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Gaelenus
Cirrius Cybernetics Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.26 00:23:00 -
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i've got quite a bit of spare cash and i'm thinking of starting to PvP, so i'd like some advice on how to set up my first PvP cruiser (thorax), i'll probably be using it alone or in relatively small gangs two or three people.As far as i understand i'll need an MWD, Blasters and scrambler + webber, i'm not too sure wether to fill out the highs with 5 blasters or use 4 allowing more powergrd to fit other modules main problem i'm having is that an MWD and 5 blaster setup is quite power hungry (not sure wether it would be better to use the lightests med-blasters available to free up power grid). At any rate some guidance on the matter would be much apreciated.
(lastly is there any real point sacrificing low slots for warp core stabs?)
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NoNah
Tenth Legion Holdings
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.26 00:29:00 -
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I'd say there are two schools.
With skills: Heavy Neutrons, mwd, web, point, 3 mfs, damage control.
Or Electrons, mwd, web, point, RCU 1600mm plate, EANM, suitcase and mfs.
Without skills: Electrons, 800mm plate, eanm, suitcase.
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Gaelenus
Cirrius Cybernetics Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.26 00:33:00 -
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hmm excuse my noobishness but whats an
EANM?
Also i take it Suitcase referes to a damage control
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NoNah
Tenth Legion Holdings
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.26 00:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Gaelenus
hmm excuse my noobishness but whats an
EANM?
Also i take it Suitcase referes to a damage control
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane, and yes.
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Manus Stuprare
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.03.26 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: Gaelenus
(lastly is there any real point sacrificing low slots for warp core stabs?)
Never, never, never fit warp core stabs on a combat setup.
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Gaelenus
Cirrius Cybernetics Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.26 20:40:00 -
[6]
Hmm i have a setup in mind, would like to see what ppl think
Highs:
4x Electrons (Antimatter charges)
1x med nos OR 1x smart bomb (not sure which)
Meds:
MWD, Scrambler, Web
Lows:
2xMFS
1xoverdrive injector
1xMed armour rep
1X DCU
(any guidance would be good, i seem to continuously run short on powergrid i could train a level of engeneering relatively quickly but wouldnt aliviate the problem much and as far as i know using reactor control units is a bad idea)
I chose the med armour rep over the plate and small armour rep i though a good repair capacity would be better than a massive capacity to take damage not too sure about that choice..
I dont expect the fitting to be FANTASTIC but i do hope it wont pop at the first sign of trouble.
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Inertial
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.03.26 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Manus Stuprare
Originally by: Gaelenus
(lastly is there any real point sacrificing low slots for warp core stabs?)
Never, never, never fit warp core stabs on a combat setup.
I disagree, Warp Core Stabs are a must on any sniper ship!
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Bronson Hughes
Knights of the Wild
Visions of Warfare
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Posted - 2008.03.26 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah
With skills: Heavy Neutrons, mwd, web, point, 3 mfs, damage control, adaptive nano plating.
Don't forget about that last slot. Essentially free resists are too much to pass up.
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Gaelenus
Cirrius Cybernetics Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.26 22:04:00 -
[9]
hmm maby dropping the overdrive injector for the adaptive nano membrane? or one of the MFS? actually come to think about it not sure how much use the overdrive is....
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.03.26 23:45:00 -
[10]
Originally by: NoNah
I'd say there are two schools.
With skills: Heavy Neutrons, mwd, web, point, 3 mfs, damage control.
Or Electrons, mwd, web, point, RCU 1600mm plate, EANM, suitcase and mfs.
Without skills: Electrons, 800mm plate, eanm, suitcase.
The man speaks the truth.
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Helios Hyperion
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.27 00:04:00 -
[11]
He's totally right, that is the real man fitting,
with newbish skills go for the fit with electrons and an 800mm plate, the 1600mm only fits with perfect fitting skills and an rcu II. whatever you do though, please don't fall into the 1600mm with light guns trap. Repping through a plate that large is ridiculous and a the real man fitting mentioned above will beat it hands down anyway.
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Gaelenus
Cirrius Cybernetics Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.27 00:17:00 -
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Edited by: Gaelenus on 27/03/2008 00:17:03
Okay i've refined my fitting as follows:
Highs:
5xElectrons / 4x Electrons and 1 medium nos (still not sure wehthere the cap warfare is worth the damage reduction?)
Meds
Web
MWD
7.5k Scram
Lows
800mm plate
2x MAgnetic field stabilisers
1x adaptive nano membrane
1x small armour repairere
(i'm assuming with this set up i'm really just hoping i can take more damage than the other guy seeing as the small armour rep is gonna do next to nothing in regards to reparing that plate... at least in a combat time frame..)
Oh will also be using 5 hammer head ones
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Helios Hyperion
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.27 00:24:00 -
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ya man, that's a good fitting though i'd make sure you've got a damage control on it because gallente ships have the most structure hp and.... well... you NEED it on a blaster/endurance ship. so put one on there and i'll like you  . also, use the last blaster, even with a nos, if this thing gets cap war put on it it's going to be out rather quickly. just remember you aren't running the mwd for very long.
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Gaelenus
Cirrius Cybernetics Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.27 00:36:00 -
[14]
hmm nearly there then, well i'll go with the 5x blaster setup so no NOS, last point rele is on my lows. I have three modules to chose between and only 2 free slots
-Small armor repairer
-DCU
-Adaptive nano membrane
i'm leaning towards fitting the rep and DCU.... not very sure advice on this matter would be much apreciated
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Helios Hyperion
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.27 00:40:00 -
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2 magstabs, 1 DCU, EANM, 800mm plate. I like three magstabs and drop the eanm.. but that is just cus im dangerous
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Gaelenus
Cirrius Cybernetics Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.27 00:57:00 -
[16]
hmm so what do i do about reping armour on the field?
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NoNah
Tenth Legion Holdings
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.27 01:02:00 -
[17]
Originally by: Gaelenus
hmm so what do i do about reping armour on the field?
Simple answer would be - you don't.
Dock up and rep or let a gangmate with remote reps rep you up. Or fight till you pop.
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Gaelenus
Cirrius Cybernetics Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.27 01:06:00 -
[18]
Hmm fair enough i guess, not too comfortable with that but seeing as that seems to be the best setup... at any rate thanx for the help
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Helios Hyperion
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.27 01:11:00 -
[19]
no prob dude, and congratz to everybody on a clean thread! lol
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.03.27 01:56:00 -
[20]
/me claps. Yeah, I will agree and say well done on no flames at all. This should be stickied lol.
However, I do think that this thread CLEARLY shows that Thorax needs a nerf, as it brings the nice out in people... 
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Gaelenus
Cirrius Cybernetics Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.27 02:01:00 -
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hmm maybe its to do with what it looks like... i mean who doesn't get cheered up when they see a fantastic huge..... jumbo jet  ...*Cough* *Cough* if more of eves ships looked like that we'd have a better community...
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Helios Hyperion
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.27 02:13:00 -
[22]
oooH i just thought of one (very small and very playful ) flame
bronson!! that last low slot is for a RCU! hahahaah i did it i did it!
done.
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Tai Paktu
Kiith Paktu
Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.03.27 02:20:00 -
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If you can squeeze a 20km point on there, do it. You're presumably after belt PvP in low sec and while you might catch some folks with a 7.5, the number that get away when you're 10km away on warp in while drive you nuts. After missing a solo Apoc 4 times on 4 seperate gates having fitted a 20km, I will ever fly with a 24km point ever again.
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Gaelenus
Cirrius Cybernetics Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.27 02:22:00 -
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Thanxs for that heads up actually hadn't thought about losing them as soon as i warp in... yeah will switch the scram to 20k, nd hope they dont have a stab.... or that i have other ppl with me to help jam
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Dyaven
Altruism.
Darkness Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 03:42:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Gaelenus
Thanxs for that heads up actually hadn't thought about losing them as soon as i warp in... yeah will switch the scram to 20k, nd hope they dont have a stab.... or that i have other ppl with me to help jam
Don't worry, the only people that fit stabs nowadays are those traveling through lowsec, and you won't be gatecamping so it isn't a problem.
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Markit Broker
Hedion University
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Posted - 2008.03.27 06:22:00 -
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stabs
they gimp you targeting range pretty badly, so how do you snipe in that thing?
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Gaelenus
Cirrius Cybernetics Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.27 09:03:00 -
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its a blaster boat i don't intend to snipe.... also do stabs affect overall targeting range? i thought it was just the range of scrams....
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Yuri Vladomirovic
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.03.27 09:19:00 -
[28]
Edited by: Yuri Vladomirovic on 27/03/2008 09:20:13
At the start, NoNah said it loud and clear:
1 Damage Control II
1 Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1 Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
1 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1 Reactor Control Unit II
1 10MN MicroWarpdrive II
1 Stasis Webifier II
1 Warp Scrambler II
5 Heavy Electron Blaster II
5 Hammerhead II
This is the best, forget the rest:
25000+ effective hp
500+ dps, with some medium quality implants
enough capacitor
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Gaelenus
Cirrius Cybernetics Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.27 10:11:00 -
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Yuri that would be fantastic if:
a) i had the skills
b) i didn't mind losing the huge amount that ship must cost to fit
.... though seeing as i don't have the skills, and although i do have the money i wouldn't want to gamble it all on my first proper pvp ship that set up is a bit out of reach....
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Yuri Vladomirovic
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.03.27 11:14:00 -
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1. Yes, its a bit costly (still less than by bigger ship t2 fits)
2. Yes, needs a lot of skill
But:
You can change the whole t2 moduls to t1 named (not the most expensive types), but KEEP the rolled tungsten.
So:
Cheap ship, less skill needed
What matters:
This formula is the best, imho (no matter if cheap t1, or t2)
What can happen:
Without adv. weapon upgr. lvl4 maybe u cant fit all the modules
Then u have to decide, smaller dps, or weaker tank
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Jallem Sims
Exploring Blind
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Posted - 2008.03.27 11:21:00 -
[31]
Edited by: Jallem Sims on 27/03/2008 11:21:34
/me about to load med ECM drones...... thought it would go so nicely in my vigilant (faction thorax), as i open them a new one with;
4x heavy ions (navy)
1x neut (darkblood)
web/disruptor(faint)/10mn mwd/small cap booster
dc II/3xEANM II/Mag field stab
oh, and set of trimark rigs :P
but then that is for a faction thorax, so gotta spend for the fun... standard thorax set up is similar without the 'faction' and capbooster.
The neuts are great for snagging inties and reducing those active tanking *****s to crumbling wrecks.... if they can target you as you have them jammed with your drones.... enjoy taking them apart...
although... only just trained for the drone setup :) so yet to actively try. But have seen it work very nicely
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Gaelenus
Cirrius Cybernetics Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.27 13:36:00 -
[32]
hmm never considered using a neut... as for the 1600mm plate formula could give that a try, though its basically the same as my proposed set up except dropping a mag stab i.e. dps for the 1600 tank...also was just thinking if i have spare power grid would it be unwise to switch my highs from all being the same gun to say a few ions and the rest electrons?
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Gaelenus
Cirrius Cybernetics Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.27 13:43:00 -
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oops just realised the 1600 setup isnt viable  unless i can use the tech II RCU and have maxed fitting skills. give me something to work towards tho
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Shrkahn
E and C Industries Inc.
Free Trade Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.27 14:04:00 -
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Seeing some of the comments and setups in here, I thought I would post mine and see what sort of criticism and constructive ideas it can get!
Highs:
5 Heavy Modal Neutrons (using antimatter)
Meds:
10Mn MWD / Web (best named) / 20km Scram
Lows:
SAR II / 3 MFS II / DCU II
Rigs:
Not sure thinking of putting a trimark armor rig and one Kinetic and one Thermal Resist Rigs
Drones:
3 Hammerhead II
2 Energy Neut
Does very well for me in a small gang (2 or 3 ppl) and is putting out some good damage. Havent really calculated the dps on it but each shot hits for roughly 150 and med hybrid is still at 3, working on getting to T2 guns!
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RDemon
Genos Occidere
Boner Bandits
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Posted - 2008.03.27 14:32:00 -
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Edited by: RDemon on 27/03/2008 14:33:54
Hola m8t, i fly pritty much nothing else then thorax, for effective small gang pvp, here is THE setup:
ALWAYS USE ECM DRONES, they are amazing, i fly with 2 or 3 others in general en you can lock down 1 or 2 ship completly, or get away when things go wrong 1 vs 1, they will Not work on recon ships in general.
THE setup:
i use tech II, but as mention before you can switch to tech one and upgrade while you go:
3 ions, 2 electron with caldari navy am.
mwd/web/warp scrm
800mm EANM DCU mag stabs * 2
FUll tech two gives me 415 dps with my skills and implants, and about 20k eff hp.
Now thats a pvp ship :) dont bother neuting, just do damage, thats what you are good at .
Regards
edit : the warp scram and web you may need to change to named, oterwise you run into cpu probs.
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Gaelenus
Cirrius Cybernetics Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.27 15:44:00 -
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Edited by: Gaelenus on 27/03/2008 15:49:14
wow that set up is pretty close to mine hehe filled with confidence now thnx.. will look into training for ECM drones
Edit: hmm so how does ECM work? (just realsied never done any ewar  )
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Jallem Sims
Exploring Blind
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Posted - 2008.03.27 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: Jallem Sims on 27/03/2008 15:56:56
Originally by: RDemon
Edited by: RDemon on 27/03/2008 14:33:54
Hola m8t, i fly pritty much nothing else then thorax, for effective small gang pvp, here is THE setup:
ALWAYS USE ECM DRONES, they are amazing, i fly with 2 or 3 others in general en you can lock down 1 or 2 ship completly, or get away when things go wrong 1 vs 1, they will Not work on recon ships in general.
THE setup
Now thats a pvp ship :) dont bother neuting, just do damage, thats what you are good at .
Regards
edit : the warp scram and web you may need to change to named, oterwise you run into cpu probs.
nothing worse than having a damn crow wizzing around! or a couple of rifters.... i guess i fit a neut cause in my experiance the is nothing worse than watching your active tank drain faster than it should!! I guess its just chance tbh.
I often think of dropping the nuet for guns.. but its really helpful in gang situations to have someone draining cap. Not used ECM drones yet, but if they work well (which i am told they totally own) i will prob reduce my HP buffer and go for more gank. Trimarks are 15mil a go, and only use on my vigi seen as a thorax is really a throw away ship at 7mil a pop.
Faction Ion blasters have better dam multiplier but less range.... and also less Power.
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Jallem Sims
Exploring Blind
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Posted - 2008.03.27 16:06:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Gaelenus
Edited by: Gaelenus on 27/03/2008 15:49:14
wow that set up is pretty close to mine hehe filled with confidence now thnx.. will look into training for ECM drones
Edit: hmm so how does ECM work? (just realsied never done any ewar )
Ill edit when i find the forum post... but the is a great explaination on the forusm somewhere.
Basically its a calculation on type of sensor strength. By which the higher strength you have ofset by there strength changes the 'chance' percetage you have in jamming them. Each race has its own type of sensor design. Gal is Magnetometric, and typically the thorax has a strength of 15points. The vespa EC-600 drones has a multi spec strength of 7.5points on each type.... anyway...
not sure i fully understand it, but the more points you can stack the better your chances of getting a jam on the target.
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Garmon
Genos Occidere
Boner Bandits
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Posted - 2008.03.27 16:15:00 -
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Edited by: Garmon on 27/03/2008 16:17:20
Originally by: Jallem Sims
Edited by: Jallem Sims on 27/03/2008 15:56:56
Originally by: RDemon
Edited by: RDemon on 27/03/2008 14:33:54
Hola m8t, i fly pritty much nothing else then thorax, for effective small gang pvp, here is THE setup:
ALWAYS USE ECM DRONES, they are amazing, i fly with 2 or 3 others in general en you can lock down 1 or 2 ship completly, or get away when things go wrong 1 vs 1, they will Not work on recon ships in general.
THE setup
Now thats a pvp ship :) dont bother neuting, just do damage, thats what you are good at .
Regards
edit : the warp scram and web you may need to change to named, oterwise you run into cpu probs.
nothing worse than having a damn crow wizzing around! or a couple of rifters.... i guess i fit a neut cause in my experiance the is nothing worse than watching your active tank drain faster than it should!! I guess its just chance tbh.
I often think of dropping the nuet for guns.. but its really helpful in gang situations to have someone draining cap.
More dps is usually more beneficial in gang situations, and if you can neut a crow ( which should be orbiting you at 20km) then he would die anyway, since he'd be in web range, same goes to rifters, and also the thorax already has problems with cap, a neut will just make it worse
Another setup, a little bit like rdemon, think this needs perfect fitting skills and maybe a few fitting implants
5 heavy electron II
mwd,web,scram
1600mm plate, 2 mfs II, 1dc II, 1 EANM II
ECM Drones
Can swap 1 of the guns for light neutron blaster II
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Jallem Sims
Exploring Blind
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Posted - 2008.03.27 16:29:00 -
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guess i am just used to flying the vigi... gives me the extra slot for cap boosters.....
nothing like pumping the mwd to get within 14k (dark blood) neut range :)
unless its a tackling inty.. then yeah... but rifters... not going to do much damage at 20k plus. Its really for those pesky ones that try to web me :P
However... ECM DRONES are A MUST \o/ get training now if you don't have them
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Bronson Hughes
Knights of the Wild
Visions of Warfare
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Posted - 2008.03.27 16:31:00 -
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One comment about Thorax drones for PvP. I'll typically use 5 Warrior IIs and 5 Light ECM drones. The Warriors are for harassing 'ceptors/nano ships, the ECM drones are for everything else.
As far as modules go this thread pretty covers all the bases: gank, tank, balanced. 'Nuff said.
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Tai Paktu
Kiith Paktu
Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.03.27 19:50:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Dyaven
Don't worry, the only people that fit stabs nowadays are those traveling through lowsec, and you won't be gatecamping so it isn't a problem.
I still see tonnes of stabs in low sec. Mostly on mission Drakes, sometimes Ravens and other random ships. It's a bit annoying actually, so I'm buying a HIC.
Far as the 'rax goes, I love it. One of my favorite ships in the game. Lots of different fits that are viable and you'll find some good ones in this thread so I won't bother adding to it since mine is pretty similar.
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Ganre Sorc
Imperium Forces
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.03.27 23:09:00 -
[43]
[Thorax, We call it bait, Jim]
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Warp Disruptor II
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Trimark Armor Pump I
Trimark Armor Pump I
Trimark Armor Pump I
Valkyrie II x5
For your small gang, sitting in a belt with this ship is almost sure to attract attention, and be able to take the punishment till help arrives!
[Thorax, Thorax 1600mm import 1]
Damage Control I
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Stasis Webifier I
Warp Disruptor I
10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
Solo, you don't have the option of someone else repping you, so the repper helps with that, and since you are at high risk solo, leave the rigs off, it hurt less to lose an 18 mil cruiser than it does to lose a 65 mil cruiser.(this is assuming you don't yet use medium T2 blasters, btw)
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Enkilil
Carbon Moon Corporation
Abyss Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.28 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ganre Sorc
[Thorax, Thorax 1600mm import 1]
Damage Control I
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Stasis Webifier I
Warp Disruptor I
10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
Solo, you don't have the option of someone else repping you, so the repper helps with that, and since you are at high risk solo, leave the rigs off, it hurt less to lose an 18 mil cruiser than it does to lose a 65 mil cruiser.(this is assuming you don't yet use medium T2 blasters, btw)
^This, although without running the numbers and speaking purely out of my bottom, remove the 1600 plate and put CPR II in there for a different option. Helps both your MWD and will last longer repping. Since it's a non-rigged setup, you can't get much more out of that (cap recharge rate), but I'd be concerned about adding 1600 plates to a cruiser without the cap to be able to mwd yourself out very effectively due to added mass. 2x CCC's + will definitely be a huge advantage here, but then we're not talking about an 18 mil cruiser anymore, are we? 
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NoNah
Tenth Legion Holdings
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.28 02:06:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Enkilil
^This, although without running the numbers and speaking purely out of my bottom, remove the 1600 plate and put CPR II in there for a different option. Helps both your MWD and will last longer repping. Since it's a non-rigged setup, you can't get much more out of that (cap recharge rate), but I'd be concerned about adding 1600 plates to a cruiser without the cap to be able to mwd yourself out very effectively due to added mass. 2x CCC's + will definitely be a huge advantage here, but then we're not talking about an 18 mil cruiser anymore, are we?
I do respect your opinion, but I have to ask. Do you pvp in this ship? ... where?
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Jallem Sims
Exploring Blind
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Posted - 2008.03.28 09:46:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Ganre Sorc
[Thorax, We call it bait, Jim]
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Warp Disruptor II
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Trimark Armor Pump I
Trimark Armor Pump I
Trimark Armor Pump I
Valkyrie II x5
used to run similar, with duel 1600 plates.... and vespa IIs. Was a great ship... all out short range gank with the lights being suprisingly good, and one hell of a hp buffer! For large fleet battles, changed the neuts for a set of 150mm t2 rails to run as light support before i specialised. Now, the great thing about it was the shock people got when they chewed through your shield they feel like they hit a brick wall :)
in fleets the randoms not following primary call move to a easier target! the BC you just started eating apart starts to hope they last!
Tbh, though.... i guess in the reach for best ship optimisation.... use its bonuses.
On a follow up to my idea to use a neut.... last night jumped in on 2 stabbers and 4 rifters.... stabber only just started nibbling at my armor before it crumbled, and everything else was like squating flies :)
these are great ships :)
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Grubby
Senseless Violence
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Posted - 2008.03.28 11:09:00 -
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High slot: 5x Modal electron blaster I (Caldary navy antimatter)
Med slot : 10mn MWD , j5 prototype webber , warp disrupter II
low slot : 2x magstab II ,Damage control II ,nano plating Tech II,800mm Thungsten
i still not lost in pvp i killed many other cruisers with this setup !
U need good Gunnery skills u not need tech II Guns!!
Just never putt a armor rep on your thorax it drains your cap too fast just fit 2x magstab II and kill the target fast!
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