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Thenoran
The People's Liberation Army
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Posted - 2008.03.19 11:21:00 -
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In a recent mission I came across several Sansha Cruisers & Battlecruisers, a few of which were constantly disrupting my tracking and I had to switch to my Drake to complete the mission.
Since I prefer Turrets over Launchers, are there any counters to a bunch of NPC's disrupting my tracking?
Any kind of ECM that could jam their lock so I can fire back?
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Ravenal
The Fated
Odyssey.
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Posted - 2008.03.19 11:30:00 -
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they have been tracking disrupting you for a long time, why would you be having problems now?
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Dromidas Shadowmoon
54th Knights Templar
THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.19 11:31:00 -
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 Originally by: Ravenal
they have been tracking disrupting you for a long time, why would you be having problems now?
Probably because tracking disruptors got a huge boost last patch.
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Thenoran
The People's Liberation Army
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Posted - 2008.03.19 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ravenal
they have been tracking disrupting you for a long time, why would you be having problems now?
Fall-off is now also affected, as well as I haven't done all that many missions, I'm just up for getting my standings up :)
Also thinking about training for a Vagabond, a Cruiser at 720m/s...hmmm
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Ravenal
The Fated
Odyssey.
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Posted - 2008.03.19 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Dromidas Shadowmoon
Originally by: Ravenal
they have been tracking disrupting you for a long time, why would you be having problems now?
Probably because tracking disruptors got a huge boost last patch.
got disrupted by three rats the other day (had medium autocannons + emp) lost like 2 - 3 km range on optimal + falloff. Didnt notice much if any difference on their die rate. If you are relying on orbiting at max opt+fall range you are of course in a bit of a predicament. Tracking comps and tracking enhancers are your counters btw.
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Saietor Blackgreen
The First Foundation
Stella Polar
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Posted - 2008.03.19 11:54:00 -
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Are you sure any changes in TDs change anything in effects from rats?
For example, the ECM of Guristas doesnt work like the one on player ships - it has fixed probability, independent of target sensor strength - this was confirmed by Dev's when marauders came out.
NPC defenders are also probabilistic - rats fire a fixed amount of defenders per every missile launched at them. This was also confirmed when Golem came out and everybody whined that it's worse than CNR.
This makes me believe that Sansha's afe not reducing falloff, despite of change in TDs. Can be checked tho - go into mission, get TD'ed and check the attributes of your gun.
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Thenoran
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Posted - 2008.03.19 11:58:00 -
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Do short-range guns (Blasters, Autocannons) have enough tracking on them to be more resistant to disruption? They would still have some tracking left and if I got the Transversal down, could I hit anything?
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Saietor Blackgreen
The First Foundation
Stella Polar
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Posted - 2008.03.19 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: Thenoran
Do short-range guns (Blasters, Autocannons) have enough tracking on them to be more resistant to disruption? They would still have some tracking left and if I got the Transversal down, could I hit anything?
Should be possible. Autocannons will be the best if Sanshas dont reduce falloff - ACs have best base tracking and their falloff will do magic, and EMP is your friend. But blasters will do also due to DPS advantage.
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Mark Interiis
The Pack Miners
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Posted - 2008.03.19 12:12:00 -
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Even 425s (the railguns) can hit at next to point blank if you just pilot manual rather than automated orbit, switch the camera back and forth a few times untill your ship is flying relatively parallel to the target and you'll see transversal drop by a huge amount.
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Terianna Eri
FMP Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.19 13:31:00 -
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If they're orbiting you, then fly a few km towards them. they'll start flying away from you at which point they become really, really easy targets.
If they're approaching you, switch to longer range ammo and shoot them.
NPC TDs are really, really weak tbh.
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Thenoran
The People's Liberation Army
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Posted - 2008.03.19 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri
If they're orbiting you, then fly a few km towards them. they'll start flying away from you at which point they become really, really easy targets.
If they're approaching you, switch to longer range ammo and shoot them.
NPC TDs are really, really weak tbh.
Won't they just orbit me as I try to move to them? Last I checked when a Frigate or Drone is orbiting me, they are faster then my ship (Would love to see how a Stabber or Vaga would do).
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Saietor Blackgreen
The First Foundation
Stella Polar
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Posted - 2008.03.19 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Thenoran
Won't they just orbit me as I try to move to them? Last I checked when a Frigate or Drone is orbiting me, they are faster then my ship (Would love to see how a Stabber or Vaga would do).
If you are in a BS or BC these should be taken out by your drones anyway, not your turrets. Large turrets and medium long-range turrets cant take out orbiting NPC frigs or drones of any NPC type, sansha's TDs have nothing to do with it really.
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Thenoran
The People's Liberation Army
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Posted - 2008.03.19 14:49:00 -
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Currently I have a Rokh and a Moa at my disposal, would a Blaster Moa be able to hit Frigs & Drones? (Got Painter & Webber)
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Mark Interiis
The Pack Miners
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Posted - 2008.03.19 15:01:00 -
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Edited by: Mark Interiis on 19/03/2008 15:01:48
anything webber can be hit with any blaster really
Edit, PvE wise (don't flame me )
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