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Darwin Duck Ark Royals	Posted - 2008.03.16 19:52:00 - [1] I see my GPU (GF-7900GT) is totally overheating now from EVE. It's up to 78 degrees C while playing EVE and I get GFX glitches, Even Oblivion with high gfx settings can't get it to 60 degrees. (35-38 degrees at deskop. I have tried to turn down the GFX settings, but it doesn't really help, can't get lower than 70 degrees while palying EVE in room temp. I didn't have the GFX problems until today, maybe something happend to the fan on the GPU cooler but it's running, but I just cleaned it and it now and it didn't help. So what I've done now is opened the PC case, put a extra fan infront of the GPU fan to push air towards the GPU fan and opened 3 windows (it's 0 degrees C outside), so I have put on lots of clothes. What we'll do to play this game. Guess It's time to get a new 8800GTS, what temps are you guys with 8800 seing on the GPU when playing EVE? I'm not going back to the Trinity 1.0 client
Marcus TheMartin Deadly Addiction Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.03.16 19:54:00 - [2] Whoa these boosters must be having some bad side effects I think I am seeing posts from the future
Darwin Duck Ark Royals	Posted - 2008.03.16 20:01:00 - [3] Originally by: Marcus TheMartin Whoa these boosters must be having some bad side effects I think I am seeing posts from the future Hehe, The gfx engine is called Trinity 2.0, even though the Trinity expantion is at 1.1 now. The premium client use Trinity 2.0 GFX engine, the old client use Trinity 1.0 gfx engine. Donµt confure the GFX engine version with the expantion version number
LogixCraft Insidious Existence	Posted - 2008.03.16 20:08:00 - [4] aye, I need to take off the case on my lappy in order to run more then 1 client without overheating it. Gotten it up for 90degrees once before I noticed how hot it was getting. Apparently according to tech support I was still in the working temp of my cpu heh. with the gfx try aftermarket drivers, fixed my graphics glitch. ----------------------------- [ 2007.12.05 20:30:54 ] (combat) CCP's premium content strikes you perfectly wrecking for your Boot.ini
Zeba Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.03.16 20:10:00 - [5] Edited by: Zeba on 16/03/2008 20:11:21 78C? Yeow.. And here I thought that my X1950 going from its normal 35C to 42C when playing with the premium gfx was bad. And I hear ya about opening the window. In the summer I have to stick a dryer vent hose I rigged to one of the air vents in my room to funnle the AC into the side of my pc to keep it from overheating. Btw. I see you know how to adapt or die where Eve in concerned. Just don't die of a cold. --------------------- Q: WTF! Why?! A: Because I can. ---------------------
Drusillah Absolutely No Retreat Synchr0nicity	Posted - 2008.03.16 20:17:00 - [6] If you find your 7900 heats up bad, then dont get a 8800 ... you can heat your house in winter with it. I was hitting the tjunction at 95C on my 8800 GTX before I opened the case. Now im hovering around 76-77C. With some DIY ingenuity, I'll drill a hole on the side panel and install a fan.
Cairo dog Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2008.03.16 20:23:00 - [7] I used to hit about 80oC on my old x1950 but I got an 8800GT and it seems to hover around 54oC now which makes me feel safer, that is running the fan at 75% though. ------------------------------------- Rawr
Darwin Duck Ark Royals	Posted - 2008.03.16 20:25:00 - [8] LOL, now I've even underclocked the GPU from 450Mhz to 400 Mhz and it has stabilized at 60 degrees in EVE. YAY, I can play again, I think. CPU overclocked from 2.67GH to 3.2 Ghz is 28 degrees and system is 27 Degrees (clocked from 1333MHz FSB to 1600 FSB), SO I think there is something wrong with my GFX card cooling, but it all looks ok. Can I trust the temps reported by Ntune?
Ryuu Bushi Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.16 20:47:00 - [9] Running 4 clients and Trinity Premium on each leads me to agree with OP 2 machines run without problem - A Laptop with Nvidia 7950GTX and a Athlon 2600+ with a XT1650 agp no crashes. 2 machines run at extreeme tempratures and crash periodically - GPU temps of 70C are not uncommon Both are athlon XP3200+ with XT1950 Pro agp cards Underclocking the GPU helps, leaving the side off the case helps too. anything to keep your hardware cool as the game can warm up your GPU considerably. Download ATI Tray tools and dislay your GPU temp, it will surprise how mush EVE starts cooking the GPU during normal play - Inside stations - well - get out your eggs and bacon, u can cook ur brekkie on ur GPU no probs
Whip Slagcheek Vajayjay	Posted - 2008.03.16 20:50:00 - [10] Display and Graphics [x] advanced settings present interval: interval default (instead of interval immediate)
Meiyang Lee Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.03.16 20:50:00 - [11] Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 16/03/2008 20:50:41 v-sync is your friend (interval One in EVE's settings menu, interval default is the same). EVE is running at very high FPS and is through that causing some heat issues on your computer. (capped out GPU working hard = lots and lots of heat) restricting the FPS really helps keep the GPU cool. Has been doing that since Trinity launched.
Darwin Duck Ark Royals	Posted - 2008.03.16 21:03:00 - [12] I see it's 15 degrees hotter in station than in space and I have turned off "load station environment". Wierd. I have no temp problems at all in space now, 50-55 degrees, but in station its getting close to 70 degrees.
Zeba Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.03.16 21:03:00 - [13] Originally by: Cairo dog I used to hit about 80oC on my old x1950 but I got an 8800GT and it seems to hover around 54oC now which makes me feel safer, that is running the fan at 75% though. Man. I'm so glad I choose the X1950 with a ginormous heatsink then. Was one of the last generation as I was looking for a decent card on the cheap to validate my going overboard on all the other new parts I ordered. --------------------- Q: WTF! Why?! A: Because I can. ---------------------
Ryuu Bushi Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.16 21:05:00 - [14] Hmmm - Intersting, forcing the GFX drivers vsync on has the same effect? As ive been running this standard forever. Ill try the Interval setting and feedback ty
Meiyang Lee Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.03.16 21:10:00 - [15] Originally by: Darwin Duck I see it's 15 degrees hotter in station than in space and I have turned off "load station environment". Wierd. I have no temp problems at all in space now, 50-55 degrees, but in station its getting close to 70 degrees. In station is ridiculously easy to render compared to outside, FPS will go through the roof inside without V-sync, which is where that setting makes the most difference.
Meiyang Lee Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.03.16 21:11:00 - [16] Originally by: Ryuu Bushi Edited by: Ryuu Bushi on 16/03/2008 21:06:48 Hmmm - Intersting, does forcing the GFX drivers "vsync on" have the same effect? As ive been running this set as standard. Ill try the Interval setting and feedback ty I'm guessing forcing V-sync in drivers still lets them be rendered but tells the driver to drop those not needed. Using v-sync ingame actually doesn't render the frames at all, tells the GPU to wait for each frame basically.
Darwin Duck Ark Royals	Posted - 2008.03.16 21:36:00 - [17] Originally by: Meiyang Lee Originally by: Darwin Duck I see it's 15 degrees hotter in station than in space and I have turned off "load station environment". Wierd. I have no temp problems at all in space now, 50-55 degrees, but in station its getting close to 70 degrees. In station is ridiculously easy to render compared to outside, FPS will go through the roof inside without V-sync, which is where that setting makes the most difference. I'm still seing the same temps in station even after changing it from Immidiate to default or One, but a IRL friend dropped from 80 to 59 degrees by doing it, wonder why I can't see temp dropping.
Kaar Art of War	Posted - 2008.03.16 21:44:00 - [18] Originally by: Darwin Duck I'm still seing the same temps in station even after changing it from Immidiate to default or One, but a IRL friend dropped from 80 to 59 degrees by doing it, wonder why I can't see temp dropping. Ive found inside stations to be a massive performance hit since 1.1, even with station environment off (which is now **** btw) im still stuck around 20fps. --- ---
Hermosa Diosas The-Secret-Service Retribution.	Posted - 2008.03.16 21:48:00 - [19] lol for a game thats only part new graphics it sux tbh, i cant play crysis better than this. Not the best engine in the world and not the greatest gfx either
Darwin Duck Ark Royals	Posted - 2008.03.16 21:52:00 - [20] Edited by: Darwin Duck on 16/03/2008 21:53:17 Originally by: Kaar Originally by: Darwin Duck I'm still seing the same temps in station even after changing it from Immidiate to default or One, but a IRL friend dropped from 80 to 59 degrees by doing it, wonder why I can't see temp dropping. Ive found inside stations to be a massive performance hit since 1.1, even with station environment off (which is now **** btw) im still stuck around 20fps. I have it the other way around, I'm doing 50 FPS in station with environment on now, and that heats my GPU, I'd like to restrict the FPS in station, but the interval thing doesn't do it. I don't want more than 30 FPS in station. I'm doing 58-67 outside and then my GPU is cool and fine. Edit, as soon as I sttled in I'm at 67 FPS in station
Darwin Duck Ark Royals	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:47:00 - [21] Devs, can you do something about this before our GPU's melt? Let us restrict FPS in stations to lets say 30 FPS, we don't need any more in there anyway and stations are GPU killers. Please do something about this in the next patch. Thanks!
Meiyang Lee Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.03.16 23:01:00 - [22] Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 16/03/2008 23:02:02 Originally by: Darwin Duck Devs, can you do something about this before our GPU's melt? Let us restrict FPS in stations to lets say 30 FPS, we don't need any more in there anyway and stations are GPU killers. Please do something about this in the next patch. Thanks! Just thought of something, setting it to interval two should help there. (although, again, effect on core temp is unknown) that should cut you down to 30 FPS. Also, re-enable the station-environment, turning it off may interfere a bit.
ghost st The Scope	Posted - 2008.03.16 23:07:00 - [23] Maybe faulty graphics card is to blame? I can run multiple clients with decent gfx settings on my 8800 and it runs 40-50C. Some suggestions - Make sure your graphics card has a fan when buying it, i haven't the slightest idea why but they still sell gfx cards w/o fans. - Make sure to clean out you fans regularly, a fan wont do **** when its caked full of dust. And can get especially bad if you smoke. - Make sure your computer has enough fans, you should have at a minimum (not including the power supply fan) of 2 fans. A 120mm in the front, and another 120mm in the rear usually does good. A side air vent also helps, and if you have video card cooling problems on most cases you can remove the cone in there and put in another fan - Make sure your pc has plenty of room, it needs room to curculate the air. If youare putting your pc into one of those cubbyhole tpye desks your pc will turn into just an expensive space heater If its still hot after that you can try a few things. - Get some decent thermal paste, (arctic silver works pretty well) and apply it to your gpu heatsink. - If your gpu fan seems a little wimpy you may want to replace it with something a little beefier. - Check your bios settings, and make sure that they dont have your cpu/gpu overclocked by default. Ive had some bad experiences with amd-based pcs coming overclocked out of the box
Darwin Duck Ark Royals	Posted - 2008.03.16 23:17:00 - [24] Ghost read the thread Lots of people have the same heat problems using premium, and I only have heat problems in EVE, I can't reach 60oC in oblivion even with GFX high and I have no problems with heat in space, but stay in a station for a while and all hell is loose
Sephrin Imperium Forces Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.03.17 00:54:00 - [25] www.dangerden.com Water is your friend, q6600 at 3.2ghz and a 8800GTS at 650, 950, cpu is 22 deg gfx is 25 under load, no i do not heat my house lol
Darwin Duck Ark Royals	Posted - 2008.03.17 01:13:00 - [26] Originally by: Sephrin www.dangerden.com Water is your friend, q6600 at 3.2ghz and a 8800GTS at 650, 950, cpu is 22 deg gfx is 25 under load, no i do not heat my house lol Not really, water cooling is like drugs. You just want more and more. A friend of mine got water cooling, overclocked like crazy, then he had this "great" idea. HE drilled a few holes in the wall and installed the radiator outside in the winter (north of Norway) to cool it even more. And even with anti-freeze in the water the water half froze and something burst. His computer shorted out. Motherboard dead, CPU dead, RAM dead, GFX card dead. It was all water cooled, exept the RAM, but the RAM too was water damaged. Lets just say he is back to air cooling now
Leilani Solaris Auriga inc	Posted - 2008.03.17 01:21:00 - [27] 95 Degrees C apparently on my 8800GTS Never dies on me though so whatever
Sephrin Imperium Forces Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.03.17 01:22:00 - [28] Originally by: Darwin Duck Originally by: Sephrin www.dangerden.com Water is your friend, q6600 at 3.2ghz and a 8800GTS at 650, 950, cpu is 22 deg gfx is 25 under load, no i do not heat my house lol Not really, water cooling is like drugs. You just want more and more. A friend of mine got water cooling, overclocked like crazy, then he had this "great" idea. HE drilled a few holes in the wall and installed the radiator outside in the winter (north of Norway) to cool it even more. And even with anti-freeze in the water the water half froze and something burst. His computer shorted out. Motherboard dead, CPU dead, RAM dead, GFX card dead. It was all water cooled, exept the RAM, but the RAM too was water damaged. All i can say is wow, that sucks, i will preface my first comment with, If you dont get stupid, no offense to your friend, he should have found phase change lol but yes, eve is alot harder on equipment that any other mmo i have played, tph most others are a joke Lets just say he is back to air cooling now
Mattikus Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.17 01:23:00 - [29] Originally by: ghost st Maybe faulty graphics card is to blame? I can run multiple clients with decent gfx settings on my 8800 and it runs 40-50C. Some suggestions - Make sure your graphics card has a fan when buying it, i haven't the slightest idea why but they still sell gfx cards w/o fans. - Make sure to clean out you fans regularly, a fan wont do **** when its caked full of dust. And can get especially bad if you smoke. - Make sure your computer has enough fans, you should have at a minimum (not including the power supply fan) of 2 fans. A 120mm in the front, and another 120mm in the rear usually does good. A side air vent also helps, and if you have video card cooling problems on most cases you can remove the cone in there and put in another fan - Make sure your pc has plenty of room, it needs room to curculate the air. If youare putting your pc into one of those cubbyhole tpye desks your pc will turn into just an expensive space heater If its still hot after that you can try a few things. - Get some decent thermal paste, (arctic silver works pretty well) and apply it to your gpu heatsink. - If your gpu fan seems a little wimpy you may want to replace it with something a little beefier. - Check your bios settings, and make sure that they dont have your cpu/gpu overclocked by default. Ive had some bad experiences with amd-based pcs coming overclocked out of the box Exactly what he said....I play eve with nhancer to force high aa and af and my temps are just fine. I have a 8600 gts and the game is extremely playable and looks gorgeous. But its a Dell
Darthirishguy Spartan Industries Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.17 01:31:00 - [30] I don't think anyone has said it yet (only glanced at posts), but if you set that interval delay thingy to 1(i think 1) it enables Vsync and stops the stupid overheating. Has worked for a few so far. Use the search button

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