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fugly contractor
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.08 01:24:00 -
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Crystal Liche wrote:omgthisiscrazyomg wrote:So first you give bears ezmode WoW-like incursions to run with almost no chance of griefing. It's basically free isk for anyone with half of a brain. Now all you see in missions is mission-bots which ccp will never do anything about because it's probably 25% of their subs. NOW you break the orca so that we can't swap while being aggressed, and without any patchnotes? I mean come on, NO PATCH NOTES? A simple "oh yea that thing you guys have been doing for years now, trained specific alts for, yea... it no longer works" would've been nice, but we're griefers so i guess we don't get the common courtesy that other players do.
Serious carebear nutthugging going on and I dont like it... Time to suicide every single 5.0 pod that is heading to jita for the next 2 months.
Seriously, this game is getting horrible. This post doesn't even make sense, changing ships in combat was an unrealistic carebear feature, it was a way of REMOVING risk, now there is more risk, which is obviously why you are crying. U Mad Carebear? 
You kidding? there was plenty of risk, it actually allows me to risk an even more expensive ship than the one i'm initially shot in every time I gank. Anyways, it seems pretty obvious that ccp is going to continue to be gay and not even acknowledge the change. Back to suiciding for a few months. |

Meita Way
My Hat is Made of LOVE
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Posted - 2011.09.08 01:25:00 -
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This was bound to change at some point, shame though, it made for many entertaining blog posts  |

fugly contractor
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.08 01:31:00 -
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Pharos Pharos wrote:fugly contractor wrote: Also, you seem to underestimate the kind of preparation and knowledge (and subsequent stupidity on the other persons part) it takes to set up a gank where an ORCA can catch up to a COMBAT SHIP of any kind.
I really don't think I am when you admit that it's the targets lack of knowledge of gang mechanics that makes it possible. Furthermore, it's not station games that are the issue, it's docking ships in carriers/orcas specifically to AVOID the aggression timers. (i.e., to not lose a ship when aggressed) I'm fine with aggression timers as they are, this was a method of bypassing them. So sorry, yeah, had to go.
TBH if you're competent at all you shouldn't fight someone next to a carrier/orca unless you have your own and if they're trying to bring one in you shouldn't be so failfit that you get outran by one, not to mention, you can just warp out when they swap. Orca or not it's still a 2v1 so you're still outmanned so orca or neut domi you'd still likely die anyways, l2pvp. It doesn't matter what the mechanics are because people will adapt to the mechanics, it's the CHANGING of the mechanics that causes problems when people have a lot of time and money invested in characters that do very specific things. ESPECIALLY when it's due to the cries of highsec carebears who have it way to easy in this game already. |

Pharos Pharos
Nephilim Industries
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Posted - 2011.09.08 01:38:00 -
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I'm not sure what you don't get about the following situation - a pimped t3 or other such ship engages you on station, or even in a belt, or whatnot, and whether through bait tanking on your part or backup arriving is put in a situation where it will die before it is able to deagress. Instead of dying, he stores his ship in an unaggressed carrier and docks up safely/or stores his ship safely in the carrier while his backup arrives. The only thing this is doing is removing risk.
Similarly, your 'expensive' ship is never truly at risk when you can swap it out again in the event you run into some unexpected trouble. Change is the nature of MMO's - Orca alts are useful for plenty besides this specific tactics, if you'd like to unload yours at a discount I'd happily buy it. |

fugly contractor
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.08 01:41:00 -
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Pharos Pharos wrote:I'm not sure what you don't get about the following situation - a pimped t3 or other such ship engages you on station, or even in a belt, or whatnot, and whether through bait tanking on your part or backup arriving is put in a situation where it will die before it is able to deagress. Instead of dying, he stores his ship in an unaggressed carrier and docks up safely/or stores his ship safely in the carrier while his backup arrives. The only thing this is doing is removing risk.
Similarly, your 'expensive' ship is never truly at risk when you can swap it out again in the event you run into some unexpected trouble. Change is the nature of MMO's - Orca alts are useful for plenty besides this specific tactics, if you'd like to unload yours at a discount I'd happily buy it.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? you DO know that there is a short window when storing the ship that it has NO bonuses and you could VERY easily 1 volley it. Anyone who swaps their shiney ship BACK into the orca/carrier is riding a very fine line. |

Solomar Espersei
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2011.09.08 02:18:00 -
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It's not like there are any real people running missions anyways.  Recruiting is OPEN Please join our public channel The Ninja Dojo for more info |

Kengutsi Akira
GloboTech Industries
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Posted - 2011.09.08 02:27:00 -
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Pewyourdead wrote:Denidil wrote:fixes for exploits don't go into patch notes. i'd remove your post content before you get banned for admitting using exploits. If only you knew how prevailant orca swapping is.....
Hey neat, if lotsa ppl use it its not an exploit.
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Ashina Sito
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.08 02:34:00 -
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All I gotta say is LTG, (Learn to gank)
Complaining about losing the ability to use an obviously broken game dynamic just shows you only lack the skill, and creativity of a true ganker.
Battle Hulk baby 56 an 0.
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Dex Ironmind
Vorpal's Edge
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Posted - 2011.09.08 02:39:00 -
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Another NINJA successfully baited and blasted by VE!
Keep feeding us guys! We likey!!
Dex was here.  |

Si Omega
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Posted - 2011.09.08 02:51:00 -
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derp. Reread OP's post and saw this tree among the forest. This truly, seriously, no-word-of-a-lie, made me laugh. Sooo hard in fact, I fell of me damn chair and broke my mic lead.
Quote:but we're griefers so i guess we don't get the common courtesy that other players do.
It's what we clever literary types call an Oxymoron. (nope, that's not a moron that breathes oxygen although they often create the best oxymorons!)
have a nice day 
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