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Darwin Duck
Ark Royals
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Posted - 2008.03.17 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: Mattikus
Originally by: ghost st Maybe faulty graphics card is to blame? I can run multiple clients with decent gfx settings on my 8800 and it runs 40-50C.
Some suggestions
- Make sure your graphics card has a fan when buying it, i haven't the slightest idea why but they still sell gfx cards w/o fans.
- Make sure to clean out you fans regularly, a fan wont do **** when its caked full of dust. And can get especially bad if you smoke.
- Make sure your computer has enough fans, you should have at a minimum (not including the power supply fan) of 2 fans. A 120mm in the front, and another 120mm in the rear usually does good. A side air vent also helps, and if you have video card cooling problems on most cases you can remove the cone in there and put in another fan
- Make sure your pc has plenty of room, it needs room to curculate the air. If youare putting your pc into one of those cubbyhole tpye desks your pc will turn into just an expensive space heater
If its still hot after that you can try a few things.
- Get some decent thermal paste, (arctic silver works pretty well) and apply it to your gpu heatsink.
- If your gpu fan seems a little wimpy you may want to replace it with something a little beefier.
- Check your bios settings, and make sure that they dont have your cpu/gpu overclocked by default. Ive had some bad experiences with amd-based pcs coming overclocked out of the box
Exactly what he said....I play eve with nhancer to force high aa and af and my temps are just fine. I have a 8600 gts and the game is extremely playable and looks gorgeous. But its a Dell 
Check the temp in stations, not in space. Big difference!! And all his tips are check here.
Fan check, cleaned check. maxi-tower check, rest check. Do I have heat problems in anything but EVE, NO.
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Darwin Duck
Ark Royals
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Posted - 2008.03.17 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: Darthirishguy I don't think anyone has said it yet (only glanced at posts), but if you set that interval delay thingy to 1(i think 1) it enables Vsync and stops the stupid overheating.
Has worked for a few so far. Use the search button 
Tried it, didn't help!
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Darthirishguy
Spartan Industries Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.17 01:37:00 -
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Hate to have to suggest it but you can always run in classic mode 
Have you tried downloading rivatuner and setting your fanspeed higher/moving your card away from hotter parts of your motherboard?
I bought a new card a month or so ago and it was running at stupid temps till i realised it was right on top of my flaming hot chipset
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Darwin Duck
Ark Royals
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Posted - 2008.03.17 01:43:00 -
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Edited by: Darwin Duck on 17/03/2008 01:43:12
Originally by: Darthirishguy Hate to have to suggest it but you can always run in classic mode 
Have you tried downloading rivatuner and setting your fanspeed higher/moving your card away from hotter parts of your motherboard?
I bought a new card a month or so ago and it was running at stupid temps till i realised it was right on top of my flaming hot chipset
The southbridge chip close to my GFX card is running at 29oC, so thats not it. Don't think Riva tuner is working on my card. Remember I tried the latest version at the time a while ago and it wouldn't run, some compatability error msg. I use Ntune, but can't increase the fan speed with Nvidia tune. I have even installed a fan at the backside of the card now as I could feel the card getting hot behind the chip while in stations.
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MrMen
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.17 01:50:00 -
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Really glad it's not just me, running an 8800GT and recently started getting the same heat buildup. Did the standard clean of the heatsink and checked fans etc. Changed the interval to 1 and it helped, but still not running at pre-patch temperatures.
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Darwin Duck
Ark Royals
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Posted - 2008.03.17 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: MrMen Really glad it's not just me, running an 8800GT and recently started getting the same heat buildup. Did the standard clean of the heatsink and checked fans etc. Changed the interval to 1 and it helped, but still not running at pre-patch temperatures.
It did not for me, but a friend of mine dropped from 80oC to 59oC in stations by changing the interval from immidiate to default. For me it did nothing. I checked the driver settings to be sure and it was set to application. I even tryed to force V-sync on in the driver settings but no change for me 
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Mimi Ar'Skele
Republic University
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Posted - 2008.03.17 02:11:00 -
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Thanks, card-saving advice here.
I was looking at low to mid 70C temperatures in stations on my 8800GT -- and summer is coming! Highest of any app outside of atitool's artifact finder (which hit mid 70s).
Enabling the interval default dropped me down to low 50Cs. Frame rates went from upper 200s in stations to a far more sane 85.
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Zytrel
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.17 02:35:00 -
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All I can say is: Get a proper cooler.  Basically all gfx cards come with very poor stock coolers. On my 7900GT replacing the cooler with a proper one reduced the temperature by around 25¦.
Oh, and water cooling is way overrated. 
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FarScape III
Journey On Squad
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Posted - 2008.03.17 03:07:00 -
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That is realy weird. But thanks for the heads up, I would not want to mess up my laptop, so I'll be sure to keep an eye on it thanks for the info, I did not realize.. *** |

MrMen
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.17 04:42:00 -
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Originally by: Zytrel All I can say is: Get a proper cooler.  Basically all gfx cards come with very poor stock coolers. On my 7900GT replacing the cooler with a proper one reduced the temperature by around 25¦.
Oh, and water cooling is way overrated. 
Granted, cooling should always be a priority but the issue here seems to be a sudden, and sometimes drastic, change in operating temperature with the same rigs post patch. I do not have issues with other applications, hence the interest in the possibility of some change causing the issue.
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adrian barbobot
PADDEDCELL
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Posted - 2008.03.17 04:53:00 -
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I think perhaps that some of you with more than 70C temperatures are forgetting to set your card's fan speed to 100%?
Before playing I always set my fan speed to 100% which keeps the temperature below about 65C (on a hot day) or in the 50s on a cooler day. This is an 8800GTX which most of the time is at stock speed. My card will run stable at 650/1050 without too much difference in temperature though... unless I start Crysis up 
By default my card's fan speed is 60% and it does not automatically change its speed regardless of how much work the card is doing.
Another thing I've noticed is that when I have both my clients inside a station the temperature will jump up about 5 degrees and pop back down when I am undocked.
Anyway - these are just my observations. Perhaps some of you might consider bumping your fan speeds up and see if that helps. |

MrMen
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.17 04:56:00 -
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I normally set the fan speed manually to 90% before starting eve as it does like to warm up the card, but again, this recent change is unusual and not consistant with other applications.
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Ryuu Bushi
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Posted - 2008.04.26 13:34:00 -
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Edited by: Ryuu Bushi on 26/04/2008 13:34:23 Changing from Interval Immediate to Interval Default has cured my GFX crashes,
I am now running both my X1950 boxes at default clocks as well as runing lower fan speeds.
thanks to those who posted the info. 
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Illwill Bill
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.04.26 13:39:00 -
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Guys, a computer should be able to run at full load 24/7 without overheating. Anything worse than that is simply bad cooling. |

Shigsy
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.26 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Darthirishguy Hate to have to suggest it but you can always run in classic mode 
Have you tried downloading rivatuner and setting your fanspeed higher/moving your card away from hotter parts of your motherboard?
I bought a new card a month or so ago and it was running at stupid temps till i realised it was right on top of my flaming hot chipset
I can get up to 125 degrees in classic 
But yeah, it only happens in eve. |

Kyra Felann
Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2008.04.26 14:23:00 -
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Games shouldn't make cards overheat. You should look at your cooling situation. Make sure you have enough case fans and make sure you clean out any excess dust.
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Disteeler
Segunda Fundacion T e r c i o s
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Posted - 2008.04.26 14:24:00 -
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Edited by: Disteeler on 26/04/2008 14:28:15 EvE uses shaders 3.0 so more heat because your GPU shader units work at full throttle. for example, Oblivion use shader 2.0, that is, less shader work for the same graphic card so less heat. Very few games use shader 3.0 in fact. It's not EvE's fault, it's manufacturer's fault. I suppose :)
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Blood Daemon
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.04.26 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Darwin Duck
Originally by: Sephrin www.dangerden.com
Water is your friend,
q6600 at 3.2ghz and a 8800GTS at 650, 950, cpu is 22 deg gfx is 25 under load, no i do not heat my house lol
Not really, water cooling is like drugs. You just want more and more. A friend of mine got water cooling, overclocked like crazy, then he had this "great" idea. HE drilled a few holes in the wall and installed the radiator outside in the winter (north of Norway) to cool it even more. And even with anti-freeze in the water the water half froze and something burst. His computer shorted out. Motherboard dead, CPU dead, RAM dead, GFX card dead. It was all water cooled, exept the RAM, but the RAM too was water damaged.
Lets just say he is back to air cooling now 
Why the hell would he put anti-freeze in the water?? I thought it's a special liquid thats NOT to be tamperd with.. am I wrong??, I can't help but think i'm right though, i'm sure i read it somewhere though ------------------
Originally by: Treelox CCP, keep your pimp hand strong!!!!
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.04.26 15:53:00 -
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From an engineering perspective if it's overheating a more efficient way to solve this problem is to add more copper. :-D
Get a bigger heat sink, even under a complete full load a GPU should never overheat. Your heat sink is inadequete.
Go here Miz Stelth Bomerz iz the ****nit.
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Trathen
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Posted - 2008.04.26 17:47:00 -
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Something odd is going on with my cards. I think the official nForce temperature reading is off because I get a reading of 90 degrees Celsius while running EvE, and have ran EvE all day without a single graphic glitch.
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Axel Yulaw
Amarr Otakus Society RONA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.26 18:22:00 -
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My case runs cool, quite, and no glitches. Standard Dual Core system, 4Gb of ram, and an 8800GTS. Been in EVE for about 6 hours now, and my case is like an air conditioner for my office.
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.04.26 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Darwin Duck Guess It's time to get a new 8800GTS, what temps are you guys with 8800 seing on the GPU when playing EVE? I'm not going back to the Trinity 1.0 client
I've got a 8800GT, an Athlon 3700+ and 2 gig of ram. I can run Eve at max settings, Assasin's Creed at max settings (at, say, ~40fps) and other recent games the same. I think it's the best quality/Ç ratio GFX card atm. 2isk
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