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Aclyn Seriy Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.03.24 03:00:00 - [31] Originally by: Galactic Tycoon Originally by: Aclyn Seriy Originally by: Galactic Tycoon Edited by: Galactic Tycoon on 24/03/2008 02:27:32 followed by some more then just for good measure, how about a little more finishing up with a healthy dose of with added flavoured whine Ah yes, pirates. Strong in numbers, weak children on thier own actually im the alt of a carebear, its just that its 3am here, im about to go to bed and i fancied trolling for once, which worked perfectly. oh, and im a solo carebear too.
Protrade University of Caille	Posted - 2008.03.24 03:04:00 - [32] Market Warfare :D I've dropped the prices in jita on about 30 modules today by over 25%. Thats war... Then i bought them all for resell. I love pvp. _____________________________________ Wealth is not determined by assets or liquid isk. It is determined by the amount of caracals in your possession.
Kahega Amielden Legacy Syndicate space weaponry and trade	Posted - 2008.03.24 03:05:00 - [33] I think this is a perfect example of why antipirates aren't generally seen as a threat. Rather than doing it because they want to kick some ass and be serious about PVPing, they do it on a crusade against the evil griefers.
Corwain Aliastra	Posted - 2008.03.24 03:10:00 - [34] When you play StarCraft do you just try to build up your economy and ignore the actual goal of defeating your opponent? When you play Counter-Strike do you run around going "Don't shoot me you bad people! You're terrorists in real life!". If the answer is no then stop playing EVE that way. EVE is a game about blowing up others ships, not about collecting ships. --
Galactic Tycoon Khatovar Industries Ltd Exa Nation	Posted - 2008.03.24 03:12:00 - [35] Originally by: Kahega Amielden I think this is a perfect example of why antipirates aren't generally seen as a threat. Rather than doing it because they want to kick some ass and be serious about PVPing, they do it on a crusade against the evil griefers. I suppose. But regardless I'll now kill pirates (Eventually) where previously I wouldn't have given them much thought. So it will bring them loss at some point (signifcant of not) and the balance of pain shifts slightly back onto an even level.
Dahak2150 Chaos Monkeys	Posted - 2008.03.24 03:15:00 - [36] OK.
Galactic Tycoon Khatovar Industries Ltd Exa Nation	Posted - 2008.03.24 03:16:00 - [37] Originally by: Corwain When you play StarCraft do you just try to build up your economy and ignore the actual goal of defeating your opponent? When you play Counter-Strike do you run around going "Don't shoot me you bad people! You're terrorists in real life!". If the answer is no then stop playing EVE that way. EVE is a game about blowing up others ships, not about collecting ships. I agreed earlier that killing is the core of the game. I can easily play EVE and not have to kill anyone. The goal is what you make it to be. I've not killed anyone yet but I have done missions and killed npcs. But I chose to do that I didn't need to. Starcraft is more one dimensional you MUST kill same with CS, EVE...it's vast and isn't really a game you finish. I don't think the comparisons are valid.
Reem Fairchild Shadow Forces Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.24 03:24:00 - [38] Originally by: Galactic Tycoon Originally by: Corwain When you play StarCraft do you just try to build up your economy and ignore the actual goal of defeating your opponent? When you play Counter-Strike do you run around going "Don't shoot me you bad people! You're terrorists in real life!". If the answer is no then stop playing EVE that way. EVE is a game about blowing up others ships, not about collecting ships. I agreed earlier that killing is the core of the game. I can easily play EVE and not have to kill anyone. The goal is what you make it to be. I've not killed anyone yet but I have done missions and killed npcs. But I chose to do that I didn't need to. Starcraft is more one dimensional you MUST kill same with CS, EVE...it's vast and isn't really a game you finish. I don't think the comparisons are valid. Ok, you choose to play that way, but why say you hate people for playing the game in one of the ways its intended to be played? (Unless you're doing it in-character or whatever.) If it makes you feel better, just pretend they're an uber form of npc pirates.
Atomos Darksun Infortunatus Eventus	Posted - 2008.03.24 03:32:00 - [39] pew pew internet spaceship explosions. Sucks to lose ships, but inEVE, your fun is at the expensve of somebody else. Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
Nyabinghi Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.03.24 04:13:00 - [40] I'd like to know the details of how your brother got blown up. My guess is that he was unaccustomed to low sec survival. Players these days can get in a BS within a month but it takes much, much longer to survive in one. People forget all the many, many little skills that need to be trained up to fit your ship effectively. This fact should be in a players guide somewhere. I've seen videos of like a cruiser taking out a BS, how? Skills and modules makes the difference. Send your brother over to Agony Unleashed and get him to take a few classes. Start with a frigate and work with that for awhile. ***

Lord Bleu MisFunk Inc. Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2008.03.24 09:19:00 - [41] It's harsh, but it's the way we like it mate. A loss is always an emotional thing especially if you've spent a long time to obtain it. Fortunately this makes eve an adult orientated game. Thank goodness for that! ------- I came, I saw, I drank all the beer!
Polly Prissypantz Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.24 09:36:00 - [42] Originally by: Galactic Tycoon Originally by: Lurana Jade The problem with being an "Anti-Pirate" for many is: the tools that CCP gives people to do so is either non-existent or broken. The Bounty system is the biggest joke ever, whoever dreamed this one up obviously lives in a drug and alchohol-induced stupor or was dropped on his head once too often as a child. Not being able to agress Pirates with a negative security status without losing status of your own is another bad deal (but easily fixed, asuming CCP wanted too). Right...I didn't know that, seems a tad stupid. I had a look at the bounty office today (previously not interested in it), I saw some guy called Skillz with one heck of a bounty. How on earth does one locate where he is in teh vastness of EVE? Follow the trail of Titan crumbs. They will lead you to a region made of gingerbread.
Zhett Haukes Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.03.24 09:40:00 - [43] It's topics like these which make piracy so fun! Also, for the record, pay a ransom to me and your ship is safe.
Zaqar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.03.24 09:43:00 - [44] So you griefed your own brother? You didn't tell him about the dangers of low-sec, refused to scout for him and instead just stood there and watched as he jumped in and died? You'll fit right in here
Wanna Kill Hybrid Syndicate XIII Legio	Posted - 2008.03.24 10:19:00 - [45] I'll take the bait. This is a game. A game where risk comes with consequences. That's the number one reason why I'm still playing EVE, after losing a ship (like that'll happen ) I know that it was mostly (if not only) my own fault for putting myself in the situation, and as such I must now go through the consequences. On the other hand, when catching someone else I know that I brought my ship into danger (risked it), played it smart, and outsmarted the other player. ----------
Jones Maloy Unified Naval Command	Posted - 2008.03.24 10:51:00 - [46] low-sec is bad, m'kay. seriously just don't go there. cemetary vote Unofficial Official Jita Fubar Thread
Achran Dexx School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.03.24 11:10:00 - [47] blah blah don't fly what you cn't afford to lose blah blah
Danui United Titans Of Progress	Posted - 2008.03.24 11:16:00 - [48] When he bought his 90M ship, how much ISK does he had? Read the beginners guide, read the security tips. Among them you will see it is very bad to buy a ship you can't afford losing. I play the game for about 3 weeks, i have about 35M in my wallet and i fly a destroyer. It costs about 700k. My fitting cost more then the ship, perhaps the ship + fitting is worth 5M. If i loose the ship it isn't that bad because i have enough in my wallet to replace everything without having a very bad feeling. 35M to 30M isn't that bad... If i bought myself a ship of about 20M and i would loose it, i also would be sad because i didn't have the money to replace the ship... that's why i still fly my destroyer. If your bro was new to the game, what the hell was he doing in low sec? If you go low sec you know you will loose your ship... Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow but definitly soon so always have enough money to replace it. If he had considered these advices he wouldn't have felt that bad. The first week i was playing eve, i read more then i played. The forum is full of good advices so you wouldn't have to feel bad when you loose a ship. Eve-online guide collection Web based version
Verone	Posted - 2008.03.24 11:29:00 - [49] Originally by: Galactic Tycoon ...and the good guys always win. Welcome to Eve, where your laws and expections never apply. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW - EVE FICTION <<<
000Hunter000	Posted - 2008.03.24 11:30:00 - [50] Edited by: 000Hunter000 on 24/03/2008 11:30:57 To the OP: If u weren't in a corp i would say... TROLL!!! He's new to the game and flying a raven... well theres ur problem. _______________________________________________________ CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Tzar'rim	Posted - 2008.03.24 11:37:00 - [51] As a (small time) pirate I can tell you that we can only pirate players who LET themselves be pirated. IE, they didn't put any thought into what they're doing. First of all, if he's new to the game he shouldn't fly a BS (certnainly not one he can hardly afford). He SHOULD have understood that while he has the basic skills that he lacks the actual needed sSP and experience to make use of it, that's mistake number 1 secondly he jumped into a low sec. system, which can already be hazardous in a frigate. He SHOULD have understood that going into low sec could cause trouble, but he didn't... even worse, he rbought a fricking BS into low sec. That's his second mistake. Because of those 2 mistakes he made himself vulnerable to getting shot at in this PVP game. So instead of pointing fingers to others how about accepting the fact that he couldn't be arsed to put in any thought or effort into making sure he wouldn't lose his ship... and thus he lost it. He only has himself to blame. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.03.24 11:52:00 - [52] Originally by: Zaqar So you griefed your own brother? You didn't tell him about the dangers of low-sec, refused to scout for him and instead just stood there and watched as he jumped in and died? You'll fit right in here he probably sold him a replacement raven, too... CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Petsey Petrilinquo National Missioning Union	Posted - 2008.03.24 12:06:00 - [53] lol at this thread p.s. I'm always up for a 1 vs 1, head to dodixie and drop me a can sometime -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Reem Fairchild Shadow Forces Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.24 12:08:00 - [54] Originally by: 000Hunter000 He's new to the game and flying a raven... well theres ur problem. It's kind of the game's fault in a way for making it so easy for newbies to train up so quickly for battleships. In my opinion, people should be forced to fly frigates for a solid month, at least, before they can get into bigger ships. But it seems few newbies even bother with cruisers, let alone frigates, for too long.
Tzar'rim Reckless Corsairs	Posted - 2008.03.24 12:15:00 - [55] Originally by: Reem Fairchild Originally by: 000Hunter000 He's new to the game and flying a raven... well theres ur problem. It's kind of the game's fault in a way for making it so easy for newbies to train up so quickly for battleships. In my opinion, people should be forced to fly frigates for a solid month, at least, before they can get into bigger ships. But it seems few newbies even bother with cruisers, let alone frigates, for too long. Absolutely not, this game is about having choices. Unlike other MMO's EVE players have the right and option to make stupid and expensive mistakes. That's the whole point.
Syniztur Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.24 12:21:00 - [56] There is really only one way to reply to the OP... ╔═╦═╦╦═╗ ║═╣═║║╔╝ ║═╣╔╣║╚╗ ╚═╩╝╚╩═╝ ╔═╦══╦╦╗ ║╔╣╔╗║║║ ║╚╣╚╝║║║ ║╔╣╔╗║║╚╗ ╚╝╚╝╚╩╩═╝ -------------------------------------------------- \| Do unto others, before they can do unto you! \| --------------------------------------------------
Simon Wiesenthal Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.03.24 12:40:00 - [57] ITT - People who can't spot the obvious troll
Wild Rho GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.24 12:42:00 - [58] Originally by: Galactic Tycoon Edited by: Galactic Tycoon on 24/03/2008 02:27:32 Don't understand how anyone can take joy in killing someone's ship that they've worked so hard to pay for. I'd feel so guilty doing it myself. My bro recently bought a Raven (new to game) and worked so hard for it. Today he got taken out by 6 pirates after he told them he wasn't paying thier 100M ransom. I watched as he got taken out and I was soo absolutely devestated for him to see him lose his ship :( It wasn't nice at all, he's only young! I could see his disappointment on his face I felt so bad afterwards. I tried to bargain with the pirates on his behalf but they were just offensive, agressive and down right horrible. But who would pay 100M ransom when a) A raven is about 90M and b) they're pirates and probably will have killed the ship if he'd sent the money. Anyway it got me wondering, if no one pays the ransom and stands up to these thugs they won't get money atleast not a lot and the good guys always win. It also got me thinking about how many people would want revenge. They kill me, I kill them etc. But they're still stupid enough to do it. So, I'm dedicating my EVE life to now killing pirates where I was just happy to make money in the market. All the pirates have done is paint another target on thier ships.. Another thing, I think the loss can be so big for newbies that it can seriously mess up thier gameplay experience. I bet some players have quit because of this. I will eventually kill one of you pirates......and then another. May the endless circle of killing commence. Posts like these are actually one of the reasons people pirate.
Kale Kold V i r u s Blue Federation	Posted - 2008.03.24 18:11:00 - [59] Originally by: Galactic Tycoon I'll now kill pirates (Eventually) where previously I wouldn't have given them much thought. So it will bring them loss at some point (signifcant of not) and the balance of pain shifts slightly back onto an even level. I can guarantee that you will never kill any pirates and you will lose a lot of ships trying. I can almost taste the tears!
Cors The Scope	Posted - 2008.03.24 19:04:00 - [60] Heres the thing. It's a pvp game. Meaning everything you do is you competing against another Player. I don't just mean combat, I mean competing. So when your brother went to low sec, 2 thing happened. One: He decided he wanted to move from Missions/Mining/Production/whatever in high sec, to low sec, which is 90% about pvping, as in player vs player combat. You as a slightly more experienced player should have made this VERY clear to him from the start. Two: Piracy/PVP is just as valid a playstyle as what you are doing. This took me half a year to figure out. 90% of pirates aren't there to grief you, as in they are not aiming to ruin your day, they are looking for kills. And kills with loot. Why you ask should you not be upset with pirates? Your brother farmed Rats. The Pirates farmed a mission runner. That's all it is. They have moved up the EVE food chain, from someone who's main targets are NPC's, to someone who's main targets are Mission Runners. Soon they'll move up to actual PVPers in 0.0 warfare. I lost my first raven to exactly the same situation almost 2 years ago. Less then 2 hrs after I got it. Shiney new raven, WOOT, lets do a mission. Opps. Mission is one jump into low sec. Check the map. Ohh, it's been quiet, no kills in the last hour. Jump, web, Scram, POP. DAMN YOU PIRATES!!!.... Anyways. Once you get beyond the hateing of pirates, you'll understand that they are just another level of player in EVE. You either get used to them, and understand WHY they do it, or you move on to another mmo. Looks like you plan on hunting them.



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