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Rakivic
Galactic Express
Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2008.03.20 12:22:00 -
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I was just wondering about this; CCP gave there ships a boost and added exp damage to lasers and they still whine about how crappy they areāāālike what is it with these people nothing ever seems to be good enough for them. I am getting tired of all the whining and moaning by them about how crappy there ships and weapons are almost every day there is a different post about it on the forms some place
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.03.20 12:26:00 -
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They added explosive damage to lasers?
I guess the other two hundred thousand Eve players must have missed that.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Morrow Disca
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.20 12:26:00 -
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I really have no idea. Aside from the issue of trying to break and armor tank in PVP, but then i've always thought that the high base damage for lasers made up for it anyway.
I cross trained for Amarr due to reading the whines and its worked out just fine for me.
Besides, lazers are cool. 
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Rakivic
Galactic Express
Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2008.03.20 12:49:00 -
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Edited by: Rakivic on 20/03/2008 12:49:40
 Originally by: Rodj Blake
They added explosive damage to lasers?
I guess the other two hundred thousand Eve players must have missed that.
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Reed the 2nd line under "Fix crystals"
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.03.20 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Rakivic
Originally by: Rodj Blake
They added explosive damage to lasers?
I guess the other two hundred thousand Eve players must have missed that.
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2nd line under "Fix crystals"
That's in a list of suggestions that they had received. Suggestions that were rejected.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Avalira
Pax Minor Expiscor Pario Addo
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Posted - 2008.03.20 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Rakivic
Edited by: Rakivic on 20/03/2008 12:49:40
Originally by: Rodj Blake
They added explosive damage to lasers?
I guess the other two hundred thousand Eve players must have missed that.
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Reed the 2nd line under "Fix crystals"
Read the line before "Fix Crystals".
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.03.20 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Rakivic
Edited by: Rakivic on 20/03/2008 12:49:40
Originally by: Rodj Blake
They added explosive damage to lasers?
I guess the other two hundred thousand Eve players must have missed that.
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Reed the 2nd line under "Fix crystals"
there are no explosive crystals ingame. thats the ideas they threw around.
and im training amarr atm because of the whine squads. i jut want to prove them wrong how much they suck... few of my m8s did it before me and i can say omg at the dps those ships thorw out and good plate fits they can have
harbinger, zealot, sac, curse, geddon... yarr :D
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Rakivic
Galactic Express
Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2008.03.20 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Avalira
Originally by: Rakivic
Edited by: Rakivic on 20/03/2008 12:49:40
Originally by: Rodj Blake
They added explosive damage to lasers?
I guess the other two hundred thousand Eve players must have missed that.
Linkage
Reed the 2nd line under "Fix crystals"
Read the line before "Fix Crystals".
man talk about egg on yer face
I'm off to get my morning coffie
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Antodias
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.20 13:01:00 -
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I never see any Amarr veteran whining about their ships, most of them are under 3 months old.
The only thing that still (possibly) need looking at are tachyon fittings.
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Rakivic
Galactic Express
Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2008.03.20 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Antodias
I never see any Amarr veteran whining about their ships, most of them are under 3 months old.
The only thing that still (possibly) need looking at are tachyon fittings.
....and that is not all that hard to fix just lessen the PG requirment(s) for them
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.03.20 13:06:00 -
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From what I've heard, the biggest problems with Amarr after this patch are laser fitting requirements and the fact that T1 cruisers and frigates need to be looked at. I don't fly Amarr so I can't say personally though.
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Rakivic
Galactic Express
Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2008.03.20 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
From what I've heard, the biggest problems with Amarr after this patch are laser fitting requirements and the fact that T1 cruisers and frigates need to be looked at. I don't fly Amarr so I can't say personally though.
....yes I am just saying in this thred that people seem to be whining alot about the Amarr
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Raketefrau
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.20 13:36:00 -
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My only remaining Amarr gripe is the one I had before this patch - the Amarr recons are based on NOS/Neut, which has been nerfed pretty drastically for several patches now.
All other races have recons with un-nerfed bonuses. Hell, even the Caldari recon ships have been re-boosted after jamming was nerfed, so why can't Amarr get the same kind of lovin'?
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Deacon Ix
Ascendant Strategies Inc.
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.20 13:40:00 -
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Have Just Cross trained to Amarr and I is Lovin' it
I think that most of the problem is with how ppl fit them
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.03.20 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Raketefrau
My only remaining Amarr gripe is the one I had before this patch - the Amarr recons are based on NOS/Neut, which has been nerfed pretty drastically for several patches now.
All other races have recons with un-nerfed bonuses. Hell, even the Caldari recon ships have been re-boosted after jamming was nerfed, so why can't Amarr get the same kind of lovin'?
Firstly, the nos nerf wasn't as great as some people claim.
Secondly, the recent tracking disruptor boost was in effect a boost to the Arbitrator and its T2 variants.
Thirdly, it's not so long ago that the Arbitrator and its T2 variants benefited from an increase to the size of their drone bays.
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Goumindong
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.20 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Raketefrau
My only remaining Amarr gripe is the one I had before this patch - the Amarr recons are based on NOS/Neut, which has been nerfed pretty drastically for several patches now.
All other races have recons with un-nerfed bonuses. Hell, even the Caldari recon ships have been re-boosted after jamming was nerfed, so why can't Amarr get the same kind of lovin'?
Firstly, the nos nerf wasn't as great as some people claim.
Secondly, the recent tracking disruptor boost was in effect a boost to the Arbitrator and its T2 variants.
Thirdly, it's not so long ago that the Arbitrator and its T2 variants benefited from an increase to the size of their drone bays.
That was neutral, they also lost about 1/3 of their drone DPS.
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.03.20 13:53:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 20/03/2008 13:53:59
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Raketefrau
My only remaining Amarr gripe is the one I had before this patch - the Amarr recons are based on NOS/Neut, which has been nerfed pretty drastically for several patches now.
All other races have recons with un-nerfed bonuses. Hell, even the Caldari recon ships have been re-boosted after jamming was nerfed, so why can't Amarr get the same kind of lovin'?
Firstly, the nos nerf wasn't as great as some people claim.
Secondly, the recent tracking disruptor boost was in effect a boost to the Arbitrator and its T2 variants.
Thirdly, it's not so long ago that the Arbitrator and its T2 variants benefited from an increase to the size of their drone bays.
That was neutral, they also lost about 1/3 of their drone DPS.
Not really, a lot of people used to use five mediums and have five lights in reserve.
Whilst two heavies, two mediums and a light might do more damage on paper, it doesn't always work out like that in space.
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Goumindong
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.20 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Not really, a lot of people used to use five mediums and have five lights in reserve.
Whilst two heavies, two mediums and a light might do more damage on paper, it doesn't always work out like that in space.
Yea, it pretty much does.
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.03.20 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Raketefrau
My only remaining Amarr gripe is the one I had before this patch - the Amarr recons are based on NOS/Neut, which has been nerfed pretty drastically for several patches now.
All other races have recons with un-nerfed bonuses. Hell, even the Caldari recon ships have been re-boosted after jamming was nerfed, so why can't Amarr get the same kind of lovin'?
yes... arazu and lach are ever soo effective now :P
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.03.20 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Raketefrau
My only remaining Amarr gripe is the one I had before this patch - the Amarr recons are based on NOS/Neut, which has been nerfed pretty drastically for several patches now.
All other races have recons with un-nerfed bonuses. Hell, even the Caldari recon ships have been re-boosted after jamming was nerfed, so why can't Amarr get the same kind of lovin'?
Firstly, the nos nerf wasn't as great as some people claim.
Secondly, the recent tracking disruptor boost was in effect a boost to the Arbitrator and its T2 variants.
Thirdly, it's not so long ago that the Arbitrator and its T2 variants benefited from an increase to the size of their drone bays.
That was neutral, they also lost about 1/3 of their drone DPS.
i fought alot of curses and flown in gangs whit curses and so far i ahvent seen one use heavy drones ./
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Paeniteo
Synthetic Frontiers
Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.20 14:04:00 -
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Haven't seen any disproportionate level of whining since the boost tbh, most Amarr seem pretty happy with it.
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Bronson Hughes
Knights of the Wild
Visions of Warfare
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Posted - 2008.03.20 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Paeniteo
Haven't seen any disproportionate level of whining since the boost tbh, most Amarr seem pretty happy with it.
That's because the JoJos have been absent from the forums for a few weeks. Maybe they finally got a perma-ban.
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.20 14:16:00 -
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Edited by: Tzrailasa on 20/03/2008 14:16:56
I fly Amarr ships exclusively, and there's in general nothing wrong with them.
With the boost, the Apoc is one of the most awesome BS in game.
Harbinger has been the best or 2nd best Tier-2 BC since the introduction.
Zealot is good, Sacrilege is very good.
Absolution/Devoter/Guardian are good.
Amarr recons suck!
T1 below the Tier-2 BC suck for all races including Amarr!
The rest of Amarr ships are about average (some worse, some better), which is good enough.
All races have ships that star, and some that don't. Amarr is no different.
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Black Scorpio
Impending Doom Inc.
The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.20 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Raketefrau
My only remaining Amarr gripe is the one I had before this patch - the Amarr recons are based on NOS/Neut, which has been nerfed pretty drastically for several patches now.
All other races have recons with un-nerfed bonuses. Hell, even the Caldari recon ships have been re-boosted after jamming was nerfed, so why can't Amarr get the same kind of lovin'?
Yeah.. we all know how very "unuseful and crappy" the Curse is..  Everyone and their mother used them on the Tournament, not to mention that ingame, unless you have a passive tank you're pretty much screwed if one of those shows in in a small gang and in the hands of a good pilot..
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.03.20 14:45:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 20/03/2008 14:46:26
Cheapmeltageddon.
Oh$41t!ACurse.
PWNcrilege.
OMFGPaladin.
BzzzzzZealot.
HowMuchOptimalOnPulse?Apocalypse.
...shall I go on ?
Really ?
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MACCHES
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.20 14:51:00 -
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Edited by: MACCHES on 20/03/2008 14:52:00
Sick of waiting for those turrets to reload?
Sick of having to restock on ammo?
Sick of your ship not being Golden?
Sick of having nowhere to put all those Cap Recharger IIs?
Then Look No Further
Amarr Empire Recuitment Drive 2008 proudly presents;
4 Obvious reasons why our ships are better than yours! 
(n.b. except frigates, I fly Minmi frigs, rifter-lover-lover)
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Kagura Nikon
Infinity Enterprises
Odyssey.
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Posted - 2008.03.20 15:17:00 -
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Well to be fair amarr still have some suxmobiles. Prophecy for a simple example. But have great battleships and suberb capital ships. I wish matari dread was as good as revelation.
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Pwett
QUANT Corp.
QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.03.20 15:18:00 -
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Where are the ships?
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Spleef
Malevolent Intervention
Reavers.
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Posted - 2008.03.20 15:20:00 -
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I am deviating from a 3 year racial specification for a single reason.
The sheer power of the amarr whine on the forums.
The fact many midslot items have been nerfed to oblivion and only usable on ships with specific bonuses (sometimes not even then) is a minor secondary reason. This means for a character with good armour tanking skills, the more lowslots the better, as excessive midslots increasingly become a liability.
Its a bit of a shame to base skill training based on the volume of forum whine, but it has become too effective to ignore 
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nihlanth
Nut House
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2008.03.20 15:31:00 -
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The reason for all the Amarr whines is because the Amarr ships are very unfriendly to noobs as far as training vs. effectiveness goes. As opposed to caldari, where you only need less than 1m sp in missles to do lvl4 missions, while Amarr needs considerably more training.
The reason why mimnatars dont whine because they are mostly pirate/pvpers who have experience in the game already and dont care about missions as much as gang pvping
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