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Arthur Frayn	Posted - 2008.03.13 19:06:00 - [1] I for one appreciate the vital public service they have provided. CCP have been unable to combat isk sellers in any meaningful way. Now that Goonswarm are(incidentally) doing a fantastic job of it, all people do is complain. If anyone wants to mine highsec ores with a little more safety, they'd run a few level 4's until they hit one with a heap of asteroids. I can't count the number of times I've seen plenty of veld, plag, pyrox and omber roids in missions. Sure you might get scanned down and ganked, but at least you'll be making an effort to survive. -- Eve needs a dose of Top Gun without the sweaty shower scenes.
Malcanis	Posted - 2008.03.13 19:15:00 - [2] You realise, of course, that even suggesting that people should make any effort whatsoever to protect their ships in hi-sec makes you worse than the worst person in history until now. A full list of what this clearly shows about your real-life character would exceed the permitted characters in a single post. Suffice it say that you, sir, will not be looking after any kitten of mine, Not now, not ever. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Celot	Posted - 2008.03.13 19:17:00 - [3] Edited by: Celot on 13/03/2008 19:17:38 you'll get probed out, I guarandamntee it
Xevas	Posted - 2008.03.13 19:18:00 - [4] Originally by: Arthur Frayn How many macrominers have Jihadswarm kindly removed for our benefit? None. If you look at their killboard, you will see that their victims are all valid miners. They've yet to kill a miner named "askjhd" or whatever i see so much of ingame. If anything, they are targeting miners that alt+tab out during cycles. If anything, they are encouraging isk sellers.
Malcanis	Posted - 2008.03.13 19:22:00 - [5] Edited by: Malcanis on 13/03/2008 19:22:18 Originally by: Xevas Originally by: Arthur Frayn How many macrominers have Jihadswarm kindly removed for our benefit? None. If you look at their killboard, you will see that their victims are all valid miners. They've yet to kill a miner named "askjhd" or whatever i see so much of ingame. If anything, they are targeting miners that alt+tab out during cycles. If anything, they are encouraging isk sellers. Yeah although I do feel a bit sorry for that Rex Hargrove guy losing 8 Exhumers in 5 hours. You'd have thought he'd have noticed what was going on around loss #5 or #6... CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.03.13 19:22:00 - [6] They didn't remove a single macro miner. Those just buy a new hulk and continue. They have plenty of farmed isk behind them to keep on mining for a very long time. Those that were the most effected by the goon 'save the roids' action were normal legit miners with limited resources and a limited will to suffer arbitrary punishment. Do not even try to justify the goon activities with macro miner hunting. -------- Ideas for: Mining Clouds
Celot	Posted - 2008.03.13 19:26:00 - [7] the goon campaign to kill macrominers is as bad as counterstrike players who go into a map and shoot everybody it's inexcusable and I will campaign against it
Malcanis	Posted - 2008.03.13 19:26:00 - [8] Originally by: Abrazzar They didn't remove a single macro miner. Those just buy a new hulk and continue. They have plenty of farmed isk behind them to keep on mining for a very long time. Those that were the most effected by the goon 'save the roids' action were normal legit miners with limited resources and a limited will to suffer arbitrary punishment. Do not even try to justify the goon activities with macro miner hunting. I take it jkbvg, lksn, iohre, kojgb, ewipl and kjoejo are all close friends of yours, who are too busy socialising in #minerchan to say much in local? They all lost exhumers on Monday, poor devils. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
JJ Tom	Posted - 2008.03.13 19:26:00 - [9] None. Goons will never fight for the good of anything but their need for laughs. Can't actually blame them but just don't give them any credit either... they are just spoiled brats having fun.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.03.13 19:29:00 - [10] Originally by: Malcanis I take it jkbvg, lksn, iohre, kojgb, ewipl and kjoejo are all close friends of yours, who are too busy socialising in #minerchan to say much in local? They all lost exhumers on Monday, poor devils. Reading comprehension ftl. I said that those macro miners they killed won't be really affected what they're doing, so using them as a justification for what the goons are doing is terminally stupid. -------- Ideas for: Mining Clouds

Hellaciouss	Posted - 2008.03.13 19:30:00 - [11] Edited by: Hellaciouss on 13/03/2008 19:33:00 People still mine? I'll rephrase that; People other then macro miners still mine?
Corstaad	Posted - 2008.03.13 19:33:00 - [12] I had a Hulk parked that I decided to sell out of fear. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Malcanis	Posted - 2008.03.13 19:35:00 - [13] Originally by: Abrazzar Originally by: Malcanis I take it jkbvg, lksn, iohre, kojgb, ewipl and kjoejo are all close friends of yours, who are too busy socialising in #minerchan to say much in local? They all lost exhumers on Monday, poor devils. Reading comprehension ftl. I said that those macro miners they killed won't be really affected what they're doing, so using them as a justification for what the goons are doing is terminally stupid. I dunno, ol' Rex lost a billion ISK yesterday. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Celot	Posted - 2008.03.13 19:38:00 - [14] Edited by: Celot on 13/03/2008 19:39:20 I prefer to kill non macroing hulks that talk in local because then I get to hear them call me names afterward edit: well to be fair it's more fun to kill neutral hulk alts of blues
Arthur Frayn	Posted - 2008.03.13 19:56:00 - [15] Edited by: Arthur Frayn on 13/03/2008 19:57:19 Originally by: Malcanis You realise, of course, that even suggesting that people should make any effort whatsoever to protect their ships in hi-sec makes you worse than the worst person in history until now. A full list of what this clearly shows about your real-life character would exceed the permitted characters in a single post. Suffice it say that you, sir, will not be looking after any kitten of mine, Not now, not ever. I'll take that as a QFT. Everyone decrying this thread is either an alt or an incompetent noob miner. Of course the Goons are killing macros, by virtue of the fact that a significant percentage of highsec miners are macros and the Goons are bound to hit them too. Especially if the isk sellers have been wise enough to name their macros like ordinary players, which I have seen. I've also seen the Jihadswarm youtube videos. Nearly every hulk I've seen killed in those videos continued to mine while being ganked. The victims were either incredibly dense or pre-programmed. I don't care if they don't make a dent in the isk-selling black market. At least they're rattling the cage. -- Eve needs a dose of Top Gun without the sweaty shower scenes.
Rex Hargrove	Posted - 2008.03.13 20:03:00 - [16] Edited by: Rex Hargrove on 13/03/2008 20:06:40 Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Abrazzar Originally by: Malcanis I take it jkbvg, lksn, iohre, kojgb, ewipl and kjoejo are all close friends of yours, who are too busy socialising in #minerchan to say much in local? They all lost exhumers on Monday, poor devils. Reading comprehension ftl. I said that those macro miners they killed won't be really affected what they're doing, so using them as a justification for what the goons are doing is terminally stupid. I dunno, ol' Rex lost a billion ISK yesterday. those are kills, you dope. i'm quite proud of that night
Arthur Frayn	Posted - 2008.03.13 20:07:00 - [17] Originally by: Celot Edited by: Celot on 13/03/2008 19:17:38 you'll get probed out, I guarandamntee it I have to confess, you have yet to catch me. -- Eve needs a dose of Top Gun without the sweaty shower scenes.
Celot	Posted - 2008.03.13 20:09:00 - [18] well the best defense is a pith or gistii a-type shield booster
Rex Hargrove	Posted - 2008.03.13 20:14:00 - [19] Edited by: Rex Hargrove on 13/03/2008 20:14:52 Originally by: Celot well the best defense is a pith or gistii a-type shield booster i couldn't have made any of my kills if they'd had a-types, this is really the best way to let us know you're not a macrominer, because the macroers can't afford to buy a-types for their exhumers
Arthur Frayn	Posted - 2008.03.13 20:16:00 - [20] Originally by: Rex Hargrove Edited by: Rex Hargrove on 13/03/2008 20:14:52 Originally by: Celot well the best defense is a pith or gistii a-type shield booster i couldn't have made any of my kills if they'd had a-types, this is really the best way to let us know you're not a macrominer, because the macroers can't afford to buy a-types for their exhumers Of course, two of you could always fly in and start shooting at the same time. -- Eve needs a dose of Top Gun without the sweaty shower scenes.

Rex Hargrove	Posted - 2008.03.13 20:18:00 - [21] i had to gang up to kill a b-type hulk. i don't think we would have succeeded if it'd been a-type
Malcanis	Posted - 2008.03.13 20:28:00 - [22] Originally by: Rex Hargrove Edited by: Rex Hargrove on 13/03/2008 20:06:40 Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Abrazzar Originally by: Malcanis I take it jkbvg, lksn, iohre, kojgb, ewipl and kjoejo are all close friends of yours, who are too busy socialising in #minerchan to say much in local? They all lost exhumers on Monday, poor devils. Reading comprehension ftl. I said that those macro miners they killed won't be really affected what they're doing, so using them as a justification for what the goons are doing is terminally stupid. I dunno, ol' Rex lost a billion ISK yesterday. those are kills, you dope. i'm quite proud of that night ITT: Mal fails reading. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Arthur Frayn	Posted - 2008.03.13 20:31:00 - [23] I'm surprised nobody has mentioned yet that the few legit miners who are smart enough to survive may have increasing mineral prices to look forward to. The mind boggles. -- Eve needs a dose of Top Gun without the sweaty shower scenes.
Chainsaw Plankton	Posted - 2008.03.13 20:38:00 - [24] Originally by: Rex Hargrove Edited by: Rex Hargrove on 13/03/2008 20:14:52 Originally by: Celot well the best defense is a pith or gistii a-type shield booster i couldn't have made any of my kills if they'd had a-types, this is really the best way to let us know you're not a macrominer, because the macroers can't afford to buy a-types for their exhumers Originally by: Abrazzar They didn't remove a single macro miner. Those just buy a new hulk and continue. They have plenty of farmed isk behind them to keep on mining for a very long time. Those that were the most effected by the goon 'save the roids' action were normal legit miners with limited resources and a limited will to suffer arbitrary punishment. Do not even try to justify the goon activities with macro miner hunting. what!? sooooo..... are the macros poor or faction fit? Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
notdiscostu	Posted - 2008.03.13 20:39:00 - [25] The jihadswarm in highsec are awesome. People need to be reminded that EVE is a harsh universe where you can die and lose your assets and ships at any given second. This is not a universe where people are 100% safe and never has been. If goons popped a couple macro miners, more power to em. If they didn't, more power to em. Either way they're providing a public service by reminding people that they are never safe and should always take precautions. The fact that people like the guy who got suicided 8 times in such a short period of time are too dumb to realize what is going on and try to prevent it, as is extremely easy to due if you're aware of local, your surroundings, and remain vigilant, is no one's fault but their own.
Rex Hargrove	Posted - 2008.03.13 20:43:00 - [26] they're not poor but at the same time it's hard to justify buying an a-type booster for a macroing hulk when that amount of isk could buy you a timecard for another account and almost another hulk, so i can't see them ever going for a-types.
gfldex	Posted - 2008.03.13 20:44:00 - [27] Originally by: Arthur Frayn Now that Goonswarm are(incidentally) doing a fantastic job of it, all people do is complain. Because ISK sellers are running hauler missions. -- There are countless games in the world. There are at least as many ppl that dont like one or more rules of said games. That never stopped smart game designers from creating good games.
Brainless Bimbo	Posted - 2008.03.13 20:56:00 - [28] Goonies haven't killed many and certanly none that they own, they've hardly dented the hulk population in game looking at thier kill boards to the numbers of hulk released by CCP. Goonies do not provide public service, if they do they get killed by other goonies for being devient, and then returned to clone bay at every opportunity after that. ...... continues overleaf.
Jacob Holland	Posted - 2008.03.13 21:23:00 - [29] Edited by: Jacob Holland on 13/03/2008 21:23:07 Originally by: Arthur Frayn I've also seen the Jihadswarm youtube videos. Nearly every hulk I've seen killed in those videos continued to mine while being ganked. The victims were either incredibly dense or pre-programmed. Just a couple of tiny little points... Strip miners have a considerable deactivation time, it's quite possible that some of those pilots were destroyed before their strips were deactivated. Other "Macro-smartbombing" videos show that farming ice miners are quite capable of attempting to warp all of their ships out when a BS warps in on them, attempts to survive are by no means indication of a human at the keyboard. Finally, what precisely would you expect a mining barge to do in that situation? It's very sad-panda but if trying to warp out isn't going to help, loosing your drones isn't going to help and tanking is only going to postpone the inevitable for a couple of booster cycles it's almost understandable that a fair proportion simply sit there and wait to die. As stated elsewhere in the thread, Jihadswarm is going to hurt a legitimate miner far more than a farm miner, simply due to the available resources each has. It isn't a campaign against Macrominers, it's something to do (and occasionally turns up deadspace mods). -- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Originally by: cordy Respect to IAC .Your one of the few people who truly deserve to own and live in the space you are in.
Anacrit Mc'Sinister	Posted - 2008.03.13 21:43:00 - [30] emire is not the only problem, there are plenty of aliancese/corps in 0.0 that tolarate macrominers in there ranks

Rex Hargrove	Posted - 2008.03.13 21:45:00 - [31] Originally by: Jacob Holland Edited by: Jacob Holland on 13/03/2008 21:23:07 Originally by: Arthur Frayn I've also seen the Jihadswarm youtube videos. Nearly every hulk I've seen killed in those videos continued to mine while being ganked. The victims were either incredibly dense or pre-programmed. Just a couple of tiny little points... Strip miners have a considerable deactivation time, it's quite possible that some of those pilots were destroyed before their strips were deactivated. Other "Macro-smartbombing" videos show that farming ice miners are quite capable of attempting to warp all of their ships out when a BS warps in on them, attempts to survive are by no means indication of a human at the keyboard. Finally, what precisely would you expect a mining barge to do in that situation? It's very sad-panda but if trying to warp out isn't going to help, loosing your drones isn't going to help and tanking is only going to postpone the inevitable for a couple of booster cycles it's almost understandable that a fair proportion simply sit there and wait to die. As stated elsewhere in the thread, Jihadswarm is going to hurt a legitimate miner far more than a farm miner, simply due to the available resources each has. It isn't a campaign against Macrominers, it's something to do (and occasionally turns up deadspace mods). strip miners will instantly deactivate when you turn them off, and, even better, will give you mining amount * % of cycle completed of ore, so that's no excuse.
insolace	Posted - 2008.03.13 21:50:00 - [32] Originally by: Jacob Holland Edited by: Jacob Holland on 13/03/2008 21:23:07 Originally by: Arthur Frayn I've also seen the Jihadswarm youtube videos. Nearly every hulk I've seen killed in those videos continued to mine while being ganked. The victims were either incredibly dense or pre-programmed. Just a couple of tiny little points... Strip miners have a considerable deactivation time, it's quite possible that some of those pilots were destroyed before their strips were deactivated. Other "Macro-smartbombing" videos show that farming ice miners are quite capable of attempting to warp all of their ships out when a BS warps in on them, attempts to survive are by no means indication of a human at the keyboard. Finally, what precisely would you expect a mining barge to do in that situation? It's very sad-panda but if trying to warp out isn't going to help, loosing your drones isn't going to help and tanking is only going to postpone the inevitable for a couple of booster cycles it's almost understandable that a fair proportion simply sit there and wait to die. As stated elsewhere in the thread, Jihadswarm is going to hurt a legitimate miner far more than a farm miner, simply due to the available resources each has. It isn't a campaign against Macrominers, it's something to do (and occasionally turns up deadspace mods). Every single hulk and mackinaw that I've destroyed was done so in a belt with multiple hulks and mackinaws present. I fail to see how anyone can pity a hulk pilot that doesn't dock up when he sees me enter local, especially when not 16 minutes before he saw me destroy the hulk that was mining 20km away from him. I've yet to see any of these pilots take any precautions when myself and my brothers have been actively destroying the other ships in their belts for over an hour. The least they could do is fit some decent T2 or faction boosters and hardeners.
Jacob Holland	Posted - 2008.03.13 22:57:00 - [33] Originally by: Rex Hargrove strip miners will instantly deactivate when you turn them off, and, even better, will give you mining amount * % of cycle completed of ore, so that's no excuse. Not true. Strip miner cycles are divided into several minicycles but ending a cycle early still requires that you complete the current minicycle. Originally by: insolace Every single hulk and mackinaw that I've destroyed was done so in a belt with multiple hulks and mackinaws present. I fail to see how anyone can pity a hulk pilot that doesn't dock up when he sees me enter local, especially when not 16 minutes before he saw me destroy the hulk that was mining 20km away from him. Those who do have the opportunity to avoid the attack and simply sit there hoping that they'll have finished mining before you get to them deserve everything they might get, similarly those who go through billions of ISK in ships and mods because they simply can't believe that it'll happen again. My point was simply that there is nothing that a barge can do once a suicide BS has them in its sights and therefore (while lamentable) it is understandable that some of them are sad pandas and just sit there waiting to die. Maybe theyt are all macros, but I would expect macros to try to warp out - each ship they lose cuts into their livelyhood after all. I'd expect most farms to have GoonSwarm set red and have programs which dock them when you hit local by now... A good number though will be carebears who simply assume that you're after gistii mods and feel safe in their lack of profitability; even having watched for an hour some of them are going to be surprised when their shield starts to get torn down. Whether JihadSwarm is a carefully orchestrated attack on POS logistics or s** and giggles doesn't matter, but just because a ship makes an effort to survive doesn't mean that someone is at the keyboard and just because it doesn't is not an indicator that it's being run by a machine. -- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Originally by:** cordy Respect to IAC .Your one of the few people who truly deserve to own and live in the space you are in.
Scoundrelus	Posted - 2008.03.13 23:03:00 - [34] Originally by: Xevas Originally by: Arthur Frayn How many macrominers have Jihadswarm kindly removed for our benefit? None. If you look at their killboard, you will see that their victims are all valid miners. They've yet to kill a miner named "askjhd" or whatever i see so much of ingame. If anything, they are targeting miners that alt+tab out during cycles. If anything, they are encouraging isk sellers. The core of Goonswarm (which are those tards from the something awful forum) has made it known on many occasions that their objective is to ruin EVE. Blowing up miners and leaving macros alone is one of their ways of doing it. 20.8 Mil SP Astarte PvP char for sale
Aprudena Gist	Posted - 2008.03.13 23:05:00 - [35] Edited by: Aprudena Gist on 13/03/2008 23:05:39 its funny as hell watching a pod warp back to the spot where the miner was mining back and forth for hours thou.
Aprudena Gist	Posted - 2008.03.13 23:06:00 - [36] Originally by: Scoundrelus Originally by: Xevas Originally by: Arthur Frayn How many macrominers have Jihadswarm kindly removed for our benefit? None. If you look at their killboard, you will see that their victims are all valid miners. They've yet to kill a miner named "askjhd" or whatever i see so much of ingame. If anything, they are targeting miners that alt+tab out during cycles. If anything, they are encouraging isk sellers. The core of Goonswarm (which are those tards from the something awful forum) has made it known on many occasions that their objective is to ruin EVE. Blowing up miners and leaving macros alone is one of their ways of doing it. Sometimes having fun is fun.
Metro Trade	Posted - 2008.03.13 23:11:00 - [37] GOONS YOU SUCK Originally by: BoB Pilot Look a GOON, he run to NOL (lol)
Malcanis	Posted - 2008.03.13 23:47:00 - [38] Originally by: Aprudena Gist Edited by: Aprudena Gist on 13/03/2008 23:05:39 its funny as hell watching a pod warp back to the spot where the miner was mining back and forth for hours thou. Hey if that's some guy's play-style who are we to judge? CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.


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