.
I took the liberty of rerunning the numbers.
Fade, Branch, Pure blind and Deklein - the area under CFC control - is listed with 76 moons.
That leaves 155 tech moons in the regions not under CFC control
Admittedly different numbers, but it does not change the conclusion now, does it?
oh hey, I'm glad we got the complete inaccuracy of Dotlan's moon data out of the way
oh wait, you're still trying to prove your point with it, lmao yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.22 01:57:00 -
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yeah we're so poor in the CFC with our 1 trillion ISK in monthly income ((
fyi this still begs the question, the "severe imbalance" in tech income we suffer - how is this relevant? the CFC holds a lot more tech today than it did when the entire North was blue - keep that in mind! yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.22 02:42:00 -
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post with your outbreakdot main thanks yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.22 03:12:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:Weaselior wrote:more bullshit. As stated, all evidence presented in this thread suggest you are suffering form a massive tech income inferiority, compared to parties not blue to you. Feel free to post any evidence suggesting otherwise.
compare our income with that of literally everyone else that doesn't hold a ton of technetium
then let's talk about "tech income inferiority" yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.22 04:20:00 -
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Pirokobo wrote:VOTE THE MITTANI OR: HOW THE KITSUNE BECAME USEFUL AND LEARNED TO JAM TITANSWatch it here.
i just realized you're mrchi
it all makes sense now yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.22 05:18:00 -
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no guys we clearly advocate for a tech nerf because it's the Mutually Assured Destruction option (and it really isn't heh) yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.22 16:53:00 -
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High Heel wrote:Why you hate Titans and SuperC's So much? Do they make you angry cause you can't afford them or what is it?
lol you should try leaving empire yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.23 03:23:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:HELIC0N ONE wrote: hey mr CFO the public balance sheet is showing a whole shitton of #VALUE errors, somebody should go fix this tia
Usually that means the price api it relies on is broken temporally, only fix is to wait. the DJ's wallet balances are broken though since I moved what character I keep in that altcorp and haven't figured out how to use vcodes in google docs yet to fix it.
remove the userid, characterid and apikey stuff from the URL, replace with keyid= and vcode= yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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