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Cydrone
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Posted - 2004.04.12 09:45:00 -
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They take our homeworld, flood the Bulletin Boards in our space with their damnable softdrink, and now they drive away the Khanid Kingdom, valued customers and friends, by buying so much Microcontrollers to use for their own perverted needs!
There will be retribution!!
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It doesn't laugh or cry
All it does from dusk till dawn
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Bigfoot Hunter
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Posted - 2004.04.12 09:57:00 -
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The khanid drove themseleves away and if you truely followed the common caldari ideaology of profit first you would not be angered by this  . The reason the khanid are no longer buying is that the gallente are willing to pay far better for the chips thus the producer sends stockpiles there for sale and raises prices in khanid space they couldnt keep up so no more for them.
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T Dave
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Posted - 2004.04.12 10:00:00 -
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Friend,
The Federation's actions in the past against the Caldari have been most awful, on that I agree with you wholeheartedly and, to some extent, believe reparations on the Federations behalf to the Caldari is a necessity.
Indeed the omni-presence of Quafe, a drink I have tasted only once and despised instantly, is enough to turn my stomach.
But the Microcontrollers...well, you're statements simply appear to show an unbelievable method of thinking on your behalf. You would rather have the chips sold, at a lower cost, for such a despicable purpose that the Khanid Kingdom hve in mind, and indeed have implemented - the taking away of what limited freedoms their slaves have left - as opposed to being sold to the very people you seem to class as an enemy?
We all know the effects these Microcontrollers have upon the implantee, surely weakening your apparent 'enemy' is of benefit?
Whilst I can never understand what drives the vanity of many inhabitants of the Federation (which in turn fuels this microcontroller obsession of late), they are at least free people. They know, or at the very least have open access to, the varying accounts and reports of these microcontrollers and the effect they are to have upon them. They have the choice as to whether they want to succumb to such cheap thrills. And, in all honesty, if they want to be so self-obsessed with how they look or how they think of themselves, then so be it. I have no wish to be like them. I am sure the majority of the Universe also has the intelligence and common sense to feel the same.
I can only see this path leading to a downfall of the Federation and its peoples. It is not a pleasant idea to see any persons falling into such a horrible trap openly, but surely this works in your favour? So why discourage it.
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Posted - 2004.04.12 11:56:00 -
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Edited by: Ashka Neris on 12/04/2004 12:01:06
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They take our homeworld, flood the Bulletin Boards in our space with their damnable softdrink, and now they drive away the Khanid Kingdom, valued customers and friends, by buying so much Microcontrollers to use for their own perverted needs!
There will be retribution!!
There there didums
Live with it. It's called ecomonics, and at least it's better than the disgusting Khanid alternative you seem to support.
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Yuki Li
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Posted - 2004.04.12 17:06:00 -
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To be fair, the Gallente... acquisition, of Caldari Prime, was war. Not economics.
[ 2004.07.31 17:31:00 ] (combat) Gallente Police Major strikes you perfectly, wrecking for 427.9 damage.
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Argon
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Posted - 2004.04.12 17:17:00 -
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Indeed, and in this case this example of economics is to the benefit of the state.
I wonder though, what will happen if these chips end up causing problems such as happened with the protein delicacies....
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Ashka Neris
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Posted - 2004.04.12 17:22:00 -
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To be fair, the Gallente... acquisition, of Caldari Prime, was war. Not economics.
To be fair the orginal aurgument was about Quafe and Transcranial Processors, not the acquisition of Caldari Prime. You're changing the subject
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Yuki Li
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Posted - 2004.04.12 21:01:00 -
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if i were to change the subject, i'd find something i like to talk about to change it to.
Like torpedoes.
[ 2004.07.31 17:31:00 ] (combat) Gallente Police Major strikes you perfectly, wrecking for 427.9 damage.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.04.13 00:42:00 -
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I believe the gallentean mass exodus from reality, through the extensive use of the transcranial microcontrollers, is proof enough of the shallow existance your average citizen of the Federation leads.
The Caldari will let the market decide who buys these gadgets, and they are in every right to do so.
I personally have little faith in microcontrollers as a means to further slavery, but then again I rarely see eye to eye with the Khanid on matters.
The point still remains that the Gallente are drowning in their own decadence and self indulgence, worshipping all the wrong ideals in life to the point of their own Doom.
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2004.04.13 01:00:00 -
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Edited by: AsheRaven on 13/04/2004 01:02:32
Yet they remain the one empire you havnt brainwashed or been able to conquer don't they Gauis
Wait a minuite.. don't tell me
"soon, little chimp, soon"
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Ezar Vorbarra
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Posted - 2004.04.13 01:14:00 -
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Edited by: AsheRaven on 13/04/2004 01:02:32
Yet they remain the one empire you havnt brainwashed or been able to conquer don't they Gauis
Wait a minuite.. don't tell me
"soon, little chimp, soon"
Last time I checked we had not tried to subjugate the Gallente. I do remember that your entire race fell to our forces like a deck of cheap playing cards.
I am against the use of the transcranial chips myself. The primary purpose of Amarrian slavery is to teach our laborers the Holy Scriptures, and to help them rise out of the depths of pagan barbarity. How can an adopted worker learn the grace of God after being turned into a mindless robot?
Deacon Ezar Vorbarra
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.04.13 01:35:00 -
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Edited by: AsheRaven on 13/04/2004 01:02:32
Yet they remain the one empire you havnt brainwashed or been able to conquer don't they Gauis
Wait a minuite.. don't tell me
"soon, little chimp, soon"
I know you are semi-capable of rational thought and somewhat constructive discussion, so give it another try Ashe.
The Gallente are lining up to fool themselves into a cyber reality with but a marginal foothold in real life, something you, or me, would not even offer slaves.
Amarr has nothing to do with this, you must realise that at the very least. We merely await the implosion of a society so foul and corrupted, it is turning on itself in a frenzy of sloth and moral decay.
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Bigfoot Hunter
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Posted - 2004.04.13 02:47:00 -
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We merely await the implosion of a society so foul and corrupted, it is turning on itself in a frenzy of sloth and moral decay.
For minute I thought you where talking about your own people a culture and society so corrupt and backward a advertising campaign for a softdrink drove some them to mass murder and the vast majority didnt condon the attack they didnt condem it either .
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2004.04.13 06:41:00 -
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Cydrone,
Who cares what they do with the chips after they are sold. They provide a higher asking price..then Ishkone is going to sell them higher to compensate to increase thier profits.
After they purchase the chips from the State, it isnt our problem anymore. The ISK is in our economy now makeing us just that much more stronger.
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Tsual
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Posted - 2004.04.13 09:04:00 -
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Edited by: Tsual on 13/04/2004 09:05:33
Interesting to see in which pathes some people think here:
From the simple line of Gallente pay higher for Microcontrollers and Khanid wonÆt buy because to expensive, we start off with a Caldari bashing the Federation in a profane way, went over to the economic counter arguments get the Gallente society is on decay grumble and then end with the ôYou Amarr are evilö-ôYou Minmatar are dogsö disputing.
To be honest that is more amusing than the typical 08/15 Gallente soap opera holoreel û except the missing sexuality, though I can live with that.
Nevermind, go on with your show.
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Celebon
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Posted - 2004.04.13 09:46:00 -
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The fact that so many within Gallente space are buying the chips speaks volumes about the satisfaction the populace have with their government. Yes, portions of the sales are due to the bored upper classes, but reports have also shown that many are using the chips to get away from everyday life in the Federation.
To solve matters, Ishukone should simply design a less sophisticated version of the chip to sell to other buyers such as the Dark Ammar. If the Ammar cannot afford the chip, and are unlikely to start paying for the chips again, it would be to me, a sound commercial venture. By ensuring a deliniated difference between the abilities of the chips, the sales of more profitable "lifestyle altering" chips currently being bought in the Federation would not be greatly effected.
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2004.04.13 10:15:00 -
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Edited by: AsheRaven on 13/04/2004 01:02:32
Yet they remain the one empire you havnt brainwashed or been able to conquer don't they Gauis
Wait a minuite.. don't tell me
"soon, little chimp, soon"
I know you are semi-capable of rational thought and somewhat constructive discussion, so give it another try Ashe.
The Gallente are lining up to fool themselves into a cyber reality with but a marginal foothold in real life, something you, or me, would not even offer slaves.
Amarr has nothing to do with this, you must realise that at the very least. We merely await the implosion of a society so foul and corrupted, it is turning on itself in a frenzy of sloth and moral decay.
I knew it, he just couldn't resist.
Gauis, you are so predictable, I could play you all day ^^
Shall we begin?
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Vendris
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Posted - 2004.04.13 10:46:00 -
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...and hijack yet another thread with Amarr bad, Minmatar Good, vice versa, etc, etc, ad nauseam...
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Ashka Neris
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Posted - 2004.04.13 11:25:00 -
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It's a habit, ignore them.
Back to the topic at hand though. If you want an econmy drven by ISK, then you have to play the game. And sometimes you loose out in that game. If Quafe is such a big deal to you.. buy it out
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Jellicoe
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Posted - 2004.04.13 12:13:00 -
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It's a habit, ignore them.
Back to the topic at hand though. If you want an econmy drven by ISK, then you have to play the game. And sometimes you loose out in that game. If Quafe is such a big deal to you.. buy it out
I prefer to shoot it out
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.04.13 15:24:00 -
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Gauis, you are so predictable, I could play you all day ^^
At least I did try to stay true to the topic at hand, unlike yourself.
You are good for nothing but ridicule and your obsessive hatred.
I'll leave the thread alone then, since the 'flame crew' are 'hot' on my heels.
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Ezar Vorbarra
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Posted - 2004.04.13 18:32:00 -
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At least I did try to stay true to the topic at hand, unlike yourself.
You are good for nothing but ridicule and your obsessive hatred.
I'll leave the thread alone then, since the 'flame crew' are 'hot' on my heels.
Lord Kador, pay these "forum warrior" whelps no heed. Most of them have neither the capability nor the courage to meet you on the field of battle. If this is their only venue to rail against their betters, then so be it. I doubt anyone takes them seriously other than themselves.
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Tsual
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Posted - 2004.04.14 00:01:00 -
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At least I did try to stay true to the topic at hand, unlike yourself.
You are good for nothing but ridicule and your obsessive hatred.
I'll leave the thread alone then, since the 'flame crew' are 'hot' on my heels.
Lord Kador, pay these "forum warrior" whelps no heed. Most of them have neither the capability nor the courage to meet you on the field of battle. If this is their only venue to rail against their betters, then so be it. I doubt anyone takes them seriously other than themselves.
- Deacon Ezar Vorbarra
Ok he name a location and a time and I tell him if we must change it a bit and then let's start a one kill frigat duel, just for the sake of the duel.
I don't fear dying and I doubt he will.
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Soulchaser
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Posted - 2004.04.14 15:35:00 -
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has anyone seen my little "i-feel-so-sexy"-chip
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Tsual
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Posted - 2004.04.14 16:27:00 -
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.04.14 23:28:00 -
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Ok he name a location and a time and I tell him if we must change it a bit and then let's start a one kill frigat duel, just for the sake of the duel.
I don't fear dying and I doubt he will.
Drop it, Tsual.
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Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.04.15 06:02:00 -
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Ahhhh, who cares about all that "profit" stuff, Gallente need to burn
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2004.04.15 07:05:00 -
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Ahhhh, who cares about all that "profit" stuff, Gallente need to burn
Propehcy,
As usual you are a shining star.
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Tsual
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Posted - 2004.04.15 08:44:00 -
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Ok he name a location and a time and I tell him if we must change it a bit and then let's start a one kill frigat duel, just for the sake of the duel.
I don't fear dying and I doubt he will.
Drop it, Tsual.
I never skipt something, nevermind I could always declare war on pie, even though they might be convulsed with laughter seeing one person more in Frigat against their fleet.
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Vendris
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Posted - 2004.04.15 09:20:00 -
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I think what Gaius meant when he said "Drop it" was that this thread does not concern PIE, Minmatar terrorists, or (directly) the war on slavery gravytrain. I'm in full agreement
Drop it, or if you simply can't drop it, then take it somewhere else, preferably in space somewhere, because, frankly, it's getting old fast. Hardly a thread goes untouched by this constant bickering and slanging. Be a little considerate - There's a galaxy beyond Minmatar and Amarr space, and it's populated by people who aren't Minmatar or Amarr, and could give precisely two hoots what you think of each other.
To the topic at hand; In my view, Gallente are free to be Gallente in whatever base, perverted way they choose, because in so doing they're buying Caldari products.
In being Gallente, they made us Caldari. In being Gallente, they help us stay Caldari.
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Posted - 2004.04.15 14:22:00 -
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Does anyone else remember what happened last time the Gallente purchased something from the Ishukone Corparation?
Protein Delicacy, anyone?
Seriously, it's my belief something foul is afoot...
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Hassit Krainge
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Posted - 2004.04.16 01:30:00 -
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Ahhhh, who cares about all that "profit" stuff, Gallente need to burn
Gallente and any who stand with them, follow their depraved ways or offer support, vague, thin, or tacit in any way shape or form...need to burn.
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Posted - 2004.04.16 04:11:00 -
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Does anyone else remember what happened last time the Gallente purchased something from the Ishukone Corparation?
Protein Delicacy, anyone?.
Um... That was Sukuuvesta...
Now: Addressing all of the points here in just a few sentences (because Ghod only knows I've already made my long post for the day):
Re: Caldari Prime. This relates to Transcranial Processors in what way, exactly?
Re: Minmatar vs. Amarr: This relates to "Those damned Gallente" in which way, exactly?
Re: What we choose to do in our own free time, with or without Transcranial Processors: I know a bit of electronics, and I cobbled this device together with a Transcranial Processor. I got the design from GalNet. It's really neat. You plug it into your neural jacks and then you push the button on it. It's fun. I'll finish this point and then I'll go push the button a few more times, because it's fun and none of your damn business!
Re: Torpedoes: Yuki Li once again has shown that true meaning and wisdom, at the end of the day, often needs only one word to describe.
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Posted - 2004.04.16 05:04:00 -
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To the original poster-
I think the Gallente Senator's recent mishap shows exactly what these chips are being used for.
Perhaps a few of the GAllente government's pilots might make similar mistakes? In which case, you can deliver your opinion to them via railgun or cruise missle.
Remember- Actions speak louder than words...and I can't think of many things louder than a cruise missle detonation.
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Posted - 2004.04.16 08:01:00 -
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BURN EVERYTHING!
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Posted - 2004.04.16 08:34:00 -
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Um... That was Sukuuvesta...
I knew it was to early in the morning to be posting...
I stand corrected.
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Treylon
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Posted - 2004.04.17 01:05:00 -
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The Federation was justified in taking the action they did against the Caldari sepratists. Can we forget the bombing of the domes in Nouvelle Rouvenor? The Caldari started it, and We finished it by driving them out of our system. Since the peace, the Caldari continue an economic war, and fail when compared to the Gallente giant Quafe.
As for the microcranialcontrollers or whaever they are, it's just another fine example of how some of the corrupt amarrian ways can go awry in the Federation. Somthing must be done about them, they should be banned from Federation space before all our leaders become babbling balarena's.
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Bigfoot Hunter
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Posted - 2004.04.17 01:53:00 -
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Hmm we bombed you then you bombed us from orbit then we fight you crash a ship into a city both sides have attrocities dont act like it only went one way . And i dont get why gallente females would need these chips i can think of 100 other things that i could do with em for some fun some would involve whipped cream .
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Posted - 2004.04.17 02:09:00 -
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Edited by: Gaius Kador on 17/04/2004 02:11:57
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As for the microcranialcontrollers or whaever they are, it's just another fine example of how some of the corrupt amarrian ways can go awry in the Federation. Somthing must be done about them, they should be banned from Federation space before all our leaders become babbling balarena's.
You pinnacle of pathetic idiocy! By God you should be burnt alive.
You have the gall to blame your decadent DE-vo-lution on US!!!!
Know what, the Inquisition is today governed by PIE, war declarations remain under IMPERIAL control. You should beg, dog, of mercy and compassion, for I am tempted to bring you bleeding to your knees and beyond.
You infuriate me to the level GRADIENT did earlier, and what a useless FEDO you are....
*SPITS AT SCREEN*
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Geariven
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Posted - 2004.04.17 09:21:00 -
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Once again, religious fervor overcome's an Amarrian's sense of reason.
No wonder the minmatar rebels still plague your empire.
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Steiner
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Posted - 2004.04.17 14:50:00 -
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Just to point out the State Factionaism, Isukone is one of the Liberals. They want a steady flow in trade universal scale. So to answer the Proein Dele, I honestly doubt that they would plan anything like that.
But on the other hand the Federation is just stepping one stepp closer to there own inevedable doom by . Even you senete members are going nuts, and you say that the Federation is the best there is thats...
I Stand with the Patriots! We will be the largest Militry to take our rightful homeworld again! One way or another!
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Tsual
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Posted - 2004.04.17 16:26:00 -
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As long as the Gallente get a healthy grip on their behaviors I don't mind, their freetime is their freetime and they can spend it like they want.
I even forsee a possible interesting use for this chip, other then bringing slaves in line and compensating inferiority complex of Federation citizens, in the end the secret services might become the big purchaser of such chips or perhaps producer.
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Jellicoe
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Posted - 2004.04.17 16:51:00 -
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For so long as the Gallente occupy our homeworld, so long are the Gallente our enemy.
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Tsual
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Posted - 2004.04.17 16:58:00 -
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Edited by: Tsual on 17/04/2004 16:59:12
Similar says a part of the matari about our ,by the Amarrians, enslaved brethens, it seems that some things, like the speed of light, are constant in this world.
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2004.04.17 18:37:00 -
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Grrarrrg!!! Give us back our homeworld!!!! Grraagg!!!
<rolls eyes>
Stop wasteing your time. Its not worth the time and money...
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Treylon
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Posted - 2004.04.18 02:43:00 -
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Edited by: Gaius Kador on 17/04/2004 02:11:57
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As for the microcranialcontrollers or whaever they are, it's just another fine example of how some of the corrupt amarrian ways can go awry in the Federation. Somthing must be done about them, they should be banned from Federation space before all our leaders become babbling balarena's.
You pinnacle of pathetic idiocy! By God you should be burnt alive.
You have the gall to blame your decadent DE-vo-lution on US!!!!
Know what, the Inquisition is today governed by PIE, war declarations remain under IMPERIAL control. You should beg, dog, of mercy and compassion, for I am tempted to bring you bleeding to your knees and beyond.
You infuriate me to the level GRADIENT did earlier, and what a useless FEDO you are....
*SPITS AT SCREEN*
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Typical Amarrians, think they're better than everyone. If anything can burn, let it be your whole stinkin Empire. Maybe the Khanids need a spanking from President Fortain, and i bet they will and your new Emperor won't do crap about it. As the inevitable call of freedom calls to the citizens of EVE, those who would control it get more desprate, these chips are just that. The more desprate and drastic measures your Empire makes to control slaves, the more everyone notices the inhumanity of it all.
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