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Mush Morton
Setenta Corp
Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.03.18 19:24:00 -
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Without launching into a massive diatribe about the banality and mindlessly adolescent nature of consoles, I would like to scorn you harshly with foul language for even suggesting that a quality pc game like EVE, with all of its depth and detail, would ever be defiled by running on a console.
Buy a better pc and never touch your ps3 again.
Good day to you sir...good day.
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DrefsabZN
SteelWolves
Final Unity
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Posted - 2008.03.18 19:27:00 -
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The thing is I get why people want to fiddle, I own an xbox, 360, wii and ps3, and I play almost 0 games on them. I got them to mod to mess about with. Xbox Media Center for one is the most useful thing I've ever done with a console. I own all those machines but at the end of the day when I want to play my games I always come home to my PC :)
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
No Quarter.
Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2008.03.18 19:51:00 -
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Even if you can get it to run, I cannot imagine it ever running well.
PS3 has 8 cell procs, one is disabled, one is dedicated to the OS. Leaving you with 6 to play with. Lets assume that you install the proper linux, and it uses a single cell for all its needs.
Then, you need to emulate x86 arch for EVE, while emulating win32 APIs, while emulating D3D APIs. Lets pretend that this can all be done on another cell proc (impossible, but stay with me)
So you have 4 cells left. problem is, EVE can only ever Use a single one. EVE is single threaded. Even assuming you can full access to the graphics abilities, you are stuck on a single, specialized core that was intended to work in tandem with many of its brethren.
Could it work? of course, you can emulate whatever you want these days as long as you can get the emulator recompiled to the platform in question.
Would it work well? Never.
 Originally by: Meridius Dex
I could actually fit a Thorax WITH LASERS and get better DPS, better speed, better tank and - wait for it - better cap stability
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Kyden
Path of Light
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.18 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Mush Morton
Without launching into a massive diatribe about the banality and mindlessly adolescent nature of consoles, I would like to scorn you harshly with foul language for even suggesting that a quality pc game like EVE, with all of its depth and detail, would ever be defiled by running on a console.
Buy a better pc and never touch your ps3 again.
Good day to you sir...good day.
QFT^ any regular pc with a decent graphics card will run any game better than any console. Thats not even talking about a good gaming pc which will out perform most consoles that may be created in the next 5-10 years.
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Yuleth Gix
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.18 19:58:00 -
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I'm pretty sure the whole reason this thread was created was in the spirit of adventure.
Calling down people who want to try the unconventional because it doesn't suit your world-view isn't really a very productive way to engage in conversation.
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Zeba
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.18 20:01:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 18/03/2008 20:02:23
Originally by: Gamer4liff
Why don't you just sell the Ps3 and buy better computer parts? It's not like the PS3 has any games.
Sports games pretty much define a console nowadays with the Madden series alone making enough money to buy out several small countries with each years 'new' version. All the other games are there to give the impression that there is 'variety' in a consoles game library and to satisfy the large niche playerbase. 
Saying that I'd probably not run Eve on a ps3 simply because my pc is already several orders of magnitude moar powerful.
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Bish Ounen
Omni-Core Freedom Fighters
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.03.18 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Sports games pretty much define a console nowadays with the Madden series alone making enough money to buy out several small countries with each years 'new' version. All the other games are there to give the impression that there is 'variety' in a consoles game library and to satisfy the large niche playerbase.
Which is a fancy way of saying that consoles are marketed to the lowest common denominator, the sports fan. 
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Ikasu
Scrutari
The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2008.03.18 20:11:00 -
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On a side note, I hate sports games. Only ever liked one to be honest.
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Kanadesh
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.18 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Emperor D'Hoffryn
Even if you can get it to run, I cannot imagine it ever running well.
PS3 has 8 cell procs, one is disabled, one is dedicated to the OS. Leaving you with 6 to play with. Lets assume that you install the proper linux, and it uses a single cell for all its needs.
Then, you need to emulate x86 arch for EVE, while emulating win32 APIs, while emulating D3D APIs. Lets pretend that this can all be done on another cell proc (impossible, but stay with me)
So you have 4 cells left. problem is, EVE can only ever Use a single one. EVE is single threaded. Even assuming you can full access to the graphics abilities, you are stuck on a single, specialized core that was intended to work in tandem with many of its brethren.
Could it work? of course, you can emulate whatever you want these days as long as you can get the emulator recompiled to the platform in question.
Would it work well? Never.
Cells are not general purpose processors. They're very limited stream processors. You can't "run linux on 1 cell".
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Ikasu
Scrutari
The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2008.03.18 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Yuleth Gix
I'm pretty sure the whole reason this thread was created was in the spirit of adventure.
Calling down people who want to try the unconventional because it doesn't suit your world-view isn't really a very productive way to engage in conversation.
Quoted for trust. I just want to see if I can do it and, hell, my PC is angry anyway. I have a corrupt hard drive so every now and then it just drops applications.
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Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2008.03.18 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: Yuleth Gix
I'm pretty sure the whole reason this thread was created was in the spirit of adventure.
Calling down people who want to try the unconventional because it doesn't suit your world-view isn't really a very productive way to engage in conversation.
exactley
Originally by: Death Kill
Go travel or live in the rainforest if neccesary, just dont turn to religion as its a cul de sac.
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banannagirl
The U-B-H-C
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Posted - 2008.03.19 00:11:00 -
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how does he control the ships on the ps3 console .. if it works on the ps3 why cant we rig up a ps3 joy pad or joystick to fly our own little chunks of pixels...!
regards
BG
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Zeba
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.19 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ikasu
Originally by: Yuleth Gix
I'm pretty sure the whole reason this thread was created was in the spirit of adventure.
Calling down people who want to try the unconventional because it doesn't suit your world-view isn't really a very productive way to engage in conversation.
Quoted for trust. I just want to see if I can do it and, hell, my PC is angry anyway. I have a corrupt hard drive so every now and then it just drops applications.
I don't think anyone has an issue with you experimenting.
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Cori4n
principle of motion
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.03.19 00:45:00 -
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Edited by: Cori4n on 19/03/2008 00:45:54
Well the first step would be unlocking the RSX. This is possible in theory, albeit highly difficult since Sony doesn't want you to...
Then you would have to convince CCP to compile Eve for different arches. This isn't as hard for CCP as it would seem-- wine works just fine on non-x86-- and it would make Eve work on my PowerPC Mac. But I dream...
Then you could play EVE while realizing that you aren't even using the Cell processor.
... Or you could use StreamMyGame. But that's cheating...
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Mattikus
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.19 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: banannagirl
how does he control the ships on the ps3 console .. if it works on the ps3 why cant we rig up a ps3 joy pad or joystick to fly our own little chunks of pixels...!
regards
BG
The PS3 does have usb ports so just plug up and mouse and keyboard.
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Ikasu
Scrutari
The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2008.03.19 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: Cori4n
Edited by: Cori4n on 19/03/2008 00:45:54
Well the first step would be unlocking the RSX. This is possible in theory, albeit highly difficult since Sony doesn't want you to...
Then you would have to convince CCP to compile Eve for different arches. This isn't as hard for CCP as it would seem-- wine works just fine on non-x86-- and it would make Eve work on my PowerPC Mac. But I dream...
Then you could play EVE while realizing that you aren't even using the Cell processor.
... Or you could use StreamMyGame. But that's cheating...
Hrmm, i'll have to look into this...and stuff. My goal here is to be able to play Eve just as well, if not better than on my PC. A difficult task indeed.
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Andtha Splits
Republic University
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Posted - 2008.03.19 06:35:00 -
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Lardarz B'stard
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Posted - 2008.03.19 07:35:00 -
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If they can fiddle with gravity with a PS3 I'm sure they can cope with the relatively simple task of running a game.
 Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Originally by: Kindakrof
there is no gravity in space
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Angela Toren
Toren Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.03.19 09:05:00 -
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A truely great feature would be if connecting to EVE via a PS3 would allow you to interact with EVE differently. I.e. connecting with a PS3 allows you free-flight controls in a ceptor or something. Connecting with a PDA allowed you to change skills, trade, manage your corp etc.
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Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2008.03.19 09:44:00 -
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Edited by: Celeste Coeval on 19/03/2008 09:45:23
Originally by: Angela Toren
A truely great feature would be if connecting to EVE via a PS3 would allow you to interact with EVE differently. I.e. connecting with a PS3 allows you free-flight controls in a ceptor or something. Connecting with a PDA allowed you to change skills, trade, manage your corp etc.
My friend is scratching his brains to achieve such a thing with the PSP i bet, he loves the mobile device - pc - ps3 connectivety stuff. TBH im happy with the PC, but it's very interesting seeing his results.
Originally by: Death Kill
Go travel or live in the rainforest if neccesary, just dont turn to religion as its a cul de sac.
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Ovno ConSyquence
Free Mercenaries Union
Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.19 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Cori4n
... Or you could use StreamMyGame. But that's cheating...
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Ikasu
Scrutari
The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2008.03.19 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lardarz B'stard
If they can fiddle with gravity with a PS3 I'm sure they can cope with the relatively simple task of running a game.
Dude, that's awesome, i'm definitely saving this link. I use my PS3 to try to solve cancer sometimes, but then ago, that's only because I have nothing better to do.
(Seriously, it does medical research if you put the program on there)
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Bish Ounen
Omni-Core Freedom Fighters
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.03.19 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ikasu
Originally by: Lardarz B'stard
If they can fiddle with gravity with a PS3 I'm sure they can cope with the relatively simple task of running a game.
Dude, that's awesome, i'm definitely saving this link. I use my PS3 to try to solve cancer sometimes, but then ago, that's only because I have nothing better to do.
(Seriously, it does medical research if you put the program on there)
Makes me wonder is CCP couldn't save a crapload of time and money by just re-optimizing it's code for the cell processor. I wonder how well the EvE server app would run on say, 10 or 15 PS3's?
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Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2008.03.19 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Ikasu
Originally by: Lardarz B'stard
If they can fiddle with gravity with a PS3 I'm sure they can cope with the relatively simple task of running a game.
Dude, that's awesome, i'm definitely saving this link. I use my PS3 to try to solve cancer sometimes, but then ago, that's only because I have nothing better to do.
(Seriously, it does medical research if you put the program on there)
Yea i've never been a fan of sony platforms, but I have to admit the PS3 is much more than a console. It's not trying to be a PC either, which is why the 360 isn't to my taste. The Wii doesn't count:P Nintendo have always been, well Nintendo
Originally by: Death Kill
Go travel or live in the rainforest if neccesary, just dont turn to religion as its a cul de sac.
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