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Trista Rotnor Death of Virtue Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.03.19 05:14:00 - [61] I haven't read the OP or any other posts but I got mentioned and <3 you doc I miss your secksy (fix your bios and come back plox. Listen to bellum and doc as they do know how to probe missions runners and on a side note I do too!
Murder Love Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.03.19 07:26:00 - [62] I only use recon probes to make bookmarks or when I absolutely cant get into Quest range. Anyone saying that Spook probes are reliable dosent know what they are talking about.. I have scanned people with a spook b4, but its usually a freak occurance or you get a hit b4 they are in the dedspace(midwarp). If you are uberl33t and have 2 probers, then recons might be worth it.
Bad Brown Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.03.19 13:57:00 - [63] Originally by: Windorian I assure you, using snoops to scan mission runners is nearly impossible. 60+ battleship/battlecruisers dead, 20+ ransomed, 1 domi pilot left ship (free t2 fit domi for us) and 1 mining barge pilot left ship (free mining barge for us) in the last 3-4 weeks. All this says you are wrong about snoops. Yes, scan probes work great, but recons rock when you donÆt have a shed load of bookmarks and it is normal to catch a ship within 3 scans (= 64.4) seconds with a snoop, if you have maxed skills and implants. But please keep it up, It would be great if mission runners ignored snoops.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.03.19 14:16:00 - [64] Originally by: Murder Love I only use recon probes to make bookmarks or when I absolutely cant get into Quest range. Anyone saying that Spook probes are reliable dosent know what they are talking about.. I have scanned people with a spook b4, but its usually a freak occurance or you get a hit b4 they are in the dedspace(midwarp). If you are uberl33t and have 2 probers, then recons might be worth it. Recons normally land me right on the target, even with spooks. I've gotten hits on stuff with spooks that i couldn't get a hit on with a snoop before it expired, and I didn't have anything else to load up at the time... It's all chance based, but not all that bad... scan probing is not in any way difficult, just takes some patience sometimes ------------ Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
Tyrell Foehammer Veni Vidi Vici. XIII Legio	Posted - 2008.03.19 19:47:00 - [65] Originally by: Bad Brown Originally by: Windorian I assure you, using snoops to scan mission runners is nearly impossible. 60+ battleship/battlecruisers dead, 20+ ransomed, 1 domi pilot left ship (free t2 fit domi for us) and 1 mining barge pilot left ship (free mining barge for us) in the last 3-4 weeks. All this says you are wrong about snoops. Yes, scan probes work great, but recons rock when you donÆt have a shed load of bookmarks and it is normal to catch a ship within 3 scans (= 64.4) seconds with a snoop, if you have maxed skills and implants. But please keep it up, It would be great if mission runners ignored snoops. Amen. I don't care what people argue about here, % chance and what not, I know what happened when probes are out. I use spooks and drop several around and scan, it's nice to have quick scans and not wait forever between scans.
The Scarred Hedion University	Posted - 2008.03.19 20:09:00 - [66] the only problem with using explo probes to scan ships out is the time they take, other than that they work great.
The Scarred Hedion University	Posted - 2008.03.19 20:15:00 - [67] Originally by: Windorian I assure you, using snoops to scan mission runners is nearly impossible. I assure you this is total nonsense
doctorstupid2 Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.19 22:34:00 - [68] Originally by: Trista Rotnor I haven't read the OP or any other posts but I got mentioned and <3 you doc I miss your secksy (fix your bios and come back plox. Listen to bellum and doc as they do know how to probe missions runners and on a side note I do too! with any luck my new motherboard will ship tomorrow, and I'll have my computer back together on friday, and then we can cuddle MOVIES: Deadspace Deadspace 2
General Coochie The Bastards	Posted - 2008.03.20 00:00:00 - [69] Edited by: General Coochie on 20/03/2008 00:01:08 Originally by: Bad Brown Originally by: Windorian I assure you, using snoops to scan mission runners is nearly impossible. 60+ battleship/battlecruisers dead, 20+ ransomed, 1 domi pilot left ship (free t2 fit domi for us) and 1 mining barge pilot left ship (free mining barge for us) in the last 3-4 weeks. All this says you are wrong about snoops. Yes, scan probes work great, but recons rock when you donÆt have a shed load of bookmarks and it is normal to catch a ship within 3 scans (= 64.4) seconds with a snoop, if you have maxed skills and implants. But please keep it up, It would be great if mission runners ignored snoops. The question is how many you'd get using exploration probes for the mish runners under 4 AUs. Thats whats interesting. Pretty hard to know yes. I think you are alone getting hits normally on 3 scans with a recon snoop probe (maybe on BS with drones out) but what about BCs, HACs?. And I don't just talk from my own experience but from corp mates, and other ppls as well. Maybe you are just a lucky bastard? The Vigil and The Caracal (duo PvP movie)
Murder Love Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.03.20 01:37:00 - [70] Originally by: techzer0 Originally by: Murder Love I only use recon probes to make bookmarks or when I absolutely cant get into Quest range. Anyone saying that Spook probes are reliable dosent know what they are talking about.. I have scanned people with a spook b4, but its usually a freak occurance or you get a hit b4 they are in the dedspace(midwarp). If you are uberl33t and have 2 probers, then recons might be worth it. Recons normally land me right on the target, even with spooks. I've gotten hits on stuff with spooks that i couldn't get a hit on with a snoop before it expired, and I didn't have anything else to load up at the time... It's all chance based, but not all that bad... scan probing is not in any way difficult, just takes some patience sometimes I completely agree that they can work. Sometimes spooks will find targets on the 1st scan(and go against the math completely). Its just the "reliable" part that I'm arguing. Quest probes aren't dependent on luck, but your ability to get into range in a reasonable amount of time.
doctorstupid2 Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.20 03:45:00 - [71] Originally by: Murder Love Quest probes aren't dependent on luck, but your ability to get into range in a reasonable amount of time. Sums it up perfectly. More preperation required, more reliable, tool of choice for stalkers. Recons can be used on the fly (pardon the pun), excellent for targets of opportunity. TBH this turned into one of the more informative mission-busting threads I've seen to date, lots of imput from a lot of people MOVIES: Deadspace Deadspace 2
Oddies Mojo Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:06:00 - [72] Originally by: doctorstupid2 Originally by: Murder Love Quest probes aren't dependent on luck, but your ability to get into range in a reasonable amount of time. Sums it up perfectly. More preperation required, more reliable, tool of choice for stalkers. Recons can be used on the fly (pardon the pun), excellent for targets of opportunity. TBH this turned into one of the more informative mission-busting threads I've seen to date, lots of imput from a lot of people Indeed, some nice info from various viewpoints for an aspiring scan prober like myself. Skills need to train faster already!
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:51:00 - [73] Snoops are fine for non-deadspace areas. If the targets are in deadspace, your chances are slim to pick them up. That being said, if you're not looking for a specific target, ie. war target and are going for anyone you can get and you're using recon probes, just add stations and stargates to the overview. Then when you get hits back, you can disregard the ones at the same range as stations and stargates. Also, if you're hunting a specific target using recon probes and you're watching them undock to start the mission, drop the probe about 3-4 seconds after they enter warp. You should be able to catch them prior to landing in deadspace, then you will have a closer starting point and you can BM the spot and swap to quest probes.
Gem Gafaar The Yarr Birds	Posted - 2008.03.28 16:50:00 - [74] I've been practising with both types and I'm still making up my mind as to which is the better, so I'll not give an opinion yet. What I would like to ask is how people actually take on the Mission runners. Do you probe in a cheap ship until you find a runner, then swap your ship at a local station with something a little sexier with bigger guns? The reason I ask is I found a gate to a mission today and bookmarked it. I swapped my ship and then headed back to the gate only to find it not there! Did I balls this up? I guess I'm missing some details at the moment.
Joe Starbreaker Starbreaker Spaceways Nex Eternus	Posted - 2008.03.28 17:11:00 - [75] Originally by: Gem Gafaar What I would like to ask is how people actually take on the Mission runners. Do you probe in a cheap ship until you find a runner, then swap your ship at a local station with something a little sexier with bigger guns? First of all, it depends whether you're in high-sec or lowsec. Second, it's much easier with a team. In highsec, get right in there with a salvager-fit Heron (not the one you probed with, which has expensive probes in the cargo) and start salvaging. The guy will see what he thinks is a newbie thief. Steal some loot once he's good and angry, get him to shoot you, then warp away. Now you have 15 minutes to fly back there in your battleship and pwn him. Of course it would be even better if you, the prober, were still cloaked, while a corpmate flew the "bait" heron, and your other corpmates were cloaked in battleships on the acceleration gate waiting for the red flashy. In lowsec I think you just need to be quick and F1-F8. If they detect you, they'll run away and dock, so you'd better probe in a covert ops and have your friends with the battleships ready to warp in instantly when you get a target.
Mozqito Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.03.28 17:20:00 - [76] Originally by: Gem Gafaar The reason I ask is I found a gate to a mission today and bookmarked it. I swapped my ship and then headed back to the gate only to find it not there! Did I balls this up? He most likely just finished the mission.
doctorstupid2 Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.28 22:08:00 - [77] Originally by: Gem Gafaar What I would like to ask is how people actually take on the Mission runners. Do you probe in a cheap ship until you find a runner, then swap your ship at a local station with something a little sexier with bigger guns? I probe with a second account in a not cheap covops, warp to gang member, commence grief. metagaming at is finest, I suppose Though I do know people that probe and kill with the same char, by either switching ships or managing to shoe-horn a probe launcher into their ship of choice. Deadspace2 \| Deadspace \| Fun in FAT-
Nupe The Dark Side of the Moon	Posted - 2008.03.28 23:29:00 - [78] This thread has been very very helpful. I've used Quest's whenever I can get within 4 au and that is infinitely better than the recon probes.
General Coochie	Posted - 2008.03.29 17:09:00 - [79] Originally by: Gem Gafaar What I would like to ask is how people actually take on the Mission runners. Do you probe in a cheap ship until you find a runner, then swap your ship at a local station with something a little sexier with bigger guns? :ugh:] Probe in covops, switch ships to arazu or lachesis. True sansha warp disruptor for a nice 67.2 km scram range. And they cant fight back Alt in harbinger (soon to be apoc or geddon) for the dps. Handles most things at the moment, have some difficulties against really good passive tanks but should be alright once alt gets in BS. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. The Vigil and The Caracal (duo PvP movie)
Gem Gafaar	Posted - 2008.03.29 18:02:00 - [80] Thanks for the reply. As soon as I've upgraded my PC so it can run my two characters at the same time I'll give it a go. Good thread. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

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