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Slide
Butcherblock Mining and Manufacturing
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Posted - 2008.03.26 11:07:00 -
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Edited by: Slide on 26/03/2008 11:16:08 Edited by: Slide on 26/03/2008 11:09:03 Here is a little mat, i fitted all 4 Marauders with their smallest large range tech 2 weapon only, no other module fitted, i took a all lvl 5 skill to make it even for all.
Myself i fly a Vargur and swapped from artillery to AC's to try that out, i only use the Vargur whith AC's against Angels, all else i use my Maelstrom. Else i would fight in my falloff (loss of dps) all the time if i wouldn't fit a AB to get in range, and beside that after a few months of testing i find the Maelstrom performing better against pretty much all non Angel missions.(Included the fact i have to use 4 grid modules to fit 4 1400 artillery)
Paladin: 4 X Dual heavy beam laser II: Powergrid usage: 6.930 / 16.975 , leaves + 9.945 for rest fitting. Golem: 4 X Cruise Missile launcher II: Powergrid usage: 4.726 / 8.125 , leaves + 3.399 for rest fitting. Kronos: 4 X Dual 250mm Railgun II: Powergrid usage: 4.726 / 15.000, leaves + 10.274 for rest fitting. Vargur: 4 X 1200mm Artillery Cannon II: Powergrid usage: 10.890 / 9.875, leaves - 1.015 for rest fitting.
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Slide
Butcherblock Mining and Manufacturing
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Posted - 2008.03.27 12:56:00 -
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IMHO the best fix would be a small adjustement on the amount of PG artillery uses, as a side bonus.
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Slide
Butcherblock Mining and Manufacturing
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Posted - 2008.03.27 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: EpicFailTroll EFT says that with sufficient skills -which i believe are needed anyway to fly a marauder- you only need 2 ACR rigs and one RCU II to fit a full rack of 1400s II, no ab tho. Considering how artillery works and the vargur bonus i believe it may even be overpowered. And yes i fly minmatar.
Not to be rude, but the difference is i fly the ship and tested it for months, where your knowledge comes from EFT only as it seems. No matter how noble your intentions, but i wouldnt call 3 modules (2 rigs and 1 RCU) "only" Especialy not when i can fit 8 1400's on a Maelstrom without using a single mod for it.
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Slide
Butcherblock Mining and Manufacturing
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Posted - 2008.03.27 17:39:00 -
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Edited by: Slide on 27/03/2008 17:48:40
Originally by: EpicFailTroll
But I guess you're a rich speculator faction fitting his shield tank, you just ctrl+space and f1-f8 without moving whatsoever... we know your kind...
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Please show me the part where i mentioned i am "your kind" ?
As a side note, first you say you can fit a a full rack of 1400's on a Vargur with 3 rig mods "only" yet without a AB, then you mention a Maelstrom can't be outfitted with a rack of 1400's + shieldboost without a rig module because you can't fly that setup whitout a AB, make up your mind, AB or no AB for both ships. (The only missions wich would be hard without a AB on a Maelstrom are Angel missions, all the rest i fly without a AB.
Speedmodules in lowslot for missions while using a AB?
PS: to talk at the same level. You probly dream of the fight in mentioned ships purely on the knowledge you gained by playing with EFT, we know your kind 
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Slide
Butcherblock Mining and Manufacturing
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Posted - 2008.04.03 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Slide on 03/04/2008 18:40:10
Originally by: Lisento Slaven Does anyone use the Vargur with autocannons? 50% bonus to falloff seems like it would be cool or does the meager cost of ammo for missions rack up too fast?
I used this ship a few months with 1400 artillery, it performed nice but since i felt my Maelstrom performed evenly well i changed it into a AC ship. It works nice in Angel missions ( no need of a AB because they will come to you anyhow), but if you warp into a mission where most ships are at 75km+/- you loose alot of time or dps. While the extra falloff seems nice at the max falloff range (6+52km) i do only 50% dps. I use alot of time catching ships into a nice range to do the full amount of dps, even with a AB fitted.
Now i do missions in my Maelstrom again and whenever i have a Angel mission i get the Vargur. If i knew back then what i know now i would have never bothered training for that ship let alone pay 750 million for it. 
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