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Posted - 2004.04.11 21:51:00 -
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Two questions for TornSoul:
1) How can it be described as "repairs" if a democratic alliance is torn apart with military might and other strong-arm tactics. How can the new members and future members be sure that they will not be "repaired" themselves ? (oh and best wishes to Jazz who I initially got into contact with TornSoul weeks ago).
2) I have stuff up there I want to get out. How KOS am I?
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Posted - 2004.04.11 22:35:00 -
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Edited by: Riddari on 11/04/2004 22:36:43
A passport to get my old stuff.  Hope it's a freebie.
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Posted - 2004.04.12 20:55:00 -
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Excellent, we have yet another rev0luti0n troll posting rubish in the hopes more ppl will join them in their hopeless cause to fight the Fountain alliance.
In the words of a great pirate: End yourself!
I have the excuse of having been closely involved with the matters of Fountain for nearly a year now, thats why I butt in.
What excuse does the aptly named Walking Contradiction have?
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Posted - 2004.04.12 22:04:00 -
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uhh, did you fail to read the announcement? or were you referring to Techell's desire to have or not have a FA coup?
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As everyone is probably already aware, FA has undergone some repairs, so I'll make this brief.
The result of this repair phase is some corps leaving the FA.
Thankfully most on good terms.
Not a single word about coup d'etat
@Omniwar: the thing is not about the coup d'etat taking place, the thing is NFA members trying to mask it by claiming to be a democratic entity which recent events show it was not.
As I stated before elsewhere on this topic, I wouldn't need to butt in on this matter but do because they are trying to make it sound as if the NFA is a democratic entity which it clearly isn't.
If they would say "ok we decided to kick out those we didn't like for whatever reason we thought of, others are welcome to join instead but be careful, your arse could be next" then it would be "ok, that's how it is, no prob".
But they didn't 
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Posted - 2004.04.12 22:17:00 -
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Not a single word about coup d'etat
Wrong. I quoted the official announcement that started this.
Here is a link:
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Wrong thread, also not an official announcement from the FA to the outside world.
We are inside the thread which has the official announcement from the FA. No coup d'etat. Only talk about "dead weight" and troublemakers.
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Posted - 2004.04.12 22:22:00 -
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Wrong again. That was a statement from Grim.
TornSoul may or may not have chosen to use the phrase coup d'eta (sic), but it was used in the official announcement.
Name of thread: "FA public announcement" 
Come on Baun, make an effort. Honestly. I respected the ideaology behind EVE Marshals, try to stick to it.
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Posted - 2004.04.12 22:31:00 -
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Now, before your foot is lodged irretrievably far into your mouth (if it is not already), just admit you were mistaken.
What? So the EVE Marshals apparently stood for what in your mind? That it was not a coup but repairs?
That part of your post seems almost entirely incoherent.
Honor. That's what I thought at first. These actions and defending them goes against that. My bad.
As for my mouth and my foot, my feet are always on the ground but thank you for your concern.
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Posted - 2004.04.12 22:47:00 -
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Baun.
You called me being pedantic, I'm not. Grims statement was an internal FA memo, not an official statement from the FA. This is the official statement.
I really am getting tired of hammering this into your head but you continue to call me pedantic while going off on a really good pedspree yourself.
This is the FA announcement. This was a coup d'etat. There is no way any future or present corporations can be assured of another not happening again. The Coupettes are trying to mask that fact with their smacktalk about those that left or were forced out. I want the truth to be known. Very very very very simple.
Really really drop this matter, I know where my feet are and I'm not about to go into a "handbags at 10 paces" with you.
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Posted - 2004.04.12 23:05:00 -
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I hate to get involved in this, especially with an outsider such as Riddari who obviously has no insight into the situation at hand or nor into the events which preceeded this so called "outrage".
Yet with this going on into thread number 5 now and Riddari still yapping behind the FA's heels
I thought you were better at this than that Temujin.
I have been watching the situation unfold for a while, the HHI CEO was very good at relaying to the members logs from the meetings, major topics going on in the forums etc.
Furthermore I remarkably for a heel-snapper still have people inside and outside Fountain that relay information to me. Also funnily enough history does matter.
But the great Xanadu PR machine has deemed me a heel-snapper so I'm obviously clueless. I hate to bring RL into this but is your first name Condolezza? 
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Posted - 2004.04.12 23:07:00 -
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It is only trolling fools like Ridarri that drag this out.
Co-ordinated effort from FA now on attacking me personally
So I guess I go from "future pass" to "KOS" now?
Honestly guys.
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Posted - 2004.04.12 23:14:00 -
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Way to dodge a list of specific questions. Continue being willfully ignorant if you so choose. I would, however, suggest that if you are going to ignore FA statements and instead read whatever you want, you be more imaginative.
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Do you deny that in the first statement that was released that the action was referred to as a coup?
That was an internal statement. No I don't deny it.
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Do you deny that this statement was released and posted on the boards and on other news sites?
It was released by people outside the new FA. Hence not an official statement.
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Do you deny that reposting the entirety of the first statement would have served no purpose?
You have to ask Grim about that.
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Do you deny that out of the context of the first statement that anyone who was not involved would have little idea as to what actually happened?
What? So by stating in one post that (for example) "I am a little corpthief" and then in another "Hard working player looking for corp" I would be making all the facts known for those reading the second psot?
Dodge that Pedantic Boy.
It's time for bed for me, lets see how far this goes until tomorrow. I'm betting 11 pages and a lock
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Posted - 2004.04.12 23:16:00 -
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And thats how you saved me the problem of thinking up my own reply 
As I said.. your obviously about as informed on the situation as the HHI memberbase, revol memberbase, Hvi memberbase, etc..
Read the rest of my post
The first part stated how I knew of the tension on-going in the Alliance meetings, the screaming and shouting, the weird agendas, the recounts, the abstains, the hostilty and what ever there went on.
I think this thread contains a nice topic about how effective the meetings were for the last few weeks.
As for know about the coup beforehand, no I didn't. But the rest is easy to get intell on now.
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Posted - 2004.04.12 23:17:00 -
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If a corporation doesn't contribute enough, then it shouldnt be in an alliance. I wish more alliances would do that, would create more allies and more potent targets.
A whole corporation fighting for 53 days or so non-stop is contribution.
But your choice is to believe those who scream loudest or those that put forward the facts and the figures. I guess you have your ears ringing with the screams. 
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Posted - 2004.04.13 09:17:00 -
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Ah good morning. 11 pages and still we are open for business!
Nothing amazing happened since last night obviously except for the surprising addition of Hardin of PIE inc jumping on the Xanadu bandwagon? That came out of nowhere!
Are PIE looking for a 0.0 home all of a sudden?
Happy battles gentlemen and ladies. For which ever banner you fly.
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Posted - 2004.04.15 10:33:00 -
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Many HHI corp members specially, sure they did loose several ships, in fact butt loads of ships but most of them were cought in belts mining in some back end systems.
Errr. no Omni, you know that's just b*****.
As for the voted out, Xanadu & BIG tried voting HHI out and that didn't work because they didn't have enough support for it. So they followed the path of those too weak to handle the real challenges of democracy.
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Posted - 2004.04.15 10:58:00 -
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There you go with that lovely miss use of the word Democracy. Since when has democracy been about "vote my way or you will not be allowed to vote again, oh and you will be expelled and perhaps even murdered".
Dude, you totally misread it.
It's Xanadu & BIG that couldn't handle the democracy.
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