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ISpam
OHHAYGUYS
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Posted - 2008.03.21 23:35:00 -
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wtf is up with ka tet there losing members like flys lay eggs in dead animals
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Oofig VanDoogan
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.21 23:36:00 -
[2]
That has to be just about the worst analogy of all time
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.21 23:36:00 -
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i was just about to say the same thing oofig
I need isk. Give it to meh
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Adirawin
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.21 23:37:00 -
[4]
I already said the same thing many a year ago
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Martin Mckenna
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.21 23:38:00 -
[5]
 Originally by: ISpam
losing members like flys lay eggs in dead animals
k...
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Alski
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Posted - 2008.03.21 23:56:00 -
[6]
Stop posting.
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Funkcikle
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Posted - 2008.03.21 23:56:00 -
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well.. i mean the flys arn't really losing the eggs are they ?
there putting them in there on purpose. If u were to ask the fly ( ignoring for a monment the sillyness of the idea of talking to a fly)
" Hey Jeff, wheres your eggs m8 ?"
He would no doubt be able to point, with some certainty , to the dead animal.
If however, u were to say to ka-tet " Hey Ka-tet , where the hells all your members gone ?" you'd get nothing.. not even a blank expresion, hell by the time u finsied the question, they eould have left, you would be on your own.
Might as well talk to flys
either way, crap metaphore, try harder
I't not difficult, all that rubbish I just typed.. work of moments m8, I haven't even had a drink yet
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ISpam
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Posted - 2008.03.21 23:58:00 -
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just answer the question -_- ive noticed a large number of corps leaving ka tet
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Mah Bess
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Posted - 2008.03.21 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: ISpam
just answer the question -_-
we did, the answer is yes, you should stop posting
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James Grand
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Posted - 2008.03.22 00:02:00 -
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How hard is it for the mods to figure out that someone named ISpam needs to be banned 
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Zathi Shaitan
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Posted - 2008.03.22 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Funkcikle
either way, crap metaphore
Almost as bad as your spelling.
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ISpam
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Posted - 2008.03.22 00:44:00 -
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Edited by: ISpam on 22/03/2008 00:44:00
no guys im really not trying to troll this time. i have a vested interest in ka tet
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Seragon
VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2008.03.22 00:53:00 -
[13]
Edited by: Seragon on 22/03/2008 00:53:46
Originally by: ISpam
Edited by: ISpam on 22/03/2008 00:44:00
no guys im really not trying to troll this time. i have a vested interest in ka tet
I think the trolling is supposed to be over here:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=729520
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Arron S
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2008.03.22 00:58:00 -
[14]
ALT POST SOMONE BANN HIM
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Arron S
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Posted - 2008.03.22 01:06:00 -
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BIG is in a Big Snit because we got sick and tired of giving them Vaseline so that they could get them selves out the docking ports on the stations. t.DK are back stabbers, and decided to start shooting K-Vec, another corp in the alliance, in the middle of the war, and since the leader of the Alliance never logged on, they got away with it.
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Funkcikle
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Posted - 2008.03.22 01:14:00 -
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Eye Fink u will Fyind nothing is werse thann my speling Sir
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Jim Lovell
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Posted - 2008.03.22 01:18:00 -
[17]
hehe this thread make me loll :)
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Trent Nichols
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Posted - 2008.03.22 03:50:00 -
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That analogy doesn't really make sense. If you want insects it would be better to go with fleas abandoning a dead dog or something.
That was really all I have to add.
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richard06
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Posted - 2008.03.22 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Lovell
hehe this thread make me loll :)
so kinda lig getting ur wyvren stolen an tyraxx had a hand in it also how about u getting booted from umbra then joining genco. y the hell would u stay with IAC after one of them jacked ur mom |
dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.22 04:29:00 -
[20]
there is a bit of Ka tet in us all
I need isk. Give it to meh
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Phrixus Zephyr
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Posted - 2008.03.22 05:33:00 -
[21]
Heres an idea. Why don't you find out THEN start the thread, and we call smack talk each other about.
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Porgy
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.22 06:39:00 -
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Originally by: Zathi Shaitan
Almost as bad as your spelling.
I think you spelled your name wrong
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eldiabloroho
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Posted - 2008.03.22 09:01:00 -
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Heres the best answer, theres not enough rare moons to pay for pos fuel for all the outposts they built. No bounty rats so corps get no tax so they all eventually bankrupt and have to leave drone space.
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shivan
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.22 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: ISpam
Edited by: ISpam on 22/03/2008 00:44:00
no guys im really not trying to troll this time. i have a vested interest in ka tet
Well post with your main and I'll give you an anwer. I might not be in ka-tet but that doesn't mean that I don't know whats going on!
Double negatives 4tmfw!
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Reacz
Empirius Enigmus Navy
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.22 13:50:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Oofig VanDoogan
That has to be just about the worst analogy of all time
You Sir forgot your party piece.
How very dare you. :P
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.03.22 16:04:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Oofig VanDoogan
That has to be just about the worst analogy of all time
It was a terrible simile, not a terrible analogy.
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The Scarred
Hedion University
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Posted - 2008.03.22 19:00:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Funkcikle
well.. i mean the flys arn't really losing the eggs are they ?
there putting them in there on purpose. If u were to ask the fly ( ignoring for a monment the sillyness of the idea of talking to a fly)
" Hey Jeff, wheres your eggs m8 ?"
He would no doubt be able to point, with some certainty , to the dead animal.
If however, u were to say to ka-tet " Hey Ka-tet , where the hells all your members gone ?" you'd get nothing.. not even a blank expresion, hell by the time u finsied the question, they eould have left, you would be on your own.
Might as well talk to flys
either way, crap metaphore, try harder
I't not difficult, all that rubbish I just typed.. work of moments m8, I haven't even had a drink yet
you are almost as bad tbh, HE is laying EGGS? unless he is some sort of transexual fly thats gonna hurt.
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Graalum
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.22 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Oofig VanDoogan
That has to be just about the worst analogy of all time
It was a terrible simile, not a terrible analogy.
leave oofig alone[/meme]
he was probably drunk, and noone really cares about your semantics anyways.
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Funkcikle
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Posted - 2008.03.22 19:50:00 -
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well i kinda typed my way down a blind ally there, by the time I had reached the egglaying part, I had already called the fly jeff ( as in jeff Goldbloom, as in "The fly" ) so I was pretty much stuck with a male fly by then.
Had I noticed, I would have hoped you wouldn't have noticed, but I didn't, and of course you did.
And that's why proof-reading is so very important.
There might be some sort of male fly that lays eggs though, or something, I'll google it, I bet the internet knows.
tell you what, whilst your waiting, why don't you talk about ka-tet losing members like flys laying eggs on a de.. oh ahh no wait weve been here already havn't we.
just talk amongst yourselves
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Valgren
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.03.23 21:59:00 -
[30]
Edited by: Valgren on 23/03/2008 22:01:49
Ok, from someone who was a director of one of the ka-tet founding corps, I can tell you why a lot of people (myself included) left...
We formed ka-tet with the idea that it would be a small number of large corps. Everything would be equal among the member corps as far as the running of the alliance. Everything went well at first, but then we started losing our pvp base because we had nap'd everyone and their brother and we had to go 30 jumps to find a fight. The idea that it has anything to do with money is rediculous...there are tons of good moons out there, and although the drones don't have bounties, they have other things that smart people can take advantage of and make a lot of money. Look at the billions of isk in ship losses on the ka-tet KB, and the way they continue to throw ships away. Production capabilities out there are unmatched. But I digress.
Back to the topic at hand...once the pvp'ers started leaving, it caused a large shift in power within both Rampage Eternal and Untaught. They basically split into seperate groups, with a large number of senior members leaving because of lack of pvp. We had similar problems in AWM, but not nearly on the level as RAM and T.DK. The higher ups leaving were replaced by people who were not holding true to the ideals that we had when forming ka-tet...it eventually downgraded to where it is now, which is basically a smaller ASCN. Lots of isk and production capability, but mostly carebear and a weird conglomerate of crappy little corps...and I forsee them going down like ASCN.
Come to think of it...most of this downward slide started happening when a number of ASCN refugee corps showed up on our doorstep and we took them in as renter/residents....hmmm...
But, as far as corps/people leaving now, it's like with any other KOS-esque alliance...corps are going to come and go on a pretty steady basis, mainly people thinking it's going to be grand and finding out that they would be better off running lvl3 missions for Nurtura than being in ka-tet, and leave.
Ka-tet was never supposed to have more than 4 member corps according to our original charter. We should have just kept our blue to RA and set everyone else neutral...I can only dream of what things would be like now if we had held true to that.
Valgren
Former Director of Armed War Monkeys(AWM), co-founding corp of Ka-tet
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.23 23:27:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Valgren
Edited by: Valgren on 23/03/2008 22:01:49
Ok, from someone who was a director of one of the ka-tet founding corps, I can tell you why a lot of people (myself included) left...
We formed ka-tet with the idea that it would be a small number of large corps. Everything would be equal among the member corps as far as the running of the alliance. Everything went well at first, but then we started losing our pvp base because we had nap'd everyone and their brother and we had to go 30 jumps to find a fight. The idea that it has anything to do with money is rediculous...there are tons of good moons out there, and although the drones don't have bounties, they have other things that smart people can take advantage of and make a lot of money. Look at the billions of isk in ship losses on the ka-tet KB, and the way they continue to throw ships away. Production capabilities out there are unmatched. But I digress.
Back to the topic at hand...once the pvp'ers started leaving, it caused a large shift in power within both Rampage Eternal and Untaught. They basically split into seperate groups, with a large number of senior members leaving because of lack of pvp. We had similar problems in AWM, but not nearly on the level as RAM and T.DK. The higher ups leaving were replaced by people who were not holding true to the ideals that we had when forming ka-tet...it eventually downgraded to where it is now, which is basically a smaller ASCN. Lots of isk and production capability, but mostly carebear and a weird conglomerate of crappy little corps...and I forsee them going down like ASCN.
Come to think of it...most of this downward slide started happening when a number of ASCN refugee corps showed up on our doorstep and we took them in as renter/residents....hmmm...
But, as far as corps/people leaving now, it's like with any other KOS-esque alliance...corps are going to come and go on a pretty steady basis, mainly people thinking it's going to be grand and finding out that they would be better off running lvl3 missions for Nurtura than being in ka-tet, and leave.
Ka-tet was never supposed to have more than 4 member corps according to our original charter. We should have just kept our blue to RA and set everyone else neutral...I can only dream of what things would be like now if we had held true to that.
Valgren
Former Director of Armed War Monkeys(AWM), co-founding corp of Ka-tet
AWM left Ka-Tet a couple of weeks back. Ka-Tet have been at war with first FREGE, then DMC, then Atlas + Chaos for many months now, for much neighbour-shootage.
I'm not all that convinced that a lack of PvP opportunities is the source of all of Ka-Tet's recent woes.
Unless you're saying that the damage was done a long long long way back, and that Ka-Tet has been a non-functional shell for all that time.
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Ademius Knortak
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.23 23:42:00 -
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Edited by: Ademius Knortak on 23/03/2008 23:45:45
Edited by: Ademius Knortak on 23/03/2008 23:42:23
Originally by: Patch86
Unless you're saying that the damage was done a long long long way back, and that Ka-Tet has been a non-functional shell for all that time.
the damage was done a long way back yea... a lot of the old pvpers left more then 6 month ago and those that remained left with their corps now.
More or less started with the napping of DMC and the rest of the mad pact 
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Valgren
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.03.24 00:11:00 -
[33]
I know I was a bit long-winded Patch, but you should read my entire post before responding. Unless you just fail at reading comprehension.
Val
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ISpam
OHHAYGUYS
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Posted - 2008.03.24 01:23:00 -
[34]
ty val no wonder my mains old corp left em then
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PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
MASS
Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.03.24 17:24:00 -
[35]
Edited by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik on 24/03/2008 17:27:38
Edited by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik on 24/03/2008 17:26:49
Originally by: Patch86
Unless you're saying that the damage was done a long long long way back, and that Ka-Tet has been a non-functional shell for all that time.
The damage began with ds1 joining and our terribly run campaign in feyth, helping out the rsf very early in the war, perhaps nearly 2 years ago. That was what broke up MASS/RAM and Untaught/TDK.
While alot of pvpers left at that point, there was still a very large, capable contingent who stayed true to the ideals of ka-tet. This memberbase slowly eroded from lack of pvp apart from brief stints that occurred such as fighting Mpire in Branch, Frege etc, but these were not enough to hold a core pvp base. By this stage other corps had joined which had diluted the pvp/carebear percentages to the point where perhaps only 20-30% of the playerbase were actively participating in pvp.
By the time the DMC war happened ka-tet was well and truely slide into carebear hell. The balance of power in the COS had shifted to a more industrial focus as well, and before long it got to the point where a general reset was out of the question. It was only a matter of time before the final diehards exhausted themselves defending self interested *******s.
Originally by: "Val"
I can only dream of what things would be like now if we had held true to that.
A-*******-men
EDIT: After rereading I should point out that simply pointing the finger at the non-founding corps as the problem would be somewhat inaccurate. Internally the three founding corps also suffered heavy setbacks and participation issues.
Peace WithinSo if the theory of relativity is true, shouldn't i arrive at my destination before i warped in the first place?
Neon GhostYou do, but this is compensated for by lag |
Mr Funkadelic
Tenacious Danes
Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.03.24 18:46:00 -
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ka-tet and pvp died like 10 months ago, everyone just stoped pvping, and pvpers startet to leave. Nothing more to it really.
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Cruel SOAB
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.24 19:45:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Valgren
I know I was a bit long-winded Patch, but you should read my entire post before responding. Unless you just fail at reading comprehension.
Val
Why don't you just counter Patch's theories instead of questioning his reading comprehension skills? Seems to me he made a very decent analysis of the situation.
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Gort
Storm Guard Elite
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Posted - 2008.03.24 19:57:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Valgren
Edited by: Valgren on 23/03/2008 22:01:49
Ok, from someone who was a director of one of the ka-tet founding corps, I can tell you why a lot of people (myself included) left...
We formed ka-tet with the idea that it would be a small number of large corps. Everything would be equal among the member corps as far as the running of the alliance. Everything went well at first, but then we started losing our pvp base because we had nap'd everyone and their brother and we had to go 30 jumps to find a fight. The idea that it has anything to do with money is rediculous...there are tons of good moons out there, and although the drones don't have bounties, they have other things that smart people can take advantage of and make a lot of money. Look at the billions of isk in ship losses on the ka-tet KB, and the way they continue to throw ships away. Production capabilities out there are unmatched. But I digress.
Back to the topic at hand...once the pvp'ers started leaving, it caused a large shift in power within both Rampage Eternal and Untaught. They basically split into seperate groups, with a large number of senior members leaving because of lack of pvp. We had similar problems in AWM, but not nearly on the level as RAM and T.DK. The higher ups leaving were replaced by people who were not holding true to the ideals that we had when forming ka-tet...it eventually downgraded to where it is now, which is basically a smaller ASCN. Lots of isk and production capability, but mostly carebear and a weird conglomerate of crappy little corps...and I forsee them going down like ASCN.
Come to think of it...most of this downward slide started happening when a number of ASCN refugee corps showed up on our doorstep and we took them in as renter/residents....hmmm...
But, as far as corps/people leaving now, it's like with any other KOS-esque alliance...corps are going to come and go on a pretty steady basis, mainly people thinking it's going to be grand and finding out that they would be better off running lvl3 missions for Nurtura than being in ka-tet, and leave.
Ka-tet was never supposed to have more than 4 member corps according to our original charter. We should have just kept our blue to RA and set everyone else neutral...I can only dream of what things would be like now if we had held true to that.
Valgren
Former Director of Armed War Monkeys(AWM), co-founding corp of Ka-tet
This man speaks truth.
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Chomapuraku
Templar Republic
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.24 20:27:00 -
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so basically, Ka-tet caught the FREGE virus (the very same one they had given to KOS) and died, and the members turned into fly eggs leaving the rotting carc...
goddammmit, your ****ty analogy totally ****** up my attempt to blow up this thread. anyways, best analogy i can think of is the oregon highway department's 1979 attempt to blow up a rotting whale carcass that had beached. chunks of stinking whale blubber rain on all the idiots that come by to watch
anyways, if you would just PWYM, these things wouldn't happen
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Tanx0r
Stinger Squad
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Posted - 2008.03.24 20:52:00 -
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There was no unity within the executor corp (rampage) from the start. Oh those endless lol convos on teamspeak... Drop a bunch of serious industrials with a group of heavyweight pvp veterans in the drone regions for a couple of weeks under one flag and you get uber fragtastic levels of total boredom on one side (and no they won't jump into bloody haulers and 'help'). At first there was some LV to hunt down but that was soon history as well.
I learned a lot while there though. About the human side of things that is. Shame to see it all falling apart. I was one of the first to leave 
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Scrapple
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.25 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Chomapuraku
so basically, Ka-tet caught the FREGE virus (the very same one they had given to KOS) and died, and the members turned into fly eggs leaving the rotting carc...
goddammmit, your ****ty analogy totally ****** up my attempt to blow up this thread. anyways, best analogy i can think of is the oregon highway department's 1979 attempt to blow up a rotting whale carcass that had beached. chunks of stinking whale blubber rain on all the idiots that come by to watch
anyways, if you would just PWYM, these things wouldn't happen
Rednecks with Dynimate and large carcasses.
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Kylegar
Dawn of Fire
Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.03.25 00:33:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Scrapple
Originally by: Chomapuraku
so basically, Ka-tet caught the FREGE virus (the very same one they had given to KOS) and died, and the members turned into fly eggs leaving the rotting carc...
goddammmit, your ****ty analogy totally ****** up my attempt to blow up this thread. anyways, best analogy i can think of is the oregon highway department's 1979 attempt to blow up a rotting whale carcass that had beached. chunks of stinking whale blubber rain on all the idiots that come by to watch
anyways, if you would just PWYM, these things wouldn't happen
Rednecks with Dynimate and large carcasses.
Hey, We dont have rednecks here in Oregon, we just have idiots...Lots and lots of idiots.
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No sex changes.
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 04:43:00 -
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ibtl
Zombie Apocalypse Guitar-Wielding Superteam |
Oofig VanDoogan
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.25 04:50:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Kylegar
Hey, We dont have rednecks here in Oregon, we just have idiots...Lots and lots of idiots.
Hippies too!
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Big Fuzz
ACCORD Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.25 05:47:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Big Fuzz on 25/03/2008 05:48:33
Originally by: Oofig VanDoogan
Originally by: Kylegar
Hey, We dont have rednecks here in Oregon, we just have idiots...Lots and lots of idiots.
Hippies too!
And Rambo.
edit: linkified :)
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Kylegar
Dawn of Fire
Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.03.25 07:10:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Oofig VanDoogan
Originally by: Kylegar
Hey, We dont have rednecks here in Oregon, we just have idiots...Lots and lots of idiots.
Hippies too!
That falls under group "Idiots"
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Originally by: CCP Ginger
No sex changes.
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Oofig VanDoogan
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Posted - 2008.03.25 07:43:00 -
[47]
:puts away his birkenstocks and his pipe and cries:
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Andyspike
Cassandra's Light
Caeruleum Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.25 09:58:00 -
[48]
So what about Carpe alliance? It seems to me all that Ka-Tet have done is start another alliance to distance themselves from RA. Or is it an inside take over bid of Oasa?
These are just my views and don't represent the thoughts of my corp/alliance.
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Reacz
Empirius Enigmus Navy
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.25 10:20:00 -
[49]
If it looks like DMC and smells like DMC, it probably is DMC. :P
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Mag's
MASS
Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.03.25 11:01:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Gort
Originally by: Valgren
Good post..........
Valgren
Former Director of Armed War Monkeys(AWM), co-founding corp of Ka-tet
This man speaks truth.
Aye for sure.
Lo guys 
Mag's
Originally by: Avernus
One of these days, the realization that MASS is no longer significant will catch up with you. |
Asuka Smith
StarHunt
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.03.25 11:06:00 -
[51]
Wow such a bad OP and it still manages to turn into some serious alliance drama post...
Strong work!
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Valgren
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.03.25 11:15:00 -
[52]
Yeah, well, I don't do this whole forums thing too often, so excuse my inability to copy/paste...especially since everyone has edited their previous posts....but yes, it was that guy's failure at reading comprehension...I laid out the problem quite clearly and specifically, and have had several former members back up my assessment on various levels.
Read my original post on this topic, from beginning to end, slowly. Very slowly until you comprehend it.
Val
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PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
MASS
Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.03.25 12:14:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Valgren
Yeah, well, I don't do this whole forums thing too often, so excuse my inability to copy/paste...especially since everyone has edited their previous posts....but yes, it was that guy's failure at reading comprehension...I laid out the problem quite clearly and specifically, and have had several former members back up my assessment on various levels.
Read my original post on this topic, from beginning to end, slowly. Very slowly until you comprehend it.
Val
The first day I was in ka-tet Val escorted me 15 jumps in my itty witty frigate a couple of jumps out of the destination system and proceeded to pod me back to empire.
It kinda went downhill from there.
Ill never forget you bas.tard.
o/
Peace WithinSo if the theory of relativity is true, shouldn't i arrive at my destination before i warped in the first place?
Neon GhostYou do, but this is compensated for by lag |
awebon
A.W.M
Soul of Fountain
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Posted - 2008.03.25 12:25:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Gort
Originally by: Valgren
Edited by: Valgren on 23/03/2008 22:01:49
Ok, from someone who was a director of one of the ka-tet founding corps, I can tell you why a lot of people (myself included) left...
We formed ka-tet with the idea that it would be a small number of large corps. Everything would be equal among the member corps as far as the running of the alliance. Everything went well at first, but then we started losing our pvp base because we had nap'd everyone and their brother and we had to go 30 jumps to find a fight. The idea that it has anything to do with money is rediculous...there are tons of good moons out there, and although the drones don't have bounties, they have other things that smart people can take advantage of and make a lot of money. Look at the billions of isk in ship losses on the ka-tet KB, and the way they continue to throw ships away. Production capabilities out there are unmatched. But I digress.
Back to the topic at hand...once the pvp'ers started leaving, it caused a large shift in power within both Rampage Eternal and Untaught. They basically split into seperate groups, with a large number of senior members leaving because of lack of pvp. We had similar problems in AWM, but not nearly on the level as RAM and T.DK. The higher ups leaving were replaced by people who were not holding true to the ideals that we had when forming ka-tet...it eventually downgraded to where it is now, which is basically a smaller ASCN. Lots of isk and production capability, but mostly carebear and a weird conglomerate of crappy little corps...and I forsee them going down like ASCN.
Come to think of it...most of this downward slide started happening when a number of ASCN refugee corps showed up on our doorstep and we took them in as renter/residents....hmmm...
But, as far as corps/people leaving now, it's like with any other KOS-esque alliance...corps are going to come and go on a pretty steady basis, mainly people thinking it's going to be grand and finding out that they would be better off running lvl3 missions for Nurtura than being in ka-tet, and leave.
Ka-tet was never supposed to have more than 4 member corps according to our original charter. We should have just kept our blue to RA and set everyone else neutral...I can only dream of what things would be like now if we had held true to that.
Valgren
Former Director of Armed War Monkeys(AWM), co-founding corp of Ka-tet
This man speaks truth.
this is the most truth in this thread.
it was unfortunate that ka-tet had to die but in a game like this its natural selection and ka-tet's time had come. Alliances come and go but friends made in said alliances remain friends, i hope this is the case in some circumstances.
RIP ka-tet, was a nice dream while it lasted
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Cazius
Horizon.Inc
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Posted - 2008.03.25 13:18:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Reacz
If it looks like DMC and smells like DMC, it probably is DMC. :P
/me smells a bit of DMC on Reacz
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Cruel Fox
Divine Power
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Posted - 2008.03.25 13:37:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Reacz
If it looks like DMC and smells like DMC, it probably is DMC. :P
And what would DMC had to do with new part of Ka TET? If u once was part of DMC that really does not mean u knew or know all about dead DMC. Enjoy in Insurgency and dont try to be smarty 
Nice to see how RA got again isk out of faill of 2 alliances wich should have been their coworkers/allays/friends or whatever u wana call it.
Long live KA TET - i hope u enjoed "victory" in Oasa - 2 bad to see it empty all the time.
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Reacz
Empirius Enigmus Navy
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.25 13:48:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Reacz on 25/03/2008 13:55:53
No deal. I like being smarty. :(
At least one ex-DMC corp was accepted into KA-TET after your 'break-up', whats it they say?
"To many bears spoil the Veld" ? :P
/me rubs Cazius :P
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Jarvin Kell
Kingdom of Kador
Kingdom of Redemption
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Posted - 2008.03.25 13:54:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Cruel Fox
Originally by: Reacz
If it looks like DMC and smells like DMC, it probably is DMC. :P
And what would DMC had to do with new part of Ka TET? If u once was part of DMC that really does not mean u knew or know all about dead DMC. Enjoy in Insurgency and dont try to be smarty
Nice to see how RA got again isk out of faill of 2 alliances wich should have been their coworkers/allays/friends or whatever u wana call it.
Long live KA TET - i hope u enjoed "victory" in Oasa - 2 bad to see it empty all the time.
Hey Cruel,
Just curious if there is any word from Unrah about repayment to his investors? I am told he isn't responding to evemails and isn't accepting private convos. I noticed that Feigling's corp joined Ka-Tet and is now in Carpe Universitas.
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Seragon
VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
Carpe Universitas
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:49:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Cruel Fox
Long live KA TET - i hope u enjoed "victory" in Oasa - 2 bad to see it empty all the time.
You and I seem to have very different definitions of empty
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onetowto
Hedion University
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Posted - 2008.03.25 23:18:00 -
[60]
guys relax is only a game
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Commander BlackJack
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Posted - 2008.03.26 00:09:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Commander BlackJack on 26/03/2008 00:26:18
Originally by: awebon
Originally by: Gort
Originally by: Valgren
Edited by: Valgren on 23/03/2008 22:01:49
Ok, from someone who was a director of one of the ka-tet founding corps, I can tell you why a lot of people (myself included) left...
We formed ka-tet with the idea that it would be a small number of large corps. Everything would be equal among the member corps as far as the running of the alliance. Everything went well at first, but then we started losing our pvp base because we had nap'd everyone and their brother and we had to go 30 jumps to find a fight. The idea that it has anything to do with money is rediculous...there are tons of good moons out there, and although the drones don't have bounties, they have other things that smart people can take advantage of and make a lot of money. Look at the billions of isk in ship losses on the ka-tet KB, and the way they continue to throw ships away. Production capabilities out there are unmatched. But I digress.
Back to the topic at hand...once the pvp'ers started leaving, it caused a large shift in power within both Rampage Eternal and Untaught. They basically split into seperate groups, with a large number of senior members leaving because of lack of pvp. We had similar problems in AWM, but not nearly on the level as RAM and T.DK. The higher ups leaving were replaced by people who were not holding true to the ideals that we had when forming ka-tet...it eventually downgraded to where it is now, which is basically a smaller ASCN. Lots of isk and production capability, but mostly carebear and a weird conglomerate of crappy little corps...and I forsee them going down like ASCN.
Come to think of it...most of this downward slide started happening when a number of ASCN refugee corps showed up on our doorstep and we took them in as renter/residents....hmmm...
But, as far as corps/people leaving now, it's like with any other KOS-esque alliance...corps are going to come and go on a pretty steady basis, mainly people thinking it's going to be grand and finding out that they would be better off running lvl3 missions for Nurtura than being in ka-tet, and leave.
Ka-tet was never supposed to have more than 4 member corps according to our original charter. We should have just kept our blue to RA and set everyone else neutral...I can only dream of what things would be like now if we had held true to that.
Valgren
Former Director of Armed War Monkeys(AWM), co-founding corp of Ka-tet
This man speaks truth.
this is the most truth in this thread.
it was unfortunate that ka-tet had to die but in a game like this its natural selection and ka-tet's time had come. Alliances come and go but friends made in said alliances remain friends, i hope this is the case in some circumstances.
RIP ka-tet, was a nice dream while it lasted
These guys spoke the truth.
"We are a brotherhood, we have built, fought, bled and died together û expecting anything less from each other is simply unacceptable."
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Darpz
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Posted - 2008.04.01 00:09:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Darpz on 01/04/2008 00:09:58
Originally by: awebon
Originally by: Gort
Originally by: Valgren
Edited by: Valgren on 23/03/2008 22:01:49
Ok, from someone who was a director of one of the ka-tet founding corps, I can tell you why a lot of people (myself included) left...
We formed ka-tet with the idea that it would be a small number of large corps. Everything would be equal among the member corps as far as the running of the alliance. Everything went well at first, but then we started losing our pvp base because we had nap'd everyone and their brother and we had to go 30 jumps to find a fight. The idea that it has anything to do with money is rediculous...there are tons of good moons out there, and although the drones don't have bounties, they have other things that smart people can take advantage of and make a lot of money. Look at the billions of isk in ship losses on the ka-tet KB, and the way they continue to throw ships away. Production capabilities out there are unmatched. But I digress.
Back to the topic at hand...once the pvp'ers started leaving, it caused a large shift in power within both Rampage Eternal and Untaught. They basically split into seperate groups, with a large number of senior members leaving because of lack of pvp. We had similar problems in AWM, but not nearly on the level as RAM and T.DK. The higher ups leaving were replaced by people who were not holding true to the ideals that we had when forming ka-tet...it eventually downgraded to where it is now, which is basically a smaller ASCN. Lots of isk and production capability, but mostly carebear and a weird conglomerate of crappy little corps...and I forsee them going down like ASCN.
Come to think of it...most of this downward slide started happening when a number of ASCN refugee corps showed up on our doorstep and we took them in as renter/residents....hmmm...
But, as far as corps/people leaving now, it's like with any other KOS-esque alliance...corps are going to come and go on a pretty steady basis, mainly people thinking it's going to be grand and finding out that they would be better off running lvl3 missions for Nurtura than being in ka-tet, and leave.
Ka-tet was never supposed to have more than 4 member corps according to our original charter. We should have just kept our blue to RA and set everyone else neutral...I can only dream of what things would be like now if we had held true to that.
Valgren
Former Director of Armed War Monkeys(AWM), co-founding corp of Ka-tet
This man speaks truth.
this is the most truth in this thread.
it was unfortunate that ka-tet had to die but in a game like this its natural selection and ka-tet's time had come. Alliances come and go but friends made in said alliances remain friends, i hope this is the case in some circumstances.
RIP ka-tet, was a nice dream while it lasted
these guys all about coverd it, the frege war was supposed to happen in April/May of 07 with a sneak attack by smashkill/ram as a last ditch effort to restart the alliance but that never really materialized. then trigger came back to the game and decided to give up and reformed mass and that was pretty much it since all the euro pvpers left for mass from RAM and other pvpers went on to other corps.
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Nicholas Barker
MASS
Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.04.01 08:40:00 -
[63]
is this a bad time for me to come in waving my flag?
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Night Light
Hunerian Science Institute
Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2008.04.01 12:03:00 -
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Valgren's reply is extremly accurate. I was a member of The Huns, a pvp corp that joined ka-tet's 3 original corps and at that time pvp was the main thing going in ka-tet. When someone showed up anywhere in the region we'd get a 30-40 men gang in under 1 minute and we'd chase them. Then came the DS1 disaster, yes they had a huge capital fleet and yes they committed them but I believe DS1 and the other ka-tet corps had a different agenda so in the end of the feyth campaign DS1 left and some of the most active pvpers were a bit fed up. At that time some ex-ASCN applied and were refused, because we simply weren't a "let's all be nice red pets and carebear the whole day long" alliance.
As additional proof to what Valgren said, we in the huns were having internal problems (real life issues, too much effort to build our own outpost, etc - doesnt matter) and since ka-tet membership was demanding we decided to leave - please note no one asked us to leave, and whoever was in the huns and is in other places today still remembers ka-tet ppl as great ppl. After that some good corps joined ka-tet but a LOT of ASCN refugees were allowed to join, too - and you simply can't say "all corps must have 100 pvpers and an outpost" and then allow some to simply behave differently!
It is sad to see what ka-tet became, after having been a true elite alliance.
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Arron S
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Posted - 2008.04.01 13:49:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Arron S on 01/04/2008 13:55:21
Edited by: Arron S on 01/04/2008 13:52:21
Originally by: Nicholas Barker
is this a bad time for me to come in waving my flag?
What kind of flag.
FYI: Ram has control of the alliance again, and is being lead by Raven Khan now. I have lost all of my Respect for AWM ,T.DK, CDI and BIG, Basically I hope the door hit them in the ass, and they fall down the stairs and break their neck. No one is Shedding tears over them leaving or being kicked out of the alliance.
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Wesley Baird
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.01 14:23:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Arron S
Basically I hope the door hit them in the ass, and they fall down the stairs and break their neck. No one is Shedding tears over them leaving or being kicked out of the alliance.
That's the spirit!
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Oofig VanDoogan
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Posted - 2008.04.01 15:40:00 -
[67]
Ka-Tet will once more regain its former glory now!
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Full circle.
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Seerr Taak
CyberDyne Industries
Carpe Universitas
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Posted - 2008.04.01 15:52:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Arron S
Edited by: Arron S on 01/04/2008 13:55:21
Edited by: Arron S on 01/04/2008 13:52:21
Originally by: Nicholas Barker
is this a bad time for me to come in waving my flag?
What kind of flag.
FYI: Ram has control of the alliance again, and is being lead by Raven Khan now. I have lost all of my Respect for AWM ,T.DK, CDI and BIG, Basically I hope the door hit them in the ass, and they fall down the stairs and break their neck. No one is Shedding tears over them leaving or being kicked out of the alliance.
Have fun rebuilding under Raven Khans leadership.
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Illion
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Posted - 2008.04.01 18:38:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Illion on 01/04/2008 18:39:34
Originally by: Seerr Taak
Originally by: Arron S
Edited by: Arron S on 01/04/2008 13:55:21
Edited by: Arron S on 01/04/2008 13:52:21
Originally by: Nicholas Barker
is this a bad time for me to come in waving my flag?
What kind of flag.
FYI: Ram has control of the alliance again, and is being lead by Raven Khan now. I have lost all of my Respect for AWM ,T.DK, CDI and BIG, Basically I hope the door hit them in the ass, and they fall down the stairs and break their neck. No one is Shedding tears over them leaving or being kicked out of the alliance.
Have fun rebuilding under Raven Khans leadership.
They will - and even if they aren't; Raven will tell them they are - and they'll believe him :)
Ill.
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Graalum
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Posted - 2008.04.01 18:45:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Oofig VanDoogan
Ka-Tet will once more regain its former glory now!
bitter frege poast +1
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Niedar
MASS
Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.04.01 19:46:00 -
[71]
meh good luck
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Shpuntik
Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 19:04:00 -
[72]
to put it simple FREGE > Sparta > Falling Souls > YouWhat > DMC > KOS > KaTet whos next?
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Thaanvanite
ACCORD Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.03 19:27:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Shpuntik
to put it simple FREGE > Sparta > Falling Souls > YouWhat > DMC > KOS > KaTet whos next?
you forgot OXIDE
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Detaitiv
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.04.03 19:53:00 -
[74]
Wait a sec, Raven is in charge again?
Isn't he the guy that made the dumb ass call to get them into all sort of trouble and hogs all the good moons?
Is this an intentional comedy?
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Valgren
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.04.04 12:15:00 -
[75]
Lol @ Raven leading anything.
Good luck, Arron. Sorry to hear you lost respect for AWM, and sorry you're apparently so butthurt about the whole situation. I know your 10 kills between December of '06 and January of '08 were the biggest single contribution to RAM's pvp efforts, so i'm glad you're still there to hold down the fort.
Val
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PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
aurorae pacificas
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Posted - 2008.04.04 12:20:00 -
[76]
Edited by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik on 04/04/2008 12:20:19
Originally by: Valgren
Lol @ Raven leading anything.
Good luck, Arron. Sorry to hear you lost respect for AWM, and sorry you're apparently so butthurt about the whole situation. I know your 10 kills between December of '06 and January of '08 were the biggest single contribution to RAM's pvp efforts, so i'm glad you're still there to hold down the fort.
Val
Holy sh1t Val. I love you.
Bam! Right in the kisser! Bam! Right in the kisser! Bam! Right in the kisser!
Peace WithinSo if the theory of relativity is true, shouldn't i arrive at my destination before i warped in the first place?
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Catholic Priest
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Posted - 2008.04.04 13:32:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Valgren
Lol @ Raven leading anything.
Good luck, Arron. Sorry to hear you lost respect for AWM, and sorry you're apparently so butthurt about the whole situation. I know your 10 kills between December of '06 and January of '08 were the biggest single contribution to RAM's pvp efforts, so i'm glad you're still there to hold down the fort.
Val
Arron always was full of S*&!.
You rock Val!
AWM misses you!
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Defying
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Posted - 2008.04.04 14:44:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Valgren
Lol @ Raven leading anything.
Good luck, Arron. Sorry to hear you lost respect for AWM, and sorry you're apparently so butthurt about the whole situation. I know your 10 kills between December of '06 and January of '08 were the biggest single contribution to RAM's pvp efforts, so i'm glad you're still there to hold down the fort.
Val
i never had any problems with arron but that made me chuckle
sorry arron 
o/ val hows u mate tis i chibbles
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Defying
Storm Guard Elite
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Posted - 2008.04.04 14:47:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Shpuntik
to put it simple FREGE > Sparta > Falling Souls > YouWhat > DMC > KOS > KaTet whos next?
also this sig made me chuckle
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Shpuntik
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Posted - 2008.04.04 17:19:00 -
[80]
every member of invicta gets there own personal one glad you like it :)
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Thak Navari
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Posted - 2008.04.04 17:54:00 -
[81]
This is still an active thread? Time to move along gents this thread is old news!
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Oofig VanDoogan
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Posted - 2008.04.04 19:33:00 -
[82]
IM NOT BITTER
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Full circle.
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Eliphal
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Posted - 2008.04.04 23:37:00 -
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Edited by: Eliphal on 04/04/2008 23:37:36
I do not know much about ka-tet's history, but I know what it was like fighting them. Sure, in pvp, they were not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed (seriously guys, some of those fittings.....). But, they didn't just give up. Even thier industrial members were flying whatever they could to try and help fight. We make jokes about them basicly being raped, but they held on. And kept fighting, even after substantial losses.
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awebon
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Posted - 2008.04.05 00:09:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Arron S
Edited by: Arron S on 01/04/2008 13:55:21
FYI: Ram has control of the alliance again, and is being lead by Raven Khan now. I have lost all of my Respect for AWM ,T.DK, CDI and BIG, Basically I hope the door hit them in the ass, and they fall down the stairs and break their neck. No one is Shedding tears over them leaving or being kicked out of the alliance.
oh im sorry, i had to giggle... i had respect for RAM at the beginning, but since all the people i really knew left / quit and more people began to grow pretentious and egotistical i soon lost that respect i once had...
Ka-tet is not what it was/is... it's a ghost in the shell. the people we made the bonds with, the allies with, the naps... they have lost respect as the ideals and founding members have gone. all they have to work with these days are people with egos and chest beaters. buying RA's help disgusted me, 30billion isk for what? the securing of oasa and what a waste of time that was. you stretched the alliance out too far without proper logistics and numbers. the self appointed leader Raven left the corps there to fend for themselves whilst he took the r64 moons and got profitable... not a good morale booster for the alliance as the leader / leading corp get rich, others made to suffer.
as for your comment bout doors hitting our ass and breaking necks... you may sit behind the computer and hide behind your persona, but you talk bout lost respect... you never had my respect and wouldve lost it for that comment. we had our reasons for leaving, we done it peacefully and without ill manners...
as i said in my earlier post, the Ka-Tet that was created with the morales and ideals has died, the allies you once had have fallen. tis only a name without meaning.
RIP Ka-tet of old. and RIP Ka-Tet of new, you had your fun trying to play region holders, time to move on
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Detrious
A.W.M
Soul of Fountain
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Posted - 2008.04.05 01:08:00 -
[85]
what awebon said, wth would we respect the squatters we left behind?
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Katie Liu
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Posted - 2008.04.05 23:16:00 -
[86]
The rumors of Ka-tets Death are premature it is not dead yet!
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Ztrain
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Posted - 2008.04.06 19:08:00 -
[87]
It is semi satisfying to see a year later what origionally told Ka-tet people during the r97 siege. Sorry but I can't really see any alliance that has ever had DS1 in their alliance as being considered a respectable alliance. Either they had previously lowered or their standards didn't exist in the first place.
Ether way even to the people not in Ka-tet but looking on from the outside. The acceptance of DS1 or STK in to your ranks is an Alliances recipe for internal disaster. You were warned a year ago.......next time heed the warnings.
Z
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Tsarinia
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Posted - 2008.04.06 19:28:00 -
[88]
Ztrain i remember shooting your pos, seems like such a long time ago :(
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Ztrain
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.06 20:56:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Ztrain on 06/04/2008 21:00:45
Originally by: Tsarinia
Ztrain i remember shooting your pos, seems like such a long time ago :(
Which one? LOL there were so many. Hell the number of POSs we ran was almost as many as the members in the alliance. We had one POS in r97 that was like the only POS in there at Planet 9-7. It survived two entire invasions. First the Ka-Tet invasion, then the TCF one, Was never reinforced nor attacked. It's greatest achievement was killing TCF cov ops that kept warping in to it.
Then there was 0oyz that had all moons covered. I don't recall Ka-tet ever being able to break in to that system at all. TCF I think killed the 3 smalls and then the same day that F-T was going down killed one of the larges to take sov for less then a month. Never having been able to take the other 3 down before BoB ousted them.
I remember Ka-tet coming to kill off a small in one of our dead end ratting systems in that area I can't really remember the name of atm. For the most part Ka-tet didn't really do much more then out spam and shoot down one station and kill a small ratting POS if I recall correctly. didn't really have too much trouble with Ka-tet at all. TCF was a bit of a challenge for a 15 man alliance. But that was still fun too.
Either way I knew Ka-tet was doomed once DS1 joined them. Was only a matter of time. I've thought wow they've survived the curse a lot longer then I expected. Although seeing the posts above I guess they really hadn't. Just just the hulk remained after the talent bailed.
Looking back a year ago though, had some awesome fights, lots of fun, tons of local banter. Hind sight is 20/20 but still wouldn't change at thing.
Z
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