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ShadowandLight
Mostly Always Dangerous
Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.23 23:31:00 -
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I will attempt to make this short.
CCP tends to function in a vacuum. It ebbs and flows between issues, disasters and successes while at times being completely cut off from outside opinions. We can list the issues till Absolution comes, but the most recent examples of attempting WIS, "gold ammo", Monocles, refusal to re-design POS's just scratches the surface.
It, once a long time, attempted to fix the issue of ignoring outside ideas by implementing the CSM. Alas, for many moons it placated the fan base by flying these elected representatives to Iceland for meetings.
However it wasnt until the last year or so did CCP actually listen to the CSM. Finally democracy at work, a direct connection between paying customers and the developers of EVE, without the base having to resort to cancelling subscriptions to gain an audience.
However now I feel as if we are headed towards the same walled off castle that used to exist. Year after year, at least from my perspective, the players will elect mostly the same people, as term limits have ceased to be reality. We will be once again living in a box, with limited view points being expressed and those viewpoints being controlled.
EVE doesnt have a "Constitution" per say, but as a business it must make money, which tends to mean that money will rule all decisions in the end. However that doesnt mean that EVE will prosper because of it. Many games sell out to money and in their never ending chase for maximum profits they ruin the very product they were seeking to protect and enhance.
Re-institute term limits. Let other people's ideas reach CCP directly. Dont let CSM members become career politicians who's only aim is to get you to vote them back into office.
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ShadowandLight
Mostly Always Dangerous
Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.24 04:52:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:ShadowandLight wrote:Re-institute term limits. Let other people's ideas reach CCP directly. Dont let CSM members become career politicians who's only aim is to get you to vote them back into office. Then don't elect them. Campaign, agitate, etc. to get a different candidate elected. Don't change the rules because you don't like the current situation. Use your power to change it the way it was meant to be changed.
would you have made the same argument against the people who rallied for this change to begin with? I am asking to return to the rules as they were 1st implemented. |
ShadowandLight
Mostly Always Dangerous
Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.24 05:00:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:ShadowandLight wrote:would you have made the same argument against the people who rallied for this change to begin with? I am asking to return to the rules as they were 1st implemented. No, because I dislike the idea of artificial governance. And setting a term limits is that exactly.
so if your voting block gets you into office, you dont think that persons viewpoints will be "artificially" biased towards the people who voted him in? And now that person will indefinitely rally to certain issues to make his constituents happy in order to keep getting elected.
Lets be honest, being a CSM candidate has some decent perks. Flying to and vacationing in Iceland isnt exactly cheap. |
ShadowandLight
Mostly Always Dangerous
Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.24 05:14:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:
So your whole problem with the current CSM is the trips to Iceland?
Absolutely not. How else can the CSM actually bring solutions to CCP in an efficient manner.
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ShadowandLight
Mostly Always Dangerous
Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.24 07:17:00 -
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"Trips to Iceland" is just an incentive. I would imagine that CCP feels either they need to offer something extra to the CSM members *or* they actually feel those face to face meetings are worth the cost.
Either way, its nothing I really care about. Its CCP's money and if they feel that flying CSM members to Iceland is worth the investment then thats cool.
What motivation would someone have in the CSM to push forward ideas they feel will work vs. ideas that are "popular". When your job is to make sure you get elected next time around you frame every argument in that context.
You will, naturally, do or say anything you have to in order to get elected. If that message is bad for the game? Who cares, its popular. If your ideas arent really your own, who cares? You will get re-elected.
The entire system of sending the people with the best ideas to the CSM gets destroyed when those same people will do or say anything to get re-elected back to that position. However, if we send people who know that this is a 1 or 2 year term, max, then they will have the personal freedom to pursue issues they truly feel will move CCP and EVE forward.
Not just some dribble that is the popular flavor of the month.
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