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Tassill	Posted - 2008.03.22 02:03:00 - [1] /Signed for the op Nano cruisers (hac's and recons) and up have removed the need for smaller frigates (intys eaf) Nano cruisers have removed a large part of tactics in pvp (no need to control the starting range of a fight if u can cover any range in seconds) lastly nano cruisers have made the game booring and predictable Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Tassill GREY COUNCIL Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.22 02:09:00 - [2] Originally by: Terazuk Edited by: Terazuk on 22/03/2008 02:07:00 Originally by: Tassill /Signed for the op Your stuff, give it to me now. No, but ill take yours
Tassill GREY COUNCIL Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.22 02:11:00 - [3] Originally by: Matrixcvd Originally by: Tassill /Signed for the op Nano cruisers (hac's and recons) and up have removed the need for smaller frigates (intys eaf) Nano cruisers have removed a large part of tactics in pvp (no need to control the starting range of a fight if u can cover any range in seconds) lastly nano cruisers have made the game booring and predictable this is a pile of horse sh1t. if anything they have increased tactics as you can move more freely in combat, different levels of the fight are happening all around you. there is more stuff you need to be aware of. Inty's and frigs need SUPPORT! They are still the kings of speed but need log, ewar to sustain themselves, that adds discipline and difficulty to a complex game and YOU NEED TO LEARN HOW TO FLY YOUR SHIP FIRST THEN GET A GOOD FC this is a pile of horse sh1t, you need to try and restrain yourself and come up with some deacent arguments rather than making it personal and hoping to prevoke me.
Tassill GREY COUNCIL Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.22 02:15:00 - [4] Originally by: Terazuk Originally by: Tassill Originally by: Terazuk Edited by: Terazuk on 22/03/2008 02:07:00 Originally by: Tassill /Signed for the op Your stuff, give it to me now. No, but ill take yours Come and get it! :p Ty, contract to Tassill at your conveniance
Tassill	Posted - 2008.03.22 02:24:00 - [5] /Signed for the op Nano cruisers (hac's and recons) and up have removed the need for smaller frigates (intys eaf) Nano cruisers have removed a large part of tactics in pvp (no need to control the starting range of a fight if u can cover any range in seconds) lastly nano cruisers have made the game booring and predictable Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Tassill	Posted - 2008.03.22 02:32:00 - [6] Edited by: Tassill on 22/03/2008 02:33:11 Originally by: Lady Karma Edited by: Lady Karma on 22/03/2008 02:27:23 Originally by: Tassill Nano cruisers have increased a large part of tactics in pvp (can't go afk and press F1-F8 if they going to fly ships well ) lastly nano cruisers have made the game booring and predictable Fixed it for you. Nano cruisers boring?!! Is that because you can't kill them in your useless missile boats OMG you are in hydra, why don't you hug a station, lose a shed load of ships and try claim victory. I am coming in hot A: What does this have to do with nano ships? B: dont edit people's post's and pretend they have said something they havent C: your a noob so post with your main or stfu Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Tassill GREY COUNCIL Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.22 02:52:00 - [7] Haha you guys are so lame, try and keep on topic for at least one post once again /Signed for the op nano ships need to be balanced
Tassill GREY COUNCIL Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.23 02:33:00 - [8] Originally by: Minigin Edited by: Minigin on 22/03/2008 22:39:29 Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf a smart pilot can almost always escape or not engage, a dumb one will still lose a lot less ships than they would normally. but the same can be said about any ship class... if you are in a battleship and have a wingman of a falcon and a scout... there is no real encounter that you should not be able to avoid or disengage. So whats next? we nerf tanks so that if you engage on one side of the gate you die on that side? Or maybe we should just start letting people win fights by typing the number of people in their gang in a square box by the side of their screen. Whoever has more ships is instantly guaranteed victory and the other team has its ships blown up by a dev. I like where this is going. EVERYTHING IN ***** EVE IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE GEARED TO BLOB WARFARE! THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS! AND ILL BE *** DAMNED IF IM NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND SHOUT ABOUT IT UNTIL YOU INEXPERIENCED PLAYERS GET IN GAME AND FIND OUT MORE ABOUT YOUR OWN INCOMPETANCE RATHER THAN BLAME IT ON SOMETHING THAT IS SO OBVIOUSLY WELL BALANCED AND ALLOWS HIGHER SKILLED, RICHER PILOTS(and perhaps most importantly and correctly like darkness said - people who actually know how to fly these ships) TO FIGHT BLOBS! The correlation between how much you spend on your ship, how many skills you have, and how well you know how to fly it(in particular this one i think) is not limited to nanohacs. The question is now not whether nanos should be nerfed... but if any** successful pvp strategy should be? OMGOMGOMGOGMGOMGOGMOGMGOM U HAS MONEY & SKILLZZZ???? YOU MUST BE HAXSPLOITING!!!I1!!111111!oneeleventyone1 Higher sp characters and richer pilots do have other options for fighting the blob! Look at burn eden for example, they are very successfull at this using their tactic of very small mixed gang's using a few sniper bs with light tackler support. However whilst other options are available to high sp toons the fact remains that most "higher sp" character just prefer the easy mode (which is nano gangs) as this meens they no longer require covert scouts to check gates for them and make warp in's... all the tactical stuff. Burn Eden's tactic is unfortunatly not quite as good at catching noob isk farmers in the belts but tbh all you need is a rifter to kill one of them so lets not bring them into it. I dont claim to be better than any one at pvp but I am competent and rich enough to fly nano ships. My hanger atm is filled with a ton of nano ships because they are the best thing around to fly atm and i will keep flying them because they are effective. However TBH I think it is starting to get booring and I know a lot of other people do to (it was one of the reasons Cruel Intentions disbanded) and I am rich enough and high enough in sp's to know that when the nano nerf comes I will be in a good position for the next effective thing.
Tassill GREY COUNCIL Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.24 02:16:00 - [9] My ship is biger than your so it should win? No not quite what people have been saying. T1 ships should be able to fight their t2 counterparts. As it is atm a 100 man t1 cruiser gang would have no chance against a 10 man nano gang if they were half deacent. A t1 gang should be able to fight a t2 gang and get a kill or 2 but as it is atm this is not possiable. I remember when it was possiable (and a commonly used tactic) to take a 10 man cruiser gang vs a 5 man roaming hac gang and at least get a possiable kill out of it and as for cost this was back in the days when hacs were 200-250 mil for just the ships. I know u nano fans like to whine about how hard it is to afford these ships and how easy they are to kill but come on open your eyes and take a look at the reality of it.

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