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Kaileen Starsong
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.16 08:43:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Pestilence Aligher'ri
I never leave myself open to take more time than what I really need. Mostly because I am solo and mostly because I fly in hostile systems where there is no room for error. Taking time to convo and ransom a pilot is error. Sometimes can lead to a nice payoff but it can also lead you to death quick. Maybe not so much in the empire you hug but in the hostile system I fly, you don't let your enemy setup camps for you while your screwing around in a spot with your opponent.
Think...
I fly mostly solo myself and I do ransom.. from time to time  Ofcourse, common sense should be applied, i.e. ransoming in hostile system is no-no most likely; still, saying that "Ransoming is really a waste of time and requires time to ransom".. well, can't agree with that myself, but to each their own :P
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Majuan Shuo
Vigilante inc.
Ouroboros Cross Combine
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Posted - 2008.03.16 09:23:00 -
[32]
"well they're more like guidelines"
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Julia Newmatar
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.03.16 11:07:00 -
[33]
LOL!
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Napolie
Hybrid Syndicate
XIII Legio
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Posted - 2008.03.16 11:12:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Majuan Shuo
"well they're more like guidelines"
While i have to say this man here got a point!
I go for the usual stuff:
Not to dishonor 1v1 (Tough i tend to not accept these ones)
Not to dishonor Ransoms
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Lucas Goran
Twisted Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.16 12:24:00 -
[35]
Ransoms and 1 v 1's should always be honoured in my opininion.
However i tend to keep my ransoming to targets in deadspace... plenty of time to negotiate the best deal.  Don't forget the ship scanner
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CetusOfAsuran
GHOSTS OF THE FIRST AND ONLY
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Posted - 2008.03.16 18:09:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Icutty Lotz
there are way to avoid concord
if he takes your ore can and you fire back concord dose not come to save you (this is the same with wreck)
so if he was flashing red and you fired on him he can blow your ship up without concord coming in.
Yes i know this but he wasnt red and didnt steal, we were just in the same area of nowhere(no structures/planets or moons) and he "aggressed me" with a warp scrambler and jammer and opened fire the few times i broke his jam i returned fire but i was certainly not the agressor and after 19mins concord had still not shown there ugly faces my question is how or why? is there an exploit there?
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Karentaki
Combat-Evolved
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Posted - 2008.03.16 20:46:00 -
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I for one ALWAYS honour ransoms, and should hope everyone else in my corp will too. However, I do not always offer ransoms, and smacktalk or other abuse directed at me may just make me a bit more trigger happy. Normally I will ransom most ships of cruiser size and above.
If I ever caught anyone not honouring ransoms, from my corp or not, I would probably do my best to pod them 
Would you trust something with teeth but no eyes!?!?!
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Orar Ironfist
Incarnation of Evil
Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.16 23:28:00 -
[38]
Originally by: kublai
I dont dishonor a 1v1
I dont dishonor a ransom
These are the only two rules you need to learn. Btw all the people you see here saying they honor these two rules only make up about 10% of the eve pirate population. Dont think that just cause alot of pirates say they will that all will.
Pirate for Life(no matter my sec)
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Tarantelita
Ragna Rok Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.17 02:06:00 -
[39]
Its no code..
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
Muchacho's
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Posted - 2008.03.17 05:55:00 -
[40]
There are two kind of pirates in this game. My kind and the wrong kind :P
Lady Beeblebrox
Tundragon & Teddybears
Memorial Forum
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sxndy
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2008.03.17 09:27:00 -
[41]
All a pirate has is his honour; those that abuse this have nothing.
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sliver 0xD
exiles.
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Posted - 2008.03.17 11:17:00 -
[42]
Edited by: sliver 0xD on 17/03/2008 11:17:55
Originally by: sxndy
All a pirate has is his honour; those that abuse this have nothing.
i had my honor, it got scamed from me. now my new rule is : if its less then 20bil i dont care if u scam it :)
anyway if someone exedently blows up that payed me i usaly feel sorry... for 0.1 second and afterwords the pirate in me start and then its WHATEVER !!! :P
but yeah ransom should be honored a bit. its still the main way for all pirates to get the big lootz. if every pirate didnt hold to it noboy would give any ransome :)
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Derek Brutor
Gods Unwanted
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Posted - 2008.03.17 12:13:00 -
[43]
Over all you will make more money as a pirate in this game ransoming than you will from mod sale. You have to consider the moving and constant docking involved in moving any loot from many kills over the simple solution of your wallet flashing from a ransom. So in the case of what happened to yourself it is worth noting the corps out there that do ransom and stick with there agreement with you and the vast amount that do not. The only time a ransom pirate may just take your ship down is if you are flying a Faction ship in low sec.
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Turkish Slim
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.17 15:17:00 -
[44]
What is special about a 1 vs 1 that you should honor it?
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Tuberider
Pothouse Cartel
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Posted - 2008.03.17 15:46:00 -
[45]
The only Pirate code i know
I'll take your stuff 
I'll remember to ransom one day 
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Richard Butt
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.03.17 17:23:00 -
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If you develop a reputation for dishonouring ransoms, you'll very quickly find that it ceases to be an issue as people just won't pay your ransoms. It's not about ethics, it's about good business sense - is that killmail really worth cutting off a potentially lucrative revenue stream?
If you're gonna pop someone so you can loot their crap, do it - don't waste time trying to extort a few estra iskies out of them as well.
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flashfresh
BLACK-FLAG
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Posted - 2008.03.17 19:37:00 -
[47]
Edited by: flashfresh on 17/03/2008 19:44:09
I will always honour ransoms as would my corp, though there was one*****-up a month or so ago but that was because the ransom negotiations took too long and the guy was popped. No monies were exchanged however.
Anyway, why honour ransoms? For me, ransoms make up a small % of my intake per month. A destroyed ship, looted and salvaged usually makes me and my guys more. It's more about honesty and keeping your word. Yeah - we're pirates and such; and most of the time; someone can be crying out for ransoms and we ignore them and kill 'em just because we can.
On the occasions we *do* stop and ransom - then it's about our reputation. Yes, reputation. It takes a long time for a player and corporation to garner some level of recognition and reputation and respect. Months? Years?
All can be undone in a second.
Honesty and keeping your word keeps your reputation alive.
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ôMe, I'm dishonest, and you can always trust a dishonest man to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones you have to watch out for.'ö
http://i-pirate.blogspot.com
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CetusOfAsuran
GHOSTS OF THE FIRST AND ONLY
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Posted - 2008.03.17 21:07:00 -
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One person not honoring the ransom when offered does screw it over for everyone, afterall I now personally will never pay a ransom again, as i have no guarantee it will be honored and whats the point in losing iskies AND good modules, the 75mil i "paid" would of replaced the DG ballistic.
If i offer a ransom i will honor it. Oh and just so you know the +++e in question is monsterscorpse(monsterscorp) and narkogirl(npc nub) just in case they ever want to join you "honorable" pirate corps and dont want your rep bringing down.
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flashfresh
BLACK-FLAG
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Posted - 2008.03.17 21:12:00 -
[49]
Originally by: CetusOfAsuran
..........Oh and just so you know the +++e in question is monsterscorpse(monsterscorp) and narkogirl(npc nub) just in case they ever want to join you "honorable" pirate corps and dont want your rep bringing down.
Noted.
ôMe, I'm dishonest, and you can always trust a dishonest man to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones you have to watch out for.'ö
http://i-pirate.blogspot.com
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z0de
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.03.17 23:25:00 -
[50]
Don't pay ransoms to people in npc corps as theirs no accountablity.
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Daerdeae
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.03.18 02:12:00 -
[51]
In my experience, some time ago, I learned the one guiding principle. Not so much a rule as a guideline of sorts:
Be the kind of Pirate you would be Pirated by.
If you're gonna ransom his arse, and then kill him, you're just asking for him to call in his PvPer friends to hop you and drop you.
Trust me. Personal experience.
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Azael Lightshade
V i L e
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Posted - 2008.03.18 06:12:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Daerdeae
In my experience, some time ago, I learned the one guiding principle. Not so much a rule as a guideline of sorts:
Be the kind of Pirate you would be Pirated by.
If you're gonna ransom his arse, and then kill him, you're just asking for him to call in his PvPer friends to hop you and drop you.
Trust me. Personal experience.
This happens even if you honor a ransom. What eve do you play in? 
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Lars Lodar
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.03.18 11:14:00 -
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Always honor ransoms
Always honor 1v1
Always show sportsmanship and have a good attitude whether you win or loose.
If you get convo'd by a person you just blew up. Be courteous and respectful, unless the person is being a complete jerk. You never know when you might make a good friend or ally. In fact, after having a pleasant chat after a group of pirates blew me up, they all became my friends. Months later I fell into the life of piracy and joined their corp.
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Derek Brutor
Gods Unwanted
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Posted - 2008.03.18 12:18:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Lars Lodar
Always honor ransoms
Always honor 1v1
Always show sportsmanship and have a good attitude whether you win or loose.
All the above will make you more money as a pirate than going against it and getting a bad rep. Only one thing i will not do anymore is 1v1. They are never honored 9 times out of 10.
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Hanso Sparxx
Robotics Development
Shadow-Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.18 16:41:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Hanso Sparxx on 18/03/2008 16:42:18
Pirate code:
10 Scramble(-20)
20 Shoot=[target1]
30 LootWreck
40 goto 10
*edit syntax error*
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Tchell Dahhn
Deny Reality
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Posted - 2008.03.18 16:51:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Tchell Dahhn on 18/03/2008 16:52:06
Originally by: Hanso Sparxx
Pirate code:
10 Scramble(-20)
20 Shoot=[target1]
30 LootWreck
40 goto 10
I upgraded your code for multiple targets:
Dim X as Integer
Dim TARGET(100) as Integer
For X = 1 To TARGET()
If TARGET(X) <> Dead
Shoot TARGET(X)
Else
Loot TARGET(X)
EndIf
X = X + 1
Next X
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Lohpan Sparxx
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.18 17:20:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Lohpan Sparxx on 18/03/2008 17:21:13
My code is ancient... But that's all that will run on Minmatar ships...
*edit* dang noob alt account...
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Elles D
Shikyo Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.18 17:54:00 -
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People talk of taking time to ransom and its problems, for me time is not a problem. You set a price, give them 20 seconds to pay and if by then they havn't blow them up.
If your jumped in that 20 secnods and die i say c'est la vie, they deserved it for such a quick response 
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MirrorGod
Heretic Army
DeStInY.
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Posted - 2008.03.18 23:18:00 -
[59]
Heretic Nation Piracy Code
Recruitment: [ANTI]
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The Jam
Wise Guys
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2008.03.19 02:46:00 -
[60]
Originally by: kublai
I got me two rules.
I dont dishonor a 1v1
I dont dishonor a ransom
Oh and, if i'm speaking on behalf of my corporation i'm probably not lying (as in, if I tell you we will escort your freighter in exchange for something, we actually will).
Barr that though, party in my wallet.
This is the code.
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