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Szent AdamKiraly Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:23:00 - [1] EVE radio adverts are a scam. I filled out an application and paid the fee for an EVE radio advert in early December. There has been no advert made. I have attempted to get a refund by contacting the EVE radio advert manager, but I just get the run around. Based on my multiple attempts to get my isk back yielding no result, I am calling this a scam. It would be my recommendation not to use this service as you will probably never see an advert or your isk returned.
MrBlades Eve Radio Corporation Eve Radio Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:28:00 - [2] If you're having trouble getting in touch with someone in adverts, pop onto irc and have a word with me and I'll sort it for you.
DJTempest3K Eve Radio Corporation Eve Radio Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:28:00 - [3] Szent AdamKiraly, We have a large number of customers who have never had issues with our advertising service. If you would be kind enough to contact me directly, I will look into this for you. My apologies for the issues you have experienced. Tempest General Manager Gaming Radio Network www.gamingradio.net
Szent AdamKiraly Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:29:00 - [4] Edited by: Szent AdamKiraly on 16/03/2008 22:32:09 For some reason your irc doesnt work for me. I am tired of jumping through hoops to get my isk back. It has been 3 or 4 months. If you want to give me my isk back just send it to me, or contact me via EVE-mail/convo.
Mirph Viziam	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:32:00 - [5] Originally by: Szent AdamKiraly For some reason your iirc doesnt work for me. I am tired of jumping through hoops to get my isk back. It has been 3 or 4 months. Tempest just gave you a link to his e-mail address, I suggest you use it THEN bump this thread if results are negative.
Codey28 Eve Radio Corporation Eve Radio Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:33:00 - [6] As stated in the ingame convo i had with this player, i provided email address for him to contact to get a refund for the advert placed with GRN. Quote"[21:59:00] fothern > I dont really want to tab out of EVE" repeatedly told you the email address to get a refund.
Szent AdamKiraly Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:35:00 - [7] Great customer service there. I gotta email you for a service you say you provide but dont.. here its easy.. give me my isk back. If this truly isnt a scam I will gladly retract, but until proving otherwise I am calling it what it is.
Mirph Viziam	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:37:00 - [8] Originally by: Szent AdamKiraly Edited by: Szent AdamKiraly on 16/03/2008 22:35:30 Great customer service there. I gotta email you for a service you say you provide but dont.. here its easy.. give me my isk back. If this truly isnt a scam I will gladly retract, but until proven otherwise I am calling it what it is. How about you get off your high horse and e-mail, if you're that *****y about some isk, e-mail. Stop complaining till you've done that.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:38:00 - [9] lol The drama is strong in here ------------ Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
Szent AdamKiraly Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:39:00 - [10] Because I have been posting on their forums already. I know ill just get the run around if I send an email. I have been posting on their forums since December asking about the advert/refund. http://forums.gamingradio.net/showthread.php?t=1814
Mirph Viziam	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:41:00 - [11] Originally by: Szent AdamKiraly Because I have been posting on their forums already. I know ill just get the run around if I send an email. I have been posting on their forums since December asking about the advert/refund. http://forums.gamingradio.net/showthread.php?t=1814 Originally by: GRN Forums Please bear with me, if you feel this is not good enough and would like a refund please send me a mail [email address] Codey28 Did you do that?(Email them)
Szent AdamKiraly Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:46:00 - [12] No, why should I email them? I was first told to go on irc.. didn't work for me. I was then told by EVE Radio to post on their forums, so I registered and posted on their forums with no result. Im tired of contacting them. Its simple, either I am refunded and this isnt a scam, or it is and thus I wish to inform the EVE community.
Setana Manoro Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:48:00 - [13] Edited by: Setana Manoro on 16/03/2008 22:49:57 Originally by: Mirph Originally by: Szent AdamKiraly Because I have been posting on their forums already. I know ill just get the run around if I send an email. I have been posting on their forums since December asking about the advert/refund. http://forums.gamingradio.net/showthread.php?t=1814 Originally by: GRN Forums Please bear with me, if you feel this is not good enough and would like a refund please send me a mail [email address] Codey28 Did you do that?(Email them) It looks like that is their official forum, are you trying to say that after telling them for 3-4 months of this problem on their official forum he should give out more info ? Dude, if this were me, i'd have yelled scam since January. PS: I don't think this was a scam, it would be stupid to think of it as such, but i can't see how he should do any more.
masumi vega Perkone	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:50:00 - [14] I would say he dosent really have a case at all if he isnt even willing to email them. I say don't give him his isk back just because we had to listen to his whining.
Setana Manoro Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:51:00 - [15] Originally by: masumi vega I would say he dosent really have a case at all if he isnt even willing to email them. I say don't give him his isk back just because we had to listen to his whining. I just love the npc corp alts, that all of the sudden managed to find this thread. :) He posted on their forum since the 19th of December 2007, that's almost 4 full months.
MrBlades Eve Radio Corporation Eve Radio Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.16 22:59:00 - [16] Just for clairty, he asked for an update on 19th december. Response on 22nd December explained the delay and it was suggested that if he wanted to get a refund he could do so by email the address provided. The fact that after 4 months he hadn't done it is not the fault of the advertising people, although the delay in producing the advert (for whatever reason) is. Either way, there is a procedure here which needs to be followed. Follow it and it'll get sorted out. Bottom line, we're not gonna give money out unless it's verified, which we need your cooperation to do. We don't wanna get scammed either you know.
Buccaneer Bill Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.03.16 23:01:00 - [17] This is an example of typical customer service today. You Mr customer will be ignored and when we do eventualy hear then you need to jump through our hoops because we say so and by the way don't dare complain about it. How about taking the unique approach of putting "Service" back into Customer Service.- Sorry we are wrong what can we do to make life easy for you and sort this out. ..... Bu I guess that would be just unreasonable. "Have you hugged a Pirate today"
Kane Rizzel NovaKane Incorporated Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2008.03.16 23:04:00 - [18] SO this guy sends you isk for an ad that never went into production, he then asks on the official forum for his money back, has convos ingame and asks for his money back, then gets told to send an email. I think you guys need to sort this out. This isn't a scam, just poor business and should serve as proof of poor business practices ingame. Shame on you Eve Radio A Pirates Perspective
Szent AdamKiraly Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.03.16 23:19:00 - [19] Edited by: Szent AdamKiraly on 16/03/2008 23:21:16 Originally by: MrBlades Just for clairty, he asked for an update on 19th december. Response on 22nd December explained the delay and it was suggested that if he wanted to get a refund he could do so by email the address provided. The fact that after 4 months he hadn't done it is not the fault of the advertising people, although the delay in producing the advert (for whatever reason) is. Either way, there is a procedure here which needs to be followed. Follow it and it'll get sorted out. Bottom line, we're not gonna give money out unless it's verified, which we need your cooperation to do. We don't wanna get scammed either you know. You need proof? Don't wanna get scammed? Have the advert manager check his wallet transactions ( I sent it to Cody28). He will see that he received the payment from this character (Szent Adamkiraly).
Szent AdamKiraly Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.03.16 23:31:00 - [20] Here is a screenshot showing my wallet transaction to Cody28 who was at that time the EVE radio advert manager. Transaction screenshot
Haks'he Lirky Dominion Imperium	Posted - 2008.03.16 23:44:00 - [21] Originally by: Szent AdamKiraly Here is a screenshot showing my wallet transaction to Cody28 who was at that time the EVE radio advert manager. Transaction screenshot Sir, as a veteran of support I must say that you seem to have a valid case, however you are stubbornly trying to circumvent their support procedures, you might not agree with those procedures that is fine. But you cannot bang your head against a wall endlessly and then yell at the wall for being solid and causing your face to become malformed.
Szent AdamKiraly Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.03.16 23:48:00 - [22] Originally by: Haks'he Lirky Originally by: Szent AdamKiraly Here is a screenshot showing my wallet transaction to Cody28 who was at that time the EVE radio advert manager. Transaction screenshot Sir, as a veteran of support I must say that you seem to have a valid case, however you are stubbornly trying to circumvent their support procedures, you might not agree with those procedures that is fine. But you cannot bang your head against a wall endlessly and then yell at the wall for being solid and causing your face to become malformed. I am done jumping through hoops.. Why should I? In good faith I paid them prior to seeing any product. They promised a product and didn't deliver. Now I am denied a refund because I don't want to deal with their bureaucracy?
WhiteSavage Dark Force Recon Blood and Steel	Posted - 2008.03.16 23:55:00 - [23] lol working in retail we get people like this every day. :P The procedures arent put in place to screw anybody. Its a bussiness after all... and for heavens sake procedure isnt exactly a burden. E-mail the guys, dont IMPLY you WOULD get the runaround. Customers feel they are always right, because thats what they are told. But that is incredibly incorrect. I get payed to say no to customers every day. ___________________________________________ ..My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore excused from saving Universes
Haks'he Lirky Dominion Imperium	Posted - 2008.03.16 23:56:00 - [24] Originally by: Szent AdamKiraly I am done jumping through hoops.. Why should I? In good faith I paid them prior to seeing any product. They promised a product and didn't deliver. Now I am denied a refund because I don't want to deal with their bureaucracy? If you choose to stop dealing with them then it's pretty obvious that you will get nowhere. If "jumping through hoops" is to send the person that posted in this thread with an email telling him in short terms what is needed on your side to resolve the situation and your are unwilling to perform that simple task... Well I do not know what to say, I guess some people just want to create negative attention. And btw you are creating negative attention for your "business" endeavor as well, and since some would think that you were paying them the original money sum to do the opposite... bleh, I have the feeling that this is lost on you anyhow. gl.
Praxis1452 The Hoodie Mafia Cosa Nostra.	Posted - 2008.03.16 23:56:00 - [25] Originally by: Szent AdamKiraly Originally by: Haks'he Lirky Originally by: Szent AdamKiraly Here is a screenshot showing my wallet transaction to Cody28 who was at that time the EVE radio advert manager. Transaction screenshot Sir, as a veteran of support I must say that you seem to have a valid case, however you are stubbornly trying to circumvent their support procedures, you might not agree with those procedures that is fine. But you cannot bang your head against a wall endlessly and then yell at the wall for being solid and causing your face to become malformed. I am done jumping through hoops.. Why should I? In good faith I paid them prior to seeing any product. They promised a product and didn't deliver. Now I am denied a refund because I don't want to deal with their bureaucracy? quite. -------------------------------------------- ôHe who must expend his life to prolong life cannot enjoy it, and he who is still seeking for his life does not have it and can as little enjoy it"
donkeys dyke Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.03.17 00:01:00 - [26] well, From what i can see szent has done everything eve radio has told him to do until thay told him to e-mail... Now why should szent e-mail em???? he has done everything they have asked so far. cody has the transfer of isk log in his wallet so why is this got to this ???? EvE radio needs to repay szent or like he says cody has scammed him
Diaego State War Academy	Posted - 2008.03.17 00:06:00 - [27] Edited by: Diaego on 17/03/2008 00:07:13 Hi there, I'm the owner of EVE-Radio. I'm afraid this situation seems to have got a little out of hand. I can assure you that it was not our intention to scam you. We have no need to do that. I am unable to answer right now why your advert did not go ahead, but our advert team is going through a restructuring process and this may have contributed to the problems you have been experiencing. Clearly there may have been an oversight on our part but we now need your help to resolve this. You were asked to go on IRC so we could sort out the problem and arrange a refund. The fact you were unable to get on IRC isn't our fault. We asked you to e-mail us as an alternative (not to make you jump through hoops). EVE-Radio has been producing adverts for the EVE Online community for almost 5 years. I am not aware, over those 5 years, of anyone claiming they were 'scammed' by us. Mistakes do happen but we are trying to put this right. If you haven't already done so, then please get in contact by e-mail so we can verify the transaction and get this money back to you.
Szent AdamKiraly Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.03.17 00:09:00 - [28] I sent an email to Djtempest. There you go, you win! now pls can I have my isk back?
Kehmor PAK Red Republic	Posted - 2008.03.17 00:12:00 - [29] considering the number of posts you've made you might aswell have just emailed them by now. Stop being a whiney *****. Violence isn't the answer, it is the question. The answer is yes.
Szent AdamKiraly Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.03.17 00:20:00 - [30] Drama Queen? The dude just wants his rug back.

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