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Malice Devilbunny
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Posted - 2004.04.12 07:43:00 -
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Can anyone post a summary of the Alliances, the member corps, and website link if possible? Having a great time reading the message board wars, but would like a better grip and who is who and whats what.
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2004.04.12 08:23:00 -
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Check out this thread for info on which alliance holds which territory.
Check out this link for some info on Alliances. Might be an idea to read through the other posts on that site aswell.
/Elve
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Malice Devilbunny
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Posted - 2004.04.12 15:06:00 -
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Yeah, I had seen the territorial map already, and found it helpful. Your link does explain the alliances a lot, but still it doesn't mention who is in which (and how could it since they seem to shuffle). So I was hoping each alliance could post here with their members and a link to their alliance website if they have one. With so many ex EnBers and the fileplanet holdovers we need to know who is fighting who as we grow stronger and more likely to apply. Now with no comment on the politics, the info gleaned from the FA announcement allowed me to know who is in it, was in it, ect.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.04.12 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: Blacklight on 12/04/2004 16:22:29
NORAD's details should be available on our forum at http://eve-norad.org/forum
Not sure if our member list is up to date or not, I'll check it today.
Edit: dodgy spelling 
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Malice Devilbunny
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Posted - 2004.04.12 19:03:00 -
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Thank you Blacklight. Sometimes the results from search engine spam makes it hard to find the actual sight. For Norad you can get anything from movies to conspiracy buffs, so a direct link is most appreciated.
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Malice Devilbunny
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Posted - 2004.04.13 21:11:00 -
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Anyone from Curse, Phoenix or Stain want to add info? Please help a newb out.
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Xavier Perez
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Posted - 2004.04.13 21:22:00 -
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Edited by: Xavier Perez on 13/04/2004 21:23:48
Phoenix alliance is umm...english speaking. Based out of venal, tenal, and branch, is on good terms with its neighbors, and is primarily good-aligned or some crap like that. Population's around 150 players at peak times, and drops to 50 or less at night. Average minerals, really nasty npc pirates, not such a great location, but good access to other regions.
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Malice Devilbunny
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Posted - 2004.04.13 21:59:00 -
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Any listing of PA corps? Reason I ask, is that in Daoc, you could look up a alliance and it's member guilds (a idea perhaps CCP?). If I see someone in a corp, I often am not sure if it's a alliance one or not, not having had the time to soak up the info of the veterans, and the fact that many people do not indicate alliance affiliated.
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.04.13 22:48:00 -
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Any listing of PA corps? Reason I ask, is that in Daoc, you could look up a alliance and it's member guilds (a idea perhaps CCP?). If I see someone in a corp, I often am not sure if it's a alliance one or not, not having had the time to soak up the info of the veterans, and the fact that many people do not indicate alliance affiliated.
[20TH] 20th Legion
[21ST] 21st Legion
[BLADE] Bladerunners
[BTLS] Battlestars
[C.C.] Cult of Cthulhu
[CDI] Cyberdyne Industries
[CE] Cataclysm Enterprises
[CPDS] Copiae Dius
[FGH] Fighter of Heinken
[FW I] FW Inc
[GODS] Generals of Destruction Syndicate
[INF] InfiniCorp
[NSN] North Star Networks
[OCC] Occassus Republica
[OI] Oberon Incorporated
[PAIN] The Pain Syndicate
[QI] Quantum Industries
[ROHAN] Riders of Rohan
[RONA] RONA Corporation
[R-K] RONA-KIA
[TWC] The Whitesands Consortium
[TWB] The Wolf Brigade
there we go
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.04.14 00:29:00 -
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CA doesnt advertise its corps. Your best bet is to avoid us.
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2004.04.14 00:55:00 -
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Malice pay no attention to the territorial claims any of these Alliance attempt to hold. They lay claim to territories that they cannot control.
Find yourself a good corp that thinks for itself. Dont allow yourself to become controled by another players or corps. And dont allow yourself to become a mineing drone. Good Luck to you.
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Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2004.04.14 01:18:00 -
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Malice pay no attention to the territorial claims any of these Alliance attempt to hold. They lay claim to territories that they cannot control.
Find yourself a good corp that thinks for itself. Dont allow yourself to become controled by another players or corps. And dont allow yourself to become a mineing drone. Good Luck to you.
You read too much propoganda. I doubt any alliance in eve asks their member corps do anything other than mutual defence.
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2004.04.14 02:13:00 -
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Malice pay no attention to the territorial claims any of these Alliance attempt to hold. They lay claim to territories that they cannot control.
Find yourself a good corp that thinks for itself. Dont allow yourself to become controled by another players or corps. And dont allow yourself to become a mineing drone. Good Luck to you.
You read too much propoganda. I doubt any alliance in eve asks their member corps do anything other than mutual defence.
Aye so the cruise missles that are shot at me as I pass through the Alliances so called territory is just a figment of my imagination? I see that defending the frontier space from an invadeing frigate doing agent/courier missions is a noble call to arms!!
They say it is for Mutual Defense but the case is usually ganking everyone without regard for the reason they are entering the region. What you say is mearly an excuse to cover up your non-restrictive pirateing in an attempt to greedliy horde the mineral wealth of the frontier.
Allainces have no assets to protect on the frontier so why defend empty space? You say for Mutual defense? Then I can only equate that to provideing security for mineing operations.
Any alliance that tries to restrict access to any system to everyone but thier members is wrong. The gates are there for everyones travel. It would be prodent to look at the true nature of these alliances. If you say they are only the law of the land. Then why do they shoot themselves in the foot by continueingly keeping the frontier economicly isolated?
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Xelios
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Posted - 2004.04.14 02:32:00 -
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Ly'Sol, you let everyone in a 'harmless' frigate into your space and pretty soon you'll have your industrials, frigates and cruisers being shot down all over the place. You'll have recon information passed to enemy fleets before even you know what it is your doing. You'll have the ore you fight hard to protect from said enemy fleets being mined by every noob and his mother.
0.0 space is there to be controlled, it's the land of PvP and player empires and it will always be this way. This of course leads to conflicts, which is what makes 0.0 so much fun, but it's also what makes it so dangerous and when your enemies can make an alt capable of killing industrial ships single handedly in less than a day you have no choice but to restrict access to the space you control.
Besides, if you had your own system with belts full of ark would you let anyone come in and mine it all away?
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.04.14 02:37:00 -
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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 14/04/2004 02:38:22
Curse
http://www.clan-ngru.com/ca/
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2004.04.14 04:02:00 -
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Of course i would, there is more than one way to skin a cat for ISK
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.04.14 06:04:00 -
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I love how all these Jerako faction guys dis alliances. IS it sour grapes? Its not like you volintarily left the NVA. You were tossed out on your asses.
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Duke Droklar
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Posted - 2004.04.14 07:05:00 -
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This is about conquest and not a virtual representation of some flower childs idea of utopia. He who has the might makes the rules.
Don't like it? Get might and change it. Oh wait, then it will be the same thing. Only difference is it will be YOUR version of whats right. Of course once you fight long and hard to institute your version of whats right, that vision will most likely have changed. Funny thing human nature.
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Dallenn
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Posted - 2004.04.14 07:37:00 -
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Isolated areas are economicly lucrative, so is there room for smuggling after all?
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2004.04.14 07:56:00 -
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I love how all these Jerako faction guys dis alliances. IS it sour grapes? Its not like you volintarily left the NVA. You were tossed out on your asses.
The NVA deal was before my time, so Ill refrain from going into the details. However I always thought that NVA was laughable at best due to its disorganization and kicking active members as such. But I dont know the specifics....
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This is about conquest and not a virtual representation of some flower childs idea of utopia. He who has the might makes the rules.
It truely is amazeing when one person said that Alliances are for Mutual Defense, to it now being about conquest. Now isnt this just a pickle of a contradiction!! This does so much in the defense against the arguement I had that any alliance who claims they are for the mutual protection is just a blantant lie in a feeble attempt to hide power lust and greed. Who would want to be associated with liers?
And I diffinately dont see it as a "flower childs" view of Utopia. Im talking about pulling select individuals out of the clouds from thier power hungry greed and wake up to how much more they could gain if they submitted to trade and adopt economic system simalar to that of life lines of Empire space.
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Don't like it? Get might and change it. Oh wait, then it will be the same thing. Only difference is it will be YOUR version of whats right. Of course once you fight long and hard to institute your version of whats right, that vision will most likely have changed. Funny thing human nature.
What I fail to understand is every single Alliance I have observed in the past followed a path. The begining, growth, rapid growth, stagnation, quick decline. And every single one of them followed the exact same path. Territorial conquest and control. Is it me or is there a repeating pattern here? Throw away your foolish empirical aspirations and open your minds to the potential market base that exsists in the frontier.
It is a general misconception that can be seen that Jericho Fraction hates any form of Alliances. We are not against the Alliances who understand that its ultimately a waste of time and money to defend vast sections empty space and know that haveing such territorial pipe dreams is not what makes Alliances live in the long run.
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TGIF
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Posted - 2004.04.14 09:00:00 -
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Isolated areas are economicly lucrative, so is there room for smuggling after all?
Depending on what you deliver, yes.
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Kane Jacobs
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Posted - 2004.04.14 09:08:00 -
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Group-hug?
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.04.14 09:11:00 -
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There are also alliances and coalitions outside regional 0.0 space.
The CVA is a grouping of four Amarr only Empire based corporations committed to defending the Amarr Empire from external threats be they pirate or terrorist. This group assists each other militarily and economically with favourable trade deals etc.
The Minmatar have similar organisation known as the Friends of Matar...
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Duke Droklar
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Posted - 2004.04.14 11:41:00 -
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Edited by: Duke Droklar on 14/04/2004 11:46:53
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It truely is amazeing when one person said that Alliances are for Mutual Defense, to it now being about conquest. Now isnt this just a pickle of a contradiction!!
Umm, no. It would be a contradiction if I had made both statements but since I didn't it would be called "differences of opinion".
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And I diffinately dont see it as a "flower childs" view of Utopia. Im talking about pulling select individuals out of the clouds from thier power hungry greed and wake up to how much more they could gain if they submitted to trade and adopt economic system simalar to that of life lines of Empire space.
ROFLMAO  This doesnt work well with corps in the same alliance. usually what happens is you ahve a core group of corps that bear the majority of the military burden while the "industrial / mining" corps do little to contribute. So dream on about non affiliated corps giving squat to the alliance that allows them inside. They'll be nothing more then mooches.
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Throw away your foolish empirical aspirations and open your minds to the potential market base that exsists in the frontier.
Oh please do enlighten us on exactly how allowing a bunch of corps into your space is going to add economic prosperity? Selling them goods? Nope, commons are easier to acquire in empire and so are the goods you need.
C4 does however allow "client corps" to live within its borders for a % of their ore. But that isnt an open door policy until ccp allows for higher refine percentages then the measely 2.5% it's limited to now.
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Rual Storge
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Posted - 2004.04.14 12:56:00 -
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This doesnt work well with corps in the same alliance. usually what happens is you ahve a core group of corps that bear the majority of the military burden while the "industrial / mining" corps do little to contribute. So dream on about non affiliated corps giving squat to the alliance that allows them inside. They'll be nothing more then mooches.
Well actualy from what I've been seeing through corp mergers and divides in alliances EVE Galaxy wide. A large number of corps in an alliance eigther include both a Industrial and a combat front. BTLS (formerly Infinicorp) has under both it's current and former name is one of the "big dogs" in the PA military. Which we patrol regularly and still are one of the most productive of industrial corps galaxy wide.
Other corps devide as you saw with TTI before they became so quiet. they have one corp devision work souly on industry and another on their military. Preatty much one group helps deffend territory as well as hunt NPCs and protect their mining ops helping them make money worth enough to make it worth the effort to supply ships and guns.
Though I don't doubt there will always be moochers I've just seen less and less recently as alliances become aware of their pilots actual contributions.
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Malice Devilbunny
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Posted - 2004.04.14 16:28:00 -
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Wow, a sudden upswing in posting to my topic, sweet!
To get it back on topic, the reason I want to get this info, is that newbs like myself can look at it, and decide on what corps and alliances seem appealing. Then, if they know who the allies and enemies of their prospective employer are, they can start to follow forum posts regarding, and know who is who.
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Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2004.04.14 16:32:00 -
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Lysol, you seem to have much knowlege over the internal workings, dynamics, and objectives of regional alliances. Does this knowlege come from vast experience helping run these types of alliances, or directing their paths? I am just curious.
There are people that understand the nature of deep space, and those that do not. Most have to learn the hard way.
BTW, contrary to popular belief, I respect Jades views and opinions concerning EVE's "big picture". To see you almost word for word plagurizing her is a dis-service to the community. At least develop your own writing style, m'dear. You wont be so transparent.
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Tsual
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Posted - 2004.04.14 17:16:00 -
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There are also alliances and coalitions outside regional 0.0 space.
The Minmatar have similar organisation known as the Friends of Matar...
Wasn't there once something named "Minmatar Alliance" or so? Remember that I saw some month ago a corp with the connotation in their description.
The alliances Hardin speaks of, rather work for a political towards apolitical or idiological aim/purpose then for accumulating of wealth.
Dallenn smuggling is dangerouse, you'll might need to wait to find a hole in one of the blokades, and to be honest there are too few stations in the 0.0 zone, at least they could have added one free not to conquer npc station per region.
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