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omgthisiscrazyomg
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.07 22:54:00 -
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So first you give bears ezmode WoW-like incursions to run with almost no chance of griefing. It's basically free isk for anyone with half of a brain. Now all you see in missions is mission-bots which ccp will never do anything about because it's probably 25% of their subs. NOW you break the orca so that we can't swap while being aggressed, and without any patchnotes? I mean come on, NO PATCH NOTES? A simple "oh yea that thing you guys have been doing for years now, trained specific alts for, yea... it no longer works" would've been nice, but we're griefers so i guess we don't get the common courtesy that other players do.
Serious carebear nutthugging going on and I dont like it... Time to suicide every single 5.0 pod that is heading to jita for the next 2 months.
Seriously, this game is getting horrible. |

Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.07 22:57:00 -
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What are you talking about with the orca ? |

Serious Carebear
Workers' Party
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Posted - 2011.09.07 22:58:00 -
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omgthisiscrazyomg wrote: Serious carebear nutthugging going on and I dont like it... Time to suicide every single 5.0 pod that is heading to jita for the next 2 months.
yes, u mentioned my name? |

Denidil
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.09.07 22:58:00 -
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fixes for exploits don't go into patch notes. i'd remove your post content before you get banned for admitting using exploits. WiS is kinda cool and all, but FiS is more important.-á More FIS WORK! Nerf Supers, get the new backgrounds, buff assault ships, do the 0.0 balance, buff lowsec. and make a space pony! DUST SHOULD BE ON THE PC (a real platform!) GDI! I WILL NOT BUY A FQNG PS3 |

fugly contractor
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.09.07 22:59:00 -
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I agree, reward without risk will eventually break this game, you have to be a huge idiot to ever get killed in high sec already. Don't make it any worse than it already is |

Cipher Jones
36
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Posted - 2011.09.07 23:00:00 -
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omgthisiscrazyomg wrote:So first you give bears ezmode WoW-like incursions to run with almost no chance of griefing. It's basically free isk for anyone with half of a brain. Now all you see in missions is mission-bots which ccp will never do anything about because it's probably 25% of their subs. NOW you break the orca so that we can't swap while being aggressed, and without any patchnotes? I mean come on, NO PATCH NOTES? A simple "oh yea that thing you guys have been doing for years now, trained specific alts for, yea... it no longer works" would've been nice, but we're griefers so i guess we don't get the common courtesy that other players do.
Serious carebear nutthugging going on and I dont like it... Time to suicide every single 5.0 pod that is heading to jita for the next 2 months.
Seriously, this game is getting horrible.
Uh, ninja's are carebears; the epitome of carebears in fact.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |

Pewyourdead
Suddenly Violence Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2011.09.07 23:00:00 -
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Denidil wrote:fixes for exploits don't go into patch notes. i'd remove your post content before you get banned for admitting using exploits.
If only you knew how prevailant orca swapping is.....
CCP has known about it for years now, it's not an exploit. If it was, many carebear petitions would have been reimbursed. Probably one or two of yours too. |

Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
37
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Posted - 2011.09.07 23:00:00 -
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fugly contractor wrote:I agree, reward without risk will eventually break this game, you have to be a huge idiot to ever get killed in high sec already. Don't make it any worse than it already is
I think you underestimate the power of stupid in this game [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |

Si Omega
45
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Posted - 2011.09.07 23:03:00 -
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Is that tears from a griefer. REAL tears?
Do the widdle gweefer lose his ship to the big bad Hulk dwone? Aww diddums..
km or it didn't happen. |

Pewyourdead
Suddenly Violence Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
1
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Posted - 2011.09.07 23:12:00 -
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Si Omega wrote:Is that tears from a griefer. REAL tears?
Do the widdle gweefer lose his ship to the big bad Hulk dwone? Aww diddums..
km or it didn't happen.
Sometimes, wetest game mechanics after patches just to make sure...
Good thing we did too. :D |

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.07 23:14:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:
Uh, ninja's are carebears; the epitome of carebears in fact.
You've obviously never ninja looted while the missioner is still in the same room with you.
And you've obviously never been in null and killed a hulk because they can't be arsed to look at local or dscan where the gates have 20 bubbles on them.
Now, one of these two makes more isk getting more respect for it and the other does not. We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |

Denidil
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.09.07 23:15:00 -
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Pewyourdead wrote:Denidil wrote:fixes for exploits don't go into patch notes. i'd remove your post content before you get banned for admitting using exploits. If only you knew how prevailant orca swapping is..... CCP has known about it for years now, it's not an exploit. If it was, many carebear petitions would have been reimbursed. Probably one or two of yours too.
the only time i've ever petitioned for reimbursement is when a bil isk in ships went poof during a trade because of a client crash.
and during the next DT (before the GM responded) the system automatically detected that and restored them.
i learned two things from that
1) use contracts for large asset trades 2) the eve system is pretty decent at detecting some errors. WiS is kinda cool and all, but FiS is more important.-á More FIS WORK! Nerf Supers, get the new backgrounds, buff assault ships, do the 0.0 balance, buff lowsec. and make a space pony! DUST SHOULD BE ON THE PC (a real platform!) GDI! I WILL NOT BUY A FQNG PS3 |

Jacob Stiller
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.07 23:17:00 -
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I would think this player base would be more interested in space pirates than ninjas. |

Dex Ironmind
Vorpal's Edge
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Posted - 2011.09.07 23:24:00 -
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omgthisiscrazyomg wrote:So first you give bears ezmode WoW-like incursions to run with almost no chance of griefing. It's basically free isk for anyone with half of a brain. Now all you see in missions is mission-bots which ccp will never do anything about because it's probably 25% of their subs. NOW you break the orca so that we can't swap while being aggressed, and without any patchnotes? I mean come on, NO PATCH NOTES? A simple "oh yea that thing you guys have been doing for years now, trained specific alts for, yea... it no longer works" would've been nice, but we're griefers so i guess we don't get the common courtesy that other players do.
Serious carebear nutthugging going on and I dont like it... Time to suicide every single 5.0 pod that is heading to jita for the next 2 months.
Seriously, this game is getting horrible.
So, what is the problem exactly?
Does it prohibit you from swapping ships by saying you can't?
OR
Is it actually flagging your ORCA as red flashy so you can get blown up?
If it is the second option, I say about time. I would love to have a shot at these stupid NINJA's who think they are cute by hot swapping ships in their ORCA. Their would be nothing more fun to me than baiting the NINJA, having him swap that boat out and having that ORCA go flashy RED! WHOO HOOO!!!
Also, that should make things a bit more exciting for you! Unless of course you prefer to have the free ship there waiting, without any consequences for swapping into it.
In any case, does anyone have the details on this change.
Dex was here.  |

fugly contractor
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.07 23:32:00 -
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if you don't know, you don't need to know |

fugly contractor
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.07 23:53:00 -
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bumb till dev posts... no patch notes so i'd like to have some confirmation |

Dex Ironmind
Vorpal's Edge
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Posted - 2011.09.08 00:07:00 -
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fugly contractor wrote:if you don't know, you don't need to know
ROFL. C'mon. You can do better than that?
Post it up.
Dex was here.  |

fugly contractor
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.08 00:09:00 -
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UMAD? Learn mechanics ******. That's the reason you carebears get murdered nonstop in the first place. |

Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Iure Divino
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Posted - 2011.09.08 00:12:00 -
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Griefers are always good at finding new ways to ply their trade. You'll be fine. |

Dex Ironmind
Vorpal's Edge
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Posted - 2011.09.08 00:14:00 -
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fugly contractor wrote:UMAD? Learn mechanics ******. That's the reason you carebears get murdered nonstop in the first place.
You assume too much. I am not mad at all. Merely curious. I can't get into game right now to check for myself.
BTW, I live to bait NINJA's. My corp considers it great sport. We love it when NINJAs bring their ORCA's into belt. That is what we call an escalation!! Even better if they go flashy red now.
Dex was here.  |

fugly contractor
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.08 00:16:00 -
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i already have many other ways to grief, however none of them require as many skillpoints or knowledge. Pretty big waste of time. |

fugly contractor
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.08 00:19:00 -
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Also I think once all the carebears jump ship to that new Star Wars MMO, CCP will realize that the only real dedicated players they have in this game are the ones that enjoy the sandbox/social-engineering aspect of eve. Carebears really only want WoW in space. |

Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.09.08 00:19:00 -
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Denidil wrote:fixes for exploits don't go into patch notes. . This is truth. |

Devious Relation
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.08 00:28:00 -
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I totally agree with OP here, dispite wether ot not the mentioned event is a exploit or not, CCP need to realise people spend years of thier lifes training to do certain things in this game. Buy characters with MT - yes MT!! shock horror!! buy plex, sell for isk buy character.
Like many other games out there CCP should follow thier lead and give a reasonable notice before changing certain aspects of the game as it directly impacts the players. Now not even putting in patch notes that they have made such a change is either a massive oversite, or just blatant incompitance... What if they "forgot" to put it in the patch notes when they changed the bubble physics so they pulled you out of warp and joe bloggs was moving billions upon billions of bpo's in a transport... drag bubble gets them and well they loose thousand ofdollars of virtual items. Would CCP reimburse that loss? Or would thier "logs" not show anything?? Look deep inside, you know the answer!
Now for ccp things like this are a bonus, means poor old joe bloggs has to pump more time and money into thier very very flawed game thus giving them more money and that all important +1 to thier server numbers, which i might add are slooooowwwlly dropping.
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Pharos Pharos
Nephilim Industries
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Posted - 2011.09.08 00:35:00 -
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Sorry, but every edgy 'ninja' like you killing mission runners who don't know game mechanics, there was some elite pvper in lowsec stashing their faction ship in a carrier/orca when it got close to dying on station. So I'm not particularly sympathetic. Not to mention that hotswapping in orcas during combat in highsec was pretty ridiculous anyway - bring a station wherever you want, ignoring combat aggression timers, right?
Your small loss is for sure worth it for the reduction in station games lameness made possible by this change. |

Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2011.09.08 00:36:00 -
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Quote:You've obviously never ninja looted while the missioner is still in the same room with you.
Because losing a frig is ******* hardcore.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |

fugly contractor
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.08 00:40:00 -
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Pharos Pharos wrote:Sorry, but every edgy 'ninja' like you killing mission runners who don't know game mechanics, there was some elite pvper in lowsec stashing their faction ship in a carrier/orca when it got close to dying on station. So I'm not particularly sympathetic. Not to mention that hotswapping in orcas during combat in highsec was pretty ridiculous anyway - bring a station wherever you want, ignoring combat aggression timers, right?
Your small loss is for sure worth it for the reduction in station games lameness made possible by this change. No, the way to fix station game lameness is to make it impossible to dock with agression, WOULDN'T THAT BE SOMETHING and if that were the case, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
Also, you seem to underestimate the kind of preparation and knowledge (and subsequent stupidity on the other persons part) it takes to set up a gank where an ORCA can catch up to a COMBAT SHIP of any kind. |

fugly contractor
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.09.08 00:43:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Quote:You've obviously never ninja looted while the missioner is still in the same room with you. Because losing a frig is ******* hardcore.
No, but killing a battleship with a frigate is, however that is another topic alltogether. |

Pharos Pharos
Nephilim Industries
1
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Posted - 2011.09.08 01:11:00 -
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fugly contractor wrote: Also, you seem to underestimate the kind of preparation and knowledge (and subsequent stupidity on the other persons part) it takes to set up a gank where an ORCA can catch up to a COMBAT SHIP of any kind.
I really don't think I am when you admit that it's the targets lack of knowledge of game mechanics that makes it possible. Furthermore, it's not station games that are the issue, it's docking ships in carriers/orcas specifically to AVOID the aggression timers. (i.e., to not lose a ship when aggressed) I'm fine with aggression timers as they are, this was a method of bypassing them. So sorry, yeah, had to go. |

Crystal Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
14
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Posted - 2011.09.08 01:18:00 -
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omgthisiscrazyomg wrote:So first you give bears ezmode WoW-like incursions to run with almost no chance of griefing. It's basically free isk for anyone with half of a brain. Now all you see in missions is mission-bots which ccp will never do anything about because it's probably 25% of their subs. NOW you break the orca so that we can't swap while being aggressed, and without any patchnotes? I mean come on, NO PATCH NOTES? A simple "oh yea that thing you guys have been doing for years now, trained specific alts for, yea... it no longer works" would've been nice, but we're griefers so i guess we don't get the common courtesy that other players do.
Serious carebear nutthugging going on and I dont like it... Time to suicide every single 5.0 pod that is heading to jita for the next 2 months.
Seriously, this game is getting horrible.
This post doesn't even make sense, changing ships in combat was an unrealistic carebear feature, it was a way of REMOVING risk, now there is more risk, which is obviously why you are crying.
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