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Angela Toren
Toren Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.03.23 14:50:00 -
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Here's one of many unsettling excerpts I found in the terms and conditions:
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Vuze uses the information that you provide or that we collect to operate, maintain, enhance, and provide all of the features and services found on the Vuze Platform as well as to track user-generated content and Users to the extent necessary to comply as a service provider with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
There's tonnes of stuff also about information taken from your cookies and it's use of your email. Whatever happened to the non bast4rdized version of Azureus?
Go MPAA! Go RIAA! 
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Angela Toren
Toren Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.03.23 14:50:00 -
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Here's one of many unsettling excerpts I found in the terms and conditions:
Quote:
Vuze uses the information that you provide or that we collect to operate, maintain, enhance, and provide all of the features and services found on the Vuze Platform as well as to track user-generated content and Users to the extent necessary to comply as a service provider with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
There's tonnes of stuff also about information taken from your cookies and it's use of your email. Whatever happened to the non bast4rdized version of Azureus?
Go MPAA! Go RIAA!
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NeoNeTiC
Mortis Angelus
The Church.
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Posted - 2008.03.23 15:30:00 -
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Well, sometimes people get affected by this thing called greed.
That's when they come up with all sorts of strange business models and ***** their original idea out.
In this case the guys who developed a highly configurable multi-platform BitTorrent client tried to give it a purpose outside of pirate-communities ( ) by advertising this thing they called "Vuze" (which is a dumb name in my opinion) as high-quality multimedia content provider.
As with Youtube, Stage6 and any other multimedia content providers people soon started to upload the same ripped movies and music normally available on your trusted software piracy site, endangering their attempt to make a legit business model out of it.
So what do you do? Rightey, you write something like
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Vuze uses the information that you provide or that we collect to operate, maintain, enhance, and provide all of the features and services found on the Vuze Platform as well as to track user-generated content and Users to the extent necessary to comply as a service provider with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
into your EULA to **** these people over who made your product what it was in the first place () and stay on the safe side (law-wise) .
So what happens now?
Nothing.
The people who pirate images, movies, music, software or any other digitally available data will continue using Azureus because they give a **** about the EULA anyways.
The ones who get dragged into BitTorrenting through clever "Vuze"-advertisement and word-of-mouth advertising will mostlikely not even read the EULA because "THAR BE MOVIES FOR FREE!".
As you surely know every single legitimate business will comply with authorities and sell you out in case you get caught. Nothing more do these Azureus guys.
Goes for most of your favorite sites on the internet by the way. Even forums.
tl;dr:
No one cares. Here's your Azureus-Vuze. Go pirate some with the other kids - it's cool.
Have a nice day,
NeoNeTiC
[MORTS]-Copycat
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Basileus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.23 15:46:00 -
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Cheers OP for pointing that out. I suppose I'd be looking for a different torrent client.
Anyone got any decent clients they can recommend?
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Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.03.23 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Basileus
Cheers OP for pointing that out. I suppose I'd be looking for a different torrent client.
Anyone got any decent clients they can recommend?
Bittornado is my personal favourite.
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Grimpak
Trinity Nova
Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.23 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Basileus
Cheers OP for pointing that out. I suppose I'd be looking for a different torrent client.
Anyone got any decent clients they can recommend?
uTorrent?
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Kyrall
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.23 17:41:00 -
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www.oldversion.com is a very useful site. As its name suggests, it has old versions of programs, so you can get yourself a nice pre-Vuze version.
If you use a firewall which can block outgoing connections (I use Zonealarm), you can stop Azureus from updating as soon as you install it, then go into the settings and turn off updates. Problem solved!
Actually, you may even be able to update an old version without installing the Vuze stuff, I'm not certain about that though. I didn't manage it, and I now need to get an older version myself!
- Originally by: Miss Anthropy
Real life friends are over-rated and real doll's are just sad. Companion cube is by far the best choice.
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Jenna Johnson
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.23 20:03:00 -
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Azureus is a pile of crap now. uses lots of resources for nothing. I'd go with Grimpak and recommend uTorrent. its tiny like 200k and looks almost like Azureus back in the day.
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NeoShocker
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.23 20:14:00 -
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I recommend using utorrent. :)
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.03.23 20:20:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 23/03/2008 20:23:53
Two things.
1. This is about the Vuze part (the "live" content distribution part of the "new Azureus"). The regular torrent part is... well... regular. Or at least, so I gather.
2. They HAD to do that because of Comcast's stunt with the "cut P2P traffic for ISP clients", and as such, the paying users of Vuze content were experiencing degraded performance.
Now, if you have any shred of proof that they "SPY" on the "Azureus" pure torrent side and actually plan to do anything about it... please, go ahead, let us know, so those of us living in the USA or equally crazy countries can jump ship to an older version of Azureus, or some other client.
By the way, I've heard pretty much the exact same type of allegations about uTorrent in the past.
Granted, they don't have it in the EULA, but still...
P.S. I keep Azureus in "2.x skin mode". The Vuze layer doesn't even load.
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Kyrall
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.23 21:11:00 -
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Seeing as I was going to reinstall anyway, I decided to give uTorrent a try and tbh it's worth it just to get away from them trying to force Vuze down your throat!
It's low on system resource use by design, it misses no features from Azureus that I used and actually has extra features that I like, and going through the settings there was little I had to change from the default settings.
Another recommendation for uTorrent here.
- Originally by: Miss Anthropy
Real life friends are over-rated and real doll's are just sad. Companion cube is by far the best choice.
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torswin
Silver Snake Enterprise
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Posted - 2008.03.23 23:10:00 -
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If you have an extra computer to spare (an old one) I would reccomend putting it up running Ubuntu Server Edition and rtorrent, and leave it in the closet or something.
I'm so glad I did that. It's so much easier and you can keep it on all day and night. Mine is running Folding at Home aswell so the free resources are being donated to good science aswell :)
Might be a bit steep learning curve to begin with though.
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