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CetusOfAsuran
GHOSTS OF THE FIRST AND ONLY
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Posted - 2008.03.15 02:24:00 -
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Ok been playing for a few mnths now, getting to the level i want to be at for my "career" and was wondering what exactly is constituted as "the pirate code" in eve, or if there even is a set of unwritten rules here.
The main reason i ask is just last week i got my first taste of being held to ransom  something i certainly was hoping to do, the asking price for my raven wa 75mil, little high i thought but considering my modules was happy to accept, paid up, pulled in my drones and ceased fire,and deactivated self destruct at which point i was duly destroyed.
So how many other people do this? should i ransom then destroy anyway? seems like a dirty trick to me! what are the "rules" if any.
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Marcus TheMartin
Deadly Addiction
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.03.15 02:31:00 -
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there is no code what you encountered was a killmail *****
its tricky saying who will honor or dishonor a ransom.
And all the corps that will come in here and say they honor their ransoms it doesn't change the fact that people will dishonor them.
A list of who not to accept ransoms from will be ineffective due to the time limit placed on ransom requests.
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.03.15 02:33:00 -
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I got me two rules.
I dont dishonor a 1v1
I dont dishonor a ransom
Oh and, if i'm speaking on behalf of my corporation i'm probably not lying (as in, if I tell you we will escort your freighter in exchange for something, we actually will).
Barr that though, party in my wallet.
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CetusOfAsuran
GHOSTS OF THE FIRST AND ONLY
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Posted - 2008.03.15 02:42:00 -
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so really its a personal thing then,. Personally i was thinking about being an honorable pirate as just seemed the right thing to do and thought that this kind of action may not exactly be popular.
While im here though anyone got any ideas why concord didnt show up? this was in a 0.9 system without any war dec he was in fact in an npc corp, we were in the middle of nowhere do concord not have warp drives? honestly i held out for 19mins before he pulled this act and surely concord should of shown up by now?
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Tony Allizzar
POINT CLICK KILL
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Posted - 2008.03.15 02:46:00 -
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I will never not honour a ransom. Its a good souce of income for a pirate, and if people know you to never honour them, they will not pay. Its just plain busness sense.
I think its dirty too. Gives all pirates out to make a quick buck a bad name.
If I found anyone in a corp I ran popping someone after they paid, Id pod them myself and kick them from corp.  |
CetusOfAsuran
GHOSTS OF THE FIRST AND ONLY
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Posted - 2008.03.15 02:51:00 -
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thats the kind of reply i was expecting, so there is honor among thieves (excuse the phrase). If this d*** wasnt in a npc corp i would wardec and keep hitting him til he gave me my money back, unfortunately he wont even give me a rematch. If only i knew how he avoided concord.
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Pestilence Aligher'ri
V i L e
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Posted - 2008.03.15 02:53:00 -
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Edited by: Pestilence Aligher''ri on 15/03/2008 02:54:09
I guess I will be the oddball here.
I don't really have a code of conduct. I am a pirate and not going to follow a set of rules in which my trade that is totally against following the rules. I am not honorable and I am not going to give you a fair chance. Just doesn't seem to be the right thing to do as I am a pirate not a saint.
I choose not to ransom victims. I see it as a window for the enemy to move into position while I'm still in one spot. If I ever do choose to ransom, I will more than likely not honor it and still kill you anyways. Why? Well instead of just getting loot, I got loot and some of your isk. Do I care if no one pays ransoms based on my actions ever again? No, why do I want to help you get richer?
Honor is for the other guy and I am ruthless, annoying and well vile. 
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Kain De'Stroi
Epic.
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Posted - 2008.03.15 03:25:00 -
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 Originally by: Pestilence Aligher'ri
If I ever do choose to ransom, I will more than likely not honor it and still kill you anyways.
i got a list whit people like you that i use to run whit my locator agent sometimes, just to se if they are near my low sec pocket. 
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Zeon Mackie
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.03.15 04:04:00 -
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I'll offer a ransom and i'll stick to it.
No point in putting off future business :)
I'd actually say I'm more worried about the marks than the ebil piwats, as I tried to ransom a noob in a drake who was ratting in 0.3
Silly begger said that they'd pay the ransom, then started firing on one of my gangmates who was minding their own business close by.
Needless to say, the drake went boom :)
12 mil bounty vs 161mil worth of drop.
I think theres a pirate code in as much as each person has their own. Take your chances.
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Bryg Philomena
Green Lantern Corps
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Posted - 2008.03.15 04:15:00 -
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I'll most likely just kill you haha. If I ransom I do tend to honour it. The only time I wont is running a lofty trick, in which case, they wont be repeat customers anyway. Im a *****
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Am I reading this correctly? You claim you have a bug that undresses female avatars???
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Crazy Tasty
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.03.15 04:33:00 -
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Most older or well respected corps will force a 1v1 or ransom to be honored.
In Bydi you'll be in a nub corp ASAP for breaking either.
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Karyuudo Tydraad
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services
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Posted - 2008.03.15 04:39:00 -
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Any respectable pirate corp will have honoring ransoms be mandatory. A bad reputation means no more successful ransoming, which makes it a lot harder to fund piracy.
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Icutty Lotz
The Baros Syndicate
Kissaki Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.15 05:03:00 -
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there are way to avoid concord
if he takes your ore can and you fire back concord dose not come to save you (this is the same with wreck)
so if he was flashing red and you fired on him he can blow your ship up without concord coming in.
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benzss
Twisted Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.15 05:26:00 -
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Originally by: Karyuudo Tydraad
Any respectable pirate corp will have honoring ransoms be mandatory. A bad reputation means no more successful ransoming, which makes it a lot harder to fund piracy.
Yup. Makes things easier to make money, plus you're more likely to get repeat 'customers'.
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.03.15 05:29:00 -
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Oh, and important detail.
All proper pirates have a small "Kublai" figurine on their dashboard for good luck, available at kublai-store for a mere 500.000 ISK.
Blessings of Kublai also available for 10.000.000 ISK.
Faith in Kublai is free (but sending 20.000.000 ISK to Kublai will double the power of your prayers).
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Jakata Boomba
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.03.15 05:51:00 -
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The first rule of a pirate is that there are rules.
The second rule is to scam any idiot who thinks there are.
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Pestilence Aligher'ri
V i L e
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Posted - 2008.03.15 07:01:00 -
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Originally by: Karyuudo Tydraad
Any respectable pirate corp will have honoring ransoms be mandatory. A bad reputation means no more successful ransoming, which makes it a lot harder to fund piracy.
Most pirate corps fund based off ship kills and not ransoming so this is obviously not true at all. Ransoming is really a waste of time and requires time to ransom.
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Golan Vodar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.03.15 07:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jakata Boomba
The first rule of a pirate is that there are rules.
The second rule is to scam any idiot who thinks there are.
Someone named Skylark from UO stratics forums I used to frequent once said:
"Anyone can be a punk, but it takes special
people to play bad guys without actually being bad."
Just something for the asshats out there to keep in mind. Playing the evil character doesn't mean you have to be or should be a jerk. There are different types of evil. The evil you play as your character for your fun and the fun of those playing with you, and the evil you yourself are as a person. Scamming isn't your character...that's the evil you are.
People like you give PKs/pirates/whatever...bad guys in any MMO,a bad name. Bad guys are supposed to bring something to the game, enhance the experience of the players. Things like griefing and scamming only take away from the game. I hope your kind are few in EvE. I don't know since I'm a noob to this game. But I know in other mmos honorable bad guys are a dieing breed, being replaced by trash who bring nothing to the game at all. Tis sad:(.
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RuleoftheBone
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.15 07:28:00 -
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Originally by: kublai
Oh, and important detail.
All proper pirates have a small "Kublai" figurine on their dashboard for good luck, available at kublai-store for a mere 500.000 ISK.
Blessings of Kublai also available for 10.000.000 ISK.
Faith in Kublai is free (but sending 20.000.000 ISK to Kublai will double the power of your prayers).
You wish 
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way"
General George Patton USA
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Alva Dyson
Macross Consortium
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Posted - 2008.03.15 11:47:00 -
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I've never thought of a Pirates Code.
I know that you shouldn't kill off too many ppl in a short period of time or you could get war dec'd or ppl won't come around.
Also don't pod someone after they paid a ransom or it may hurt your future business.
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Inertial
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.03.15 12:15:00 -
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Holding you promises on ransoms and 1vs1s is important, maybe not there and then, but in the future. You might want to join a different corp/alliance, hold a IPO or recruit someone, but if your reputation is bad, you may loose those oppertunities.
Personally I don't ransom ships, unless its worth it, I prefer to ransom the pods instead (if I catch someone that is worth ransoming).
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.03.15 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: CetusOfAsuran
so really its a personal thing then,. Personally i was thinking about being an honorable pirate as just seemed the right thing to do and thought that this kind of action may not exactly be popular.
While im here though anyone got any ideas why concord didnt show up? this was in a 0.9 system without any war dec he was in fact in an npc corp, we were in the middle of nowhere do concord not have warp drives? honestly i held out for 19mins before he pulled this act and surely concord should of shown up by now?
Loftied ? Highsec pirates in NPC corp are less likely to honor ransoms than lowsec pirates in established corps.
This brand of piracy actually encourages dishonoring ransoms , as it's impossible to ransom the same target twice (it won't accept the gang invite in the first place) though they are pretty stupid so reputation is irrelevant - and dropping faction / officer loot is worth a lot , while free ISK from ransoms add up. Those highsec pirates tend to become ridiculously rich and not care about future income at all.
By contrast , lowsec pirates rely on ransoms to pay for their ships as their overall income is low , and work in groups so reputation matters for the entire corp.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
Locked
I don't believe that a link to a RickRoll video constitutes proof, even in CAOD.
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Smantha Dering
Sam's Space Guys
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Posted - 2008.03.15 13:23:00 -
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Well, you're asking ner-do-wells to stick to a code, as I'd guess as a code of ethics. The idea that people trying to take your stuff or atleast make pretty explosions, having a code is laughable. As Barbosa said "the code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules". Even the "good guys" will sometimes abandon their "code" when the situation merits.
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Kain De'Stroi
Epic.
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Posted - 2008.03.15 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Pestilence Aligher'ri
Originally by: Karyuudo Tydraad
Any respectable pirate corp will have honoring ransoms be mandatory. A bad reputation means no more successful ransoming, which makes it a lot harder to fund piracy.
Most pirate corps fund based off ship kills and not ransoming so this is obviously not true at all. Ransoming is really a waste of time and requires time to ransom.
i dont agree at all, loot drops genrally suck unless you go after other pirates.
only way to make decent isk is by ransoms.
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Verone
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.15 22:27:00 -
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Interesting thread...
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.03.15 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Interesting thread...
quite... 
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Pestilence Aligher'ri
V i L e
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Posted - 2008.03.16 02:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kain De'Stroi
Originally by: Pestilence Aligher'ri
Originally by: Karyuudo Tydraad
Any respectable pirate corp will have honoring ransoms be mandatory. A bad reputation means no more successful ransoming, which makes it a lot harder to fund piracy.
Most pirate corps fund based off ship kills and not ransoming so this is obviously not true at all. Ransoming is really a waste of time and requires time to ransom.
i dont agree at all, loot drops genrally suck unless you go after other pirates.
only way to make decent isk is by ransoms.
I will let the few pirate corps killing new players in low security empire that all those tech 1 cruisers and battlecruisers they gank 5 on 1 while at the gate is bad income. I will then let them know that ransoming imaginary targets in belts as well holding the target in place for 5 minutes at the gate while tanking sentry is a good tactic not a bad one.
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asdzxcqwerty
Hedion University
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Posted - 2008.03.16 06:35:00 -
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Most of the time people try to take ransoms so then people will trust them to honour their ransoms in the future, but a few just can't be bothered with reputation.
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Kaileen Starsong
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.16 08:09:00 -
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Originally by: Pestilence Aligher'ri
I will let the few pirate corps killing new players in low security empire that all those tech 1 cruisers and battlecruisers they gank 5 on 1 while at the gate is bad income. I will then let them know that ransoming imaginary targets in belts as well holding the target in place for 5 minutes at the gate while tanking sentry is a good tactic not a bad one.
On the other hand, say you got nano-ishtar webbed and in structure. Would you ransom it for 80+mil(depending on rigs) or pop it and enjoy 5-8 mil of loot + upto 20 mil of salvage if you're lucky.
I know what I'd pick
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Pestilence Aligher'ri
V i L e
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Posted - 2008.03.16 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kaileen Starsong
Originally by: Pestilence Aligher'ri
I will let the few pirate corps killing new players in low security empire that all those tech 1 cruisers and battlecruisers they gank 5 on 1 while at the gate is bad income. I will then let them know that ransoming imaginary targets in belts as well holding the target in place for 5 minutes at the gate while tanking sentry is a good tactic not a bad one.
On the other hand, say you got nano-ishtar webbed and in structure. Would you ransom it for 80+mil(depending on rigs) or pop it and enjoy 5-8 mil of loot + upto 20 mil of salvage if you're lucky.
I know what I'd pick
I never leave myself open to take more time than what I really need. Mostly because I am solo and mostly because I fly in hostile systems where there is no room for error. Taking time to convo and ransom a pilot is error. Sometimes can lead to a nice payoff but it can also lead you to death quick. Maybe not so much in the empire you hug but in the hostile system I fly, you don't let your enemy setup camps for you while your screwing around in a spot with your opponent.
Think...
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