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thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2008.03.16 18:44:00 - [31] Originally by: Scavok I'm only emo because there was a 3-4 month period after rev 2 where you could have 300+ person fights in any random system with relatively little lag, and needed over 600 to stress the reinforced nodes. It used to be better than this! not to mention it was easier to crash nodes then.. eh? _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
Scavok UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.16 19:09:00 - [32] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Scavok I'm only emo because there was a 3-4 month period after rev 2 where you could have 300+ person fights in any random system with relatively little lag, and needed over 600 to stress the reinforced nodes. It used to be better than this! not to mention it was easier to crash nodes then.. eh? What do you mean? The node didn't crash a single time while fighting in and around 9-9, 66-, d2e, rit, 0oy, ZS-, etc. It didn't crash in F-T or the surrounding systems despite the surrounding systems not having seen action for ages and clearly being on a different node than F-T. While BoB was fighting ASCN and GS/RA were fighting V/LV it was easy to crash an unreinforced node, but this crap in C9N really wasn't much different than those days.
Aaron Mirrorsaver R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.03.16 20:48:00 - [33] so whats changed since the good days of the rit triangle fight. need for speed has been pushed more and more things have been done for it... drone rof etc... is it trinity? better graphics would seem to be only a pc issue not a factor for server nodes crashing. 300 in system has been well do able... if ccp has posted somewhere that they are rectifying and identified problem then point me to it. Or maybe its just that back last year in those days, there weren't as many on going fights. but now you've got blobs on blobs in several regions at one time... too much stress? cant wait on the network code redo that they claim has been in the works for a while. and maybe we can actually use broadband code instead of code built with 56k in mind. and maybe the dustmen clean up will help. when they get rid of the 10 million anchored cans in empire... o/ Scavok Go Hard, or go Home.
Fitz Chivalry eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.03.17 13:15:00 - [34] I feel for you on the lag point, we had a 30 vs 50 fight in Geminate recently (so no more than 80 in the entire system), or rather we tried to have one and it was just a joke with more than half the gang unable to lock or get a single shot off and no-one able to warp out at all, and this was a small fleet fight with no carriers on the gate spewing fighters. As an aside, I would love to know (referenced above) how those bob/ascn fleet fights always used to end in a node crash, was it just the game sucking or was there something you could do to encourage a crash? It was as regular as clockwork, here come bob to the gate, they are jumping in, oh the nodes crashed lets all log back in and get slaughtered.
Noemi Sparks ShadowLight Production Zenith Affinity	Posted - 2008.03.17 21:25:00 - [35] Node death has nothing to do with the population count fighting. After 1.1 patch, there were random node deaths and C9N-CC suffered such technical difficulties. CCP is working on the issue and the fight goes on regardless.
Sola Sun Jita Trade Services	Posted - 2008.03.18 00:30:00 - [36] The real facts are: 1) There are only 10 moons in c9n, and instead of spamming all them with hardiner-packed large factions deathstars, as most****s will do, SE put 2 large POS, 6 small ones and left 2 moons unoccupied - inviting people to try and do it. 2) So-called "anti-bob coalition" (TCF, UNL, RA, Goons, a couple of local alliances), as they failed miserably against BOB, decided to blob together against 250-men alliance. "They got 40 battleships?" omg we need 45 capitals then! 3) According to killboards of involved parties, blobbers lost 14 capital ships to this date, while SE side suffered no capital losses. Losses of conventional ships are in favor of SE as well, though they were always outnumbered more or less. SE still holds claim in C9N, and no POS (of initial 8) were destroyed yet.
Dafo A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.03.18 03:33:00 - [37] hey we lost only 10+ capitals ... we are impoving
Grath Telkin STK Scientific Black-Out	Posted - 2008.03.18 03:44:00 - [38] Originally by: Sola Sun The real facts are: Questionable opening...there are very few real facts in your post, it does however contain a heavy dose of opinion Originally by: Sola Sun 1) There are only 10 moons in c9n, and instead of spamming all them with hardiner-packed large factions deathstars, as most**s will do, SE put 2 large POS, 6 small ones and left 2 moons unoccupied - inviting people to try and do it. It wouldn't really be Stain if they weren't looking for a fight would it. Originally by:** Sola Sun 2) So-called "anti-bob coalition" (TCF, UNL, RA, Goons, a couple of local alliances), as they failed miserably against BOB, decided to blob together against 250-men alliance. "They got 40 battleships?" omg we need 45 capitals then! Lots of falsehoods in this, Stain has more than 250 members being one of the ones thats most blatant. Other than that, I don't think theres one solid fact in this statement, just a lot of bitter opinion and smack. Originally by: Sola Sun 3) According to killboards of involved parties, blobbers lost 14 capital ships to this date, while SE side suffered no capital losses. Losses of conventional ships are in favor of SE as well, though they were always outnumbered more or less. SE still holds claim in C9N, and no POS (of initial 8) were destroyed yet. This is probably the most factual bit of information in your whole post, and yet you still managed to omit just enough to make it worthless. NO pos's in system have been destroyed. That includes the 2 goon towers, as well as all the Stain Towers. Fleet sizes are near matched most times, with Stain usually dominating their timezone, and us dominating ours...but I suppose you'd have to get out of your armchair and come down to see that yourself. Of course, were all having fun on both sides of this, and I think you would just wreck the vibe with all of your negativity. I think if you try harder, you could manage to sound more bitter and spiteful....though it may be tough.
Sola Sun Jita Trade Services	Posted - 2008.03.18 08:55:00 - [39] Quote: Lots of falsehoods in this, Stain has more than 250 members being one of the ones thats most blatant. Other than that, I don't think theres one solid fact in this statement, just a lot of bitter opinion and smack. Ok, facts. Open "Corporation" / "Alliances" / "Rankings". Find "Stain Empire". 360 members. Omg, ITS A TRAP!! They are TWO of them here!!! Including alts, inactive members, second accounts and cynostuff - 250 is a very good estimation. From the same list, Black-Out = 1016, TCF = 1390, UNL = 1208, RA = 1627, Goons = 5724. NUMERICALLY more-or-less balanced fleets -- maybe. Where attacking force has half of their numbers in capital ships, as they simply cant fight otherwise.
Tyr Zewa Tax Collectors	Posted - 2008.03.18 09:46:00 - [40] It's SE + coven. And i agree lag was horrible, at least on sunday when we went down there to get some small ships blown up, most of us failed to even target something before we lost our ships :P (2nd time since i am back, where i was flying a pod with modules........) and getting messages like "you can't activate the module because X is 204312423525km away" is always fun, when he shows 4km away from you :) It's kinda weird tough, i remember 100 vs 100 SA vs CA fleet fights in u-q/osht 4-5 years ago, we mostly had module lag but else it was fine, WAY better than this sunday.
Brmble GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.18 09:52:00 - [41] Originally by: Sola Sun Quote: Lots of falsehoods in this, Stain has more than 250 members being one of the ones thats most blatant. Other than that, I don't think theres one solid fact in this statement, just a lot of bitter opinion and smack. Ok, facts. Open "Corporation" / "Alliances" / "Rankings". Find "Stain Empire". 360 members. Omg, ITS A TRAP!! They are TWO of them here!!! Including alts, inactive members, second accounts and cynostuff - 250 is a very good estimation. From the same list, Black-Out = 1016, TCF = 1390, UNL = 1208, RA = 1627, Goons = 5724. NUMERICALLY more-or-less balanced fleets -- maybe. Where attacking force has half of their numbers in capital ships, as they simply cant fight otherwise. if you think you are feeling the fully combined wrath of said alliances you are seriously deluding yourself and the readers ~ no not believin in urself ~
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2008.03.18 10:05:00 - [42] Originally by: Brmble Originally by: Sola Sun Quote: Lots of falsehoods in this, Stain has more than 250 members being one of the ones thats most blatant. Other than that, I don't think theres one solid fact in this statement, just a lot of bitter opinion and smack. Ok, facts. Open "Corporation" / "Alliances" / "Rankings". Find "Stain Empire". 360 members. Omg, ITS A TRAP!! They are TWO of them here!!! Including alts, inactive members, second accounts and cynostuff - 250 is a very good estimation. From the same list, Black-Out = 1016, TCF = 1390, UNL = 1208, RA = 1627, Goons = 5724. NUMERICALLY more-or-less balanced fleets -- maybe. Where attacking force has half of their numbers in capital ships, as they simply cant fight otherwise. if you think you are feeling the fully combined wrath of said alliances you are seriously deluding yourself and the readers the wrath of the goons is funneh idea.. i relly dont think SE can be threadnaughted to death _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
Maxima Maxi Pink Bunnies C0VEN	Posted - 2008.03.18 10:06:00 - [43] Is there really need to replay to an alt post?
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.18 10:08:00 - [44] Originally by: thoth foc the wrath of the goons is funneh idea.. i relly dont think SE can be threadnaughted to death loses 6 regions
Brmble GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.18 10:49:00 - [45] Originally by: thoth foc the wrath of the goons is funneh idea.. i relly dont think SE can be threadnaughted to death strawman argument, bad thoth no dinner for you ~ no not believin in urself ~
Aaron Mirrorsaver R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.03.18 11:10:00 - [46] gs, tcf, unl are all mostly tied up in delve.. have been for the longest time. whats in c9n is what can be spared from them. Go Hard, or go Home.
Tholarim Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.18 11:14:00 - [47] Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: thoth foc the wrath of the goons is funneh idea.. i relly dont think SE can be threadnaughted to death loses 6 regions Originally by: KIATolon Do you always drag that old number out of the closet every time you do not have an answer to summat cos i think you over use it tbqh.
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.18 11:51:00 - [48] Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: thoth foc the wrath of the goons is funneh idea.. i relly dont think SE can be threadnaughted to death loses 6 regions Originally by: KIATolon Do you always drag that old number out of the closet every time you do not have an answer to summat cos i think you over use it tbqh. Thol > I'm not leaving 9-9 till it's back in bob's hands. I have honor. gets beaten back to delve
Tholarim Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.18 11:55:00 - [49] Edited by: Tholarim on 18/03/2008 11:56:47 Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: thoth foc the wrath of the goons is funneh idea.. i relly dont think SE can be threadnaughted to death loses 6 regions Originally by: KIATolon Do you always drag that old number out of the closet every time you do not have an answer to summat cos i think you over use it tbqh. Thol > I'm not leaving 9-9 till it's back in bob's hands. I have honor. gets beaten back to delve Modifying quotes is funny, since i never said the i have honor part, particularly since i spell it differently cus i ain't english. I might have somewhat misjudged the situation in 9-9 though. yes. edit: i was actually gonna use the 9-9 remark in my first post since you always bring that up as well. Ah well, guess it proves my point. Getting more serious with the day i see though suas, how's that working out for you?
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.18 12:02:00 - [50] Originally by: Tholarim Modifying quotes is funny, since i never said the i have honor part, particularly since i spell it differently cus i ain't english. I might have somewhat misjudged the situation in 9-9 though. yes. edit: i was actually gonna use the 9-9 remark in my first post since you always bring that up as well. Ah well, guess it proves my point. Getting more serious with the day i see though suas, how's that working out for you? It's not spelt the English way. That would be "honour". I'm getting less and less serious actually. You've always been a terrible judge of what's going on though. complains about people over-using catchphrases then makes fun of goon threadnaughts
Tholarim Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.18 12:13:00 - [51] Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: Tholarim Modifying quotes is funny, since i never said the i have honor part, particularly since i spell it differently cus i ain't english. I might have somewhat misjudged the situation in 9-9 though. yes. edit: i was actually gonna use the 9-9 remark in my first post since you always bring that up as well. Ah well, guess it proves my point. Getting more serious with the day i see though suas, how's that working out for you? It's not spelt the English way. That would be "honour". Still you just made up half a quote. Much like your regular "intell".
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2008.03.18 13:46:00 - [52] Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver gs, tcf, unl are all mostly tied up in delve.. have been for the longest time. whats in c9n is what can be spared from them. really? where? _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
Grath Telkin STK Scientific Black-Out	Posted - 2008.03.18 14:40:00 - [53] Originally by: Sola Sun Quote: Lots of falsehoods in this, Stain has more than 250 members being one of the ones thats most blatant. Other than that, I don't think theres one solid fact in this statement, just a lot of bitter opinion and smack. Ok, facts. Open "Corporation" / "Alliances" / "Rankings". Find "Stain Empire". 360 members. Omg, ITS A TRAP!! They are TWO of them here!!! Including alts, inactive members, second accounts and cynostuff - 250 is a very good estimation. From the same list, Black-Out = 1016, TCF = 1390, UNL = 1208, RA = 1627, Goons = 5724. NUMERICALLY more-or-less balanced fleets -- maybe. Where attacking force has half of their numbers in capital ships, as they simply cant fight otherwise. You know there is another group around here that seems to use capital ships in excess, but hey, it would be stupid NOT to use them...or else why the hell did you bother to build them.. Also, don't forget Coven forces, they are actually in the fighting, and your not bringing any of those facts to light. The fact that your smacking SO much about things you obviously have no clue about shows you haven't even been in system during the fighting AND your lending to my theory that the only people talking trash in this tread are the ones NOT in the fight itself. Of course, from your initial post you've been smacking in a way trying to link this with the BoB fight in some way, which for a refreshing change, its in no way related. I would say good try, but your still not doing so hot, so i won't. Dig up some more little tid bits, twist the numbers to suit your cause, and come back so i can disseminate that as well.
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.18 16:41:00 - [54] Originally by: Tholarim Still you just made up half a quote. Much like your regular "intell". So what half did I make up?
TigCobra Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.19 13:17:00 - [55] Originally by: Sola Sun The real facts are: 1) There are only 10 moons in c9n, and instead of spamming all them with hardiner-packed large factions deathstars, as most****s will do, SE put 2 large POS, 6 small ones and left 2 moons unoccupied - inviting people to try and do it. 2) So-called "anti-bob coalition" (TCF, UNL, RA, Goons, a couple of local alliances), as they failed miserably against BOB, decided to blob together against 250-men alliance. "They got 40 battleships?" omg we need 45 capitals then! 3) According to killboards of involved parties, blobbers lost 14 capital ships to this date, while SE side suffered no capital losses. Losses of conventional ships are in favor of SE as well, though they were always outnumbered more or less. SE still holds claim in C9N, and no POS (of initial 8) were destroyed yet. hmm... 1.) Yes that information is correct. We are also playing ping pong with SE right now in c9n. This is due to the simple fact that SE are Euro TZ and the we are US TZ. So it is a bunch of POS ping pong right now. 2.) This Anti Coalition you speak of is kinda far fetched. If you actually pay attention to your whom your fighting you may notice that is primarily 3 GoonSwarm corporations, and Black-Out. These 3 corporations do not amass 5k members, and from my knowledge there have not been in goonfleet members in the ops because they are in Delve. The reason UNL, TCF, and RA have come into the picture is for one simple reason to have fun. They know SE will bring a fight and they want in on some of the action and since they are close to or are in the same time zone makes a big difference there. 3.) Sola Sun when you posted this you only gave the information, that was beneficial to you or in the defense of SE. Yes this information may be true. But to my knowledge there have only been 2 capital losses to TCF since the siege of c9n has started. And no we have not destroyed any of your POS's nor have you Destroyed any of ours. So I wouldnt beat your chest to much. TigCobra
kublai Art of War	Posted - 2008.03.19 20:02:00 - [56] Originally by: Fitz Chivalry I feel for you on the lag point, we had a 30 vs 50 fight in Geminate recently (so no more than 80 in the entire system), or rather we tried to have one and it was just a joke with more than half the gang unable to lock or get a single shot off and no-one able to warp out at all, and this was a small fleet fight with no carriers on the gate spewing fighters. As an aside, I would love to know (referenced above) how those bob/ascn fleet fights always used to end in a node crash, was it just the game sucking or was there something you could do to encourage a crash? It was as regular as clockwork, here come bob to the gate, they are jumping in, oh the nodes crashed lets all log back in and get slaughtered. A large hostile fleet jumping into a heavily camped gate held by a swarm of newbies in frigates with drones out etc causing a node death....I can only think of one thing and that is that bob does INDEED have i super secret dev "node crash" button! ------ I speak on behalf of my corporation PS. You suck
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.03.19 23:15:00 - [57] Holy derail batman Suas vs Tholarim 1v1 forum fight ITT =o - Gob IXC Recruitment
Tarkin8 DOWN THE PIPE Celestial Frontier	Posted - 2008.03.20 08:29:00 - [58] When did the station in C9N change to a conq 3 from the refinery conq one??
Bonita Ramirez Xenobytes Stain Empire	Posted - 2008.03.20 09:20:00 - [59] Originally by: Tarkin8 When did the station in C9N change to a conq 3 from the refinery conq one?? C9N never been the refinery BZ-0GW - Conquerable Factory (Type 1) 111-F1 - Conquerable Refinery (Type 2) C9N-CC - Conquerable Factory (Type 3) Eve-maps source
Ryuga VonRhaiden Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.	Posted - 2008.03.20 09:27:00 - [60] Originally by: Tyr Zewa It's SE + coven. Hey, someone's stealing our foes!! We want coven back!! :D Do not try and find the signature... that's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth... There is no signature.

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