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2bhammered
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:33:00 -
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http://kotaku.com/5886674/bioware-writer-describes-her-gaming-tastes-angry-gamers-call-her-a-cancer?tag=jenniferhepler
The cause of this uproar appears to have been a question about least favorite thing about working in the gaming industry was. Her answer: "Playing the games."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li4indfogkU&list=UUliFIp2_QLnTnfYQei75nfw&index=3&feature=plcp
(her picture)
we should note that Hepler herself has responded with some fire of her own, Tweeting on Saturday, "I just figure they're jealous that I get to have both a vagina AND a games industry job, and they can't get either."
http://kotaku.com/5887064/biowares-boss-defends-harassed-writer?tag=jenniferhepler
Bioware today? http://youtu.be/WwEJfr3NAQA
Latest game DA2 failed and now SWTOR AKA TORTANIC that has sunk with an active campaign to refuse to buy ME3, has Bioware become the next in line to die at the hands of EA as so many other great studios has done in the past?
Is there a studio left at EA making "good" games?
Still, before I lose track of the point with this thread, how the frack can Hepler keep this job or get it in the first place?
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Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:44:00 -
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Oh look another internet boycott, I am sure it will be as successful as all the others. |

2bhammered
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:50:00 -
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Jhagiti Tyran wrote:Oh look another internet boycott, I am sure it will be as successful as all the others.
ENGLISH M*F*, DO YOU SPEAK IT??? |

Jhagiti Tyran
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:52:00 -
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NO CAPS LOCK I SPEAK THAT!
(Try italics instead, makes you look a little less like an assburger badposter)
P.S.
The forum has other useful functions like edit buttons, those come in handy from time to time also. |

2bhammered
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:56:00 -
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Jhagiti Tyran wrote:NO CAPS LOCK I SPEAK THAT!
(Try italics instead, makes you look a little less like an assburger badposter)
P.S.
The forum has other useful functions like edit buttons, those come in handy from time to time also.

Crack kills! |

Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:23:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:http://kotaku.com/5886674/bioware-writer-describes-her-gaming-tastes-angry-gamers-call-her-a-cancer?tag=jenniferhepler
The cause of this uproar appears to have been a question about least favorite thing about working in the gaming industry was. Her answer: "Playing the games." Wow miss the point of the Article much...
Quote:The cause of this uproar appears to have been her response to a question about what her least favorite thing about working in the gaming industry was. Her answer: "Playing the games." The original Reddit post featured a heavily edited version of the interview, which subtracted the fact that Hepler is expecting a child in the coming months, and therefore has a minimal amount of time to dedicate to gaming. She also mentioned that she finds it difficult to get immersed in a game that is not complemented by a good story: "While I enjoy the interactive aspects of gaming, if a game doesn't have a good story, it's very hard for me to get interested in playing it." Oh no she puts her children before gaming and like novels does not enjoy video games outside her preferred genre.
Clearly a Monster.
2bhammered wrote: Still, before I lose track of the point with this thread, how the frack can Hepler keep this job or get it in the first place?
By ignoring the whining of no-lifers. She has not really done anything wrong except be the target of a ton of nerd rage.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:24:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:Still, before I lose track of the point with this thread, how the frack can Hepler keep this job or get it in the first place?
Because writing talent does not require gaming talent.
TL,DR: immature fanboys don't understand how the real world works, act immature. |

2bhammered
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:27:00 -
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Merin Ryskin wrote:2bhammered wrote:Still, before I lose track of the point with this thread, how the frack can Hepler keep this job or get it in the first place? Because writing talent does not require gaming talent. TL,DR: immature fanboys don't understand how the real world works, act immature.
But I have yet to see a single example of her "talent". |

Jhagiti Tyran
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:32:00 -
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The worst part off all this is the assburger posters like the OP pulled a five year old quote in the attempt to justify their rage. |

2bhammered
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:41:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote: By ignoring the whining of no-lifers. She has not really done anything wrong except be the target of a ton of nerd rage.
"I just figure they're jealous that I get to have both a vagina AND a games industry job, and they can't get either."
Yeah.... nothing wrong... hmm
Great PR, coupled with her alienating fans, horrible public image and this http://youtu.be/hMcVZQI6ybw?t=33s
How well did DA2 do? Amazing writing 
Now Biowares best writer left, http://www.joystiq.com/2012/02/17/bioware-lead-writer-drew-karpyshyn-leaves-bioware/
But at least "He cites Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2 as proof that "BioWare can get along just fine without me."
Well DA2 was a massive failure, Hepler had a part in that?! ME3, time will tell or just google the spoilers.
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2bhammered
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:43:00 -
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Jhagiti Tyran wrote:The worst part off all this is the assburger posters like the OP pulled a five year old quote in the attempt to justify their rage.
Seriously, crack kills, you should stop using it |

Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:48:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:But I have yet to see a single example of her "talent".
Fine, then argue that she's a bad writer (without the personal insults). However, that has nothing to do with the incredibly stupid claim that her lack of gaming skills means anything.
2bhammered wrote:"I just figure they're jealous that I get to have both a vagina AND a games industry job, and they can't get either."
Yeah.... nothing wrong... hmm
The truth hurts, doesn't it?
Quote:How well did DA2 do? Amazing writing 
Actually I really liked DA2.
(And yes, I enjoyed killing stuff as well as the story.) |

Jhagiti Tyran
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:48:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:Jhagiti Tyran wrote:The worst part off all this is the assburger posters like the OP pulled a five year old quote in the attempt to justify their rage. Seriously, crack kills, you should stop using it 
AT LEAST I HAVE A BRAIN TO GET ADDLED BY CRACK IN THE FIRST PLACE, UNLIKE YOU LOLOLOL. |

Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:54:00 -
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Merin Ryskin wrote:2bhammered wrote:But I have yet to see a single example of her "talent". Fine, then argue that she's a bad writer (without the personal insults). However, that has nothing to do with the incredibly stupid claim that her lack of gaming skills means anything. 2bhammered wrote:"I just figure they're jealous that I get to have both a vagina AND a games industry job, and they can't get either."
Yeah.... nothing wrong... hmm The truth hurts, doesn't it? Quote:How well did DA2 do? Amazing writing  Actually I really liked DA2. (And yes, I enjoyed killing stuff as well as the story.)
The story for DA2 was actually really good. I just didn't like what they did to the fighting mechanics.
-Liang
Ed: Also, this is a disgrace and it should make everyone involved ashamed. Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://vimeo.com/user9887127
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2bhammered
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:55:00 -
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Merin Ryskin wrote:
Fine, then argue that she's a bad writer (without the personal insults). However, that has nothing to do with the incredibly stupid claim that her lack of gaming skills means anything.
Well I can do that but this thread is about her being a "cancer" Well, the fact that it has gotten this much attention is why I made the thread, I find it funny and not surprising but her reply sure is priceless. Like ding dong bannu end of rhine worthy 
Merin Ryskin wrote: The truth hurts, doesn't it?
Not really, I got ***** and I enjoy my work, perhaps those at reddit and stuff are jealous? But meh, if that was the case then better developers would be targeted.
Merin Ryskin wrote:Actually I really liked DA2. (And yes, I enjoyed killing stuff as well as the story.)
Did you type that with a straight face? Because I have never seen anyone say that about DA2 with a straight face before
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:58:00 -
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Another embarrassing and stunningly stupid move by gamers. Well done!
I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |

Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:58:00 -
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2bhammered wrote: "I just figure they're jealous that I get to have both a vagina AND a games industry job, and they can't get either."
Yeah.... nothing wrong... hmm
Perhaps they should not take a years old quote about the lack of time her motherhood has afforded her for gaming and misrepresent it. You know what that sounds like, that sounds like a bunch of people who are jealous that she gets to have both a vagina AND a games industry job, and they can't get either.
2bhammered wrote: But at least "He cites Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2 as proof that "BioWare can get along just fine without me."
Well DA2 was a massive failure, Hepler had a part in that?! ME3, time will tell or just google the spoilers.
Massive no, not a massive hit but definitely not a massive failure. Even then you have no idea what parts of the story she has worked on. Could be all the good parts but you are quick to judge with no facts. |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2012.02.22 21:00:00 -
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HOW DARE SHE EXPRESS AN OPINION THAT DIFFERS FROM MINE! 
I'm not exactly sure why you'd play a game if you skipped all the parts where you actually play. If you don't like combat games, play puzzle games. But if she really just wants to watch all the Final Fantasy cutscenes in order with a page of connecting text in between, I'm sure that could be arranged without her actually having to play the game at all. She has an opinion on what she thinks makes a good game, and *gasp* it's not the same as other gamers.
In other news, I dislike StarCraft (as compared with other, better RTS). OH NOES. |

Alpheias
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Posted - 2012.02.22 21:03:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:Merin Ryskin wrote:Actually I really liked DA2. (And yes, I enjoyed killing stuff as well as the story.) Did you type that with a straight face? Because I have never seen anyone say that about DA2 with a straight face before 
I enjoyed DA2 as well, despite its flaws, it was a pretty good game. DA:O has its flaws too, but I haven't seen anyone complain about them with a straight face. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |

Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2012.02.22 21:04:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:Well I can do that but this thread is about her being a "cancer"  Well, the fact that it has gotten this much attention is why I made the thread, I find it funny and not surprising but her reply sure is priceless. Like ding dong bannu end of rhine worthy 
Exactly my point. Instead of legitimate criticism, all we have is immature fanboys whining and crying because the real world doesn't work like they wish it did.
Like it or not, anyone who calls her a "cancer" over this is an ignorant child who is accomplishing nothing more than giving gamers a bad name.
Quote:Not really, I got ***** and I enjoy my work, perhaps those at reddit and stuff are jealous? But meh, if that was the case then better developers would be targeted.
No "perhaps" about it, this is exactly the kind of behavior we see over and over again from immature fanboys. They don't know how to deal with women (or their own lack of success in that area), they don't have their dream job as a game developer (which is nothing like real game development), and they don't have the social skills to criticize something without resorting to personal attacks.
In short, they're jealous of the fact that the job they want went to someone who isn't one of them, and it's just insult to injury that it's a woman.
Quote:Did you type that with a straight face? Because I have never seen anyone say that about DA2 with a straight face before
How shocking, people actually have different tastes in games. |

2bhammered
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Posted - 2012.02.22 21:05:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:2bhammered wrote: "I just figure they're jealous that I get to have both a vagina AND a games industry job, and they can't get either."
Yeah.... nothing wrong... hmm
Perhaps they should not take a years old quote about the lack of time her motherhood has afforded her for gaming and misrepresent it. You know what that sounds like, that sounds like a bunch of people who are jealous that she gets to have both a vagina AND a games industry job, and they can't get either. 2bhammered wrote: But at least "He cites Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2 as proof that "BioWare can get along just fine without me."
Well DA2 was a massive failure, Hepler had a part in that?! ME3, time will tell or just google the spoilers.
Massive no, not a massive hit but definitely not a massive failure. Even then you have no idea what parts of the story she has worked on. Could be all the good parts but you are quick to judge with no facts.
It seems other people are now misrepresenting the quote she made?! Yeah!
Massive yes? Again, check scores and sales vs investment but maybe you are right, a small failure, Bioware can afford a few of those after all?
What parts of the story she worked on? Well the video I linked in my reply to you describe one part she worked on, romance. |

2bhammered
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Posted - 2012.02.22 21:06:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote: In other news, I dislike StarCraft (as compared with other, better RTS). OH NOES.
Blasphemer! |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard
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Posted - 2012.02.22 21:09:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:
What parts of the story she worked on? Well the video I linked in my reply to you describe one part she worked on, romance.
I see now why you and so many others are so upset, you want the romance to be more interactive.
Perhaps you should try those Japanese dating games instead, but in my country they are defined as kiddie **** so do it at your own risk. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |

2bhammered
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Posted - 2012.02.22 21:14:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:2bhammered wrote:
What parts of the story she worked on? Well the video I linked in my reply to you describe one part she worked on, romance.
I see now why you and so many others are so upset, you want the romance to be more interactive. Perhaps you should try those Japanese dating games instead, but in my country they are defined as kiddie **** so do it at your own risk.

Great, so either I go with twilight level of romances with George Lucas dialogue or hentai? I feel sorry for you!
BTW what country is that? I am curious! |

Alpheias
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Posted - 2012.02.22 21:22:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:Alpheias wrote:2bhammered wrote:
What parts of the story she worked on? Well the video I linked in my reply to you describe one part she worked on, romance.
I see now why you and so many others are so upset, you want the romance to be more interactive. Perhaps you should try those Japanese dating games instead, but in my country they are defined as kiddie **** so do it at your own risk.  Great, so either I go with twilight level of romances with George Lucas dialogue or hentai? I feel sorry for you! 
Yeah, I am pretty jealous in fact, knowing that you have all twilight romances with George Lucas dialogues and hentai in the world whereas I have none. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |

Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2012.02.22 21:23:00 -
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Just because she was in charge of "romance writing" doesn't mean that she was in charge of the crazed characters that the rest of the story had to do. Anders the Angry and Emo Elf were pretty well done considering the limitations she had to work with.
IMO.
-Liang
Ed: I forgot the total **** pirate lady. She probably didn't have a lot of leeway there either - I'm sure mgmt told her to make a caricature woman for everyone to salivate over. Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://vimeo.com/user9887127
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2bhammered
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Posted - 2012.02.22 21:28:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:2bhammered wrote:Alpheias wrote:2bhammered wrote:
What parts of the story she worked on? Well the video I linked in my reply to you describe one part she worked on, romance.
I see now why you and so many others are so upset, you want the romance to be more interactive. Perhaps you should try those Japanese dating games instead, but in my country they are defined as kiddie **** so do it at your own risk.  Great, so either I go with twilight level of romances with George Lucas dialogue or hentai? I feel sorry for you!  Yeah, I am pretty jealous in fact, knowing that you have all twilight romances with George Lucas dialogues and hentai in the world whereas I have none.
Your reply made no sense to me, could you explain yourself in greater detail perhaps? |

Jhagiti Tyran
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Posted - 2012.02.22 21:31:00 -
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Of all the parts of DA2 to complain about OP chooses the crappy romance parts, all romance in Bioware games is lame fanservice anyway so who would really give a ****? |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard
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Posted - 2012.02.22 21:32:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:Alpheias wrote:2bhammered wrote:Alpheias wrote:2bhammered wrote:
What parts of the story she worked on? Well the video I linked in my reply to you describe one part she worked on, romance.
I see now why you and so many others are so upset, you want the romance to be more interactive. Perhaps you should try those Japanese dating games instead, but in my country they are defined as kiddie **** so do it at your own risk.  Great, so either I go with twilight level of romances with George Lucas dialogue or hentai? I feel sorry for you!  Yeah, I am pretty jealous in fact, knowing that you have all twilight romances with George Lucas dialogues and hentai in the world whereas I have none. Your reply made no sense to me, could you explain yourself in greater detail perhaps?
You want to drag sense into something as nonsensical as this thread? Surely, you jest.
I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |

2bhammered
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Posted - 2012.02.22 21:35:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Just because she was in charge of "romance writing" doesn't mean that she was in charge of the crazed characters that the rest of the story had to do. Anders the Angry and Emo Elf were pretty well done considering the limitations she had to work with.
IMO.
-Liang
Ed: I forgot the total **** pirate lady. She probably didn't have a lot of leeway there either - I'm sure mgmt told her to make a caricature woman for everyone to salivate over.
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Jennifer_Hepler
I guess that is what she is responsible for? More or less.
I still think Bioware at the very least are doing a terrible job at PR. They should get their act together, they come across as pretty damn stupid.
Like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYfhTbNM-2Q&feature=BFa&list=UUliFIp2_QLnTnfYQei75nfw&lf=plcp

Oh and ding dong bannu end of rhine will remain a classic for years to come. |
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