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Tyr Cloudstone Phoenix Wing Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.03.26 00:31:00 - [1] On the 11th of March 110 Phoenix Wing corporation joined the Electus Matari Alliance, This had intended to be a rather low key change of operations for us and we had therefore not intended to make an announcement. However, following the last two weeks of war with our hated enemies in the Amarrian Loyalist Alliances of VV and PIE we have decided to make an official statement concerning our political loyalties. Phoenix Wing if a Pro û Democracy, Pro û Freedom and Pro û Individuality Corporation. These ideals that we support make us Pro û Federation and Also Pro û Republic. We have and always will fight for the freedom of the oppressed. We have fought one war against Amarrian slaver scum and we are currently fighting our second along with our Matari brothers and sisters. We have supported the Gallente Federation and its Democracy through hell and high water and we promote individuality amongst our corporation members. I make this statement on behalf of my corporation to underlie the fact that we fight for the people not for the establishment. We will continue to do this through our support of both the Federation and the Republic. To that end I wish to assure all that Phoenix Wing is not abandoning the Federation in favor of the Republic we have and will continue to support both entities as long as those two entities support the above ideals. Now I would like to think that people can avoid replying to this statement with a long list of failings of the Federation and the Republic, I know they are not perfect but compared to the alternatives currently available they are by far the best. IÆd also like to avoid a list of æoppressedÆ peoples we havenÆt fought for yet. I can assure you that we are getting there. I would like to end this Statement with a salute to our Matari Brothers and Sisters within Electus Matari. We have long been friends and it is good to be home within the alliance after our time apart. We will fight and die together for the freedom of others and we will have a hell of a fun time doing it. May the Amarrian slavers burn in whatever hell it is they believe in. Tyr Cloudstone CO-CEO Phoenix Wing
Aria Jenneth Ghost Festival	Posted - 2008.03.26 01:15:00 - [2] Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 26/03/2008 01:15:18 Quote: We will fight and die together for the freedom of others and we will have a hell of a fun time doing it. Mr. Cloudstone ... . . . Does this seem the least bit absurd to ... oh, never mind. Gallente, gods and spirits. You'd think you were starring in one of your own movies. Anyone who doubts that a pilot can slip a long, long way into "dementia" and remain a loyal (if insane, by human standards) Empire-associated capsuleer, please take note.
Odessima Phoenix Wing Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.03.26 01:47:00 - [3] Originally by: Tyr Cloudstone Now I would like to think that people can avoid replying to this statement with a long list of failings of the Federation and the Republic, I know they are not perfect but compared to the alternatives currently available they are by far the best. IÆd also like to avoid a list of æoppressedÆ peoples we havenÆt fought for yet. I can assure you that we are getting there. I would like to add also dont add a long list of the failings of Tyr's spellcheck unit attached to his comms either. I agree totally with the sentiment in his communication, and also that sometimes a small group of people with the right ideals can make a stand against those who seek to oppress those they perceive as being weaker than themselves for profit, god, or other selfish reasons, and bring these things to attention of others. My comments are my own and arent neccesarily anything to do with my corp.
Andreus Ixiris Heretic Logistics DeStInY.	Posted - 2008.03.26 03:02:00 - [4] Let it be known that Phoenix Wing has my utmost support. May your ships fly safe, your guns strike true and your enemies falter every step of their path. ----- CEO, Heretic Logistics
Odessima Phoenix Wing Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.03.26 03:10:00 - [5] Originally by: Aria Jenneth Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 26/03/2008 01:15:18 Quote: We will fight and die together for the freedom of others and we will have a hell of a fun time doing it. Mr. Cloudstone ... . . . Does this seem the least bit absurd to ... oh, never mind. Gallente, gods and spirits. You'd think you were starring in one of your own movies. Anyone who doubts that a pilot can slip a long, long way into "dementia" and remain a loyal (if insane, by human standards) Empire-associated capsuleer, please take note. Absurd or outlandish, I guess it depends on what you believe in, to me its neither, and Tyr really doesnt have the looks for movies star quality these days. It seems to me that pod related dementia has seeped into most statements these days, and I guess that all depends on which side of the barbed comments your sitting on. So which half of the carrier did I pay for. My comments are my own and arent neccesarily anything to do with my corp.
Aria Jenneth Ghost Festival	Posted - 2008.03.26 03:32:00 - [6] Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 26/03/2008 03:32:22 Actually, Mr. Odessima, I was just wondering how much "fun" Mr. Cloudstone's crew is going to be having dying, alongside the Matari or otherwise. Honor? Sure. Duty? Fine. "Well, at least we're getting paid?" Probably. Fun? The "fun" bit can most likely only be said on behalf of the pilots. The "dying" bit can most likely only be said on behalf of the crew. Saying them both in the same breath when one is so thoroughly unlikely to die in such a way requires a bizarre blurring of reality that gives me a headache. Mr. Cloudstone, could you possibly do your crew, and my head, a favor, do what most of us do, and just forget that they exist? It'd be an improvement, cognitively, at least, over declaring what fun they'll be having getting sucked into vacuum. As for your portion of the carrier, Mr. Odessima, you ultimately paid for neither-- you and your corporation just gave the lives of your fellow brave Gallente, plus a fair value in destroyed war material. In lieu of the actual carrier, Omerta accepted vengeance. Acheron and Cyrene both chose destruction over creation, and so we simply echoed the Serpentis loss amongst your ranks. I hope you found the price a reasonable one. Perhaps you'll have occasion to pay it again.
Kendar Zek Interstellar Aid Society	Posted - 2008.03.26 04:30:00 - [7] With regard to the crews who suffer in these violent conflicts, Mr. Horatius Eran is doing his best to be available with the EMRV Shepherd. He will dutifully scour the wreckage for survivors at the request of any involved parties. -- Owner, Venture Racing Team
Kohiko Sun Rising Sun Mining Inc. Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.03.26 05:44:00 - [8] If only his operations began twelve hours sooner there might be less names marked into the walls of my capsule deck. Pilot Jenneth is correct; this is duty, not fun. But, duty and serving in one's station cannot be forgotten when it is unpleasant. The people of the Republic should be permitted to grow and plot their own path, free of threat and pressure, as they choose - this includes the GalFed's influence. Phoenix Wing understands this and flies as a shield. I honor them for this. This is where I found my Sig.
Tahj Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2008.03.26 05:54:00 - [9] i look forward to fighting alongside Phoenix wing again and aiding EM against the Amarr slavers.
Thuul'Khalat Phoenix Wing Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.03.26 07:19:00 - [10] It shall be a pleasure to once again fight alongside our old friends Electus Matari. ---
Tyr Cloudstone Phoenix Wing Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.03.26 18:22:00 - [11] Originally by: Aria Jenneth Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 26/03/2008 03:32:22 Actually, Mr. Odessima, I was just wondering how much "fun" Mr. Cloudstone's crew is going to be having dying, alongside the Matari or otherwise. Honor? Sure. Duty? Fine. "Well, at least we're getting paid?" Probably. Fun? The "fun" bit can most likely only be said on behalf of the pilots. The "dying" bit can most likely only be said on behalf of the crew. Saying them both in the same breath when one is so thoroughly unlikely to die in such a way requires a bizarre blurring of reality that gives me a headache. Mr. Cloudstone, could you possibly do your crew, and my head, a favor, do what most of us do, and just forget that they exist? It'd be an improvement, cognitively, at least, over declaring what fun they'll be having getting sucked into vacuum. As for your portion of the carrier, Mr. Odessima, you ultimately paid for neither-- you and your corporation just gave the lives of your fellow brave Gallente, plus a fair value in destroyed war material. In lieu of the actual carrier, Omerta accepted vengeance. Acheron and Cyrene both chose destruction over creation, and so we simply echoed the Serpentis loss amongst your ranks. I hope you found the price a reasonable one. Perhaps you'll have occasion to pay it again. Miss Jenneth you will find that due to the Cause I fight for, through my own choice I fly ships without crew. My pod interface (and some automation enhancements) handles most of the standard functions while I add that human finesse. To that end I can make my decision to die with a clean conscience safe in the knowledge that itÆs my own life and those of my enemies on the line. You would be very surprised at what acts I can take æfunÆ from. However that is no doubt a topic for another day. The use of the word fun refers to my own personal likes and dislikes. I would hate to see the perhaps unwise use of one word de-rail yet another IGS statement. The statement remains true and to the point. Phoenix Wing is here to stay and weÆre here to fight the Amarrians. Tyr Cloudstone
PiF TAKAGI Corp	Posted - 2008.03.26 18:38:00 - [12] I believe you guys are defending the Federation and the Republic against the Amarr paramilitary zealots, right ? You're not at war against the entire Amarr Empire, even though it's a known government based on a theocracy and slavery-driven economy ? We're also engaged against those kind of pests, the Amarr Empire doesn't seem to provide enough loots for its warmongering god-ill pilots and thus, liberty and democracy forces have to deal with them... Fly safe my friends ! And please use our regular comms systems for a better exchange of intel. Know something ? Sell it to the NeXus network
Grr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2008.03.26 19:11:00 - [13] 1st off I wish to welcome you to the war if I have not already done so already in space. As misguided as Electus Matari are they have some of the finest warriors we have ever faced. I hope some of you provide a equally interesting challenge. We will of course be continuing to pursue and eliminate all Electus Matari members including yourselves on sight, until the thief and trouble maker Evanda Char is brought to justice. Contego Amarr o/ Epitoth Fleetyards is Recruiting
Aria Jenneth Ghost Festival	Posted - 2008.03.26 22:21:00 - [14] Mr. Cloudstone: While I'm afraid your explanation still has holes, I'll accept that these are likely just the result of having misspoken, and leave it at that. Actually, your statement looks a lot like typical soldierly braggadoccio, which would make it less bizarre, though it sounds even more like you think you're starring in an action holoflick. In any event, while usually the Gallente Federation and Minmatar Republic would be more troublesome to us than the Amarr Empire, you haven't tried to get in our way as of yet, while VV has. Accordingly, good hunting.
Odessima Phoenix Wing Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.03.26 22:47:00 - [15] Originally by: Grr 1st off I wish to welcome you to the war if I have not already done so already in space. As misguided as Electus Matari are they have some of the finest warriors we have ever faced. I hope some of you provide a equally interesting challenge. We will of course be continuing to pursue and eliminate all Electus Matari members including yourselves on sight, until the thief and trouble maker Evanda Char is brought to justice. Contego Amarr o/ Well being pursued is definately fun, and Evanda is definately no thief and the trouble is not of her making. Im quite sure that none of us are really that difficult to find, pursue and try to eliminate, but that doesnt mean its likely to happen. To Aria, im quite sure I have learned quite a few new tricks that would make any meeting a litle more interesting than it was before. One of the bonuses of being a pod pilot is that you actually get to learn from your fatal mistakes, and although I was never one to hide in station when perhaps most others would have, when faced with odds set fairly well against them, I did learn a lot from our last little entanglement, and I really have you to thank for that. I quite sure that Tyr's original statement was made to head off any outside influence trying to say that Phoenix Wing joined after the fighting started, when we had actually never really left the fight. I remember once a Pod Pilot we were engaged in stating that we had run away to Solitude to get away from a war dec, when if they had done their homework right they would have realised we had been there for 3 months before the War Dec had started. My comments are my own and arent neccesarily anything to do with my corp.
Jack Malus The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.03.26 23:53:00 - [16] I foresee a spike in Amarr hull prices on the market. Give 'em hell guys. ---
Aria Jenneth Ghost Festival	Posted - 2008.03.27 00:19:00 - [17] Originally by: Odessima To Aria, im quite sure I have learned quite a few new tricks that would make any meeting a litle more interesting than it was before. One of the bonuses of being a pod pilot is that you actually get to learn from your fatal mistakes, and although I was never one to hide in station when perhaps most others would have, when faced with odds set fairly well against them, I did learn a lot from our last little entanglement, and I really have you to thank for that. Oh, good. I'm glad I wasn't the only one who learned from that war. Do you know, one of your pilots was my first solo kill? He was a destroyer pilot who engaged my Crow a little off a station, with an Acheron Federation Celestis close at hand. He did do my armor a minor mischief, despite his apparently poor tracking, before he went down. His real mistake was coming back for revenge a few seconds later in a dual light rail Thorax, which 1) couldn't hit me at all and 2) was a large enough target to merit the attention of the Omerta hunter-killer squad I was scouting for. The Celestis never got involved at all. It just watched its friend perish. I suppose it was afraid it would be taken out if it interfered-- with good reason, since that was what the kill squad was waiting around for. I wish I could remember who that destroyer pilot was, exactly. Quote: I remember once a Pod Pilot we were engaged in stating that we had run away to Solitude to get away from a war dec, when if they had done their homework right they would have realised we had been there for 3 months before the War Dec had started. If that's an oblique reference to something I said in the Omerta war, I can't say I remember it. If it was something another Omertan said, I can't say I remember that, either, but if so there's at least a shade of truth to it-- irrespective of how long you'd been in Solitude before the war, you came in numbers to visit us in the Stacmon area once it got going. As I recall, when the war went against you you took your toys and went home. Not that I blame you, but having to cross unfamiliar nullsec to reach you was a bit irritating. As to our next meeting, while I know it's a character flaw I really never can get enough of teaching caution to the meddlesome. I can't speak for the rest of Ghost Festival, and we do have plenty of local opponents, but I never did get enough of killing you in the last war. The future's looking bright.
Ikar Kaltin Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.27 00:37:00 - [18] I find your announcment interesting. It seems yet another misguided group of fools who think that by killing as many Amarrians as possible is the fight against slavery. You terrorists are all too happy to kill those who are innocent of all crimes under the label of "slavers", too happy to kill slaves in order to free slaves. No freedom is truely free when it is built upon the blood of innocents, fueled by anger and hatred against another race, and legitimised by people claiming to support their own governments when commiting acts of wars against another. This is just more war mongering by a capsuleer organisation who care nothing for the people and more about the "message" they want to project themselves as following. I trust My Amarrian brethern will relieve you of these beliefs one clone at a time.
Andreus Ixiris Heretic Logistics DeStInY.	Posted - 2008.03.27 00:41:00 - [19] Originally by: Ikar Kaltin No freedom is truely free when it is built upon the blood of innocents, fueled by anger and hatred against another race, and legitimised by people claiming to support God when commiting acts of wars against another. Et tu, Ikar? ----- CEO, Heretic Logistics 30m ISK is SERIOUS BUSINESS!
Ikar Kaltin Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.27 01:06:00 - [20] Proving my point kind of the Andreaus. You assume just because Im Amarrian and a member of CVA I do not have beliefs of my own which do not match your stereotypes.
Admiral Serrano Raata Fleet Command	Posted - 2008.03.27 01:20:00 - [21] I am slightly puzzled as to why federal forces are so willing to support the independence of the Minmatar nation. Do the minmatars not see that this may lead them into being drawn into the federation? A pact that once made will be abused by the federals until the Minmatar have to fight another war of independence. On the other hand if the damn federals are meddling in the Amarr/Minmatar situation perhaps they will draw the ire of some of the Amarr paramilitaries.
Kohiko Sun Rising Sun Mining Inc. Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.03.27 01:24:00 - [22] Originally by: Ikar Kaltin No freedom is truely free when it is built upon the blood of innocents, fueled by anger and hatred against another race, and legitimised by people claiming to support their own governments when commiting acts of wars against another. Pilot Kaltin, I am not normally one to believe in absolute truth, but there are some times when what is true is true. Because of this, I must refute your false claim. We are all many things at once. While I think of my cultural identity as Achuran before all else, I am also Caldari. All Caldari know from experience that true freedom is only found through some form of sacrifice. What you speak of was endured in our own resistance against the GalFed. We of the State continue to sacrifice for our freedom to plot our own course. I see the same path for the Republic. I see the sacrifices made by this generation for the next - sacrifices endured at the hands of an outside force. Their freedom is true. This is where I found my Sig.
Ikar Kaltin Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.27 01:28:00 - [23] Is built upon sacrifice.....yes, but usually the sacrifice involves sacrificing somethin of your own, not killing thousands upon thousands of innocents in order to advance your own goal. There is a fine line between mass murder and "sacrifice". Unfortunatly you seem to have forgotten that.
Kohiko Sun Rising Sun Mining Inc. Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.03.27 01:46:00 - [24] Pilot Kaltin, We are in agreement as to the difference of sacrifice and murder. Is it odd, then, that in following the orders of my CEO that I now fly with the ID code of an alliance that sacrifices in defense of a Republic pressed by the agenda of others instead of a band of murderers? Is it odd that while in this alliance no ship I am aware of has entered Empire space with intentions other than to trade? Is it odd that my own greatest sacrifice was the loss of my ship, three hundred six of my crew, and the woman who was born with my name in defense of miners well within Republic space under the lasers of Amarrian raiders? This is where I found my Sig.
Andreus Ixiris Heretic Logistics DeStInY.	Posted - 2008.03.27 03:40:00 - [25] Originally by: Ikar Kaltin Proving my point kind of the Andreaus. You assume just because Im Amarrian and a member of CVA I do not have beliefs of my own which do not match your stereotypes. You are a member of Imperial Dreams, an Amarrian loyalist corporation. Imperial Dreams is a member of the Amarrian loyalist alliance, Curatores Veritas Alliance, which you so proudly display beneath your pilot callsign. CVA refuses to acknowledge the sovreignty of the Minmatar Empire, supports the practice of slavery, supports the Reclaiming, refuses to acknowledge the very existence of the Starkamnir genocide and squats illegally in territory belonging to the Ushra'Khan. If your views are so different to that of the CVA and the Empire, why do you continue to serve them? QED :) ----- CEO, Heretic Logistics 30m ISK is SERIOUS BUSINESS!
Odessima Phoenix Wing Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.03.27 10:00:00 - [26] Originally by: Aria Jenneth If that's an oblique reference to something I said in the Omerta war, I can't say I remember it. If it was something another Omertan said, I can't say I remember that, either, but if so there's at least a shade of truth to it-- irrespective of how long you'd been in Solitude before the war, you came in numbers to visit us in the Stacmon area once it got going. As I recall, when the war went against you you took your toys and went home. The future's looking bright. No it wasnt actually a reference to what you had said, but another Omerta Pilot at that time, and we went home after the war with Apex and Stimulus ended, which I might add was why we actually had entered that particular area at the time, and you war decced us because of our association with another corp. I would find at another time this could become quite an interesting conversation and i must say I still respect the way you and the other Pilots associated with you carried yourselves at that time. My comments are my own and arent neccesarily anything to do with my corp.
Ikar Kaltin Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.27 14:13:00 - [27] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris squats illegally in territory belonging to the Ushra'Khan. If your views are so different to that of the CVA and the Empire, why do you continue to serve them? Providence is a province of the Amarr Empire, and we protect it in that name. The terrorist bases in the area were extensivly removed. I serve them because the core of their belief is the defence of the Empire. The Empire is my home, and I will defend it from attacks from outside entities commited to acts of terrorism and violence. I believe in the growth and improvement of the empire, and that any change should be internal. CVA endorse and believe that, protecting it from hostile groups. While slavery in my opinion may be something which may be worth chnging, I will support the empire and defend its right to choose what it does and how it acts. I am also of the belief that if foreign agents start meddling in our governments affairs then maybe we should interfere in theirs.
Andreus Ixiris Heretic Logistics DeStInY.	Posted - 2008.03.27 14:30:00 - [28] Providence is not a legally owned province of the Amarr Empire according to CONCORD dictate and never will be. Eventually, someone will throw you out of it - until then, you're just squatting in territory that the Ushra'Khan rightfully own. And trust me, the Amarrian Empire is in no condition to be meddling with the affairs of foreign governments - but allow me to extend this invitation for it to try, so that its inevitable, ignominious collapse and suffering is hastened. ----- CEO, Heretic Logistics 30m ISK is SERIOUS BUSINESS!
Vlomini Drayk Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.03.27 14:53:00 - [29] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Providence is not a legally owned province of the Amarr Empire according to CONCORD dictate and never will be. Eventually, someone will throw you out of it - until then, you're just squatting in territory that the Ushra'Khan rightfully own. And trust me, the Amarrian Empire is in no condition to be meddling with the affairs of foreign governments - but allow me to extend this invitation for it to try, so that its inevitable, ignominious collapse and suffering is hastened. Forgive a newly liscenced pilot for her ignorance, but where exactly does it say, in official records, or any other, that Providence is the property of U'K? I know it used to partially belong to them, but then..?
Elsebeth Rhiannon Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:02:00 - [30] "Legal" is a shaky term when it comes to lawless space... But the Unity station was built by Ushra'Khan, I guess that gives you a starting point for most legal systems you would want to try and apply there. -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.

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