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Emilie Storm Green Lantern Corps	Posted - 2008.03.16 18:58:00 - [1] Hello pirates, I am trying to probe down mission runners using snoop scanner probes (I am within 5au of the mission runner I want to track) and I am having a lot of trouble getting a lock. So I was wondering if it is a lost cause to probe mission runners in deadspace or if there is an easier method of probing them. Thanks for your time.
Emilie Storm Green Lantern Corps	Posted - 2008.03.16 19:04:00 - [2] To elaborate further: I heard by scanning cosmic anomolies you can scan the deadspace pockets themselves. If this is true is it more feasible to use this method?
Kahega Amielden Legacy Syndicate space weaponry and trade	Posted - 2008.03.16 19:06:00 - [3] 1) I don't -think- you can find mission deadspaces by scanning for anomalies...not 100% on that though 2)Scan for drones AND ships. 3) If you're within 4 AU of them, fit a scan probe launcher and use Quest probes corresponding to the target's sensor strength (Magno for gallente, grav for caldari, ladar for min, radar for amarr).
Emilie Storm Green Lantern Corps	Posted - 2008.03.16 19:10:00 - [4] You can scan for ships using the explorer probes? Because those quest probes require the scan probe launcher instead of the recon probe launcher. It would be awesome if you are right because this would make things a lot easier. Also note that I do scan ship and drones.
Emilie Storm Green Lantern Corps	Posted - 2008.03.16 19:16:00 - [5] Giving the quest probes a shot now - here's hoping it works. I am within 4au of this guy and i am eager to probe my first mission runner.
Kahega Amielden Legacy Syndicate space weaponry and trade	Posted - 2008.03.16 19:24:00 - [6] Yes. If you use the right quest probe, you'll have 250 points of scan strength, compared to 11 (lol) scan strength for the Snoop. Quest probes will always or almost always hit the target.
sov68n True Foundation	Posted - 2008.03.16 19:34:00 - [7] Quest probes don't find ships, they find deadspace complexes. Only scan probes can find ships. A Quest probe scans for different scan signatures that are linked to different types of plexes, not the different scanner types of ships.
Emilie Storm Green Lantern Corps	Posted - 2008.03.16 19:53:00 - [8] See that was the problem I had with the help channel - differing arguments as to whether quest probes were allowed to track ships or not. I am giving it a try. after all the disadvantage of quest probes is the much higher can time needed to use a scan probe launcher.
Kahega Amielden Legacy Syndicate space weaponry and trade	Posted - 2008.03.16 19:56:00 - [9] You don't know what you're talking about, sov. The only thing that affects whether you find something or not is the scan strength and the other stats displayed on the probe itself. There is no magical, hidden "Can find ships" or "Can find deadspace complexes" modifier on any probe. I know this because I have found many ships using quest probes myself.
Ridley Tree The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.03.16 19:58:00 - [10] Originally by: sov68n Quest probes don't find ships, they find deadspace complexes. Only scan probes can find ships. A Quest probe scans for different scan signatures that are linked to different types of plexes, not the different scanner types of ships. You are simply wrong and need to stop talking. ____ Black Rabbits Recruitment
Emilie Storm Green Lantern Corps	Posted - 2008.03.16 19:59:00 - [11] That's good to hear. I can't fathom how else to scan down a ship in deadspace with the 100 times penalty. A snoop has an effective scan strength of 0.2 when scanning deadspace.
Bellum Eternus Death of Virtue Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.03.16 20:03:00 - [12] convo me in game. 99% of the people in eve don't know wtf they're talking about. i'll help you out. Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y I I
VicturusTeSaluto Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.03.16 21:41:00 - [13] Originally by: Bellum Eternus convo me in game. 99% of the people in eve don't know wtf they're talking about. i'll help you out. Listen to this dude Rufus, he knows what he's talking about.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:46:00 - [14] Originally by: Bellum Eternus convo me in game. 99% of the people in eve don't know wtf they're talking about. i'll help you out. 99% of statistics are made up. ------------ Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
General Coochie The Bastards	Posted - 2008.03.17 00:49:00 - [15] Use exploration probes no matter what anyone else say. Anyone saying otherwise have no clue what they are talking about. The Vigil and The Caracal (duo PvP movie)
doctorstupid2 Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.17 02:56:00 - [16] Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Originally by: Bellum Eternus convo me in game. 99% of the people in eve don't know wtf they're talking about. i'll help you out. Listen to this dude Rufus, he knows what he's talking about. no he doesn't, bellum is a trembling sack of nubsauce MOVIES: Deadspace Deadspace 2
Bellum Eternus Death of Virtue Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.03.17 02:58:00 - [17] Originally by: doctorstupid2 Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Originally by: Bellum Eternus convo me in game. 99% of the people in eve don't know wtf they're talking about. i'll help you out. Listen to this dude Rufus, he knows what he's talking about. no he doesn't, bellum is a trembling sack of nubsauce You wound me to the core. I'm quitting Eve. Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y I I
doctorstupid2 Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.17 03:00:00 - [18] Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 17/03/2008 03:00:03 Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: doctorstupid2 Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Originally by: Bellum Eternus convo me in game. 99% of the people in eve don't know wtf they're talking about. i'll help you out. Listen to this dude Rufus, he knows what he's talking about. no he doesn't, bellum is a trembling sack of nubsauce You wound me to the core. I'm quitting Eve. I miss you already... btw, my BIOS got corrupted, so punch trista in the ** for me plox MOVIES:** Deadspace Deadspace 2
Bellum Eternus Death of Virtue Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.03.17 04:04:00 - [19] Originally by: doctorstupid2 Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 17/03/2008 03:00:03 Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: doctorstupid2 Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Originally by: Bellum Eternus convo me in game. 99% of the people in eve don't know wtf they're talking about. i'll help you out. Listen to this dude Rufus, he knows what he's talking about. no he doesn't, bellum is a trembling sack of nubsauce You wound me to the core. I'm quitting Eve. I miss you already... btw, my BIOS got corrupted, so punch trista in the **** for me plox Oh snap. BTW, how is this related to Trista? LOL. Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y I I
doctorstupid2 Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.17 04:06:00 - [20] Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: doctorstupid2 Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 17/03/2008 03:00:03 Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: doctorstupid2 Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Originally by: Bellum Eternus convo me in game. 99% of the people in eve don't know wtf they're talking about. i'll help you out. Listen to this dude Rufus, he knows what he's talking about. no he doesn't, bellum is a trembling sack of nubsauce You wound me to the core. I'm quitting Eve. I miss you already... btw, my BIOS got corrupted, so punch trista in the ** for me plox Oh snap. BTW, how is this related to Trista? LOL. It's not. But you can't tell me his don't need punching. Just look at 'em, all fat and punchable... they've totally got it coming. MOVIES:** Deadspace Deadspace 2
Bellum Eternus Death of Virtue Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.03.17 05:54:00 - [21] Originally by: doctorstupid2 Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: doctorstupid2 Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 17/03/2008 03:00:03 Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: doctorstupid2 Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Originally by: Bellum Eternus convo me in game. 99% of the people in eve don't know wtf they're talking about. i'll help you out. Listen to this dude Rufus, he knows what he's talking about. no he doesn't, bellum is a trembling sack of nubsauce You wound me to the core. I'm quitting Eve. I miss you already... btw, my BIOS got corrupted, so punch trista in the ** for me plox Oh snap. BTW, how is this related to Trista? LOL. It's not. But you can't tell me his ** don't need punching. Just look at 'em, all fat and punchable... they've totally got it coming. Just ensuring that there wasn't another reason other than the default one. ^-^ Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y I I
Myshella Drake Ward-Tech Industries	Posted - 2008.03.17 08:21:00 - [22] Edited by: Myshella Drake on 17/03/2008 08:24:26 Originally by: General Coochie Use exploration probes no matter what anyone else say. Anyone saying otherwise have no clue what they are talking about. I use spook recon probes and they pay the bills just fine, exploration probes are better but require extra BMs, placing and scanning time. Yes recon probes wont probe inside the deadspace very well but most of the time you can scan down ships sitting at the entrance or haulers looting de-spawned missions...and yes i do have a very good clue what im talking about. ------------------ Proud to stand up for my Profession
General Coochie The Bastards	Posted - 2008.03.17 09:51:00 - [23] Edited by: General Coochie on 17/03/2008 09:51:47 Originally by: Myshella Drake Edited by: Myshella Drake on 17/03/2008 08:27:09 Originally by: General Coochie Use exploration probes no matter what anyone else say. Anyone saying otherwise have no clue what they are talking about. I use spook recon probes and they pay the bills just fine, exploration probes are better but require alot of extra BMs, placing time and scanning time. Yes recon probes wont probe inside the deadspace very well but most of the time you can scan down ships sitting at the entrance or haulers looting de-spawned missions...and yes i do have a very good clue what im talking about. The time invested getting a better place for your probe and the time is takes scanning with an explo probe is worth it. With a snoop you risk sitting probing for 20min. Chance is so low getting a hit, when you get it its more luck then anything else. Not getting a hit with an explo probe is more unlucky. Sitting at the entrance wont give you a better hit then if they are inside the mission. The entrance is part of the deadspace. You can however get good hits should the target just warp out or in. Of course if you can't use explo probes due to range you have to use 2nd best, snoops, fathoms. Ive never actually seen a hauler looting wrecks in low sec, however do they even yield any isk worth probing/attacking? The Vigil and The Caracal (duo PvP movie)
Bad Brown Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.03.17 09:54:00 - [24] Full Sisters virtue set + 5% Prospector scan time and 5% Prospector probe strength hardwirings, Scan probes are for people that just donÆt have the skills and kit. Recons are for the professionals. Mission busting is not just a job; itÆs a way of life.
Sigul Siento Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.17 10:20:00 - [25] Young player though I am, I have learnt that for scanning out people both types of probes have their use. One main distinction being if you are searching for specific people or just want to find anyone in a crowded system.
Caius Sivaris Dark Nexxus	Posted - 2008.03.17 10:27:00 - [26] Originally by: sov68n Quest probes don't find ships, they find deadspace complexes. Only scan probes can find ships. A Quest probe scans for different scan signatures that are linked to different types of plexes, not the different scanner types of ships. Preach it! Mission runners, that Quest nearby you is just someone exploring, never mind the fact you ar 15AU from the nearest planet. You have nothing to fear, docking up would just be believing in silly forums rumors.
General Coochie The Bastards	Posted - 2008.03.17 11:17:00 - [27] Edited by: General Coochie on 17/03/2008 11:19:08 Originally by: Bad Brown Full Sisters virtue set + 5% Prospector scan time and 5% Prospector probe strength hardwirings, Scan probes are for people that just donÆt have the skills and kit. Recons are for the professionals. Mission busting is not just a job; itÆs a way of life. You still have about 11 times lesser chance finding something on each scan then someone who is using quests. Whats your scan time there 20sec? So you do about 7 scans same time someone do 1 explo probe scan. Think its easy to see whats more beneficial in the long run. Lets do some maths anyway. Lets say explo probes has 50% chance finding someone. 1 scans, -> ~2min (130sec my skills) -> 50% finding target. 3 scans, -> ~6.5min -> 87.5% Considering 50% chance on explo, snoops have about 4.2% chance finding the target. 16 scans -> ~5min -> ~50% chance finding target. 48 scans -> 16min -> ~87.5% For some reason ppl think clicking scan more often increase their chances. You can boast about ure skills and kit, fact is someone with crap kit and skill will out probe you with explo probes. Have patience when probing waiting for that 2min probe is worth it if you are under 4 AUs. The Vigil and The Caracal (duo PvP movie)
sliver 0xD exiles.	Posted - 2008.03.17 11:24:00 - [28] Originally by: General Coochie Edited by: General Coochie on 17/03/2008 11:19:08 Originally by: Bad Brown Full Sisters virtue set + 5% Prospector scan time and 5% Prospector probe strength hardwirings, Scan probes are for people that just donÆt have the skills and kit. Recons are for the professionals. Mission busting is not just a job; itÆs a way of life. You still have about 11 times lesser chance finding something on each scan then someone who is using quests. Whats your scan time there 20sec? So you do about 7 scans same time someone do 1 explo probe scan. Think its easy to see whats more beneficial in the long run. Lets do some maths anyway. Lets say explo probes has 50% chance finding someone. 1 scans, -> ~2min (130sec my skills) -> 50% finding target. 3 scans, -> ~6.5min -> 87.5% Considering 50% chance on explo, snoops have about 4.2% chance finding the target. 16 scans -> ~5min -> ~50% chance finding target. 48 scans -> 16min -> ~87.5% For some reason ppl think clicking scan more often increase their chances. You can boast about ure skills and kit, fact is someone with crap kit and skill will out probe you with explo probes. Have patience when probing waiting for that 2min probe is worth it if you are under 4 AUs. and with drones out on the target u got 5x more chance of hitting a drone :) mission runners with drones out rule. thing is with the quest u usaly are not in range. i use the spooks 20au covering a hole system in 1 probe. and the spook probe lives longer. --- Somebody needs a hug!
Bad Brown Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.03.17 13:31:00 - [29] Edited by: Bad Brown on 17/03/2008 13:31:59 Originally by: General Coochie Edited by: General Coochie on 17/03/2008 11:19:08 Originally by: Bad Brown Full Sisters virtue set + 5% Prospector scan time and 5% Prospector probe strength hardwirings, Scan probes are for people that just donÆt have the skills and kit. Recons are for the professionals. Mission busting is not just a job; itÆs a way of life. You still have about 11 times lesser chance finding something on each scan then someone who is using quests. Whats your scan time there 20sec? So you do about 7 scans same time someone do 1 explo probe scan. Think its easy to see whats more beneficial in the long run. Lets do some maths anyway. Lets say explo probes has 50% chance finding someone. 1 scans, -> ~2min (130sec my skills) -> 50% finding target. 3 scans, -> ~6.5min -> 87.5% Considering 50% chance on explo, snoops have about 4.2% chance finding the target. 16 scans -> ~5min -> ~50% chance finding target. 48 scans -> 16min -> ~87.5% For some reason ppl think clicking scan more often increase their chances. You can boast about ure skills and kit, fact is someone with crap kit and skill will out probe you with explo probes. Have patience when probing waiting for that 2min probe is worth it if you are under 4 AUs. For some reason ppl think clicking scan more often increase their chances. You can boast about ure skills and kit, fact is someone with crap kit and skill will out probe you with explo probes. Have patience when probing waiting for that 2min probe is worth it if you are under 4 AUs. When you are spending time trying to get within 4 au, I'm already in the mission. You are virtually guaranteed to find the ship with a scan probe first scan, this is true, but on average I will be in missions faster using snoops. Not just because I donÆt need to get so close, but also because my snoops find ships fast. Out of the last 50 missions probed out I have only had to drop a second probe 5 times, so you could say 1 in 10. Most ships are picked up within 3 scans As you well know its all about bookmarks. I have a ship set up with a sisters probe launcher and one with a recon launcher. On paper scan probes look better, but just donÆt cut it unless you have 200+ bookmarks in each and every system in eve. Even then you can be struggling to get within 10 au far less 4 au. As for the %, forget it. It donÆt always work that way. Dunno what causes it but I can put a spook out sometimes and catch the same ship everytime. Last night I got a hit on a drake 12/12 when looking for good bookmarks àààà. He was busy doing a ôworlds collideö
General Coochie The Bastards	Posted - 2008.03.17 16:55:00 - [30] Originally by: Bad Brown and with drones out on the target u got 5x more chance of hitting a drone :) mission runners with drones out rule. thing is with the quest u usaly are not in range. i use the spooks 20au covering a hole system in 1 probe. and the spook probe lives longer. Yeah but same goes for explo probes if they got drones out, then a explo probe almost guarantee a hit. I totally agree that recons have their use, and I carry both in my cargo hold. If you haven't been in the system much and dont have many BMs you need recon probes. Personally I would advice getting as many BMS in the busy systems as you can (its not like all systems in eve are mission runner paradise, there are systems commonly visited by mission runners), as it will increase the number of ppl you manage to probe out by a lot. However if you can easily get under 4AUs explo probes are better. I can admit to not use recon probes often because every time I do it takes forever to locate someone. I remember one time probing for a BC (no drones) with a corp mate, he was about 4.5 Aus away. And we spent 30min probing never getting a hit. Unlucky for sure. Sure being lucky you can get hits more often, as I said getting a hit sooner with recons are more about luck, getting it later with explo is unlucky. If you say that the chance to get a hit with recons is 10% keep in mind explo probes would still have about 10 times higher chance getting the hit. A fathoms chance is about 25 times lower. And Im actually surprised to see someone say that they manage to probe mission runners with the 20 au probes, that would have a 50 times lower chance finding the target then a quest. And 4 times less chance then a snoop. I find it troublesome enough to probe someone with fathoms. Yes if they have drones it easier. I find that there is actually quite many mission runners that don't use drones though. So you can't rely on it. The Vigil and The Caracal (duo PvP movie)

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