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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2012.03.14 16:39:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Good grief. That drastic change of attitude took all of what, two weeks? I see my charges of you being a "diet-Quafe" Amarrian were 100% accurate.
You weak, weak little man.
If seriously entertaining the possibility that you may be wrong is "weak", then weakness is truly a virtue.
An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2012.03.14 17:13:00 -
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Khazarn Areth wrote:There is no virtue in weakness, only the strong survive as is the way of things.
In the great arms race of moral philosophy, that one is the equivalent of a flint hand axe: Blunt, crude and primitive. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2012.03.15 14:12:00 -
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Repentence Tyrathlion wrote:Good.
As another on the IGS recently remarked, a true patriot must be able to see the flaws of his homeland and accept them. To refuse to do so is the path to mindless zealotry.
See the flaws of his homeland and correct them. Which is unlikely to be an easy process, of course. But it has to start with a few people who are willing to stop and challenge common wisdom, to oppose it where it is wrong, and break it where it is immoral.
And you have to tread very carefully indeed if you don't want to become a pariah An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2012.03.15 15:26:00 -
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If the Amarrian dependence on slavery were a simple problem to solve, it would have been abolished centuries ago.
Unfortunately, it's a culture couched in opaque tradition. The halls of power are open to only the tiniest minority, and the process of acquiring that access selects against those with views deemed "unsavory" by the existing authority... or at least selects against those who have openly expressed them.
The Minmatar didn't do it with seven hundred years of freedom fighting. Arzad Hamri didn't achieve it with his humility. Empress Jamyl didn't do it with her decree of emancipation.
I once saw an asteroid the size of a small moon, out in W-space. We tried to estimate how long it would take to deplete using a single civilian mining laser. Our conclusion was that you'd have to be as patient as Deteaas to do it.
The same principle applies to the Empire. The telling blows against the Reclaiming don't come from warships and bloodshed0 There's no amount of firepower in the world that'll break its armoured hide - quite the reverse, they will thrive on the blood of martyrs. Instead, we have to win the argument, change hearts and minds. Each such victory is another load of ore in the hold, but we've got a long op ahead of us. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2012.03.16 15:58:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:Even though Vak'Atioth saw the defeat of a single Amarrian fleet, it was enough to dissuade the Jove from overt interference in Amarrian affairs.
I've seen some flimsy arguments in my time, but this one's about as thin as a graphene ribbon.
The Jove have never seemed at all inclined to interfere overtly in anybody's affairs. About the most they have ever done in terms of interacting with the rest of New Eden was when they gave us the capsule. We hardly ever hear from them, when we do they're doing something utterly perplexing like exploding on live holo, they never take their seat at the CONCORD assembly, and their borders are shut tight.
They are at best inscrutable, at worst downright capricious, and you claim that your Empire's invasion fleet at Vak'Atioth, which was reportedly annihilated by a single ship, served as a deterrent? Delusion.
Insofar as it's possible to attribute them a motive, I'm going to stick my neck out and suggest that they're not dissuaded, oh no. They're just not interested. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2012.03.16 16:17:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Segardless of the battle result, the True Amarr remain, and the Jove are a footnote. Dead, irrelevant, and soon to be forgotten.
You speak of them in the present tense. Do let me know when you next see one, I feel you'll be waiting for a while.
Arrogant and obnoxious though this may be, it is still an infinitely more robust argument than Rodj's loopy claim was.
Though I feel I should remind you that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2012.03.16 16:43:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Stitcher wrote:I should remind you that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. I Interesting, that's one of the most common arguments for a belief in God. Have you become a believer?
Not in Amarr, no.
Another common component for a belief in God would be confirmation bias - selecting only that evidence and those explanations which can be made to fit, or indeed rely on, the presence of the deity, conspiracy and/or scenario which the individual has already chosen to believe in.
I require scientific rigour, thanks. There are other explanations for that station being abandoned, and while "They're all dead and gone" is indeed one option, another and rather simpler one would be that they simply didn't need it any longer. Or that their population has declined and they've abandoned some structure but continue to use others. Or that Sansha has something they're actually afraid of.
If I remember correctly, the Angel Cartel took over an abandoned Jovian station? There have definitely been Jove sightings since then. You can't assume extinction on the evidence of no contact for a few years, and one abandoned station. You can't assume anything.
We are talking about an extraordinarily reclusive culture here, after all. They wouldn't be reclusive if we knew what they were up to.
An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2012.03.16 17:55:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:Stitcher wrote:The Jove have never seemed at all inclined to interfere overtly in anybody's affairs. Of course they haven't. Because they know the consequences.
...what consequences, precisely? It's not like they came off worse last time.
I mean, this may seem like a radical interpretation but if I were to kick a wall and break my foot, I don't think I could then realistically claim to have taught the wall not to mess with me.
"You'd better not hurt me or else I'll be in pain." isn't a deterrent. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2012.03.16 18:26:00 -
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No, let me tell you what's happened.
The wall in question is built atop the tallest mountain in New Eden. The summit is basically in vacuum. Getting up there involves climbing for a week while wearing a space suit. The last time anybody tried, nearly everyone on the expedition was killed. Because of the absurd difficulty involved in reaching it, nobody has seen the wall in years, or at least not anybody you talk to.
Then you, walking through a field near the base of said mountain, have found a brick and drawn the conclusion that the wall must have collapsed. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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