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Sephra Star
The Galactic Collective
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Posted - 2008.04.03 03:25:00 -
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 Originally by: KhieIly
We need the military spending to maintain our defenses from terrorists and aggressors that want to take our freedoms. Plus it boosts the economy, increases manufacturing, etc...
He didn't address the issue of sub cultures of illegals eroding the Christian principles that give us our freedoms and burden taxpayers to pay for their law breaking. A big chunk of the budget goes to them in aid even though they are breaking the law.
Our Freedoms are already gone. Where have you been?
There is no Al Quieda and there never was. It was a made up idea in order to facilitate a Rico Act Prosicution back in 1991 by US Attorney's. Where have you been?
Suggesting it is illegal aliens that eroded our Christian principles is one of the most ignorant statements I have yet heard on the issue.
On the other hand if you want to do a little reading and find out the principles behind what is refered to as Cultural Diffusion you might have something, but it is not the illegal aliens who are responsable for it. It was done to us on purpose to destroy our culture, constitution, and bill of rights in order force us to submit to Globalization.
The North American Union is just the first phase.
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Mohia Matara
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Posted - 2008.04.03 11:39:00 -
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Conspiracy theories are created by people who can't accept that the world is an inherently boring place and so need to find some grandeur to carry on with their lifes.
Not saying their all wrong mind...just the vast majority of them (especially the illuminate and ****** in the Antarctic stuff).
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Sephra Star
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:02:00 -
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Conspiracy Theories are also what brainwashed people call the truth when they are confronted with it.
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Ademaro Imre
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Posted - 2008.04.03 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sephra Star
We complain about illegal aliens who pick crops for the few small farmers who are left that can't afford the big combine machinery the conglomerates use. (who by the way have been forcing them out of business)
You do not know a damn thing about the farming business.
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Sephra Star
The Galactic Collective
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Posted - 2008.04.03 19:34:00 -
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Edited by: Sephra Star on 03/04/2008 19:37:56
Originally by: Ademaro Imre
You do not know a damn thing about the farming business.
Excuse Me Mister?
It just so happens that I am a profesional Chia Pet Grower
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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KhieIly
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Posted - 2008.04.09 21:50:00 -
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Why the taxpayer can't get aid:
You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much?
Read this:
Boy am I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it
is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us.
I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.
I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again
until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I
have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens
each year by state governments. Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs
such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school
education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the
American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare &
social services by the American taxpayers. Verify at:
http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused
by the illegal aliens. Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate
that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular,
their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt..01.html
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens
that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens
from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, *******, meth, ******
and *********, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.
Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total
cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average
cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period."
Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances
back to their countries of origin.
Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million
Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ."
Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
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Jojo Rumbles
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Posted - 2008.04.15 18:45:00 -
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Edited by: Jojo Rumbles on 15/04/2008 18:47:24
Edited by: Jojo Rumbles on 15/04/2008 18:45:51
Universal healthcare =/= Communism.
Communism is a form of government, not a healthcare plan.
Although I'm still in med school, I can tell you with certainty that a universal healthcare plan in America won't work. We're the fast food nation. We want instant results, instant gratification, and pills pills pills with minimal work.
I see quite literally dozens of people come into the hospital each week with the sole intention of getting controlled drugs. They fake illnesses and the like to get it, sometimes intentionally causing personal injury.
American hospitals have to deal with a ton of fraud from patients. Compile that onto rising healthcare insurance and suplies cost and lawsuits. Oh God, the lawsuits. It's enough to make any doctor or nurse stop in their tracks.
Believe me, I would really like to see universal healthcare in America because we really need it, but as a society we're just not mature enough for it.
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Furnak Tye
Caldari
Mortis Angelus
The Church.
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Posted - 2008.04.15 22:26:00 -
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Edited by: Furnak Tye on 15/04/2008 22:33:49
Edited by: Furnak Tye on 15/04/2008 22:31:12
The American system baffles me. They are the richest nation on earth yet don't have free healthcare.
Luckily I live in the UK and have nothing against the NHS. Everyone knows it has its problems, Labour had the grand idea that chucking a huge amount of cash at the problem would fix it, it didn't, NHS has a problem with how its operates and fixing that will be the next big thing.
I however would never vote for a party that would reduce or abolish the NHS. Like anyone I've had a couple serious bumps and bruises in my time and the idea of having to pay to get patched up just doesn't compute. In an emergency you know that in a scenario of injury you have the paramedics to get to you to the A&E where Doctors will patch you up, Surgeons may have to operate, Doctors to look after and care for you. Maybe the need for Physiotherapists to help recovery and outpatient checks ups, and you know that its all for free. Yes you can receive better care for serious diseases from the private sector if you can afford it, but for average Joe you have this nationwide safety net and know that when its all over your not going to be bankrupt.
I think that health is hugely important to the welfare of a nation, and a society that doesn't provide for its poor, the people who have a greater chance of getting sick has a problem, a country should want its workers its be healthy, if anything the state would get more productivity out of them.
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Jojo Rumbles
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Posted - 2008.04.16 00:59:00 -
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Edited by: Jojo Rumbles on 16/04/2008 01:01:39
Originally by: Furnak Tye
Edited by: Furnak Tye on 15/04/2008 22:33:49
Edited by: Furnak Tye on 15/04/2008 22:31:12
The American system baffles me. They are the richest nation on earth yet don't have free healthcare.
Luckily I live in the UK and have nothing against the NHS. Everyone knows it has its problems, Labour had the grand idea that chucking a huge amount of cash at the problem would fix it, it didn't, NHS has a problem with how its operates and fixing that will be the next big thing.
I however would never vote for a party that would reduce or abolish the NHS. Like anyone I've had a couple serious bumps and bruises in my time and the idea of having to pay to get patched up just doesn't compute. In an emergency you know that in a scenario of injury you have the paramedics to get to you to the A&E where Doctors will patch you up, Surgeons may have to operate, Doctors to look after and care for you. Maybe the need for Physiotherapists to help recovery and outpatient checks ups, and you know that its all for free. Yes you can receive better care for serious diseases from the private sector if you can afford it, but for average Joe you have this nationwide safety net and know that when its all over your not going to be bankrupt.
I think that health is hugely important to the welfare of a nation, and a society that doesn't provide for its poor, the people who have a greater chance of getting sick has a problem, a country should want its workers its be healthy, if anything the state would get more productivity out of them.
Yeah, our country has a LOT of problems and our "elected"  politicians do absolutely nothing about them. Our government budget is squandered on some of the most useless crap I've ever seen and the most common solution to fix something is to throw money at it.
Got a leaky pipe?
A noisy neighbor?
A piece of garbage on the floor and unable to pick it up due to morbid obesity?
Simple. Toss large sums of money at it. If that money ever does go where it's supposed to, it's often overbudget and mishandled.
And speaking of obesity, it's the cause of most of the medical problems we see. We're a country of fat people.
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TimGascoigne
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Posted - 2008.04.16 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Cassandra Beckinsale
I want to make here a petition to help the poor americans that are dying every day because they have no medical insurance, cause there is no public (communist) medical system in USA.
/signed
The thing is if the military presence in Iraq is stoped then there will most likely be enough spere resources to pay for subsidized healthcare and most likely be more effective at keeping people alive.
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Rialtor
Amarr
Yarrrateers
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Posted - 2008.04.16 22:43:00 -
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Edited by: Rialtor on 16/04/2008 22:43:31
Originally by: TimGascoigne
Edited by: TimGascoigne on 16/04/2008 03:18:12
/thread: clearly this wins the thread, best response I've ever seen
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2008.04.17 09:51:00 -
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The thing that a lot of people seem to miss is that healthcare is a public good. If your neighbor can't afford antibiotics then you are far more likely to catch whatever he has. Even if you don't your other neighbor might and then you're at risk from that neighbor if he can't afford it. You can't spend money to reduce your exposure to people with illnesses except through so-called 'socialised healthcare'. |
Rialtor
Amarr
Yarrrateers
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Posted - 2008.04.17 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Adonis 4174
The thing that a lot of people seem to miss is that healthcare is a public good. If your neighbor can't afford antibiotics then you are far more likely to catch whatever he has. Even if you don't your other neighbor might and then you're at risk from that neighbor if he can't afford it. You can't spend money to reduce your exposure to people with illnesses except through so-called 'socialised healthcare'.
Not all diseases are a public crisis, and not all diseases are transmittable by contact. So it's not deemed a danger to the state. Epidemics are a danger to the state and are well within federal jurisdiction.
While it's true in the long run it's cheaper overall as far as medical expenditures is concerned under socialized systems, since it gives the poor the ability to be diagnosed early. The opposite is true in that you sacrifice quality of those being treated, as the articles I sited by the WHO will attest to.
But just on pure philosophy, I'm very apposed to non-eminent threating programs such as full medical coverage to be taken on by Federal institutions.
And how far do you expand your 'neighbor' to? doesn't that apply to countries as well? so don't you have an obligation to them under you current philosophy? The problem with socialized anything is when and where does your socialized philosophy end. |
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