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Veylan Keyne	Posted - 2004.04.13 16:35:00 - [1] I am new to Eve (14 day trial) and have been reading a lot of posts in the forums about issues people have had with Pvp, mining, boredom, etc. However, I just wondered if there are corporations out there that are more roleplay based. Roleplay to me means: - Develop a character based on goals as if you were actually in EVE, instead of camping a gate just to kill anything that came through (although that could be roleplayed maybe). - Staying in character in speach as well as actions. Meaning not talking about things that your character could not know unless they actually experienced it in game (e.g. ship stats would have to be found using in game resources and not external game resources tools, etc) - Have a developed back story/bio that defines some of why you are in Eve. Where you came from, political beliefs, etc. - Have real roleplay discussions about in game events or planning in game events (e.g. wars, etc) based on your characters past, goals, and aspirations. Is there anything thriving like this in Eve? I have found this to be difficult to find in MMORPG's (note - never played UO) except the persistent worlds in Neverwinter nights. It seems to me that Eve has the atmosphere and design that could promote this type of game play, but just wondered if it actually exists. If it does please let me know of some ways to get involved. K
Sybylle	Posted - 2004.04.13 16:49:00 - [2] Hi Veylan RP corps...I don't have names for english speaking RP corps. But as they exist in other languages, I think you can find some of them. The thing is that it's more a player-based RP than a corp RP, i.e., in a same corp you will find RP peeps and non RP peeps. But I think many people play it like that since bio is avalaible. Good luck (\_/) (O.o) (> <)=Oveur (proof) "Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period"
Ukiah	Posted - 2004.04.13 17:00:00 - [3] Lame Ducks is a pretty active Caldari only RP corp. PIE is an Amarr corp HUGE into PVP There are also a number of Minmatar RP corps that are usually at war with PIE.
Darius Shakor	Posted - 2004.04.13 17:05:00 - [4] Have a look in the Intergalactic Summit forum section. Thats where all the role play goes. And to some lesser extent, the EVE Library forum. If you are going into roleplay in eve, I suggest that you also read up as much of the race info and any relevant chronicals to your chosen character race to see what aspect you can get into. For example, Amarr are a highly religious, fudal society which has a history of enslaving other races for their own good. (ie. to enighten the savage races) So if you are an Amarr character, then no doubt you would want to research such roleplay and start talking bible babble etc. Also try and associate with other corps that are pro-home race such as PIE inc. (Pro Amarr) or The Peoples Front of Minmatar (Pro Minmatar). ------ Analysis[Ceasefire]....Complete - 'Term given to the act of firing, causing the ceasation of the life it is directed at
Aodha Khan	Posted - 2004.04.13 17:41:00 - [5] Edited by: Aodha Khan on 13/04/2004 18:06:59 There are many role playing corps. Look back on the history in the intergalactic summit. Minmatar.Net Amarr.Net So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2004.04.13 17:59:00 - [6] We're laying the foundation, not yet trimming the gargoyles which is strutting that stuff on the Intergalactic Summit. Ourselves Alone Convert Stations
AsheRaven	Posted - 2004.04.13 19:08:00 - [7] What we really need is direction All I tend to see a lot of is reaction to NPC stories and little else. C'mon GM's let the players make a mark and give us an opportunity to act rather than to simply react all the time, please? Hopefully this meeting onm the 30th might proove fruitful, though I think that other members of CCP should come along and listen to what we players are trying to add. I'm starting to feel like Tyto and Viquer Fell and wondering why I do what I do day in day out without seeing anything comeback storywise in return. And its just a chore ---------------------------------
Eve Baenre	Posted - 2004.04.13 19:12:00 - [8] Tried to start a pure RP character but its kinda hard when everybody else is talking 1337 smack.
Discorporation	Posted - 2004.04.13 19:14:00 - [9] Quote: What we really need is direction All I tend to see a lot of is reaction to NPC stories and little else. C'mon GM's let the players make a mark and give us an opportunity to act rather than to simply react all the time, please? Hopefully this meeting onm the 30th might proove fruitful, though I think that other members of CCP should come along and listen to what we players are trying to add. I'm starting to feel like Tyto and Viquer Fell and wondering why I do what I do day in day out without seeing anything comeback storywise in return. And its just a chore so far you've not been adding worthwhile things. your storylines are your own. 's nothing that ccp can help you with. what ccp can do, is provide you with tools ingame to facilitate RP, nothing more. [Heterocephalus glaber]
Uhclem	Posted - 2004.04.13 19:15:00 - [10] Edited by: Uhclem on 13/04/2004 19:17:10 INO is attempting to reform as we speak. For those un aware, pre-beta INO existed as the source of news and information about everything from RP events, to real corporate political struggles. Sort of a combination of the two, and it really worked well, until Ragnar of TTI attempted to sue us (yes, sue, in real life), and devoted his pathetic life to our downfall. I found it funny if somewhat annoying, but IÆm glad we weÆre that effective. Anyway, if youÆre interested, give us a call, as we should be throwing some news up within the week.
AsheRaven	Posted - 2004.04.13 19:38:00 - [11] Edited by: AsheRaven on 13/04/2004 19:40:54 Quote: so far you've not been adding worthwhile things. your storylines are your own. 's nothing that ccp can help you with. what ccp can do, is provide you with tools ingame to facilitate RP, nothing more. Thats quite a blanket affair, I have involved a number of people who tire after awhile because no one listens, so whats the point? All we want is something interactive, something we can all suggest or do? But whats the point of a rally of people turning up at Eram, with a petition for Milduer (even if they have been warned in advance) and nothing happens? We make a few loud noises, say our bit then dissapear (and I'm not talking about the Khummak issue either). Big deal. Mildur is not a character, neither is her government. So we're playing agsint NPC's who run the show and ignore the rest of us. Only the Scope seems to pay attention to us these days, and CA get all the polotical threads drowning out the real recruiters in the Corp Topics. So recruitments pretty pointless too. Good for the Beta players eh? ---------------------------------
AsheRaven	Posted - 2004.04.13 19:39:00 - [12] Quote: Edited by: Uhclem on 13/04/2004 19:17:10 INO is attempting to reform as we speak. For those un aware, pre-beta INO existed as the source of news and information about everything from RP events, to real corporate political struggles. Sort of a combination of the two, and it really worked well, until Ragnar of TTI attempted to sue us (yes, sue, in real life), and devoted his pathetic life to our downfall. I found it funny if somewhat annoying, but I’m glad we we’re that effective. Anyway, if you’re interested, give us a call, as we should be throwing some news up within the week. I'd certainly be interested ---------------------------------
Discorporation	Posted - 2004.04.13 19:39:00 - [13] Ye, we beta players rock :) [Heterocephalus glaber]
haggis	Posted - 2004.04.13 20:01:00 - [14] Quote: Ye, we beta players rock :) This is off-topic, and I know you're not all that serious, but, why do all you betas unite when at the time (beta) you had so many arguments amoungst yourselves? And I'm talking about some serious arguing that was going on. My request, could we maybe have a rift between the beta players? Maybe half of them call the other half smelly? Thanks that would be super .
Discorporation	Posted - 2004.04.13 20:17:00 - [15] BAD HARLEQUIN IS SMELLY! There Dunno, haggis, to be honest. It's generally confirmed that beta people kick booty, though (like you yourself would know ) [Heterocephalus glaber]
Riddari	Posted - 2004.04.13 20:22:00 - [16] Quote: Quote: Ye, we beta players rock :) This is off-topic, and I know you're not all that serious, but, why do all you betas unite when at the time (beta) you had so many arguments amoungst yourselves? And I'm talking about some serious arguing that was going on. My request, could we maybe have a rift between the beta players? Maybe half of them call the other half smelly? Thanks that would be super . Well first it's the need to belong, there is just a few of us (beta) and many of the others (non-beta) Secondly we feel we've been through a lot during our beta-testing (oh the horror!!!) so I guess that forms sort of a mutual bond. So I guess we are just as much as of herd animals as the rest ¼©¼ a history
Xavier Perez	Posted - 2004.04.13 20:23:00 - [17] Roleplayers tend to be bad game players. You'll find this true in most mmorpgs. They arent the powergamers with sixteen ours a day to play a game, but they can have fun, yes. The only roleplay corps I know of in eve stick to the safety of empire space.
Drac Dragnog	Posted - 2004.04.13 20:26:00 - [18] Veylan, contact Jade COnstantine and she can help you get into a few of the rooms where RP goes on, her corp Jericho Faction is supposed to be a mass RP corp but I dont know because Im not in it. Disclaimer Random Babble is quite possible
Drac Dragnog	Posted - 2004.04.13 20:26:00 - [19] Veylan, contact Jade COnstantine and she can help you get into a few of the rooms where RP goes on, her corp Jericho Faction is supposed to be a mass RP corp but I dont know because Im not in it. Disclaimer Random Babble is quite possible
Karunel	Posted - 2004.04.13 20:34:00 - [20] Well that's not exactly true about RPers not being Hardcore gamers. I mean, in my case it's quite true, but considering that EVE "hardcore game" seems to consist of huge alliances with a 0 roleplaying part that spend their time declaring wars to each other and little else, RP corporations usually decide to remain in Empire space. It's not their fault that empire space is so safe and boring that is considered a "newb place".
Riddari	Posted - 2004.04.13 20:38:00 - [21] Quote: Roleplayers tend to be bad game players. You'll find this true in most mmorpgs. They arent the powergamers with sixteen ours a day to play a game, but they can have fun, yes. The only roleplay corps I know of in eve stick to the safety of empire space. cough Short memory cough ¼©¼ a history
haggis	Posted - 2004.04.13 22:03:00 - [22] Quote: Secondly we feel we've been through a lot during our beta-testing (oh the horror!!!) so I guess that forms sort of a mutual bond. Good point, I'm sure discorp is scarred for life over a certain 80 or so page argument (I may be wrong, 80 seems a bit ridiculous, but I could have sworn it was...)... btw, I loot steal all the time .
Randuin MaraL	Posted - 2004.04.15 11:08:00 - [23] RP is not dead, have a look at Linkage ____________________________________________________ Never be in the company of anyone with whom you would not want to die. MEDUSA veteran, Khumaak Award winner
Discorporation	Posted - 2004.04.15 11:13:00 - [24] Quote: Quote: Secondly we feel we've been through a lot during our beta-testing (oh the horror!!!) so I guess that forms sort of a mutual bond. Good point, I'm sure discorp is scarred for life over a certain 80 or so page argument (I may be wrong, 80 seems a bit ridiculous, but I could have sworn it was...)... btw, I loot steal all the time . Lmao, I'm surprised you remember . One of the finest episodes of trolling a thread I ever pulled off You can only imagine how frustrating this criminal flagging sounds to me [Heterocephalus glaber]
Kretin Arnon	Posted - 2004.04.15 11:34:00 - [25] My corp has hundreds of pilots, but they're mostly brain dead and never talk to me Also they tend to shoot at me when ever they get a chance. And boy does this implant look funny...
Hardin	Posted - 2004.04.15 11:44:00 - [26] Quote: ...RP corporations usually decide to remain in Empire space. It's not their fault that empire space is so safe and boring that is considered a "newb place". Empire Space aint 'safe' if you have 13 active wars... we have battles everynight with evil Minmatar terrorists...
Darius Shakor	Posted - 2004.04.15 11:53:00 - [27] Quote: Empire Space aint 'safe' if you have 13 active wars... we have battles everynight with evil Minmatar terrorists... What a coincidence, as I hear that a lot of freedom fighters have battles with slave mongering religious fanatics... ------ Analysis[Ceasefire]....Complete - 'Term given to the act of firing, causing the ceasation of the life it is directed at
Hardin	Posted - 2004.04.15 12:18:00 - [28] Quote: Quote: Empire Space aint 'safe' if you have 13 active wars... we have battles everynight with evil Minmatar terrorists... What a coincidence, as I hear that a lot of freedom fighters have battles with slave mongering religious fanatics... Who are you calling a fanatic you ugly Minmatar dog. Now lick my shoes slave!
Athule Snanm	Posted - 2004.04.15 12:29:00 - [29] Quote: ...All I tend to see a lot of is reaction to NPC stories and little else. C'mon GM's let the players make a mark and give us an opportunity to act rather than to simply react all the time, please?... Sadly the few times that this has been allowed (and it has happened in the past) resulted in one of the following things happening (usually both): 1. Players/corps/alliances involved complained that they were being treated unfairly/lied about/etc. Three examples spring to mind immediately: TTi, Techell and Oracle. In the case of TTi the entire news service got the plug pulled and in Oracle's the news story was yanked. In both cases they needed a right to reply (and in TTi's case they had it) but that was clearly not enough for them. 2. Players/corps/alliances not involved complained about favouritism. Classic example of this was the lone Miner V that got released by accident and made it into the news, from the huge fuss it caused it'd be easy to forget that it was just a single mining laser, not a huge stack of them or a BP. The release of Miner II BPs after that was probably a bit more contentious but most of the real ranting was before that. I think the future of EVEWorld and player interaction depends more on the ability of players to stomach things they don't like than it does on their desire to get things they do like. _______________________________ Doomheim - EVE's only hygiene!
Miso	Posted - 2004.04.15 13:34:00 - [30] Quote: I think the future of EVEWorld and player interaction depends more on the ability of players to stomach things they don't like than it does on their desire to get things they do like. Amen to that. -------------------------------------------- Dead

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