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Jake Solnich
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Posted - 2004.04.10 11:30:00 -
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I'm a CEO of a brand new corp with mostly new players. I've been playing Eve since week 2 of release so I consider myself an experienced player.
Unfortunately, as most experience players know, there are some rather nasty scams going around in the Eve universe. I've tried to warn my new corp members of some of these scams but I failed to mention one of the worst.
One of my corp members who has only been playing for about a month accidentally bought a shuttle that he thought was on sale for 4,000 isk when it was actually for 4 million.
Now, I understand that it is up to the buyer to be cautious and pay attention to what you are buying. That said, this is clearly a scam by another player. This is not the first time this has happened either and this won't be the last I'm sure.
I don't think that scamming another player is out of the context of normal game mechanics. I do think that scamming has a place in Eve. However, I believe that something should be done to warn new players of scams by other players in the market.
If a player puts an item up for sale on the market and the sale price of that item is below the average price then a warning box appears. Most experienced players know what this warning box states but I will summarize for others that might not know.
When the warning box pops up in game it states that the item you have just put up for sell is below the average price and it asks if your sure you want to sell it at that price.
Now you may ask what does this have to do with the buyer. Well, in my humble opinion if the seller gets a warning if he's selling too low then why doesn't the buyer get the same warning if he's buying above the average price of an item. I think it would only be fair to also include this same kind of warning to buyers as well as to sellers.
So what do you guys think? Do you think the warning that sellers get should also be given to the buyers if they are buying and item above the average price. I do, and I bet it wouldn't be hard at all for the developers to add to the game either.
Please tell me what you think. I'm open to any opinions. If I get mostly positive feedback on this issue then I will try to elevate it to the next CSM if possible or talk to a GM in help channel. Either way, I try hard to make a recommendation. Whether or not it will happen is up to the developers but its worth a try. Thanks in advance.
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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2004.04.10 11:57:00 -
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I'd think a popup saying "Are you sure you want to buy at this price" is enough...no need to compare it to the other market prices for them  .
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Marabeth
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Posted - 2004.04.10 12:02:00 -
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I'd like to see that as well. I have accidently bought items at a silly price through inattention, or not looking exactly where the decimal point is.
I don't think it is a scam as such, but it would be nice to protect me from myself now and again, as well as protecting new players
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Master Zowel
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Posted - 2004.04.10 12:57:00 -
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Everybody who made a mistake like that won't do it again - i think that's just a lesson new players have to learn.
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2004.04.10 16:13:00 -
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/me agrees with Master Zowel
I mean who hasn't lost 105million ISK in a Trading/Market mix-up ... 
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justyski
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Posted - 2004.04.10 16:42:00 -
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Read the price, take your time.
You have no one to blame but yourself if this happens and I wouldnt call it a scam as it was your own fault. God knows it has happened to me as well.
It will limit the market disasterously if these warnings appear all over the place saying, on no dont by this here, 63 jumps away you can get it at half the price. Its up to you to buy and make the decision as to the value of your purchase.
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Styrmir
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Posted - 2004.04.10 17:17:00 -
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If everyone gets a warning then that would drive all prices towards some "medium price". To make the market more variable I would say we should rather drop the selling warning rather than to add another.
I totally agree that these scammers are very lame but people should be able to sell stuff above the "medium price" within reason.
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ZzeusS
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Posted - 2004.04.10 17:45:00 -
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Well if you get a sell order warning for being under average regional you outta get a buy order warning for over average.
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Dalmont Delantee
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Posted - 2004.04.10 17:47:00 -
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Its something you have to learn while playing the game..
I still have my 2 million 1 mwd...its platinum plated I'm sure...
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Ruffio Sepico
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Posted - 2004.04.10 18:22:00 -
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Always look for shuttles that belongs to the race faction the station belong too... Its a nice thumb rule at least ;-)
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Arii
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Posted - 2004.04.10 22:38:00 -
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warning if the price is above average by 30% or something would let the profits be made, without people being scammed
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.04.10 23:01:00 -
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Placing a warning wouldn't make ANY difference to the profits you can make from legitimate attempts to sell things; you can still choose to be higher than the average price, and if it's convenient to do so, people will still buy from you. So that's not even an argument.
It boils down to whether you think inexperienced, or inattentive, players should be given a warning that they're about to do something stupid. And *that* is a subjective opinion, so it's a waste of time trying to hold a debate over it. There is no "right" answer.
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