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SPYDER245
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Posted - 2012.03.02 15:25:00 -
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First, let's make caps/supercaps almost unable to lock and destroy subcap targets. Then, make a cheap subcap ship that can destroy a capital/supercapital.
Why not remove the caps/supercaps altogether ?
If you want a good weapon against a supertank, spend a similar amount of isk and bring your own supercannon. Dont ask for a wooden arrow with a 500 megatones nuke head. |

SPYDER245
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Posted - 2012.03.02 15:35:00 -
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MIrple wrote:Your logic about bring the same ship to kill the same ship is already been counted as dumb. Just because I propose a ship that would make people have to have support ships for there Capital fleets. I am sorry that your I win button is no longer valid.
Hmmmm... when ? I meant same amount of isk. If you want to take down a fleet, bring your own fleet - this was EVE's logic since the invention of T2s. Having a superbomb that can destroy entire fleets of supercaps and their escorts reduces any fight to something like whoever-fires-first-wins. |

SPYDER245
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Posted - 2012.03.02 15:52:00 -
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Please bring down your tone a notch - i am not trying to offend you so please return the favor; we are merely discussing an idea, please try and do it in a mature way.
Now, can anywhere in eve a single ship ( or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 ) take down a ship 2 classes up their size ( obviously, assuming its pilot was experienced enough to know how to fit it properly ) ? I.e. 2-5 frigs taking down a BS or 2-5 cruisers a capital or 2-5 BS a supercap. |

SPYDER245
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:44:00 -
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MIrple wrote:Yes I have seen 3 to 4 frigs take out a BS, and also what you are saying is that Freighters shouldn't be kill able by anything other then BS's? What your saying is flawed in game dynamics. I also stated that the way the ship would work is you would need many of these to kill a Capital not the 3~4 you stated please read all of the forum post before responding with this is OP. I am not trying to attack you but I feel you read the top post and then immediately commented on this tread.
Freighters and industrial ships are non-pvp so they dont get into this discussion.
I admit i am guilty of not readin the entire thread, just the edited first post. Now i have read it all. I have the following comments :
You say one of these ships can fit 2 launchers and both can do 250k damage in one run, so 500k damage for a ship. One decently fitted archon has somewhere between 175k and 200k armor, and at least one tank type under 90%, so one of these bombers can take down one quarter of its armor in one run. 5 ships can destroy it without problems. Maybe with overheating, boosters and gang bonuses a capital could still be standing against 7-8 bombers which are a 50 times cheaper ship.
Also, you argued against using un-nerfed dreads against supers stating that you want "a cheaper ship". Please take in account that a dread is already almost 60-70 times cheaper than a titan.
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