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Bosie
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Posted - 2004.04.13 00:58:00 -
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I am a member of Reikoku but I do not speak for them.
My actions tonight were not actions of RKK but actions of my own. I am am not sorry for what I done as I am sure that PA`s actions were actions of piracy. They deployed a mobile warp disruptor in space they do not claim. As PA has claimed that they do not honour NAPs outside of PA space.
As this disruptor was outside of PA space I decided that it was an act of piracy and destroyed it. I did not destroy any PA ships, (I had a lot to choose from) as I thought this was wrong.
But it seems PA are very upset at my actions. Well PA you can bite me as I will destroy any mobile warp disruptors I see in none PA space untill you revoke your policy of "if it`s not in PA we don't care" attitude. As far as I care you are worse than F-E (who I hold the uptmost honour for). Untill you change your attitude you will be KOS to me. I know this attitude by me will upset my CEO but frankly I don't care as I hold honour to my heart.
So PA; either change your attitude or die at my hands.
Bosie.
moved to Corporation forum-Eris Discordia
http://bosie.proboards40.com/
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Silverlancer
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Posted - 2004.04.13 01:08:00 -
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I have been an innocent bystander in the recent events. I've been hunting a lot in EC-P8R in my Apocalypse, and from what I've heard, PA is really being a *****.
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Galavet
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Posted - 2004.04.13 01:10:00 -
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Speaking on behalf of Reikoku, This matter will be handled internally we respect our NAP's as we ask that you do as well. No further comment from Reikoku concerning this matter will be posted here, This will be handled in game where it belongs.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.04.13 03:05:00 -
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Edited by: Lallante on 13/04/2004 18:51:03
Apologies: I misunderstood.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority -
ShinRa
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.04.13 03:24:00 -
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I got lots of missles and too few targets.....
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.04.13 03:30:00 -
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I got lots of missles and too few targets.....
..and a lot of safespot bookmarks for when a real fight shows up. >_>
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.04.13 03:32:00 -
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I got lots of missles and too few targets.....
..and a lot of safespot bookmarks for when a real fight shows up. >_>
LOL, com'mon you know me better than that. Hey, you never paid me for hauling that trit for you to Oroville. :)
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.04.13 03:35:00 -
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I got lots of missles and too few targets.....
..and a lot of safespot bookmarks for when a real fight shows up. >_>
LOL, com'mon you know me better than that. Hey, you never paid me for hauling that trit for you to Oroville. :)
I can send you 0.1 isk if you'd like for your services.
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.04.13 03:57:00 -
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I'll manage without, somehow.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.04.13 11:36:00 -
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Edited by: Dust Puppy on 13/04/2004 11:36:58
What¦s this "those were my actions not my corps" and "I speak for myself not my corp". Like it or not your actions and voice affects the corp and in the end the corp is responsible to keep it¦s members in check.
I can hardly go on attacking everybody and pirating and expect the reputation for EVE University to stay crispy clean do I?
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.04.13 12:19:00 -
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I am a member of Reikoku but I do not speak for them.
My actions tonight were not actions of RKK but actions of my own. I am am not sorry for what I done as I am sure that PA`s actions were actions of piracy. They deployed a mobile warp disruptor in space they do not claim. As PA has claimed that they do not honour NAPs outside of PA space.
As this disruptor was outside of PA space I decided that it was an act of piracy and destroyed it. I did not destroy any PA ships, (I had a lot to choose from) as I thought this was wrong.
But it seems PA are very upset at my actions. Well PA you can bite me as I will destroy any mobile warp disruptors I see in none PA space untill you revoke your policy of "if it`s not in PA we don't care" attitude. As far as I care you are worse than F-E (who I hold the uptmost honour for). Untill you change your attitude you will be KOS to me. I know this attitude by me will upset my CEO but frankly I don't care as I hold honour to my heart.
So PA; either change your attitude or die at my hands.
Bosie.
Bosie Did you see the 21st guys kill any non pirates. Or did they just have the disruptor setup trying to catch some pirates.
Because i know when we did it all the locals there were happy to see us helping to protect them.
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.04.13 12:29:00 -
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Edited by: Artegg on 13/04/2004 12:57:23
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CA have been affected by PA piracy as well, and when the said pirates Dominix was podded they had the AUDACITY to demand 100mill in compensation.
The corp in question is currently threatening the whole CA with a PA war (no idea if they could actually initiate this)? Any PA comment before I suggest to the Council that we gear up and martial the fleets?
The PA corp in question is Cyberdine Industries, who are now at war with the CA corp Section XIII.
I will advocate Action should PA not sort this out and have Cyberdine retract their war. They are losing anyway, but we want a clear NAP or war, not half and half.
note: I speak for myself only.
Lallante, this is what i think happened from the section XIII and CDI war. CDI were attacked by a member of Section XIII when they were mining and this cost them a ship or 2 so they declared war. CDI then activly hunting Section XIII all over EVE. This war had now ended...
So Lallante before you start accusing the PA of Piracy may be you should take a quick look at the member corps of the CA conduct themselfs around empire space before mouthing off on the forums.
Edited after i found out what i first posted was not 100% correct
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Koval
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Posted - 2004.04.13 16:16:00 -
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I am a member of Reikoku but I do not speak for them.
My actions tonight were not actions of RKK but actions of my own. I am am not sorry for what I done as I am sure that PA`s actions were actions of piracyBosie.
I've never been a pirate, and i don't care who are you calling pirates, touch my warp disruptor or anyone of TWB and you will be kos, not RKK that i respect, just you mr "i am not sorry".
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.04.13 17:06:00 -
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Edited by: Lallante on 13/04/2004 18:53:13
Lall - THE Vocal Minority -
ShinRa
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Lord ofRedemption
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Posted - 2004.04.13 17:29:00 -
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Edited by: Tankuk on 13/04/2004 17:31:25
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Retirement closing in .
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Halseth
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Posted - 2004.04.13 18:14:00 -
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At this time, both of these issues have been resolved as unfortunate misunderstandings.
On a personal note, I would like to make a few observations:
Kudos to Cyberdyne and section XIII for being able to wage war that they knew was for personal differences WITHOUT dragging their respective alliances into it. No forum slag fests, no forum bragging and no requests for alliance help (no CDI request to the PA council. Not sure about section XIII). They fought a war that they knew was only between them. Period.
The Phoenix Alliance relies heavily on Pure Blind for travel between Empire space and Venal. If at any time you see PA military operations in Pure Blind, IT IS AN ANTI-PIRATE OPERATION. The PA values our friends in RKK and appreciates thier efforts in Pure Blind as comrades in arms against piracy.
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Xavier Perez
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Posted - 2004.04.13 18:16:00 -
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Cant we find something better t argue about than one hothead waving his pecker around? It's getting me all hot and bothered ;p
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.04.13 18:25:00 -
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Edited by: Lallante on 13/04/2004 18:52:15
misunderstanding.
It still disturbs me that a PA corp is at war with a CA one and we would like the matter resolved.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority -
ShinRa
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Erys
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Posted - 2004.04.13 18:45:00 -
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Now i see where is the misunderstanding now.
I think this has mostly to do with the language barrier as english is not well spoken within S13. For that, we are the one who should apologize for any misunderstanding
At one point or another BOTH CDI and SXIII have asked the other side financial compensation for their loss prior to an ending of the war. It has never been said, on either side, that failure to pay, would open a path to a CA/PA war.
Such has never been the purpose of this war, fought for purely corp Vs corp reasons.
Anyone willing more input about this has but to contact either Archange(SXIII), Erys(SXIII) or The Clash (CDI) (havent asked him but he has always been an honourable foe and i guess he wont mind giving out few explanations about the CDI pov.).
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Erys
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Posted - 2004.04.13 19:01:00 -
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Edited by: Lallante on 13/04/2004 18:52:15
misunderstanding.
It still disturbs me that a PA corp is at war with a CA one and we would like the matter resolved.
Working on it Lallante. Working on it 
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Erys
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Posted - 2004.04.13 19:32:00 -
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An end to the war has been found. The war started due to an attack from SXIII on a CDI Battleship. The war is now ending. Due to a recent increase in new eve player recruitment from Section XIII, we (SXIII) have asked for an end of the hostilities so that we would have time to train our newbies and make them at home in Eve. CDI has graciously agreed to this. From now on the war is over.
Now to the piracy subject. Some CDI players have been seen deep within Curse space. There was no piracy but only an eagerness from new eve players to take part on the war. That eagerness took them within CA space with no ill intentions but to wage war on SXIII and SXIII only. That move wasnÆt intended as an aggressive stance from PA toward CA.
We hope that straighten things out. This statement has been reviewed both by XIII directors Archange and Erys and CDI negociator The Clash. It is binding to both corporations.
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Kronarty
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Posted - 2004.04.13 19:39:00 -
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As PA has claimed that they do not honour NAPs outside of PA space.
PA honors all NAP's.
PA has had only ONE NAP for a long long time, that NAP has been respected by both sides.
TWO more NAPS have been signed this past weekend (4/11 and 4/12) and are being respected.
Can you please point me towards a NAP that has not been respected by PA?
Thank you.
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Landmass
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Posted - 2004.04.13 20:01:00 -
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LOL I'm sure those curse hotheads can point you to all kinds of imaginary naps you've broken, puppies you've kicked, and kittens you've twisted :P They're just looking for more excuses to conquer the world.
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Kronarty
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Posted - 2004.04.13 20:06:00 -
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LOL I'm sure those curse hotheads can point you to all kinds of imaginary naps you've broken, puppies you've kicked, and kittens you've twisted :P They're just looking for more excuses to conquer the world.
I am not replying to any Curse Alliance member, but to Bosie, Reikoku pilot.
I haven't seen any CA member accuse PA of breaking NAP's.
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.04.13 20:16:00 -
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If PA or anyone else intends to police Pure Blind against pirates, count me in. Please eve mail me and I would be HAPPY to assist in any way I can.
- N -
(I can already feel Toastmaster laughing and typing up an email... I so hate pirates...)
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse
Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Machiavelli7
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Posted - 2004.04.14 12:09:00 -
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Reikoku are no better than pirates anyway.
Your behaviour and attitude towards my corp over the past few days exemplifies this.
The more you commit actions such as this, the more your reputation is sullied.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.04.14 12:29:00 -
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Reikoku are no better than pirates anyway.
Your behaviour and attitude towards my corp over the past few days exemplifies this.
The more you commit actions such as this, the more your reputation is sullied.
Don't be silly Machiavelli. RKK and JF took steps against your corporation after one of your members boasted that he was working for the Jokers in Pureblind/Fade. We had a very long discussion about this at the time and I think its disingenuous and indeed deceitful for you to weigh in on this discussion with such a spurious slur given your own corpmate's less than sterling reputation in this instance.
I think you should apologise.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.04.14 12:35:00 -
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Come on PA, fight the CA, u know u want to:)...
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.04.14 12:39:00 -
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Reikoku are no better than pirates anyway.
Your behaviour and attitude towards my corp over the past few days exemplifies this.
The more you commit actions such as this, the more your reputation is sullied.
I'm glad you brought this up actually.
Let me refresh your memory as to why you are KOS to RKK.
[ 2004.04.11 21:40:40 ] Kaldrak > Hi DB..
[ 2004.04.11 21:40:45 ] DB Preacher > hello
[ 2004.04.11 21:40:49 ] DB Preacher > Why are you here?
[ 2004.04.11 21:41:01 ] Kaldrak > We are on a mission for Jokers.
[ 2004.04.11 21:41:06 ] DB Preacher > you what?
[ 2004.04.11 21:41:12 ] Kaldrak > Speak to Jexter..
[ 2004.04.11 21:41:17 ] DB Preacher > err no i'm speaking to you
[ 2004.04.11 21:41:40 ] DB Preacher > You are now KOS to RKK
[ 2004.04.11 21:41:56 ] Kaldrak > We have an Op with Jexter...
If you work directly with pirates you will be KOS.
The more RKK commits actions like the one against your corp, the more our reputation grows.
Don't deceive yourself into believing you were in the right.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.04.14 12:43:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 14/04/2004 13:03:32
Keeping to the initial thread, this has been resolved fully between Bosie and the PA I believe.
Note to bosie: Next time you want to get blind drunk, go attack our enemies not our allies.
And definitely don't post about it in the bloody forums! 
Otherwise, this thread may as well be locked, unless any of the PA involved have any further problems. In which please give RKK CEO Galavet or RKK Diplomatic Relations Lion El'Johnson an evemail.
thx
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Machiavelli7
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Posted - 2004.04.14 15:04:00 -
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Don't be silly Machiavelli. RKK and JF took steps against your corporation after one of your members boasted that he was working for the Jokers in Pureblind/Fade. We had a very long discussion about this at the time and I think its disingenuous and indeed deceitful for you to weigh in on this discussion with such a spurious slur given your own corpmate's less than sterling reputation in this instance.
I think you should apologise.
And for such a well-established character of flippance, i'm surprised at your seriousness. 
However, i've been trying and failing to rationalise JF's policy of not recognising alliance claims of ownership of systems, with your own behaviour in this affair. 'Tis a shame as TTC share a similar policy objective to yourselves. And no, i will certainly not apologise to pirates such as RKK. Yet, as far as JF is concerned, i think it was a small case of crossed wires, and in any event.. i am mere putty in your hands, o mistress 
However, quite agree that this thread ain't the place for such a discussion. |
DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.04.14 15:18:00 -
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Don't be silly Machiavelli. RKK and JF took steps against your corporation after one of your members boasted that he was working for the Jokers in Pureblind/Fade. We had a very long discussion about this at the time and I think its disingenuous and indeed deceitful for you to weigh in on this discussion with such a spurious slur given your own corpmate's less than sterling reputation in this instance.
I think you should apologise.
And for such a well-established character of flippance, i'm surprised at your seriousness.
However, i've been trying and failing to rationalise JF's policy of not recognising alliance claims of ownership of systems, with your own behaviour in this affair. 'Tis a shame as TTC share a similar policy objective to yourselves. And no, i will certainly not apologise to pirates such as RKK. Yet, as far as JF is concerned, i think it was a small case of crossed wires, and in any event.. i am mere putty in your hands, o mistress
However, quite agree that this thread ain't the place for such a discussion.
This affair had nothing to do with a regional alliance and everything to do with you working for pirates.
How dare you call RKK pirates after your actions.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2004.04.14 15:33:00 -
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However, i've been trying and failing to rationalise JF's policy of not recognising alliance claims of ownership of systems, with your own behaviour in this affair. 'Tis a shame as TTC share a similar policy objective to yourselves. And no, i will certainly not apologise to pirates such as RKK. Yet, as far as JF is concerned, i think it was a small case of crossed wires, and in any event.. i am mere putty in your hands, o mistress
/emote helps hijack the thread
Jericho does not recognize ownership of systems. Which also has absolutely nothing to do with this. Tell me if I'm wrong, but isn't there something weird going on when a self-labeled anti-pirate corporation pays their very enemies (pirates, in this case the Jokers) to be allowed to mine?
And then you have the stumach to think of Reikoku (and, I suspect, myself) as pirates? You guys funded a pirate outfit. One of your guys claimed to work for them. You get attacked for supporting a dangerous pirate outfit, and then you name us pirates for it. Lovely.
It had, however, been fairly well discussed between Jade, Talon and I after you had left the conversation, I thought. Let's not make this more than it has to be, shall we? It did seem like you guys had honest, albeit misguided, intentions. We should hug, eat something with lots of sugar and hold hands while singing "Kum-bah-yah". Or something.
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Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.04.14 15:34:00 -
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LOL I'm sure those curse hotheads can point you to all kinds of imaginary naps you've broken, puppies you've kicked, and kittens you've twisted :P They're just looking for more excuses to conquer the world.
I am not replying to any Curse Alliance member, but to Bosie, Reikoku pilot.
I haven't seen any CA member accuse PA of breaking NAP's.
Well, let me be the first  .
For Breaking the many NAP's you've employed throughout your existance, kicking kittens, and twisting puppies, your Alliance shall end! War upon thee! Nay! HOLY WAR FOR THE OLD EMPEROR OF CURSE!! (xirtam  )
The Flames of Vengance shalll Burn accross Venal, Pure Blind and Tenal! None shall be lefted unganked! You've gone to far PA!... Rawr!
(and yes, for anyone with no sense of humour, that was indeed a joke... Scumbag Alts.)
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Come on PA, fight the CA, u know u want to:)...
What solo, can't handle us yourself? Tsk Tsk.
** Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member **
http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg
Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley.
The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence!
Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is.
Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing!
Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |
Halseth
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Posted - 2004.04.14 15:47:00 -
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Don't forget our relentless verbal abuse of houseplants. That should be enough for complete and total jihad. |
wayz
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Posted - 2004.04.14 15:50:00 -
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I was going to post an really detailed surgical autopsy of PA's recent actions ect as a kind of neutral bystander but then I realised its almost time for work and I still havnt woke up properly yet so....... nm
I have heard a few people complain of being fired on by PA though who wernt pirates. nuff said, dont ask me for names or anything it was quite a bit ago and I'm still half asleep, try asking in alliance channels if you wanna do some research.
Would also be good for PA as an alliance to look into as well and were nessecary maybe clean up house
Wayz: cmon X hurry up I aint got all day!
Twisted Xistance: oh yeah lol.... anyway, you have got all day you benefit scrounging jobbless schmoe!
Wayz: too chey :) |
Jexter
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Posted - 2004.04.14 15:53:00 -
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[ 2004.04.11 21:40:40 ] Kaldrak > Hi DB..
[ 2004.04.11 21:40:45 ] DB Preacher > hello
[ 2004.04.11 21:40:49 ] DB Preacher > Why are you here?
[ 2004.04.11 21:41:01 ] Kaldrak > We are on a mission for Jokers.
[ 2004.04.11 21:41:06 ] DB Preacher > you what?
[ 2004.04.11 21:41:12 ] Kaldrak > Speak to Jexter..
[ 2004.04.11 21:41:17 ] DB Preacher > err no i'm speaking to you
[ 2004.04.11 21:41:40 ] DB Preacher > You are now KOS to RKK
[ 2004.04.11 21:41:56 ] Kaldrak > We have an Op with Jexter...
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TMX
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Posted - 2004.04.14 15:59:00 -
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Come on PA, fight the CA, u know u want to:)...
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Kronarty
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Posted - 2004.04.14 17:06:00 -
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Edited by: Kronarty on 14/04/2004 17:10:43
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LOL I'm sure those curse hotheads can point you to all kinds of imaginary naps you've broken, puppies you've kicked, and kittens you've twisted :P They're just looking for more excuses to conquer the world.
I am not replying to any Curse Alliance member, but to Bosie, Reikoku pilot.
I haven't seen any CA member accuse PA of breaking NAP's.
Well, let me be the first .
For Breaking the many NAP's you've employed throughout your existance, kicking kittens, and twisting puppies, your Alliance shall end! War upon thee! Nay! HOLY WAR FOR THE OLD EMPEROR OF CURSE!! (xirtam )
The Flames of Vengance shalll Burn accross Venal, Pure Blind and Tenal! None shall be lefted unganked! You've gone to far PA!... Rawr!
(and yes, for anyone with no sense of humour, that was indeed a joke... Scumbag Alts.)
I knew we should have stopped before the puppy twisting started...
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Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.04.14 21:39:00 -
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Don't forget our relentless verbal abuse of houseplants. That should be enough for complete and total jihad.
, you've gone to far Halseth! 
** Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member **
http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg
Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley.
The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence!
Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is.
Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing!
Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |
ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.04.14 22:03:00 -
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Come on PA, fight the CA, u know u want to:)...
Fought both.
CA would win. (As much as it pains me to say anything remotely nice about CA )
Not saying PA has no decent fighters, but Curse seems to be much more organized in PVP situations.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Pogy Bait
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Posted - 2004.04.14 23:25:00 -
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Come on PA, fight the CA, u know u want to:)...
Fought both.
CA would win. (As much as it pains me to say anything remotely nice about CA )
Not saying PA has no decent fighters, but Curse seems to be much more organized in PVP situations.
Anytime CA gets mentioned some Evol guys has to come in and say something nice about us! That's it, I'm calling you out! Noob frigates at 25km!
Sorry, long day at work =\
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.04.15 05:10:00 -
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Anytime CA gets mentioned some Evol guys has to come in and say something nice about us! That's it, I'm calling you out! Noob frigates at 25km!
Sorry, long day at work =\
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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The Clash
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Posted - 2004.04.15 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: The Clash on 15/04/2004 22:26:12
Note : some CA say we were acting up to piracy in CA space . Wrong , as Section XIII ( CA Member ) declared we were not , and i dont and never used this in peacetalks with them , but yes , there are CA peeps sighted IN Venal region even before our war , so stop complaining .
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Bosie
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Posted - 2004.04.15 22:48:00 -
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Please lock this topic.
Bosie.
http://bosie.proboards40.com/
http://zeroimpact.co.uk/evemap
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